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Welcome back brother i remember you from a while back
Stack looks good, higher eq then test ratio can have some potential issues with cashing your e2 though however everyone is very different it seems. Have you used eq before?
They say adding some proviron as an addition with deca can help with dhn/dht balance.
I know @s.gentz likes this combo for a bulk. He can chime in on doses though.
Yeah okay I figured starting 1:1Welcome back brother i remember you from a while back
Stack looks good, higher eq then test ratio can have some potential issues with cashing your e2 though however everyone is very different it seems. Have you used eq before?
They say adding some proviron as an addition with deca can help with dhn/dht balance.
I know @s.gentz likes this combo for a bulk. He can chime in on doses though.
Ratio test & EQ and adjusting based on bloods up to around 500 test 500-600 EQ would be good and EQ or Deca I’ve never used before so wanted to play it safe with deca and see what bloods done, was opting for NPP but I’m thinking about taking the bulk for 26+ weeks and a short ester wouldn’t suit
Your aussie yeah bro? Its so strange of all the community research and the logs with bloods we are currently comparing it seems like the aussies are the one more effected by eq's ai like influence. Where the Americans seem to run eq higher then test with no worries.
Example im currently running test, eq, gh.
I started at 500 test/400 eq and completed nuked my e2 withing the first few weeks. Didnt even read in below 60nmol. Bumped test to 750 and e2 crawled back up to 78nmol, still extremely low. Currently at 1000mg test amd 400 eq and feel the best i have ever felt on any cycle. Will be running lcms tests for e2 to confirm exactly where everthing is at but off physical feeling now i sitting really good. Because when my e2 was tanked i felt completely flat and joint were like rusted steel
That leaves my ratio at 2.2:1 there abouts.
There is another fella at 5:1 to get things to sinc well and some do well at 1.2-5:1
Pay close attention to bloods untill your find your sweet spot but when you do its elite lol.
Ill post a link to the community thread comparing eq ratios so you can build a better picture.
Thread 'Test and eq ratios - a study of equipoise and estrogen' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ios-a-study-of-equipoise-and-estrogen.105375/
As for the length of your bulk, deca all the way. Couldnt imagine pinning the frequency for npp for 6 months hahaha
As for the length of your bulk, deca all the way. Couldnt imagine pinning the frequency for npp for 6 months hahaha
Yeah shit okay my E2 was very high just running test 300 and mast 200 so had to take an AI to bring it back down so I will probably start test 500mg EQ 300 deca 100 and get bloods and see where adjustments can be made not looking to get deca up very high unless told otherwise but I’m trying to do this stuff based on pure knowledge of what I find on the internet no guidance so picking and choosing dosages I’m trusting the forums to give me all the infoYour aussie yeah bro? Its so strange of all the community research and the logs with bloods we are currently comparing it seems like the aussies are the one more effected by eq's ai like influence. Where the Americans seem to run eq higher then test with no worries.
Example im currently running test, eq, gh.
I started at 500 test/400 eq and completed nuked my e2 withing the first few weeks. Didnt even read in below 60nmol. Bumped test to 750 and e2 crawled back up to 78nmol, still extremely low. Currently at 1000mg test amd 400 eq and feel the best i have ever felt on any cycle. Will be running lcms tests for e2 to confirm exactly where everthing is at but off physical feeling now i sitting really good. Because when my e2 was tanked i felt completely flat and joint were like rusted steel
That leaves my ratio at 2.2:1 there abouts.
There is another fella at 5:1 to get things to sinc well and some do well at 1.2-5:1
Pay close attention to bloods untill your find your sweet spot but when you do its elite lol.
Ill post a link to the community thread comparing eq ratios so you can build a better picture.
Personally I would goWelcome back brother i remember you from a while back
Stack looks good, higher eq then test ratio can have some potential issues with cashing your e2 though however everyone is very different it seems. Have you used eq before?
They say adding some proviron as an addition with deca can help with dhn/dht balance.
I know @s.gentz likes this combo for a bulk. He can chime in on doses though.
250 test
150 deca
400 eq
25-50mg/day proviron
40mg/day anadrol later in the cycle when lifts stall.
Ai on hand
N2Gurad
There really is no ratio that works for everyone. You just have to experiment and let bloodwork guide you.
Thanks bro I’ll keep that in mind might start off with this for 12 weeks and get bloods done and see what happens, can make safe adjustment after that
How long would you run proviron for? The whole cycle or just X amount of weeks?
Thats what caught me off guard bro, i aromatise like crazy, 300 test and 200 mast has my e2 flirting up over 250nmol lol. So i had been looking to find a compound that has lean bulk potential and also helps with e2.
Last time i run a gram of test i was on 25mg of aromasin a day
to get e2 back into 160nmol.. now im not evem using any ai haha. I meant to be in a cut but my cycle has turned this phase into a killer recomp 
Plenty of help here bro and the pros will give you the more scientific advice as i can only comment on my personal experience. One this i will say is i personally feel it is easier to lower e2 then it is to build it back up.
My 2c, keep the test a little higher then you think and if you need you can temporarily bring in low ai so you can drop your test dose back a touch until things smooth out. Dont be afraid to run regular blood work when your trying to figure your bodies response to something like this. Will only set you up much clearer for when you run it again. Eq becoming my favourite compound so far.
Just run it the whole cycle bro if you using deca
I usually run it until the deca is out of my system. 5-6 half lives after stopping the cycle is fine.
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welcome back to the EVO family
@Porky21 what happened to your other log?
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/porky21s-road-to-ifbb-log.103993/
I think your eq too high, test should be higher than EQ.
are you planning to start a new log or update old one?
My advice whenever someone uses Deca is always stack proviron with it. It helps balance the DH and DHT.
bros deca/eq need 12 weeks atleast if you ask me. They take long time to reach peak concentrations.
Just be ready for crazy appetite on a cycle like this. It will boost your appetite like crazy.
Definitely get some provision in there. I would run 25 or 50 mg a day. It will make the cycle work better.
that is a massive bulking stack. you need n2guard, an AI and you need proviron
solid bulking stack right there!
The guys gave you a lot of good guidance
Hows proviron fit? Looking at sonething siliar in fufure but npp instead of deca
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what country you from? @Porky21
Aus mate
@R&Dpharma brother got you covered. Hit him up on threema - HMRS5YCD
Proviron fits well in just about any cycle.
Yeah was just reading it brings down shb or whatever it is. More free test.
That is correct. It's one of the best at doing that.
One thing good about adhd, research is easy on interesting topics. Still hard to decide on starting ratios. Obviosly a case of can always increase depending on bloods and find what works for your diet and body chemistry and note for next time.
yeah they said my daughter had that growing up. a few light wacks with the belt solved it in no time.
Those were the good ol days! My dad use to ask, do you want your ass beat or be grounded. Always took the ass beaten and kept moving on.
yeah i don't really believe in all this add/adhd shit. i think a few belt wacks will beat it out of them
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Yes! It’s my third cycle actually! I was doing it by myself with my nutrition and workout plans, but I decided to start my journey with a coach! I was planning of doing 1g test 600 deca first, but he changed it for 1g test 600 eq 200 deca. The rest was my plan! It’s been 3 months I started hgh and it’s gonna be my first time this week with the insulin.have you cycled before?
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nice
happy to see you working with a coach @Sam1991 so you have everything written and logged right?Similar threads
