Tren ace and lethargic

[jamesdal1]

Guys, I have a question regarding tren ace and feeling lethargic.

Is it common?

How many of you have felt lethargic with tren ace? Tren ace never affected me like this. I love it, it was my go to "supplement".

I've been running 700mg of test prop a week, 350 of tren ace a week, and 350 of var a week. it's my cutting cycle. After 4 weeks i had to stop the tren ace. i would get tired and out of wind during my warm ups. I was soooo lethargic I didn't even want to go work out and that's not me.

I usually run a mile under 10 mins and 2 weeks ago i struggled to complete it under 13 mins. I had to stop and run, stop and run. I was so out of wind. I then looked up tren ace and feeling lethargic and read its common.

Am I running too much tren ace? or do i need to up the test? I read that the number to go by on tren ace is half of test. At the moment, just running 700mg of test prop and 350 var per week. Please let me know., I've loved tren ace since I started juicing.

I also read that I'm suppose to be doing HALF of test to tren ace. Is this correct? I thought it was always it was the other way around. So if I'm taking 350 of tren ace am I suppose to only use around 175mg of test a week?

 

[meathead2019]

ive commonly seen people recommend running a higher tren than test dose. GW501516 (cardarine) at 10-20 mgs per day is supposed to help with the loss of cardio so id look into that. tren carries with it some serious sides. kidney toxicity, serotonin lowering, lipid abnormalities, etc. so dropping the tren isnt a bad idea honestly lol. but if youre hell bent on staying on get some GW.

 

[stevesmi]

of course it is common for many reasons

1. you are gaining so much mass and strength fast
2. tren is very inflammatory
3. androgenic side effects
4. strain on the organs
5. strain on the heart bigtime

keep tren at a low dose and never run longer than 8 weeks

 

[jamesdal1]

yea, I had to leave Tren ace, the thing is, I always loved it. It was my go to, I did very well with prop, tren and var. But this last cycle of prop, tren and var sucked. i was so lethargic and when I would work out, I could barely finish my workouts I was so exhausted.

I was told to switch to EQ, that EQ will up my cardio tolerance, is that true? if so, how much?

 

[Mobster]

In a word - yes

 

[cbbram]

yes it common due to the toxicity

 

[TheChad]

Yep it’s common and that’s why I run low dose and short period of time. I don’t run test with Tren any longer either, Tren on its own is enough.

 

[dylangemelli]

amongst a ton of other side effects with tren, yes, this is definitely possible

 

[killionb12]

Yes, like everyone else has stated. I was on Tren for 12 weeks during contest prep. At the 8 week mark I had lethargy, acid reflux, insomnia and night sweats. Not for the faint of heart. Probably my last time to run Tren even during contest prep or at least no longer than 4-6 weeks.

 

[jamesdal1]

Thanks everyone, this helped me a lot.

 

[RickRock]

Common with tren. I don't go over 200mg per week with tren

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

You are also running a very high dose of test which can definitely lead to lethargy. When you have that much aromatization going on it makes sense.

 

[jamesdal1]

Thanks to all!

Also, how long before tren is out of the system? not for drug testing, but for the night sweats, its not bad, but still wake up with damp sheets.

 

[Mobster]

When in doubt it's gonna be down to the half life + about 2 weeks. But you might lose the issue of night sweats a lot quicker

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks to all!

Also, how long before tren is out of the system? not for drug testing, but for the night sweats, its not bad, but still wake up with damp sheets.

half life X 2-3

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

With long esters you are talking 10-11 day half lives so 2-3x that is 20-33 days. It should get better as you go though.

 

[awm1981]

Yea Tren can do a number on your body.....

As others have stated why not lower test and tren dosages or even make them 1:1 so like a 300/300 run? I have buddies who dont care and run upwards of 600mg+ a week of tren but many you hear them walk up a flight of stairs and they are gasping for breath and then are sub 10% bodyfat.

Its an awesome compound but anything over 200mgs is where some a lot of users really start to see the side effects escalate.

Also every cycle is different as to how your body metabolizes compounds so if you are struggling now at a certain level dial the dosages back and see if that helps and you still get the desired outcome. If not then look at other compounds.

 

[Topps_Baseball88]

Thanks everyone, this helped me a lot.

Tren is one of the strongest anabolic compounds around, so it's no surprise you felt like that, tren is a mental battle as well as a physical one, way to many sides for me to ever want to run it, just researching it and seeing first hand accounts of people running tren I'd never touch it, some guys love it and do great om it others cant handle it, just really depends on you. Me personally I am all about running the mild compared to the wild, being and average gym rat I find sarms fit me perfectly, also for gear the mild stuff with good diet and hard work will yield slow yet steady progress that is more attainable at keeping after cycle, just my thoughts on it

 

[jamesdal1]

Thanks, I'm staying away tren for awhile. I used to love it. got some great gains off it.

 

[RickRock]

Thanks, I'm staying away tren for awhile. I used to love it. got some great gains off it.

You just have to respect it. I wrote tren off years ago but decided to give it a shot this summer at only 200mg and it was one of the best cycles I've ever ran. I ran 400 test with it, had zero side effects and had excellent results

 

[Tazz]

Thanks, I'm staying away tren for awhile. I used to love it. got some great gains off it.

good idea.

 

[jamesdal1]

thanks, I will do this in a year. i feel like super man when i'm on tren.