Tren Higher than Test ?

[Thesauceboss]

Hey guys im in ony week 2 of my cycle.
Currently have my Tren Enanthate at 600mg ew
And test is at 400mg a week.
Im not worried about libido issues just more so wondering if im gonna get lots of added size like when i had test and tren both at 400mg? Or will it be more of a recomposition? Havent had experience running tren higher than test before, so anyones input/experiences would be much appreciated.

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[Thesauceboss]

And im having my diet set for a clean bulk. Stats right now are 184lbs 7%bf at 5'10.5"

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[muskate]

This is a question with no right or wrong answer. Ask 10 people and you will get 10 different answers.

I recommend running the testosterone higher then tren to keep side effects to a minimum for a couple reasons. First, higher test will prevent libido side effects . Second, Tren is a very powerful steroid but also very harsh in the way of side effects. A little bit goes a long way. I really see no need to ever use more then 300-400mg of tren per week. High dosages of tren can actually be counterproductive because they can lead to insulin resistance. Especially on a bulk where you are eating a lot of calories, you can very easily get fat when using really high dosages of tren.

I really like a dosage of 500mg/week for test and 300mg/week for tren.

Remember to include the proper support supplements in your cycle. A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI (aromasin) to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug (cabergoline) to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

This is how I would run your cycle:
Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone e 500mg/week (inject 250mg Monday and Friday)
Tren e 300mg/week (inject 150mg Monday and Friday)
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Thesauceboss]

This is a question with no right or wrong answer. Ask 10 people and you will get 10 different answers.

I recommend running the testosterone higher then tren to keep side effects to a minimum for a couple reasons. First, higher test will prevent libido side effects . Second, Tren is a very powerful steroid but also very harsh in the way of side effects. A little bit goes a long way. I really see no need to ever use more then 300-400mg of tren per week. High dosages of tren can actually be counterproductive because they can lead to insulin resistance. Especially on a bulk where you are eating a lot of calories, you can very easily get fat when using really high dosages of tren.

I really like a dosage of 500mg/week for test and 300mg/week for tren.

Remember to include the proper support supplements in your cycle. A test/tren cycle needs 3 main support supplements:
1. An AI (aromasin) to keep estrogen in the low-normal range
2. An anti-prolactin drug (cabergoline) to keep prolactin in the low-normal range
3. Cardarine to increase fat loss, endurance and prevent tren related side effects like tren cough

This is how I would run your cycle:
Weeks 1 - 10
Testosterone e 500mg/week (inject 250mg Monday and Friday)
Tren e 300mg/week (inject 150mg Monday and Friday)
aromasin 10mg EOD
cabergoline 0.25mg EOD
cardarine 20mg/day

After the cycle run the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

Thanks for the input. I forgot to add in that i have arimidex on hand and caber if problems were to arise. Ive had great success keeping both tren and test at 400 mg a week. Seeing as a tren enanthate doesnt have as much tren per millileter like an acetate will i figured upping it to 600mg would likely most likely keep it more around 500mg of actual tren per week.

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[Jay Scott]

As muskate said, the reviews are very mixed.

Some people stand their ground by saying - the more tren, the merrier. As long as you can bear with the sides, I would say tren is way superior to test

 

[stevesmi]

we've had a million threads on this

tren can be ran solo, it is both androgenic and anabolic

I don't understand the concept of using another androgen like testosterone with tren. your side effects will be increased without enough benefit to make it worth it, plus you will have your estrogen levels through the roof

what i recommend instead is using an anabolic like tbol or var because both will bind to SHBG and make your cycle more potent WITHOUT increasing sides.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Your results will ultimately depend on your ability to eat. Tren is very tough on the stomach for a lot of people and many have a tough time getting enough calories in. I am sure you will see some size but the strength gains will be unreal.

Maybe log your cycle here? I would follow along for sure.

 

[Shovelhead]

Trouble eating? Glad I don't have that problem. I eat like a horse on tren. And seems like it just turns into muscle.

 

[LevButlerov]

It is quite an individual thing. Some people like it more when they use more trenbolone than testosterone, whilst others like more testosterone in their stack. What's more, some people even like to run trenbolone solo cycles, and encounter no issues with that. Therefore, it is a matter of individual preferences, and it would be best to just try different options for yourself, and see what fits you best. Personally, I am an advocate of using more testosterone than trenbolone, since the latter one is extremely potent already as is, so there is no need to use high dosages of this compound. What I would recommend in any case, is to add to the stack some Cardarine GW, since it has a time proven ability to greatly reduce many of trenbolone's side effects without adding any of its own. Therefore, it is an awesome addition to any cycle, where it will improve the cycle quality without adding any issues whatsoever.