Thoughts On This Cycle ???

[jakehowarth296]

Hey lads about to start my second cycle first cycle was just 300mg of test for 5 months I went from 63kg to 87 in this time not all of that was lean mass at all was gold heaps of water and during the cycle went from eating 2 meals a day beacuse I was trying to stay on 63 kgs as I fought boxing at this weight to 5 meals almost 4000 cals have been off everything now for about 4 maybe 5 months eatings in check and my training is pretty solid currently sitting at 80kgs now and was wanting some advice and thoughts on this cycle I have come up with I will attach photos of 63kg 87kg and my current weight of 80 but this is what I was thinking of running any input would be much appreciated

Also I got my bloods done today so looking to cycle in the next few weeks this is what I got tested for if I have missed anything let me know

Week 1 250mg test / 200 Eq

Week 2 250mg test / 200 Eq

Week 3 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 4 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 5 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 6 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 7 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 8 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 9 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 10 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 11 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 12 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 13 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 14 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 15 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 16 500mg test / 100mg Tren E

Week 17 500mg test / 100mg Tren E

Week 18 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 19 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 20 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 21 500mg Test / 200mg Tren E

Week 22 500mg Test / 300mg Tren E

Week 23 500mg Test / 300mg Tren E

Week 24 500mg test / 300mg Tren E

Testosterone Free/Total + SHBG

Complete blood count

Complete metabolic profile

C reactive Protein Test

DHT

E2

Lipid Test Panel

Kidney Function

 

[stevesmi]

its important to understand esters already pyramid for you. no need to pyramid the doses up or down.. just start with the dose you want from week 1

make sure you fire up a log for us

 

[s.gentz]

Agee with @stevesmi
No need to pyramid.
That’s also a pretty long cycle you’re thinking of. Why so long? It’s gonna be hard to recover from being on that long. This is only your third cycle. Just stick with one or two compounds and add in an oral later in the cycle when your lifts stall.

 

[jakehowarth296]

alright so I won’t pyramid up I just thought it was better to do that way to let the body adjust instead of just putting 500 test straight into me ? And I also thought that doing tren over a long period of time would be hard to get away with that’s why I was thinking of doing a solid Eq cycle then finishing it off with tren and the only reason I was doing it for so long is because I thought you needed to run Eq for 14-16 weeks to see best results

Can I pyramid the tren ? I just didn’t want to go straight to 300 on that when I heard so many stories

Will definitely start a log also lads and yea it’s only my second cycle

 

[jakehowarth296]

I was original just going to do the test and Tren and if use guys think that would be a better cycle then staying in for so long I’ll definitely do that

 

[s.gentz]

alright so I won’t pyramid up I just thought it was better to do that way to let the body adjust instead of just putting 500 test straight into me ? And I also thought that doing tren over a long period of time would be hard to get away with that’s why I was thinking of doing a solid Eq cycle then finishing it off with tren and the only reason I was doing it for so long is because I thought you needed to run Eq for 14-16 weeks to see best results

Can I pyramid the tren ? I just didn’t want to go straight to 300 on that when I heard so many stories

Will definitely start a log also lads and yea it’s only my second cycle

The esters will build up in your system over weeks. You don’t just take 500 and it hits you in a few days. 4-5 weeks to full blood saturation.
I think the entire cycle is ill conceived. Run a 16 weeks cycle with test and eq and add in the Tren on top of it for the last 6-8 weeks.

 

[jakehowarth296]

Aw I know it takes a few weeks to saturate 100% well if I put the Eq aside how would you run a cycle of test and tren for myself ?

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey lads about to start my second cycle first cycle was just 300mg of test for 5 months I went from 63kg to 87 in this time not all of that was lean mass at all was gold heaps of water and during the cycle went from eating 2 meals a day beacuse I was trying to stay on 63 kgs as I fought boxing at this weight to 5 meals almost 4000 cals have been off everything now for about 4 maybe 5 months eatings in check and my training is pretty solid currently sitting at 80kgs now and was wanting some advice and thoughts on this cycle I have come up with I will attach photos of 63kg 87kg and my current weight of 80 but this is what I was thinking of running any input would be much appreciated

Also I got my bloods done today so looking to cycle in the next few weeks this is what I got tested for if I have missed anything let me know

Week 1 250mg test / 200 Eq

Week 2 250mg test / 200 Eq

Week 3 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 4 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 5 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 6 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 7 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 8 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 9 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 10 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 11 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 12 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 13 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 14 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 15 375mg test / 400mg Eq

Week 16 500mg test / 100mg Tren E

Week 17 500mg test / 100mg Tren E

Week 18 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 19 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 20 500mg test / 200mg Tren E

Week 21 500mg Test / 200mg Tren E

Week 22 500mg Test / 300mg Tren E

Week 23 500mg Test / 300mg Tren E

Week 24 500mg test / 300mg Tren E

Testosterone Free/Total + SHBG

Complete blood count

Complete metabolic profile

C reactive Protein Test

DHT

E2

Lipid Test Panel

Kidney Function

@jakehowarth296 welcome to the EVO family

the cycle you posted seems fine but swapping EQ for tren is hard on the body, think RBC vs WBC
but before we go into cycles really, we need to know more about you

example, not everyone needs to use trenbolone, some guys have a real hard time on it (including leaving their wife!) so thats something we need to discuss, we also dont know much about you at all, like nothing literally, so it would be Irresponsible for us to talk cycles with you without you sharing more about yourself with us, HOW?
well start a NEW thread with your LOG journal, talk about your diet training cardio and we can plan and guide your cycle from there.

To really guide you we need more info, we need you to share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Pre-cycle Training Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here is a good template on a workout log to follow:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/workout-log-template.99224/

here are examples of LOG Journals

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[s.gentz]

Aw I know it takes a few weeks to saturate 100% well if I put the Eq aside how would you run a cycle of test and tren for myself ?

I would run the test for 12-14 weeks and the Tren for 8 or so.
Why don’t you start a log and we can follow for a couple weeks. It’s easier to make a recomendation if we get to know more about you.

 

[jakehowarth296]

Will do just got sent the template to start my log thread and will start working away at it now thanks heaps for this help lads means a lot to me

 

[Arabian]

what do you mean by you want your body to adjust
seems to me that you are making assumptions about how this stuff works

 

[BookerTNY]

there is no adjustment. The hormones hit your body and that's it
you're not going to manipulate or trick your body

 

[sambee38]

steroids don't work the way you think
they aren't like drugs that you take and then just stop

 

[Austin316]

don't worry about what you're saying
just get on the gear at the dose you want and go with it

 

[Quadsweep]

at the end of the day it's your decision on what you want to do
you are sort of all over the place but we can definitely make a decision for you if you want

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro definitely run tren
I'm a big fan of it and I think that real men should all be using it

 

[JasonPriest]

I hope you will consider using domestic Supply
and I hope that you will put up a log for us

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

LOG APPROVED - PLEASE POST A LOG

 

[jakehowarth296]

Just posted all my basic info to start this log guys

And some photos for you guys
JakeHowarth296 Log

 

[Mobster]

I'm not seeing an AI mentioned before or for this cycle

 

[jakehowarth296]

What ai would you run brother ?

 

[Zyglamail]

nice you got a log up
gonna go check it out

 

[Shrine]

generally aromasin is considered #1 AI
but some guys like adex more

 

[caligirl85]

great job getting your log going
That will allow us to help you the most

 

[zedhed]

we're all gonna head over to your log now
it's going to be epic

 

[jakehowarth296]

Thanks guys keen to take this seriously and keep use updated as I’m gonna need the help

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Way too long of a cycle man. When you include esters, you are staying on for more than half a year. I wouldn't run more than 12 weeks on a cycle. And no need to change doses during a cycle. You only risk sending hormones on a roller coaster and getting side effects. The esters already taper up and down for you.

 

[Abolone]

Get a coach easiest way bro!
There's alot of great advice on evolutionary.org also your in good hands mate.

Looking forward to your progress

 

[ballin2504]

No need to taper the test up pick a dosage and run it the entire cycle

 

[Noah Wixx]

Don't tapper up just pick a dose for everything and stick with it

 

[25homes]

Test 350mg whole time

 

[jakehowarth296]

alright so im taking everyone’s advice and gonna run my dosage at 375mg test a week im starting my first shot today gonna let the test saturate before bring in the tren on week 5 or 6

 

[s.gentz]

alright so im taking everyone’s advice and gonna run my dosage at 375mg test a week im starting my first shot today gonna let the test saturate before bring in the tren on week 5 or 6

This is a smart approach. What is the full ccyle plan then?
Get a log up.

 

[jakehowarth296]

This is a smart approach. What is the full ccyle plan then?
Get a log up.

I have a log up

The plan is 375 test 1-6 then add in the tren for as long as I can handle it

 

[s.gentz]

The plan is 375 test 1-6 then add in the tren for as long as I can handle it

Plan for 8-10 weeks max. Tren is pretty toxic and just because you can handle it doesn't mean it's not doing damage.

 

[jakehowarth296]

Plan for 8-10 weeks max. Tren is pretty toxic and just because you can handle it doesn't mean it's not doing damage.

100% man well I’ll be getting my bloods done regularly to so I’ll see the damage it does first hand

 

[ReturnOfTheMeathead]

id run test at 250. unless you plan on going on trt for the rest of your life, 12 weeks is where you want to cut it. tren is imo by far the best anabolic of all time but it is terrible for your physical and possibly mental health and will make recovery more difficult. why not just do test and eq or test and primo? its your cycle and your life tho lol.