@JasonPriest Alaskan King Salmon!! No mud sucking catfish here.we want to see some fishing pictures you haven't put one up yet
no doubt about that. He killin the leg workout for sureThat’s a big jump.
Stronger by the day03/23/24
Weight 265.3
Fasted Morning Cardio
StairMaster 12min
Treadmill 45min
Cut the StairMaster short as I started getting a cramp in my right hamstring. Sweated pretty good today. I feel hot and sweaty in all my training situations now. Must be a bump in my metabolism? Goal for the weekend is to eat clean and keep carbs low. IGF-1 starts on Monday.
@RoidRage69 another clean meal I'm going to get new york strip tonight
@RoidRage69 how about drop the masteron and up the NPP and cut hgh to 2 IUsGoing to lower dose of Masteron from 300 down to 150mg and up the test from 300 to 450. The muscle hardness and cramps are just too much at this point. Will try that for a week and see how it goes. Hopefully I dont get deca dick from lowering the mast down. So now the current PED dosage for this week will be
400mg Test E
300mg NPP
150mg Mast E
3IU HGH/day
40mcg IGF-1 LR3 on lifting days only
60mcg IGF-1 DES on lifting days only
10-20mg Cialis/day
50mg Proviron/ day
Not going any higher in NPP as I can’t risk deca dick. It’s already high enough as my shoulder is incredible right now. I have a feeling it will go away as I will ice it and take anti inflammatories at bedtime. The Masteron dried me out too much.@RoidRage69 how about drop the masteron and up the NPP and cut hgh to 2 IUs
see if that helps the situation
I've been going pretty hard on the arms. Having a dedicated arm day and then doing tris and bis on chest and back day was most likely just too much without enough recovery. Masteron didn't help either.last time i got tendonitis in the elbow was after i overtrained on pullups
@RoidRage69 your heart rate would change on fasting if your electrolyte intake was off, before during and after the fast.https://www.foxnews.com/health/intermittent-fasting-linked-higher-risk-heart-related-death-study
My resting heart rate went up while I did IF and OMAD. Will never do it again. LittleTimeTrouble was right all along.
Interesting. Wonder what Stevesmi thinkshttps://www.foxnews.com/health/intermittent-fasting-linked-higher-risk-heart-related-death-study
My resting heart rate went up while I did IF and OMAD. Will never do it again. LittleTimeTrouble was right all along.
re-read my post. it isn't just about electrolytesMy electrolytes were never off. I always made sure to take plenty of sodium, potassium, and magnesium and well hydrated. Had blood work taken during this time and all came back perfectly normal.
this is YOUR LOGYou made my point. Its not healthy no matter what you do to try and fix it. I trust my own eyes. Fasting is not going to be done in this household anymore. I have tons of experience with ketosis and electrolytes. Can you imagine how bad it is for people with no experience with electrolytes and ketosis? Like I said my blood work even showed I was fine. BUN was well hydryated as well as all my electrolytes. Sometimes you just have to admit your bias is clouding your judgement. I saw the same thing on here when people were trying to tell me semaglutide wouldnt work and was a waste of time. Their bias clearly showed. Money talks.
fasting costs NOTHING, cardio costs NOTHING. fasting + cardio doubly effective costs NOTHING.You made my point. Its not healthy no matter what you do to try and fix it. I trust my own eyes. Fasting is not going to be done in this household anymore. I have tons of experience with ketosis and electrolytes. Can you imagine how bad it is for people with no experience with electrolytes and ketosis? Like I said my blood work even showed I was fine. BUN was well hydryated as well as all my electrolytes. Sometimes you just have to admit your bias is clouding your judgement. I saw the same thing on here when people were trying to tell me semaglutide wouldnt work and was a waste of time. Their bias clearly showed. Money talks.
And neither of those is even remotely as close to effective for fat loss as the GLP drugs. Every single person I know of has had tremendous success using them including a few on this board. 100% success rate. I will use it for every cut I do going forward. The bloodwork was amazing while using it for my cut. Everything was the best its ever been using semaglutide. My doctor couldnt believe how good my numbers were. Only cost me $100 per month from umbrella labs. Sorry your not going to convince me on this one. Anyone who bashes this drug has a motive as it takes away from their bottom line. The drug companies are taking more of the pie away from trainers and supplement companies.fasting costs NOTHING, cardio costs NOTHING. fasting + cardio doubly effective costs NOTHING.
semaglutide profits were $31B, minus the lawsuits they will still end up quite profitable.
you are 100% right. money does talk, we can agree on that one
My issue, as ironic as that is on a site that discusses PED use (and indeed I discuss in my own use and on podcasts), is that I am certain there will be an issue in many users, when they come off. I've used the DNP analogy before (not the well known dangers) - that from years of being on forums whenever I saw people running DNP at around 200mg a day - when they came off within a short time they looked worse than before the cycle.You made my point. Its not healthy no matter what you do to try and fix it. I trust my own eyes. Fasting is not going to be done in this household anymore. I have tons of experience with ketosis and electrolytes. Can you imagine how bad it is for people with no experience with electrolytes and ketosis? Like I said my blood work even showed I was fine. BUN was well hydryated as well as all my electrolytes. Sometimes you just have to admit your bias is clouding your judgement. I saw the same thing on here when people were trying to tell me semaglutide wouldnt work and was a waste of time. Their bias clearly showed. Money talks.
I don’t think that he is going to turn from an elephant into a mouse. I’m pretty sure there are other biological differences between these two species other than weight.@RoidRage69 your heart rate would change on fasting if your electrolyte intake was off, before during and after the fast.
And smaller things have a higher heart rate then bigger things, aka Mouse has a super higher heart beat and elephants have a super low heart beat. So you lost 50lbs+ your heart actually could go up, as you adjust to the new weight and electrolyte levels. Either way its up to you how to run your diet but in terms of health nothing beats fasting.
This is true. The GLP drugs are amazing, have beneficial side effects, and people on here have been bizarro about them.And neither of those is even remotely as close to effective for fat loss as the GLP drugs. Every single person I know of has had tremendous success using them including a few on this board. 100% success rate. I will use it for every cut I do going forward. The bloodwork was amazing while using it for my cut. Everything was the best its ever been using semaglutide. My doctor couldnt believe how good my numbers were. Only cost me $100 per month from umbrella labs. Sorry your not going to convince me on this one. Anyone who bashes this drug has a motive as it takes away from their bottom line. The drug companies are taking more of the pie away from trainers and supplement companies.
Absolutely. Those billions made by selling product to Type II vs free exercise and less crap food.And neither of those is even remotely as close to effective for fat loss as the GLP drugs. Every single person I know of has had tremendous success using them including a few on this board. 100% success rate. I will use it for every cut I do going forward. The bloodwork was amazing while using it for my cut. Everything was the best its ever been using semaglutide. My doctor couldnt believe how good my numbers were. Only cost me $100 per month from umbrella labs. Sorry your not going to convince me on this one. Anyone who bashes this drug has a motive as it takes away from their bottom line. The drug companies are taking more of the pie away from trainers and supplement companies.
No. That's adaption. Not every human has 'evolved' because 'digital' isn't something we all do.I don’t think that he is going to turn from an elephant into a mouse. I’m pretty sure there are other biological differences between these two species other than weight.
Fasting is probably not the worst thing you can do, but people have so misread the studies on it that it makes my head spin. It’s basically the most catabolic thing you can do, and the claims of increases in various hormone levels are extremely suspect. If there are new studies showing negative heart effects, I would trust them, especially if they are replicated.
Moreover, the naturalist argument that we evolved to fast is downright silly. Yes, our meal timing has changed over the years from what we once did, but humans evolve amazingly quickly. We see that in the changes to our eyes in the digital era. One would presume that we have also evolved to be extremely efficient at eating the number of meals a normal person eats today, and would have lost some of the efficiency that we once had, a few thousand years ago, for long fasts.
It’s a fine way to lose weight, especially if you don’t mind losing large amounts of muscle.
It can feel that way. Again ironic on a PED site. One issue might be time. GLP haven't been around that long as a PED. Look at what we now know is outdated info provided just in our own lifetimes regarding steroids. It's changed a LOT in 20 yearsThis is true. The GLP drugs are amazing, have beneficial side effects, and people on here have been bizarro about them.
and that is the beauty of the forumI don’t think that he is going to turn from an elephant into a mouse. I’m pretty sure there are other biological differences between these two species other than weight.
Fasting is probably not the worst thing you can do, but people have so misread the studies on it that it makes my head spin. It’s basically the most catabolic thing you can do, and the claims of increases in various hormone levels are extremely suspect. If there are new studies showing negative heart effects, I would trust them, especially if they are replicated.
Moreover, the naturalist argument that we evolved to fast is downright silly. Yes, our meal timing has changed over the years from what we once did, but humans evolve amazingly quickly. We see that in the changes to our eyes in the digital era. One would presume that we have also evolved to be extremely efficient at eating the number of meals a normal person eats today, and would have lost some of the efficiency that we once had, a few thousand years ago, for long fasts.
It’s a fine way to lose weight, especially if you don’t mind losing large amounts of muscle.
FWIW, I’ve take tirzepatide as well. Worked exactly as advertised. I did a mini cut on it. Four weeks lost 12 lbs in preparation for bulking. No side effects other than a couple days of nasty farts. It’s not at all like just dieting or just exercise or diet and exercise. It has many positive effects, including pretty well studied emotional ones.Absolutely. Those billions made by selling product to Type II vs free exercise and less crap food.
One other user, Phill I think, is crazy lean off and is mostly ectomorphic, you and I are more mesomorphic. I suspect we'd respond differently than Phill does off. Phill also runs a LOT more gear than I do with a bunch of peptides.
So does every drug in the world including 100% of the drugs used by every member on this site.Semaglutide has reports of issues, let's be fair. you can't say otherwise.
If we ever did it'd be by accidentbros cmon when has steve or mobster ever misled anyone on anything?
Yep. Just said as much in a show today.So does every drug in the world including 100% of the drugs used by every member on this site.
Absolutely. It would benefit our approved sources. If, however, I was a seller, I'd prefer to have you as a life long and healthy customer than make loads in the short term.nobody on here biased, if we was we would tell you to run 3g of gear a week. #1 thing your health
Getting ripped and losing fat are two different things so in a sense you are correct. It does melt fat away though. It actually targets visceral fat.there are plenty of diabetics using these drugs who don't get ripped though. they are not fat burners
You boys and your shit storms are always fun to read I usually stay out.and that is the beauty of the forum
people can have opinions and do what they want
if roidrage wants to fast we will support him
if roidage doesn't want to fast we will support him
if roidrage wants to bungee jump off Mt. St Helens we will support him
its his log and he should do what he wants. (as long as its okay with ms roidrage of course lol)
who would be hardest to throw in the volcano between mobster and roidrage? they are both pretty big and strong. would be a challenge dragging them up there to toss in.You boys and your shit storms are always fun to read I usually stay out.
I might draw the line at bungee jumping, but mt st Helen’s is the lowest of the big volcanos over here since it blew up in 1980!![]()
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Carry me bitches... I is old n tired lolwho would be hardest to throw in the volcano between mobster and roidrage? they are both pretty big and strong. would be a challenge dragging them up there to toss in.
after seeing your squat pic from last night it would take about 10 of us to over power youCarry me bitches... I is old n tired lol
To be fair mobster climbed Pen y Fan Peak in Whales we climbed Mt Storm King in Olympic National rainforest your guts turn to show up the old timers you can carry both lol!! That be a good workout!!after seeing your squat pic from last night it would take about 10 of us to over power you
Same!!!Carry me bitches... I is old n tired lol
@stevesmi I agree absolutely. While I don't want to go too far with hijacking @RoidRage69 Log and my apologies.I don't want to hijack this log too much on this topic but i will leave it like this.
as i said earlier
1. its YOUR LOG and you have worked hard on it and you have the right to do your log the way you want, you earned that on your own.. if you want to run this or that then run it. and we will support whatever you do.
2. we recommend steroids, sarms and other things to people on here all the time, but we also say you need to eat right and exercise on it for it to be effective.
3. there are people on here who smoke, party and drink also doing logs.. there are also some that have no business using steroids due to certain factors. there are some using DNP and other very dangerous chemicals that i strongly believe do not belong in the body and can literally kill you. do we tell them to get the F off the forum? no we still support them 100% and push them to improve. and educate them as to why we feel they shouldn't use that.. not preachy as much as possible because preaching to people doesn't work anyway, nobody wants to be preached to. that is the difference between us/me and other forums.
Fasting is not healthier than semaglutide.@stevesmi I agree absolutely. While I don't want to go too far with hijacking @RoidRage69 Log and my apologies.
But I want to point out that fasting is factually better for you then many other things, faster is much healthier than DNP or semaglutide.
Hey but we are on a steroid forum so I can't be too high and mighty about this lol
@RoidRage69 I wont argue since this is a point of contention for you to consider. Semaglutide stops digestion, causes Gastroparesis and long term digestive issues, not to mention muscle loss. So sure your cholesterol numbers went down but thats not because semaglutide, its because you were on a severely calorie restricted diet.Fasting is not healthier than semaglutide.
My liver numbers and cholesterol numbers all went way down for semaglutide as well as my fat loss. My blood sugars also went way down. Fasting is not better in those cases. I got way healthier from semaglutide than any other thing I’ve done in the last 20 years. Btw I don’t know why you brought up DNP into this convo. I am firmly against that poison.
Btw it was you who claimed semaglutide didn’t work. It works better than damn near any drug on the market worldwide for what it is designed to do. It not only helps lower blood sugar to normal levels but it also kills your appetite and makes you lose weight way faster than without. I proved that in this log. I thought you wouldn’t bring it back up after I smacked you down last time but here you are again.
03/26/24
Weight 264.1
Delts/Arms
HS Shoulder Press
270x12x3 10 sec negative on final rep of final set super strong today!!!
Upright Row
100x15
100x10
Lateral Raise Machine
175x15x2
Tricep Ext Machine
125x15
140x20x2
Tricep Rope Pushdown
70x10
70x9
70x10
Bicep Cable Curl
100x15
135x12x2
Bicep Machine Hammer Curl
100x12x2
Ab Machine
130x15x2
Elbow feels much better today. Iced good and took anti-inflamatories last night before bed. Eating plenty of carbs and taking GH and IGF should help heal faster. Was much stronger again!!! Can't believe how much more reps I got on my shoulder press. Last week I got sets of 10,8,7 Today did 3 sets of 12. A huge difference in amount of reps. Next week will have to bump up the weight to 320 and give it a ride with elbow sleeves and wrist wraps. Went easy on tris and bis today. Wanted to give the elbows a little rest. Started tbol today. Took 20mg before workout. Will take 40mg per day.
"Semaglutide stops digestion"@RoidRage69 I wont argue since this is a point of contention for you to consider. Semaglutide stops digestion, causes Gastroparesis and long term digestive issues, not to mention muscle loss. So sure your cholesterol numbers went down but thats not because semaglutide, its because you were on a severely calorie restricted diet.
If you restrict calories long term naturally, you'll get the same results. It's just difficult to do that for most people, hence they use semaglutide.
Like I said, it's a steroid forum and it's your choice what you take. But saying fasting is not safe is just nonsense.
And you hardly smacked me down lol I just let you do what you want bro, your choice how you live and left it alone.
@RoidRage69 how much swelling you getting? consider some localized peptides maybe bpc tb.
@RoidRage69 I dont want to go too deep into this but here you go"Semaglutide stops digestion"
Not true. It slows it down it doesn't stop it.
long term digestive issues
Not with my wife and myself. Neither of us have any digestive issues after taking it for 11 weeks.
not to mention muscle loss.
All diets cause muscle loss. This causes no more than any other diet. It does however speed up the rate of fat loss by more than double with what I have seen and witnessed. Why diet hard for 12 weeks when you can lose more fat in 4 weeks?
your cholesterol numbers went down but thats not because semaglutide, its because you were on a severely calorie restricted diet.
I actually ate the same or more on semaglutide than when I was fasting and doing the omad so this is just not the case.
I lost 31 lbs in 11 weeks on semaglutide. I got stronger the entire time as well. I know from my results and my wifes that it works better than anything we have ever done including keto, 24 hour fasting, 18 hour fasting, and OMAD. Results speak for themselves. Money also talks. Follow the money.
how much swelling you getting? consider some localized peptides maybe bpc tb.
Zero swelling. BPC and TB is a waste of money IMO. Ive tried it and didnt work for other things including shoulder pain. My tendonitis is much better today. I am getting old. I have gotten so strong in the last 4 weeks it is most likely just too much increases in the gym too fast. Took it easy on arms today and went pretty light. I also think that the masteron fully saturated and lowered my estrogen too much. 300mg too much for this old guy. I should have only gone with 100mg. Hopefully I dont get deca dick with it out of the mix. I really like the way I feel in the gym and bed while on Masteron.
Aspirin can kill you. All drugs have potential problems including the drugs talked about on this site. I chose to go with the odds. I had no major issues and will continue to use and advise others who have weight problems to try it.@RoidRage69 I dont want to go too deep into this but here you go
https://nypost.com/2023/06/19/ozempic-users-spark-spike-in-er-visits-shocking-new-side-effects/
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/05/wei...empic-may-be-linked-to-stomach-paralysis.html
Causes emergency room visits and stomach paralysis but forget it, not important, you're an adult do what you feel is right for you.
@RoidRage69 aspirin cannot kill you at doses recommended while semaglutide can hospitalize you and ruin digestion for life so yea there is a difference.Aspirin can kill you. All drugs have potential problems including the drugs talked about on this site. I chose to go with the odds. I had no major issues and will continue to use and advise others who have weight problems to try it.
One thing I do know is that I will not go above .5mg and only go 6-8 weeks max. That dose is much less than what is recommended.
Anything can send you to the hospital. Anecdotally I have not heard of one person out of 6 that have had any issues. All of them have had incredible results though. If you want we can keep this going for days.@RoidRage69 aspirin cannot kill you at doses recommended while semaglutide can hospitalize you and ruin digestion for life so yea there is a difference.
@RoidRage69 no need bro lol its your LOG your game, I'm here to support you only. Was just making comments about fasting and we got off topic imo.Anything can send you to the hospital. Anecdotally I have not heard of one person out of 6 that have had any issues. All of them have had incredible results though. If you want we can keep this going for days.
Fair enough. One thing I bet is that the people who have the serious issues most likely are in bad shape, eat potato chips and play Halo all day long. Just saying!!! I recommend a low fat diet with lots of fiber and magnesium on the GLP drug diet. The more magnesium the better. It keeps things moving.@RoidRage69 no need bro lol its your LOG your game, I'm here to support you only. Was just making comments about fasting and we got off topic imo.
@RoidRage69 I'm sure some are out of shape (ton of them) but you'd be surprised how many bodybuilders in the hospital from Golds I've seen on and off with stomach issues.Fair enough. One thing I bet is that the people who have the serious issues most likely are in bad shape, eat potato chips and play Halo all day long. Just saying!!! I recommend a low fat diet with lots of fiber and magnesium on the GLP drug diet. The more magnesium the better. It keeps things moving.
Everything has pros and cons each person needs weigh these side effects. It will be interesting to see long term effects studies. These studies are likely on subjects they aren’t athletes. I’m speculating but Likely are avg sedentary grossly obese population. Those who really can benefit from this and need it to live. Those people are going to be higher risk if many things due to obesity. Same with fasting. Sedentary obese are not most of us on this board. I personally hated fasting. I didn’t feel to energetic. While Semaglutide I actually ate more than while fasting. It does slow the gut and hence slow digestion which is also why we eat fiber too, to slow down digestion & stay full longer. Also to clean out the guts. So if you’re prone to constipation then you need to take extra precaution and take a stimulent like senna & or more fiber for sure. Doctors will need to know all these things and maybe prescribe this with the drug. While it’s the less likely side effect still possible. Folks I know have gotten opposite issue diarrhea. So idk. How many doctors order you probiotics, acidophilus or lactobacillus with antibiotics?? They don’t you take antibiotics and just wipe out your flora. Then have another problem. If your gut gets slow take a stimulent! Eat fiber and move your body!@RoidRage69 aspirin cannot kill you at doses recommended while semaglutide can hospitalize you and ruin digestion for life so yea there is a difference.
Now thats a PED layout boysGoing to lower dose of Masteron from 300 down to 150mg and up the test from 300 to 450. The muscle hardness and cramps are just too much at this point. Will try that for a week and see how it goes. Hopefully I dont get deca dick from lowering the mast down. So now the current PED dosage for this week will be
400mg Test E
300mg NPP
150mg Mast E
3IU HGH/day
40mcg IGF-1 LR3 on lifting days only
60mcg IGF-1 DES on lifting days only
10-20mg Cialis/day
50mg Proviron/ day
@RoidRage69 cardio is going UP stay on this03/27/24
Weight 265.3
Fasted Morning Cardio
StairMaster 20min
Treadmill 50min
@RoidRage69 slow and steady be careful, high bp times stay lower intensity03/29/24
Weight 265.4
Legs
Squats
405x5x5
Hack Squat
450x12
500x10
SLDL
450x10x2
Leg Ext.
236x10x2 Pause negatives on last 2 reps each set
Seated Leg Curls
214x12
214x10
Adduction/Abduction Supersets
2X
Squats felt like I had multiple reps left on every set. Most likely could have done sets of 8. Was much easier than last week when I did 385. Didn't want to have a stroke as my face gets beet red. Waiting on blood pressure meds in the mail so I can take the training wheels off so to speak. Slow steady gains wins the race.
Which is exactly what I’ve been doing lately. My blood pressure is still not in the high zone, just being extra careful on my main compound lifts to hold back and not go anywhere close to failure. I figure I am holding back about 50 lbs on my squat sets.@RoidRage69 slow and steady be careful, high bp times stay lower intensity
good work bro03/29/24
Weight 265.4
Legs
Squats
405x5x5
Hack Squat
450x12
500x10
SLDL
450x10x2
Leg Ext.
236x10x2 Pause negatives on last 2 reps each set
Seated Leg Curls
214x12
214x10
Adduction/Abduction Supersets
2X
Squats felt like I had multiple reps left on every set. Most likely could have done sets of 8. Was much easier than last week when I did 385. Didn't want to have a stroke as my face gets beet red. Waiting on blood pressure meds in the mail so I can take the training wheels off so to speak. Slow steady gains wins the race.
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