Approved Log My TRT cycle Log

[onebaldwonder]

-32 years old
-balding without gear
-20-25% BF?
-6.1ft
-228lbs
-Attached photo was taken on November 6th 2024
-the two blood tests attached, the one in the green numbers was taken on the 4th November 2024, the one with a number of parameters in red was taken on December 11th 2024.
-No prior steroid cycles, however back in 2018 approximately I took a sarms cycle consisting of the following:
-Rad140
-Lgd4033
-mk677
-mk2866
All of those was taken at the recommended lower label dosage for an extended period of time, to memory approximately 3months. No PCT was conducted after this.

History of mental health issues, recently came off a substantial amount of medication with guidance of the health care professional, these was:
-Priadel lithium @1200mg
-Biquelle XL @ 150mg
-Diazepam @ 6mg
-Venleflaxine @ 300mg
these was weaned down over a period of several months, i was clear of any medication approximately 4 weeks prior to initial blood test.

self administered TRT which escalated into a cycle.

Today Tuesday 17th December I had an appointment with a HRT specialist, advised to stop taking Test(e)300, wean myself off and upon completion of the vial. Wait 2-3months before another consultation to see where I stand within their practice.

Started injecting test(e)300 approximately 6 weeks ago, began dose at 0.15-0.2ml per injection twice weekly. Was feeling great so lack of experience and poor judgement I jumped to 0.3ml EOD. Attached below is my supplier aswell the remaining steroid in the vial, I did not start with any AI or SERM. I have order Aromasin and Nolvadex on the 16th December 2024, as I am experiencing what seems to be E2 related gyno or potentially prolactin.

Supporting vitamins:
-Vitamin D3+K2(Mk-7) by nutrition geeks from amazon (taken in morning)
-P5P (taken in morning)
-Vitamin B12(taken in morning)
-L-Lysine (for coldsores)
-Magnesium glycinate 3-1 nutrition geeks
-Zinc

Started a workout and food log on Monday 9th December

Pure Gym and works Gym are used, certain machines are displayed as 1-20, unclear on weight. Other machines are labelled so forgive any inconsistencies.

Monday 9th December
Food:
2xdouble bacon&egg Mcmuffin, 1xcaramel latte, 1xlatte, basmatti rice with chicken x 2, 0.3ml test(e) 300, 2 red sugar free redbull.
Gym-chest
Design = reps @ weight
Flat bb bench
1.15@80 2.12@90 3.8@90 4.10@90
DB incline
4 sets was performed @ 35kg, reps was not counted.
Cable fly (pin height 31)
1.23@3 2.16@5 3.14@5 4.11@5
No abs and no cardio

Tuesday 10th December
Food:
4 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
Oxtail soup,cinnamon bagel, chicken breast
3 sugar free red bull
Gym-arms
Cable rope pushdown
1.23@8 2.16@9 3.15@9 4.12@9
Straight bar pushdown
1.21@10 2.20@12 3.12@14 4.13@14
Overhead rope extension
1.10@6 2.9@6 3.10@6 4.11@6
Cable straight bar curl
1.19@8 2.13@8 3.13@8 4.14@8
Cable rope hammer
1.14@7 2.19@7 3.13@7 4.12@7
Decline Cable curl
1.10@4 2.10@4 3.12@4 4.10@4
Cable crunches, no cardio

Wednesday 11th December
Food:
1 mocha, 2 caramel squares, 1 bacon bap
3 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
1 sugar free monster
0.3ml test(e) 300
Gym-shoulders
DB lat raise
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.13@10
Db shoulder press
1.9@30 2.9@30 3.7@30
Cable rope facepulls
1.18@10 2.11@10 3.12@10
Cable lat raise (pin height 5)
1.12@2 2.18@2 3.15@2
Bb shrugs
1.12@80 2.19@80 3.10@80
Cardio-treadmill 20mins speed 7, 0 incline

Thursday 12th December
Food:
5 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
Homemade chicken soup
Chicken and basmatti rice x 2
1 sugar free monster, 1 donut
Gym-legs
Knee extensions
1.19@8 2.25@8 3.24@8 4.24@8
Front squat
1.12@50 2.13@50 3.15@50
Calf raises standing
1.20@12 2.19@12 3.23@12
Hamstring curl seated
1.14@8 2.13@8 3.11@8
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0 incline.

Friday 13th December
Forgot to monitor today, however today was back, no Cardio or abs done.

Saturday 14th December
Food:
4 eggs, 1 toast with peanut butter/butter
Princess,sweets,chocolate
2 sugar free monster
Chicken soup
Gym-chest
Incline smith bench(seat pin 4)
1.14@90 2.10@90 3.10@9 4.13@90
Guillotine press
1.12@60 2.13@60 3.11@60
incline DB press(pin height 3)
1.12@30 2.8@34 3.8@34
Cable fly (pin height 16)
1.20@14 2.16@14 3.12@14 4.10@14
Hanging leg raises
1.16 2.22 4.19
Cable rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.13@36 3.12@36
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0incline

Sunday 15th December
Food:
2 eggs, tim Hortons breakfast wrap
Sunday dinner
0.2ml test(e)300
Gym-legs
Calf raise seated
Forgot to note
Knee extension
Forgot to note
Perfect squat machine
1.18@60 2.11@80 3.10@80 4.9@80
Cannonball squat BB
1.16@80 2.11@100 3.8@100(pause reps)
Walking BB lunge
1.19@20 2.22@20 3.18@20 dropped to 10@BW

Monday 16th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
5 eggs
2 X chicken and basmatti rice
Gym-rest

Tuesday 17th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
4 eggs
3 x chicken and basmatti rice
1xmocha
Gym-chest
Forgot to note

Working hours 1448-2258, typically asleep by 0100, awake with family by 0600-0700.

I hope this provides adequate information.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Worthwhile note is as of today with the appointment with the consultant advising me to come off and the poor blood work my gyno is beginning to make things alot more mentally challenging, my intention is upon receiving the aromasin and nolvadex I will start:
Week1
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Nolvadex 40 ED
Week 2
Aromasin12.5 EOD
Nolva 40 EOD
Week 3
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 20 EOD
Week 4
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 10 EOD
Week 5 stop if symptoms regress and then get bloodwork 2 weeks after. Thoughts ?

Pre-existing gyno from a previous anti-depressant and antiphycotic combo.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Link to thread prior to creating this log

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...s-and-blood-test-results.102379/#post-1659090

 

[onebaldwonder]

Attached is a photo I have just taken of the escalated gyno for reference

 

[stevesmi]

i don't think you are 20%. mid teens but not anywhere over 20% area

hard to tell with gyno with that pic. take more pics and don't pinch the area, take some side pics. might need a dr to look at it to confirm or not

 

[onebaldwonder]

Only reason I pinched it was to show the size of the fatty area, the pre existing gyno wasn't this large. Just wondering if the damage done is a permanent thing or if the aromasin and nolvadex will reduce it as its quite embarrassing.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

-32 years old
-balding without gear
-20-25% BF?
-6.1ft
-228lbs
-Attached photo was taken on November 6th 2024
-the two blood tests attached, the one in the green numbers was taken on the 4th November 2024, the one with a number of parameters in red was taken on December 11th 2024.
-No prior steroid cycles, however back in 2018 approximately I took a sarms cycle consisting of the following:
-Rad140
-Lgd4033
-mk677
-mk2866
All of those was taken at the recommended lower label dosage for an extended period of time, to memory approximately 3months. No PCT was conducted after this.

History of mental health issues, recently came off a substantial amount of medication with guidance of the health care professional, these was:
-Priadel lithium @1200mg
-Biquelle XL @ 150mg
-Diazepam @ 6mg
-Venleflaxine @ 300mg
these was weaned down over a period of several months, i was clear of any medication approximately 4 weeks prior to initial blood test.

self administered TRT which escalated into a cycle.

Today Tuesday 17th December I had an appointment with a HRT specialist, advised to stop taking Test(e)300, wean myself off and upon completion of the vial. Wait 2-3months before another consultation to see where I stand within their practice.

Started injecting test(e)300 approximately 6 weeks ago, began dose at 0.15-0.2ml per injection twice weekly. Was feeling great so lack of experience and poor judgement I jumped to 0.3ml EOD. Attached below is my supplier aswell the remaining steroid in the vial, I did not start with any AI or SERM. I have order Aromasin and Nolvadex on the 16th December 2024, as I am experiencing what seems to be E2 related gyno or potentially prolactin.

Supporting vitamins:
-Vitamin D3+K2(Mk-7) by nutrition geeks from amazon (taken in morning)
-P5P (taken in morning)
-Vitamin B12(taken in morning)
-L-Lysine (for coldsores)
-Magnesium glycinate 3-1 nutrition geeks
-Zinc

Started a workout and food log on Monday 9th December

Pure Gym and works Gym are used, certain machines are displayed as 1-20, unclear on weight. Other machines are labelled so forgive any inconsistencies.

Monday 9th December
Food:
2xdouble bacon&egg Mcmuffin, 1xcaramel latte, 1xlatte, basmatti rice with chicken x 2, 0.3ml test(e) 300, 2 red sugar free redbull.
Gym-chest
Design = reps @ weight
Flat bb bench
1.15@80 2.12@90 3.8@90 4.10@90
DB incline
4 sets was performed @ 35kg, reps was not counted.
Cable fly (pin height 31)
1.23@3 2.16@5 3.14@5 4.11@5
No abs and no cardio

Tuesday 10th December
Food:
4 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
Oxtail soup,cinnamon bagel, chicken breast
3 sugar free red bull
Gym-arms
Cable rope pushdown
1.23@8 2.16@9 3.15@9 4.12@9
Straight bar pushdown
1.21@10 2.20@12 3.12@14 4.13@14
Overhead rope extension
1.10@6 2.9@6 3.10@6 4.11@6
Cable straight bar curl
1.19@8 2.13@8 3.13@8 4.14@8
Cable rope hammer
1.14@7 2.19@7 3.13@7 4.12@7
Decline Cable curl
1.10@4 2.10@4 3.12@4 4.10@4
Cable crunches, no cardio

Wednesday 11th December
Food:
1 mocha, 2 caramel squares, 1 bacon bap
3 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
1 sugar free monster
0.3ml test(e) 300
Gym-shoulders
DB lat raise
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.13@10
Db shoulder press
1.9@30 2.9@30 3.7@30
Cable rope facepulls
1.18@10 2.11@10 3.12@10
Cable lat raise (pin height 5)
1.12@2 2.18@2 3.15@2
Bb shrugs
1.12@80 2.19@80 3.10@80
Cardio-treadmill 20mins speed 7, 0 incline

Thursday 12th December
Food:
5 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
Homemade chicken soup
Chicken and basmatti rice x 2
1 sugar free monster, 1 donut
Gym-legs
Knee extensions
1.19@8 2.25@8 3.24@8 4.24@8
Front squat
1.12@50 2.13@50 3.15@50
Calf raises standing
1.20@12 2.19@12 3.23@12
Hamstring curl seated
1.14@8 2.13@8 3.11@8
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0 incline.

Friday 13th December
Forgot to monitor today, however today was back, no Cardio or abs done.

Saturday 14th December
Food:
4 eggs, 1 toast with peanut butter/butter
Princess,sweets,chocolate
2 sugar free monster
Chicken soup
Gym-chest
Incline smith bench(seat pin 4)
1.14@90 2.10@90 3.10@9 4.13@90
Guillotine press
1.12@60 2.13@60 3.11@60
incline DB press(pin height 3)
1.12@30 2.8@34 3.8@34
Cable fly (pin height 16)
1.20@14 2.16@14 3.12@14 4.10@14
Hanging leg raises
1.16 2.22 4.19
Cable rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.13@36 3.12@36
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0incline

Sunday 15th December
Food:
2 eggs, tim Hortons breakfast wrap
Sunday dinner
0.2ml test(e)300
Gym-legs
Calf raise seated
Forgot to note
Knee extension
Forgot to note
Perfect squat machine
1.18@60 2.11@80 3.10@80 4.9@80
Cannonball squat BB
1.16@80 2.11@100 3.8@100(pause reps)
Walking BB lunge
1.19@20 2.22@20 3.18@20 dropped to 10@BW

Monday 16th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
5 eggs
2 X chicken and basmatti rice
Gym-rest

Tuesday 17th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
4 eggs
3 x chicken and basmatti rice
1xmocha
Gym-chest
Forgot to note

Working hours 1448-2258, typically asleep by 0100, awake with family by 0600-0700.

I hope this provides adequate information.

Worthwhile note is as of today with the appointment with the consultant advising me to come off and the poor blood work my gyno is beginning to make things alot more mentally challenging, my intention is upon receiving the aromasin and nolvadex I will start:
Week1
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Nolvadex 40 ED
Week 2
Aromasin12.5 EOD
Nolva 40 EOD
Week 3
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 20 EOD
Week 4
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 10 EOD
Week 5 stop if symptoms regress and then get bloodwork 2 weeks after. Thoughts ?

Pre-existing gyno from a previous anti-depressant and antiphycotic combo.

Link to thread prior to creating this log

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...s-and-blood-test-results.102379/#post-1659090

Attached is a photo I have just taken of the escalated gyno for reference

Only reason I pinched it was to show the size of the fatty area, the pre existing gyno wasn't this large. Just wondering if the damage done is a permanent thing or if the aromasin and nolvadex will reduce it as its quite embarrassing.

@onebaldwonder fully now welcome to the EVO family happy to see you share, and EVO is a NO judgement zone, nothing is embarrassing here, we dont judge we just support.

You're not the first guy to get gyno and not the last. @AE1079 and I were talking about high estrogen and TRT for a while now and you are a prime example of this.

Lets talk diet training first.

I'd like to see you stay on the logging front, keep updating diet training daily as I'd like to see your fat intake and cortisol levels.
Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Cycle and estrogen
The issue with what you're doing with aromasin and tamoxifen, is you're overcompensating for high estrogen due to gynecomastia. Thats normal for guys to do but dangerous in the long run.
You need to stop EOD aromasin. Switch to aromasin Monday 12.5mgs and Thursday 12.5mgs
increase tamoxifen to 40mgs ED
also do NOT squeeze the nipples or touch them or play with them, it will increase prolactin levels and make the gynecomastia worse.

Worthwhile note is as of today with the appointment with the consultant advising me to come off and the poor blood work my gyno is beginning to make things alot more mentally challenging, my intention is upon receiving the aromasin and nolvadex I will start:
Week1
Aromasin 12.5 ED
Nolvadex 40 ED
Week 2
Aromasin12.5 EOD
Nolva 40 EOD
Week 3
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 20 EOD
Week 4
Aromasin 12.5 EOD
Nolva 10 EOD
Week 5 stop if symptoms regress and then get bloodwork 2 weeks after. Thoughts ?

Pre-existing gyno from a previous anti-depressant and antiphycotic combo.

Testosterone use
Can you pleas share more pic of the testosterone vial, (I saw ones above) what is this lab you're using? I dont understand where you go this.
You are from USA?
I have suspicion it might be the testosterone itself too.

 

[AE1079]

@onebaldwonder fully now welcome to the EVO family happy to see you share, and EVO is a NO judgement zone, nothing is embarrassing here, we dont judge we just support.

You're not the first guy to get gyno and not the last. @AE1079 and I were talking about high estrogen and TRT for a while now and you are a prime example of this.

Lets talk diet training first.

I'd like to see you stay on the logging front, keep updating diet training daily as I'd like to see your fat intake and cortisol levels.
Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Cycle and estrogen
The issue with what you're doing with aromasin and tamoxifen, is you're overcompensating for high estrogen due to gynecomastia. Thats normal for guys to do but dangerous in the long run.
You need to stop EOD aromasin. Switch to aromasin Monday 12.5mgs and Thursday 12.5mgs
increase tamoxifen to 40mgs ED
also do NOT squeeze the nipples or touch them or play with them, it will increase prolactin levels and make the gynecomastia worse.


Testosterone use
Can you pleas share more pic of the testosterone vial, (I saw ones above) what is this lab you're using? I dont understand where you go this.
You are from USA?
I have suspicion it might be the testosterone itself too.

And if you are continuing to get E2 side effects with this protocol which is somewhat aggressive then you either need to reduce total dose or get off as the juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

Tamoxifen does take some time to build up and work so be patient on that front. This protocol should stop e2 from binding to its beta receptors and aromasin should rid of excess E2 in blood serum, my only concern is with tamox Is its ability to quickly turn E1 > E2, but aromasin should take care of that.

In this case it’s appropriate to use a AI 100%

 

[onebaldwonder]

@onebaldwonder fully now welcome to the EVO family happy to see you share, and EVO is a NO judgement zone, nothing is embarrassing here, we dont judge we just support.

You're not the first guy to get gyno and not the last. @AE1079 and I were talking about high estrogen and TRT for a while now and you are a prime example of this.

Lets talk diet training first.

I'd like to see you stay on the logging front, keep updating diet training daily as I'd like to see your fat intake and cortisol levels.
Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Cycle and estrogen
The issue with what you're doing with aromasin and tamoxifen, is you're overcompensating for high estrogen due to gynecomastia. Thats normal for guys to do but dangerous in the long run.
You need to stop EOD aromasin. Switch to aromasin Monday 12.5mgs and Thursday 12.5mgs
increase tamoxifen to 40mgs ED
also do NOT squeeze the nipples or touch them or play with them, it will increase prolactin levels and make the gynecomastia worse.


Testosterone use
Can you pleas share more pic of the testosterone vial, (I saw ones above) what is this lab you're using? I dont understand where you go this.
You are from USA?
I have suspicion it might be the testosterone itself too.

I logged the diet, didn't do the whole macros as it gets a bit too tedious and begins to take the enjoyment out of the experience, when I say chicken it means 1 chicken breast, basmatti rice means 1 cup of rice as I'm not into big portions atm. The training was wrote above, and I'll continue to write it as the days progress.

The meal plan I started as of Monday is :
Breakfast
-4 eggs, 50g Porridge oats and fruit
Meal 1 and 2 ( sometimes but rarely a 3rd )
1 cup or 1 microwave packet of basmatti rice with 1 chicken breast
I will also log the additional snacks or times I trip and something falls into my mouth.

Cardio at the moment I'm trying to do everyday as I feel very groggy and overweight, the most relaxing form for me is steady state on a treadmill. Depending on how my knees feel it varies between 6kmph-9, cardiovascular wise I'm pretty fit so even at those paces I can run comfortably for about 15-20mins before sweating. So stick on my little pony and I'm happy.

Just panicking and don't want to get to get bad gyno and try to reverse/minimise the damage done. That's the only reason I thought to run the AI/SERM that way, but obviously "you know nothing john snow".

I don't know what I can accomplish by uploading more photos of the same bottle but I am from the UK and that was purchased from a company called chiltonlabs, just by typing that into Google you should be able to find their website. I was directed there after reading reddit forums on where to source it from prior to finding more credible forums. The positive about the company is it's extremely attractive pricing comparable to others, and from what I've researched it seems to be a trustworthy source.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Wednesday 18th December 2024

Food:
50g Porridge with water and 1 banana, 4 whole eggs
2 sugar free red bull
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice but last meal had 2 breasts
5 custard cream biscuits
1 pear, 1 banana

Gym-arms
Set.reps@weight/pin number
Cable rope pushdown
1.21@8 2.16@9 3.13@9 4.13@9
Cable overhead rope extension
1.18@6 2.14@6 3.12@6 410@6
Single arm Cable pushdown
1.15@2 2.14@2 3.15@2
Decline Cable curl
1.15@4 2.13@4 3.12@4 4.11@4
Spider curl db
1.13@10 2.12@10 3.12@10
Hammer db curl
1.12@15 2.13@15 3.11@15
Cable crunch
1.20@10 2.14@10 3.19@10
Cardio, treadmill 20mins @ 7.5, 0 incline

 

[onebaldwonder]

As requested, I've took a photo of all information on the vial.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

As requested, I've took a photo of all information on the vial.

Scotland you're a UK guy? @onebaldwonder

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I logged the diet, didn't do the whole macros as it gets a bit too tedious and begins to take the enjoyment out of the experience, when I say chicken it means 1 chicken breast, basmatti rice means 1 cup of rice as I'm not into big portions atm. The training was wrote above, and I'll continue to write it as the days progress.

The meal plan I started as of Monday is :
Breakfast
-4 eggs, 50g Porridge oats and fruit
Meal 1 and 2 ( sometimes but rarely a 3rd )
1 cup or 1 microwave packet of basmatti rice with 1 chicken breast
I will also log the additional snacks or times I trip and something falls into my mouth.

Cardio at the moment I'm trying to do everyday as I feel very groggy and overweight, the most relaxing form for me is steady state on a treadmill. Depending on how my knees feel it varies between 6kmph-9, cardiovascular wise I'm pretty fit so even at those paces I can run comfortably for about 15-20mins before sweating. So stick on my little pony and I'm happy.

Just panicking and don't want to get to get bad gyno and try to reverse/minimise the damage done. That's the only reason I thought to run the AI/SERM that way, but obviously "you know nothing john snow".

I don't know what I can accomplish by uploading more photos of the same bottle but I am from the UK and that was purchased from a company called chiltonlabs, just by typing that into Google you should be able to find their website. I was directed there after reading reddit forums on where to source it from prior to finding more credible forums. The positive about the company is it's extremely attractive pricing comparable to others, and from what I've researched it seems to be a trustworthy source.

from reading this, seems you're high carbs, as you get high carbs you'll get bloat and higher estrogen
you need higher fiber to flush estrogen from the body so diet matters a lot
@AE1079 mentioned fiber and estrogen in another post

can you please keep updating with foods @onebaldwonder

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Wednesday 18th December 2024

Food:
50g Porridge with water and 1 banana, 4 whole eggs
2 sugar free red bull
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice but last meal had 2 breasts
5 custard cream biscuits
1 pear, 1 banana

Gym-arms
Set.reps@weight/pin number
Cable rope pushdown
1.21@8 2.16@9 3.13@9 4.13@9
Cable overhead rope extension
1.18@6 2.14@6 3.12@6 410@6
Single arm Cable pushdown
1.15@2 2.14@2 3.15@2
Decline Cable curl
1.15@4 2.13@4 3.12@4 4.11@4
Spider curl db
1.13@10 2.12@10 3.12@10
Hammer db curl
1.12@15 2.13@15 3.11@15
Cable crunch
1.20@10 2.14@10 3.19@10
Cardio, treadmill 20mins @ 7.5, 0 incline

Can you do without red bull and biscuits? replace with protein bar

the gym, did you start with cardio too?

 

[onebaldwonder]

Scotland you're a UK guy? @onebaldwonder

from reading this, seems you're high carbs, as you get high carbs you'll get bloat and higher estrogen
you need higher fiber to flush estrogen from the body so diet matters a lot
@AE1079 mentioned fiber and estrogen in another post

can you please keep updating with foods @onebaldwonder

Can you do without red bull and biscuits? replace with protein bar

the gym, did you start with cardio too?

From Northern Ireland UK yes

Is there a page you could redirect me to so I reassess what my core meal plans should be or methods to increase fiber, please and thank you.

I mean I could replace them but ultimately I'm just getting into the cleaner eating again and I'm only human, would a couple of sugar free energy drinks and a few biscuits be that damming?

As for cardio I'll make it clearer in the notes but it is typically done at the end of my workout as I don't have the availability to split cardio and weights into two separate sessions.

 

[Mobster]

-32 years old
-balding without gear
-20-25% BF?
-6.1ft
-228lbs
-Attached photo was taken on November 6th 2024
-the two blood tests attached, the one in the green numbers was taken on the 4th November 2024, the one with a number of parameters in red was taken on December 11th 2024.
-No prior steroid cycles, however back in 2018 approximately I took a sarms cycle consisting of the following:
-Rad140
-Lgd4033
-mk677
-mk2866
All of those was taken at the recommended lower label dosage for an extended period of time, to memory approximately 3months. No PCT was conducted after this.

History of mental health issues, recently came off a substantial amount of medication with guidance of the health care professional, these was:
-Priadel lithium @1200mg
-Biquelle XL @ 150mg
-Diazepam @ 6mg
-Venleflaxine @ 300mg
these was weaned down over a period of several months, i was clear of any medication approximately 4 weeks prior to initial blood test.

self administered TRT which escalated into a cycle.

Today Tuesday 17th December I had an appointment with a HRT specialist, advised to stop taking Test(e)300, wean myself off and upon completion of the vial. Wait 2-3months before another consultation to see where I stand within their practice.

Started injecting test(e)300 approximately 6 weeks ago, began dose at 0.15-0.2ml per injection twice weekly. Was feeling great so lack of experience and poor judgement I jumped to 0.3ml EOD. Attached below is my supplier aswell the remaining steroid in the vial, I did not start with any AI or SERM. I have order Aromasin and Nolvadex on the 16th December 2024, as I am experiencing what seems to be E2 related gyno or potentially prolactin.

Supporting vitamins:
-Vitamin D3+K2(Mk-7) by nutrition geeks from amazon (taken in morning)
-P5P (taken in morning)
-Vitamin B12(taken in morning)
-L-Lysine (for coldsores)
-Magnesium glycinate 3-1 nutrition geeks
-Zinc

Started a workout and food log on Monday 9th December

Pure Gym and works Gym are used, certain machines are displayed as 1-20, unclear on weight. Other machines are labelled so forgive any inconsistencies.

Monday 9th December
Food:
2xdouble bacon&egg Mcmuffin, 1xcaramel latte, 1xlatte, basmatti rice with chicken x 2, 0.3ml test(e) 300, 2 red sugar free redbull.
Gym-chest
Design = reps @ weight
Flat bb bench
1.15@80 2.12@90 3.8@90 4.10@90
DB incline
4 sets was performed @ 35kg, reps was not counted.
Cable fly (pin height 31)
1.23@3 2.16@5 3.14@5 4.11@5
No abs and no cardio

Tuesday 10th December
Food:
4 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
Oxtail soup,cinnamon bagel, chicken breast
3 sugar free red bull
Gym-arms
Cable rope pushdown
1.23@8 2.16@9 3.15@9 4.12@9
Straight bar pushdown
1.21@10 2.20@12 3.12@14 4.13@14
Overhead rope extension
1.10@6 2.9@6 3.10@6 4.11@6
Cable straight bar curl
1.19@8 2.13@8 3.13@8 4.14@8
Cable rope hammer
1.14@7 2.19@7 3.13@7 4.12@7
Decline Cable curl
1.10@4 2.10@4 3.12@4 4.10@4
Cable crunches, no cardio

Wednesday 11th December
Food:
1 mocha, 2 caramel squares, 1 bacon bap
3 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
1 sugar free monster
0.3ml test(e) 300
Gym-shoulders
DB lat raise
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.13@10
Db shoulder press
1.9@30 2.9@30 3.7@30
Cable rope facepulls
1.18@10 2.11@10 3.12@10
Cable lat raise (pin height 5)
1.12@2 2.18@2 3.15@2
Bb shrugs
1.12@80 2.19@80 3.10@80
Cardio-treadmill 20mins speed 7, 0 incline

Thursday 12th December
Food:
5 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
Homemade chicken soup
Chicken and basmatti rice x 2
1 sugar free monster, 1 donut
Gym-legs
Knee extensions
1.19@8 2.25@8 3.24@8 4.24@8
Front squat
1.12@50 2.13@50 3.15@50
Calf raises standing
1.20@12 2.19@12 3.23@12
Hamstring curl seated
1.14@8 2.13@8 3.11@8
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0 incline.

Friday 13th December
Forgot to monitor today, however today was back, no Cardio or abs done.

Saturday 14th December
Food:
4 eggs, 1 toast with peanut butter/butter
Princess,sweets,chocolate
2 sugar free monster
Chicken soup
Gym-chest
Incline smith bench(seat pin 4)
1.14@90 2.10@90 3.10@9 4.13@90
Guillotine press
1.12@60 2.13@60 3.11@60
incline DB press(pin height 3)
1.12@30 2.8@34 3.8@34
Cable fly (pin height 16)
1.20@14 2.16@14 3.12@14 4.10@14
Hanging leg raises
1.16 2.22 4.19
Cable rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.13@36 3.12@36
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0incline

Sunday 15th December
Food:
2 eggs, tim Hortons breakfast wrap
Sunday dinner
0.2ml test(e)300
Gym-legs
Calf raise seated
Forgot to note
Knee extension
Forgot to note
Perfect squat machine
1.18@60 2.11@80 3.10@80 4.9@80
Cannonball squat BB
1.16@80 2.11@100 3.8@100(pause reps)
Walking BB lunge
1.19@20 2.22@20 3.18@20 dropped to 10@BW

Monday 16th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
5 eggs
2 X chicken and basmatti rice
Gym-rest

Tuesday 17th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
4 eggs
3 x chicken and basmatti rice
1xmocha
Gym-chest
Forgot to note

Working hours 1448-2258, typically asleep by 0100, awake with family by 0600-0700.

I hope this provides adequate information.

Bodyfat probably 20%. Not 25

 

[Eddie Haskell]

From Northern Ireland UK yes

Is there a page you could redirect me to so I reassess what my core meal plans should be or methods to increase fiber, please and thank you.

I mean I could replace them but ultimately I'm just getting into the cleaner eating again and I'm only human, would a couple of sugar free energy drinks and a few biscuits be that damming?

As for cardio I'll make it clearer in the notes but it is typically done at the end of my workout as I don't have the availability to split cardio and weights into two separate sessions.

Everyone is different with food we have to work around your meal plan thats the best way.

You know @Mobster also UK guy?

 

[onebaldwonder]

Everyone is different with food we have to work around your meal plan thats the best way.

You know @Mobster also UK guy?

At the moment I'm working at trying to clean it back up but I fear if I go too clean too quick I'll just crumble.

So I've discovered as I've listened to a few podcasts trying to learn

 

[ceo]

Is a great start to this log.
Your 32 years old and you have a lot of time ahead of you to improve your body.

 

[ROIDDERS]

That's a really good vitamin list.

However, I would suggest consolidating things. check out n2guard it has most everything in the formula already.

 

[chesty]

The food looks pretty solid..
I like how you're getting into oxtail soup./ That's good protein.

 

[Ulter]

Training session, looks really good.
You put together some nice push downs and rope extensions in the same training session.

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[e2]

Excellent work on this log so far.

And I love how you also included Your sleep schedule.

 

[2Thick]

Nice buddy. I like how you're balancing your family time your work time and your training altogether. That's life for everybody.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Great start to this long as others have said.

for gyno you might want to consider letro as well, its a very strong AI!

 

[Wootoom]

It seems like you have a lot of different things you're working on at the same time.
But I would definitely get your gyno checked by a professional to make sure.

 

[JasonPriest]

Worst case scenario with gynecomastia, you can always have a surgery later on.

The new surgeries are very non-invasive. It's not like it used to be.

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro i like my men with a little gyno. why not. suck the nips and get some action going if you know what i mean lol

 

[Quadsweep]

I can't tell from the picture if you have gyno or not.
But I can tell you, it's nothing to mess around with and it's better to catch it early and get it taken care of then. Let it sit around.

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Glad to see you have the AI ordered and have started the log. Looking forward to following along.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Thursday 19th December 2024
Food
 Breakfast
porridge 50g, 1/2 banana, 6 whole eggs
Meal 1
Average sized chicken breast, 1 250g packet of microwave basmatti rice
Meal 2 and 3
Chicken breast with 125g basmatti rice
one sugar free red bull

Gym-shoulders
set.reps@weight/pin load
rear cable fly
1.18@1 2.14@2 3.15@2
Db shoulder press
1.17@25 2.12@30 3.10@30 4.7@30
seated db lat raise
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
1&1/2 rep lat raise
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Cable shrug
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.12@10
Hanging leg raises
1.15 2.13 3.12

Cardio S/S treadmill 15mins@8kpmh

Mindset has improved, decided to drop down to 0.15ml Test(e)300 twice weekly, 100mg/week. To see how my body responds since its already reacted poorly to 300mg/week, aromasin and nolvadex arrived so the suggested 12.5mg aromasin twice weekly and 40 nolvadex ED will be done initially to resolve immediate high levels of E2 and reduce gyno symptoms.

Questions :
-My intention is to only use the AI until the 357 E2 is back within healthy ranges and then continue on the Nolvadex till the end of the PCT. Then run a course of Raloxifene at 60mg for 10 days reducing to 30mg until the gyno has reduced. Is this an incorrect thought process ? I am slowly making my way your content online and learning so I apologise in advance. If not then how would you go about running the AI and SERM till the end of the PCT.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

At the moment I'm working at trying to clean it back up but I fear if I go too clean too quick I'll just crumble.

So I've discovered as I've listened to a few podcasts trying to learn

You should add protein bars easier to digest and they taste good, the switch from junk to healthy is hard, but junk to protein bars much easier.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Thursday 19th December 2024
Food
 Breakfast
porridge 50g, 1/2 banana, 6 whole eggs
Meal 1
Average sized chicken breast, 1 250g packet of microwave basmatti rice
Meal 2 and 3
Chicken breast with 125g basmatti rice
one sugar free red bull

Gym-shoulders
set.reps@weight/pin load
rear cable fly
1.18@1 2.14@2 3.15@2
Db shoulder press
1.17@25 2.12@30 3.10@30 4.7@30
seated db lat raise
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
1&1/2 rep lat raise
[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]
Cable shrug
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.12@10
Hanging leg raises
1.15 2.13 3.12

Cardio S/S treadmill 15mins@8kpmh

Mindset has improved, decided to drop down to 0.15ml Test(e)300 twice weekly, 100mg/week. To see how my body responds since its already reacted poorly to 300mg/week, aromasin and nolvadex arrived so the suggested 12.5mg aromasin twice weekly and 40 nolvadex ED will be done initially to resolve immediate high levels of E2 and reduce gyno symptoms.

Questions :
-My intention is to only use the AI until the 357 E2 is back within healthy ranges and then continue on the Nolvadex till the end of the PCT. Then run a course of Raloxifene at 60mg for 10 days reducing to 30mg until the gyno has reduced. Is this an incorrect thought process ? I am slowly making my way your content online and learning so I apologise in advance. If not then how would you go about running the AI and SERM till the end of the PCT.

@onebaldwonder good update

Food
this is meals for the whole day? or you have more?

Training
cardio 15min total or 15min pre/post?

Cycle and Q
If you use too many Ais and SERMs you'll cause long term damage to your body and can cause further psychological problems by crashing E2 too much. You need fairly high E2 to stay stable.
I suggest you cut down aromasin use to 12.5mgs 2x/week only for 2 weeks and switch to 1x/week after.
tamoxifen 60mgs ed for this week, but dont switch to raloxifene.

Testosterone I would say at 150mgs/week split into 3 50mgs shots.

PCT
And you shouldn't consider PCT yet with your situation.

 

[onebaldwonder]

@onebaldwonder good update

Food
this is meals for the whole day? or you have more?

Training
cardio 15min total or 15min pre/post?

Cycle and Q
If you use too many Ais and SERMs you'll cause long term damage to your body and can cause further psychological problems by crashing E2 too much. You need fairly high E2 to stay stable.
I suggest you cut down aromasin use to 12.5mgs 2x/week only for 2 weeks and switch to 1x/week after.
tamoxifen 60mgs ed for this week, but dont switch to raloxifene.

Testosterone I would say at 150mgs/week split into 3 50mgs shots.

PCT
And you shouldn't consider PCT yet with your situation.

That was my food for the whole day just over 2k calories, was still 4 meals just smaller in size.

Cardio is after my workout and 15mins total.

I read that Raloxifene is better at removing existing gynecomastia and only considered a Raloxifene protocol after my current cycle has finished and after the PCT.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

That was my food for the whole day just over 2k calories, was still 4 meals just smaller in size.

Cardio is after my workout and 15mins total.

I read that Raloxifene is better at removing existing gynecomastia and only considered a Raloxifene protocol after my current cycle has finished and after the PCT.

food
by porridge you mean oatmeal?

and this is not enough food
can you add an avocado? 1 whole one
add some walnuts
and eat a protein bar
you're going too intense

training
add 15min preworkout cardio please as well

Tamoxifen vs Raloxifene
In theory ralox works better but in practice I found guys do better with tamoxifen vs ralox for existing gynecomastia. @AE1079 your views?

I gave you a layout on estrogen control, you following this?

Cycle and Q
If you use too many Ais and SERMs you'll cause long term damage to your body and can cause further psychological problems by crashing E2 too much. You need fairly high E2 to stay stable.
I suggest you cut down aromasin use to 12.5mgs 2x/week only for 2 weeks and switch to 1x/week after.
tamoxifen 60mgs ed for this week, but dont switch to raloxifene.

Testosterone I would say at 150mgs/week split into 3 50mgs shots.

 

[onebaldwonder]

food
by porridge you mean oatmeal?

and this is not enough food
can you add an avocado? 1 whole one
add some walnuts
and eat a protein bar
you're going too intense

training
add 15min preworkout cardio please as well

Tamoxifen vs Raloxifene
In theory ralox works better but in practice I found guys do better with tamoxifen vs ralox for existing gynecomastia. @AE1079 your views?

I gave you a layout on estrogen control, you following this?

Cycle and estrogen
The issue with what you're doing with aromasin and tamoxifen, is you're overcompensating for high estrogen due to gynecomastia. Thats normal for guys to do but dangerous in the long run.
You need to stop EOD aromasin. Switch to aromasin Monday 12.5mgs and Thursday 12.5mgs
increase tamoxifen to 40mgs ED
also do NOT squeeze the nipples or touch them or play with them, it will increase prolactin levels and make the gynecomastia worse.

I don't like avocado's but I could much on a handful of nuts, small nuts like the ones on this forum. Porridge oats? Must be a different wording between UK and USA. Although it may not seem like much food, I've finished the day feeling relatively full. If my glycogen stores diminish then I could always do a refeed day and adjust moving on. But I'm determined to lose BF as to be in a better condition for using the steroids.

Could you explain the reasoning for cardio prior to working out instead of after please? Just typically I like to do a relatively relaxing run at the end to give me a mild sweat and get those endorphins saving the energy for the focus of my workout which is the weights.

Slightly confused at which one you want me to follow, I quoted the one you sent me yesterday which was at 40mgs on nolvadex/tamoxifen.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I don't like avocado's but I could much on a handful of nuts, small nuts like the ones on this forum. Porridge oats? Must be a different wording between UK and USA. Although it may not seem like much food, I've finished the day feeling relatively full. If my glycogen stores diminish then I could always do a refeed day and adjust moving on. But I'm determined to lose BF as to be in a better condition for using the steroids.

Could you explain the reasoning for cardio prior to working out instead of after please? Just typically I like to do a relatively relaxing run at the end to give me a mild sweat and get those endorphins saving the energy for the focus of my workout which is the weights.

Slightly confused at which one you want me to follow, I quoted the one you sent me yesterday which was at 40mgs on nolvadex/tamoxifen.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

On the food part, no issues with avocados just switch to walnuts and almonds, best is walnuts with high omega 3.

The training, pre and post workout cardio is important as a warm up and as a fat loss tool.

The gyno, start with 60mgs ed for 1 week and go down to 40mgs week 2, its a pyramid down. I had another look at your gyno @onebaldwonder and would up the tamox week 1.

 

[AE1079]

food
by porridge you mean oatmeal?

and this is not enough food
can you add an avocado? 1 whole one
add some walnuts
and eat a protein bar
you're going too intense

training
add 15min preworkout cardio please as well

Tamoxifen vs Raloxifene
In theory ralox works better but in practice I found guys do better with tamoxifen vs ralox for existing gynecomastia. @AE1079 your views?

I gave you a layout on estrogen control, you following this?

I haven’t had a chance to dive into raloxifene but I have heard it’s extremely beneficial for gyno. Will do some more research on it in the background

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I haven’t had a chance to dive into raloxifene but I have heard it’s extremely beneficial for gyno. Will do some more research on it in the background

I find in practical terms tamoxifen is better with gyno imo

 

[AE1079]

I find in practical terms tamoxifen is better with gyno imo

Tamoxifen is known for clotting blood, so it’s not a great long term therapy for steroid induced gyno. It can still keep E2 relatively high, it stops the binding for sure but it does increase total clotting in blood leading to more health risks.. did someone say primo?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Tamoxifen is known for clotting blood, so it’s not a great long term therapy for steroid induced gyno. It can still keep E2 relatively high, it stops the binding for sure but it does increase total clotting in blood leading to more health risks.. did someone say primo?

I knew you would bring up primbolan @AE1079

You're citing which study on the tamoxifen and blood clots?
possible I just havent seen it.

We are mainly tamoxifen vs raloxifene convo here

 

[AE1079]

I knew you would bring up primbolan @AE1079

You're citing which study on the tamoxifen and blood clots?
possible I just havent seen it.

We are mainly tamoxifen vs raloxifene convo here

I’m saying tamoxifen isn’t always a great drug for certain people, steroid users generally have high hematocrit levels, with cholesterol and plaque build up if they aren’t careful, imagine that mixture with now some clotting.

It’s quite well known bro! Get stuck into the research my man!!

 

[AE1079]

I knew you would bring up primbolan @AE1079

You're citing which study on the tamoxifen and blood clots?
possible I just havent seen it.

We are mainly tamoxifen vs raloxifene convo here

The never ending battle of Eddie and AE - Tamoxifen vs Primo all love bro, I would like to see raloxifene as a better alternative, will do some research on this for sure

 

[LevButlerov]

Tamoxifen is known for clotting blood, so it’s not a great long term therapy for steroid induced gyno. It can still keep E2 relatively high, it stops the binding for sure but it does increase total clotting in blood leading to more health risks.. did someone say primo?

I’m saying tamoxifen isn’t always a great drug for certain people, steroid users generally have high hematocrit levels, with cholesterol and plaque build up if they aren’t careful, imagine that mixture with now some clotting.

It’s quite well known bro! Get stuck into the research my man!!

The never ending battle of Eddie and AE - Tamoxifen vs Primo all love bro, I would like to see raloxifene as a better alternative, will do some research on this for sure

I knew you would bring up primbolan @AE1079

You're citing which study on the tamoxifen and blood clots?
possible I just havent seen it.

We are mainly tamoxifen vs raloxifene convo here

@AE1079 @Eddie Haskell sorry I'm late to this party. @Eddie Haskell thanks for the heads up.

@AE1079 The main study, to my knowledge, used by bodybuilders to cite blood clotting with tamoxifen is this one:
Correlation of the tamoxifen use with the increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism in elderly women with breast cancer
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6320050/

Tamoxifen use is associated with 1.95-fold increased odds of deep vein thrombosis or pulmonary embolism among older women with breast cancer in Taiwan.

However, the issue of clotting/thrombosis is a common trait to all SERMS and women. Raloxifene has the same issue, which is likely related to estrogenic activity in general.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK76313/

There was a significantly greater risk of either DVT or PE in women receiving raloxifene, with 189 (68%) out of 279 events occurring in women receiving raloxifene (OR 1.62, 95% CI: 1.25, 2.09, p<0.001).

deep vein thrombosis =DVT for readers.

Would primobolan treat existing gynecomastia (lump form)? I have my doubts, and I haven't seen anecdotal evidence of this either. Nonetheless, I am open to changing my mind if more evidence is presented.

Ultimately, The OP @onebaldwonder will have to make the decision, but my advice would be to moderate Ai and SERM doses for safety sake.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@AE1079 @Eddie Haskell sorry I'm late to this party. @Eddie Haskell thanks for the heads up.

@AE1079 The main study, to my knowledge, used by bodybuilders to cite blood clotting with tamoxifen is this one:
Correlation of the tamoxifen use with the increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism in elderly women with breast cancer
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6320050/



However, the issue of clotting/thrombosis is a common trait to all SERMS and women. Raloxifene has the same issue, which is likely related to estrogenic activity in general.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK76313/


deep vein thrombosis =DVT for readers.

Would primobolan treat existing gynecomastia (lump form)? I have my doubts, and I haven't seen anecdotal evidence of this either. Nonetheless, I am open to changing my mind if more evidence is presented.

Ultimately, The OP @onebaldwonder will have to make the decision, but my advice would be to moderate Ai and SERM doses for safety sake.

Nice I just clicked the studies checking them @LevButlerov thanks

 

[RoySimpson]

-32 years old
-balding without gear
-20-25% BF?
-6.1ft
-228lbs
-Attached photo was taken on November 6th 2024
-the two blood tests attached, the one in the green numbers was taken on the 4th November 2024, the one with a number of parameters in red was taken on December 11th 2024.
-No prior steroid cycles, however back in 2018 approximately I took a sarms cycle consisting of the following:
-Rad140
-Lgd4033
-mk677
-mk2866
All of those was taken at the recommended lower label dosage for an extended period of time, to memory approximately 3months. No PCT was conducted after this.

History of mental health issues, recently came off a substantial amount of medication with guidance of the health care professional, these was:
-Priadel lithium @1200mg
-Biquelle XL @ 150mg
-Diazepam @ 6mg
-Venleflaxine @ 300mg
these was weaned down over a period of several months, i was clear of any medication approximately 4 weeks prior to initial blood test.

self administered TRT which escalated into a cycle.

Today Tuesday 17th December I had an appointment with a HRT specialist, advised to stop taking Test(e)300, wean myself off and upon completion of the vial. Wait 2-3months before another consultation to see where I stand within their practice.

Started injecting test(e)300 approximately 6 weeks ago, began dose at 0.15-0.2ml per injection twice weekly. Was feeling great so lack of experience and poor judgement I jumped to 0.3ml EOD. Attached below is my supplier aswell the remaining steroid in the vial, I did not start with any AI or SERM. I have order Aromasin and Nolvadex on the 16th December 2024, as I am experiencing what seems to be E2 related gyno or potentially prolactin.

Supporting vitamins:
-Vitamin D3+K2(Mk-7) by nutrition geeks from amazon (taken in morning)
-P5P (taken in morning)
-Vitamin B12(taken in morning)
-L-Lysine (for coldsores)
-Magnesium glycinate 3-1 nutrition geeks
-Zinc

Started a workout and food log on Monday 9th December

Pure Gym and works Gym are used, certain machines are displayed as 1-20, unclear on weight. Other machines are labelled so forgive any inconsistencies.

Monday 9th December
Food:
2xdouble bacon&egg Mcmuffin, 1xcaramel latte, 1xlatte, basmatti rice with chicken x 2, 0.3ml test(e) 300, 2 red sugar free redbull.
Gym-chest
Design = reps @ weight
Flat bb bench
1.15@80 2.12@90 3.8@90 4.10@90
DB incline
4 sets was performed @ 35kg, reps was not counted.
Cable fly (pin height 31)
1.23@3 2.16@5 3.14@5 4.11@5
No abs and no cardio

Tuesday 10th December
Food:
4 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
2 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
Oxtail soup,cinnamon bagel, chicken breast
3 sugar free red bull
Gym-arms
Cable rope pushdown
1.23@8 2.16@9 3.15@9 4.12@9
Straight bar pushdown
1.21@10 2.20@12 3.12@14 4.13@14
Overhead rope extension
1.10@6 2.9@6 3.10@6 4.11@6
Cable straight bar curl
1.19@8 2.13@8 3.13@8 4.14@8
Cable rope hammer
1.14@7 2.19@7 3.13@7 4.12@7
Decline Cable curl
1.10@4 2.10@4 3.12@4 4.10@4
Cable crunches, no cardio

Wednesday 11th December
Food:
1 mocha, 2 caramel squares, 1 bacon bap
3 portions of chicken and basmatti rice
1 sugar free monster
0.3ml test(e) 300
Gym-shoulders
DB lat raise
1.15@10 2.16@10 3.13@10
Db shoulder press
1.9@30 2.9@30 3.7@30
Cable rope facepulls
1.18@10 2.11@10 3.12@10
Cable lat raise (pin height 5)
1.12@2 2.18@2 3.15@2
Bb shrugs
1.12@80 2.19@80 3.10@80
Cardio-treadmill 20mins speed 7, 0 incline

Thursday 12th December
Food:
5 eggs, 2 toast with peanut butter/butter
Homemade chicken soup
Chicken and basmatti rice x 2
1 sugar free monster, 1 donut
Gym-legs
Knee extensions
1.19@8 2.25@8 3.24@8 4.24@8
Front squat
1.12@50 2.13@50 3.15@50
Calf raises standing
1.20@12 2.19@12 3.23@12
Hamstring curl seated
1.14@8 2.13@8 3.11@8
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0 incline.

Friday 13th December
Forgot to monitor today, however today was back, no Cardio or abs done.

Saturday 14th December
Food:
4 eggs, 1 toast with peanut butter/butter
Princess,sweets,chocolate
2 sugar free monster
Chicken soup
Gym-chest
Incline smith bench(seat pin 4)
1.14@90 2.10@90 3.10@9 4.13@90
Guillotine press
1.12@60 2.13@60 3.11@60
incline DB press(pin height 3)
1.12@30 2.8@34 3.8@34
Cable fly (pin height 16)
1.20@14 2.16@14 3.12@14 4.10@14
Hanging leg raises
1.16 2.22 4.19
Cable rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.13@36 3.12@36
Cardio-treadmil 15mins @ speed 6, 0incline

Sunday 15th December
Food:
2 eggs, tim Hortons breakfast wrap
Sunday dinner
0.2ml test(e)300
Gym-legs
Calf raise seated
Forgot to note
Knee extension
Forgot to note
Perfect squat machine
1.18@60 2.11@80 3.10@80 4.9@80
Cannonball squat BB
1.16@80 2.11@100 3.8@100(pause reps)
Walking BB lunge
1.19@20 2.22@20 3.18@20 dropped to 10@BW

Monday 16th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
5 eggs
2 X chicken and basmatti rice
Gym-rest

Tuesday 17th December
Food:
Porridge with water&blueberries
4 eggs
3 x chicken and basmatti rice
1xmocha
Gym-chest
Forgot to note

Working hours 1448-2258, typically asleep by 0100, awake with family by 0600-0700.

I hope this provides adequate information.

@onebaldwonder solid work her bro keep it up!

 

[ballin2504]

The gyno isn’t as bad as you think

 

[AE1079]

@LevButlerov I don’t think Primobolan would act as a treatment for pre-existing gyno, it’s simply not strong enough and that’s not the intended use of methenolone. Treatment would simply be surgery, the option of using SERM/AIs is presented as a reactive or proactive measure for the potential of steroid induced gyno.

Going through logs both @Eddie Haskell and myself are seeing even just at TRT doses, men with high E2, aromatising rates are higher now I feel - which can be correlated to more people using testosterone and using bloodwork.

I just feel like there needs to be better options or even pre requisites to avoid these issues. Type 1 and 2 AIs have their use in bodybuilding but the use of these if far more dangerous in SOME cases. I think the combination of side effects in terms of blood viscosity and high BP caused by gear can exacerbate potential harm of these SERMs.

So instead of throwing a drug at it what can we do? Diet and exercise? Knowing what micro nutrients to combat the above? I thimk
We should be looking at these points first and using AI/SERMs as a last resort.

 

[onebaldwonder]

@AE1079 @Eddie Haskell sorry I'm late to this party. @Eddie Haskell thanks for the heads up.

@AE1079 The main study, to my knowledge, used by bodybuilders to cite blood clotting with tamoxifen is this one:
Correlation of the tamoxifen use with the increased risk of deep vein thrombosis and pulmonary embolism in elderly women with breast cancer
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6320050/



However, the issue of clotting/thrombosis is a common trait to all SERMS and women. Raloxifene has the same issue, which is likely related to estrogenic activity in general.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK76313/


deep vein thrombosis =DVT for readers.

Would primobolan treat existing gynecomastia (lump form)? I have my doubts, and I haven't seen anecdotal evidence of this either. Nonetheless, I am open to changing my mind if more evidence is presented.

Ultimately, The OP @onebaldwonder will have to make the decision, but my advice would be to moderate Ai and SERM doses for safety sake.

Thanks for the link to the study and it's something I came across whilst digging into it myself, my now new concern is my grandad actually died from DVT.

So with that new discovery I'm going have to be considerably more conservative with dosages, as stated prior I've lowered the TEST(E)300 to 100mg a week, with that my E2 and prolactin levels should decrease naturally from the 300mg/wk dose and I'm going to lower to the nolvadex to 40mg for the remainder of this week then drop to 20, I'd rather reduce E2 slower then increase risks of clotting. Then come the new year after only been on Aromasin and Nolvadex for approximately 11 days get my blood work done, that in combination to reducing testosterone dose should but me in a place where I am able to stop both AI and SERM. lesson learned that I'm sensitive to estrogen and have a poor threshold for testosterone ethanate.

That way if bloodwork comes back within respectable levels then I can just use 3mg of aromasin to keep E2 down to prevent the need for a SERM and gyno problems occurring again in future. Although on a 100mg/week dose I couldn't imagine that been the case but I could just be that unlucky.

Thoughts on this plan of action?

 

[onebaldwonder]

Friday 20th December 2024

Food
Breakfast
Porridge 50g and bblueberries, chicken breast(no eggs)
Meal 1
Korean style chicken bites, 4 slices of seaded multigrain bloomer, leek and potato soup
Meal 2
chicken breast and 250g basmatti rice
Meal 3
chicken breast and approx 150g pistachio nuts
Meal 4
4 eggs

Gym - Back
Sets.reps@weight/pin stack
Lat pull down
1.12@12 2.12@12 3.8@12
Lat pulldown behind head
1.11@8 2.14@8 3.8@8
Seated overhand cable row
1.19@14 2.17@16 3.13@18 4.10@18
Cable rope low row
1.12@10 2.12@10 3.10@10
T-bar row
1.10@70 2.11@70 3.7@70
Cable crunch super set with unsupported lying leg raises
1.18@10 -> 10 2.15@10 -> 15

Cardio
treadmil at end of workout 10mins@9kmph before my knees and bitch tit started crying then 10mins@7kmph

12.5mg aromasin taken
60mg Nolvadex
0.15ml Test(e)300

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@LevButlerov I don’t think Primobolan would act as a treatment for pre-existing gyno, it’s simply not strong enough and that’s not the intended use of methenolone. Treatment would simply be surgery, the option of using SERM/AIs is presented as a reactive or proactive measure for the potential of steroid induced gyno.

Going through logs both @Eddie Haskell and myself are seeing even just at TRT doses, men with high E2, aromatising rates are higher now I feel - which can be correlated to more people using testosterone and using bloodwork.

I just feel like there needs to be better options or even pre requisites to avoid these issues. Type 1 and 2 AIs have their use in bodybuilding but the use of these if far more dangerous in SOME cases. I think the combination of side effects in terms of blood viscosity and high BP caused by gear can exacerbate potential harm of these SERMs.

So instead of throwing a drug at it what can we do? Diet and exercise? Knowing what micro nutrients to combat the above? I thimk
We should be looking at these points first and using AI/SERMs as a last resort.

@AE1079 I think we should explore primobolan for gynecomastia, even masteron but not lump form.

I think @onebaldwonder does need to work on diet and training and cardio for sure, as those are likely leading factors on hormone imbalances.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Thanks for the link to the study and it's something I came across whilst digging into it myself, my now new concern is my grandad actually died from DVT.

So with that new discovery I'm going have to be considerably more conservative with dosages, as stated prior I've lowered the TEST(E)300 to 100mg a week, with that my E2 and prolactin levels should decrease naturally from the 300mg/wk dose and I'm going to lower to the nolvadex to 40mg for the remainder of this week then drop to 20, I'd rather reduce E2 slower then increase risks of clotting. Then come the new year after only been on Aromasin and Nolvadex for approximately 11 days get my blood work done, that in combination to reducing testosterone dose should but me in a place where I am able to stop both AI and SERM. lesson learned that I'm sensitive to estrogen and have a poor threshold for testosterone ethanate.

That way if bloodwork comes back within respectable levels then I can just use 3mg of aromasin to keep E2 down to prevent the need for a SERM and gyno problems occurring again in future. Although on a 100mg/week dose I couldn't imagine that been the case but I could just be that unlucky.

Thoughts on this plan of action?

That DVT is for old ladies wont impact you. You can easily stay with 150mgs TRT no issues but 3mgs aromasin why the low dose?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Friday 20th December 2024

Food
Breakfast
Porridge 50g and bblueberries, chicken breast(no eggs)
Meal 1
Korean style chicken bites, 4 slices of seaded multigrain bloomer, leek and potato soup
Meal 2
chicken breast and 250g basmatti rice
Meal 3
chicken breast and approx 150g pistachio nuts
Meal 4
4 eggs

Gym - Back
Sets.reps@weight/pin stack
Lat pull down
1.12@12 2.12@12 3.8@12
Lat pulldown behind head
1.11@8 2.14@8 3.8@8
Seated overhand cable row
1.19@14 2.17@16 3.13@18 4.10@18
Cable rope low row
1.12@10 2.12@10 3.10@10
T-bar row
1.10@70 2.11@70 3.7@70
Cable crunch super set with unsupported lying leg raises
1.18@10 -> 10 2.15@10 -> 15

Cardio
treadmil at end of workout 10mins@9kmph before my knees and bitch tit started crying then 10mins@7kmph

12.5mg aromasin taken
60mg Nolvadex
0.15ml Test(e)300

you have knee issues walking up treadmill? you mean pain?

food still lacking fats, a lot of lacking of fats, we need to add walnuts not just pistachios and can you add fish oil?

 

[AE1079]

Agreed

@AE1079 I think we should explore primobolan for gynecomastia, even masteron but not lump form.

I think @onebaldwonder does need to work on diet and training and cardio for sure, as those are likely leading factors on hormone imbalances.

 

[onebaldwonder]

That DVT is for old ladies wont impact you. You can easily stay with 150mgs TRT no issues but 3mgs aromasin why the low dose?

you have knee issues walking up treadmill? you mean pain?

food still lacking fats, a lot of lacking of fats, we need to add walnuts not just pistachios and can you add fish oil?

Because most people don't react as severe or get poor blood work results from 300mg/wk of Test(e) so if I lower it to 100mg/Wk for the remainder of the cycle and have a good experience than I know that's a tolerable dose for me. I can then increase to 150mg/wk the next time, the low dose of aromasin is because of the low dose of Test(e). Most people don't require an AI or SERM at these dosages but I'm just unlucky, so by using the low dose Aromasin Hypothetically that's all I'll need for the low dose of Test(e).

I served in the army as infantry, proceeded to I company and specialised in Javelin (just to give context as to amount of weight carried). So my knees are shot, I love running but unfortunately I can't do weights and running on a serious level and at the moment I'm prioritising bodybuilding, so I can only run for shorter periods of time at slower paces.

Meh I really dislike high fats when I'm trying to clean, I don't like walnuts so I'd rather snack on some cashews or pistachios. I have a number of vitamins in my Amazon basket but unfortunately this time of year I can't just buy them all, doing the best I can atm.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Forgot to write the vitamins in my basket, they are:
-Taurine
-Evening primrose oil
-Tumeric
-Nattokinase
-Omega 3 fish oil

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Because most people don't react as severe or get poor blood work results from 300mg/wk of Test(e) so if I lower it to 100mg/Wk for the remainder of the cycle and have a good experience than I know that's a tolerable dose for me. I can then increase to 150mg/wk the next time, the low dose of aromasin is because of the low dose of Test(e). Most people don't require an AI or SERM at these dosages but I'm just unlucky, so by using the low dose Aromasin Hypothetically that's all I'll need for the low dose of Test(e).

I served in the army as infantry, proceeded to I company and specialised in Javelin (just to give context as to amount of weight carried). So my knees are shot, I love running but unfortunately I can't do weights and running on a serious level and at the moment I'm prioritising bodybuilding, so I can only run for shorter periods of time at slower paces.

Meh I really dislike high fats when I'm trying to clean, I don't like walnuts so I'd rather snack on some cashews or pistachios. I have a number of vitamins in my Amazon basket but unfortunately this time of year I can't just buy them all, doing the best I can atm.

Forgot to write the vitamins in my basket, they are:
-Taurine
-Evening primrose oil
-Tumeric
-Nattokinase
-Omega 3 fish oil

Sure higher fats can be hard but you need them for a hormonal balance and to get goals
Can you eat almonds?

On dosing, I think 300 to 100 is a steep drop, you should cruise on let’s say 200 first before cutting down to see how you feel , physically and mentally

In vitamins , you need organ liver support first, that’s n2guard made for steroid cycles , check n2bm.com

https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard/

And you don’t need taurine n2guard has it , same with multivitamins

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@onebaldwonder
Update us please

 

[onebaldwonder]

Saturday 21st December 2024

Food
Meal 1
50g porridge and blueberries and 5 eggs
Meal 2
2 chicken breats and 250g microwave basmatti rice
Meal 3
1 chicken breast with honeymelon and 80g almonds

Additional 0.15ml Test(E)300 bringing me up to recommended 200mg/wk
60mg nolvadex

Gym-legs
Sets.reps@weight/pin stack
Narrow squat, heels on 1.25kg plate
1.12@90 2.9@100 3.8@100
RDL
1.12@100 2.9@100 3.8@100
Seated calf raise
1.16@60 2.11@70 3.10@70
Seated leg curl
1.10@52 2.8@52 3.11@45
Cardio, bike@resistance 6 , 20mins RPM above 90.

Extremely gassed during workout due to Manflu? Felt like i could of coughed up a ball.

Sunday 22nd December 2024
Food
Meal 1
80g almonds, 4 eggs, 50g Porridge and blueberries
Meal 2
1 chocolate swirl cake, 2 chocolate oaty flapjacks, 2 ham and chicken sanwiches with minestrone soup
Meal 3
2 Chicken breasts, 125g microwave basmatti rice and honeymelon

60mg nolvadex
12.5mg aromasin
Nipple sensitivity back after going from 100mg/wk to 200mg/wk

Gym-Chest
Incline smith bench (4 height)
1.13@90 2.12@100 3.7@100 4.10@80
Smith flat bench
1.10@80 2.13@80 3.14@80 4.9@80
Cable fly (16 height)
1.21@14 2.12@18 3.12@18
Db pullover
1.12@22 2.12@22 3.10@22
Lat raise db
1.21@8 2.15@8 3.16@8
Bike@resistance 7 romantic above 90 for 20mins

Breathing was noticeably better however still almost coughed up a nut because of how small they are now

 

[onebaldwonder]

Been rather busy and lack of Meal prep/containers to prep meals in, has resorted into more consolidated meals.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Weekly weigh in
BW - 223.8lbs
Dwn almost 5 lbs

 

[LevButlerov]

Been rather busy and lack of Meal prep/containers to prep meals in, has resorted into more consolidated meals.

can you buy meal containers now please?

 

[LevButlerov]

Weekly weigh in
BW - 223.8lbs
Dwn almost 5 lbs

good check in moving forward
hopefully the cardio and diet moves up on the updates

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Weekly weigh in
BW - 223.8lbs
Dwn almost 5 lbs

@onebaldwonder looking good bro........

 

[onebaldwonder]

Tuesday 24th December 2024

Gym - shoulders
Set.Reps@weight/pin stack
Smith machine shoulder press superset with lat raises
1.15@80 2.13@80 3.12@80
Lat raises
1.18@8 2.19@8 3.15@8
Reverse db fly
1.16@8 2.14@10 3. 12@10 then partials
Reverse cable fly(single)
1.13@9 2.12@0 3.11@9
Cable side lat raise
1.16@9 2.13@9 3.12@9 then partials
Cabl&.e rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.14@46 3.12@36 dropped to 27 for a few
Db tricep extension
1.16@10 2.14@10 3.11@10

0.3ml Test(e)300
12.5mg aromasin

 

[onebaldwonder]

Thursday 26th December 2024

Gym-back
Sets.Reps@Weight/pin stack
Seal row
1.18@50 2.16@50 3.14@50 4.12@50
Cable single arm row
1.14@27 2.12@36 3.13@36
Underhand latpulldown
1.9@45 2.11@45 3.12@45
Cable pullovers
1.15@41 2.14@41 3.11@41
T-bar row
1.16@60 2.14@70 3.13@70 4.12@70
Leg raises on dip bar
1.20 2.18 3.
Db curl strict
1.16@10 2.16@10 3.11@10 4.dno@10
Hammer curl db
1.14@16 2.13@16 3.12@16
Treadmill, incline 6, speed 5-6

 

[onebaldwonder]

Friday 27th December 2024

Gym - shoulders
Forgot to note

0.3ml Test(e)300

 

[onebaldwonder]

Diet has not been noted as I didn't stick to a plan over Christmas, food wasn't ate on mass but unable to clearly track. Monday 23rd - Friday 27th December 2024.

 

[onebaldwonder]

Saturday 28th December 2024

Food

Breakfast
50g porridge, blueberries, 1 banana and 4 eggs

Meal 1
200-250g chicken breast and 1 cup basmatti rice.


Meal 2
200-250g chicken breast and 1 cup basmatti rice.
200g Greek yoghurt, 10g almonds,1teaspoon flaxseed and 1 teaspoon chia seeds and blueberries.

 Snacks
2 protein coffee drinks

Gym - chest
Cable fly (17)
1.18@18 2.16@18 3.15@18 4.13@18
Db incline press
1.13@34 2.11@34 3.10@34
Flat bb bench
1.11@80 2.10@80 3.10@80 4.8@60
Hammer fly (3)
1.18@8 2.13@10 3.12@10
Cable straight bar pushdown
1.13@45 2.12@45 3.13@45 4.12@45
Cable crunch
1.12@59 2.15@50 3.16@50

Cardio done at end, treadmill, 0 incline, 7kmph for 30mins.

 

[onebaldwonder]

40mg nolvadex has been taken everyday this week, very slight nipple sensitivity. Mood has been flat? Not angry just unable to tolerate bullshit

 

[LevButlerov]

Tuesday 24th December 2024

Gym - shoulders
Set.Reps@weight/pin stack
Smith machine shoulder press superset with lat raises
1.15@80 2.13@80 3.12@80
Lat raises
1.18@8 2.19@8 3.15@8
Reverse db fly
1.16@8 2.14@10 3. 12@10 then partials
Reverse cable fly(single)
1.13@9 2.12@0 3.11@9
Cable side lat raise
1.16@9 2.13@9 3.12@9 then partials
Cabl&.e rope pushdown
1.16@36 2.14@46 3.12@36 dropped to 27 for a few
Db tricep extension
1.16@10 2.14@10 3.11@10

0.3ml Test(e)300
12.5mg aromasin

Thursday 26th December 2024

Gym-back
Sets.Reps@Weight/pin stack
Seal row
1.18@50 2.16@50 3.14@50 4.12@50
Cable single arm row
1.14@27 2.12@36 3.13@36
Underhand latpulldown
1.9@45 2.11@45 3.12@45
Cable pullovers
1.15@41 2.14@41 3.11@41
T-bar row
1.16@60 2.14@70 3.13@70 4.12@70
Leg raises on dip bar
1.20 2.18 3.
Db curl strict
1.16@10 2.16@10 3.11@10 4.dno@10
Hammer curl db
1.14@16 2.13@16 3.12@16
Treadmill, incline 6, speed 5-6

Friday 27th December 2024

Gym - shoulders
Forgot to note

0.3ml Test(e)300

Diet has not been noted as I didn't stick to a plan over Christmas, food wasn't ate on mass but unable to clearly track. Monday 23rd - Friday 27th December 2024.

Saturday 28th December 2024

Food

Breakfast
50g porridge, blueberries, 1 banana and 4 eggs

Meal 1
200-250g chicken breast and 1 cup basmatti rice.


Meal 2
200-250g chicken breast and 1 cup basmatti rice.
200g Greek yoghurt, 10g almonds,1teaspoon flaxseed and 1 teaspoon chia seeds and blueberries.

 Snacks
2 protein coffee drinks

Gym - chest
Cable fly (17)
1.18@18 2.16@18 3.15@18 4.13@18
Db incline press
1.13@34 2.11@34 3.10@34
Flat bb bench
1.11@80 2.10@80 3.10@80 4.8@60
Hammer fly (3)
1.18@8 2.13@10 3.12@10
Cable straight bar pushdown
1.13@45 2.12@45 3.13@45 4.12@45
Cable crunch
1.12@59 2.15@50 3.16@50

Cardio done at end, treadmill, 0 incline, 7kmph for 30mins.

@onebaldwonder diet clean you are keeping it right but in morning you can swap the banana for avocado?

training is good but boost incline to 2 please

40mg nolvadex has been taken everyday this week, very slight nipple sensitivity. Mood has been flat? Not angry just unable to tolerate bullshit

tamoxifen can have a mood altering effect in some individuals
I recall a recent log with this discussion a few months back and I had a few clients report the same issue
@AE1079 what are you views on this?

 

[onebaldwonder]

@onebaldwonder diet clean you are keeping it right but in morning you can swap the banana for avocado?

training is good but boost incline to 2 please

tamoxifen can have a mood altering effect in some individuals
I recall a recent log with this discussion a few months back and I had a few clients report the same issue
@AE1079 what are you views on this?

Know any recipes so the avocado doesn't taste like I've just pulled it out my sons nappy?

 

[LevButlerov]

Know any recipes so the avocado doesn't taste like I've just pulled it out my sons nappy?

lemon on it with a bit of salt see what you think

 

[stevesmi]

these meals look incredible keep it up

 

[Mobster]

Meals look on point

 

[stevesmi]

Know any recipes so the avocado doesn't taste like I've just pulled it out my sons nappy?

https://www.evolutionary.org/guacamole-recipe/

 

[zedhed]

Great job, losing 5 lbs so far.
That's good progress. Keep it going.

 

[caligirl85]

Not bad in the picture at all.

I would say that your body fat Dropping is going to be the best thing you can do for your health.

 

[Shrine]

Keep it up, man. We want to see shredded.

 

[Zyglamail]

Be careful on the Smith machine, especially when you train your shoulders.

It's an easy way to injure yourself.

 

[Arabian]

hammer curl and treadmill looks good.
Keep up with the weights and the exercise is perfect.

 

[BookerTNY]

I would be doing daily, fasted cardio.
Don't eat your breakfast until well after you're done with your cardio.

 

[sambee38]

Good job mixing between your cardio and your weight training.

That's definitely what we like to see.

 

[Austin316]

check out steve's recipe on making guac.
it will change your life!

 

[onebaldwonder]

I would be doing daily, fasted cardio.
Don't eat your breakfast until well after you're done with your cardio.

Unfortunately if I'd have to sacfrice time with my family to do cardio in the morning, I mean I could go for a morning run but atm high impact jogging is all I have available to me and that's just a no go on tarmacked roads. I know what I'm doing isn't optimal but it's the best I can do with my time

 

[onebaldwonder]

Sunday 29th December 2024

Food
Breakfast
50g porridge, blueberries, 1 banana
4 eggs
Smoothie consisting of 1cup kale, 1/2 lemon&lime zest&juice, tablespoon chia seeds, ginger, 1 cup frozen blueberries
Meal 1
200-250g salmon skin on with 1 cup basmatti rice and 1 teaspoon pumpkin seeds
Meal 2
200-250g 5% lean beef mince with 1 cup of rice
200g greek yoghurt, 1 teaspoon flaxseed, 2 teaspoon chia seeds, 15g walnuts, blueberries
Meal 3
200-250g 5% lean beef mince with 1 cup of basmatti rice
3 Satsumas

Gym - leg
Set.Reps@weight/Pin stack
Seated leg curl
1.15@45 2.17@45 3.17@45
Seated knee extension (double drop)
1.19@45->11@32->12@18 2.20@45->6@32->7@18
3.22@45->5@32->12@18
Stiff leg deadlift
1.15@100 2.14@100 3.8@100
Hack squat
1.12@90 2.11@90 3.12@90
Calf raises standing
1.10@140 2.9@140 3.9@140
Leg raises on dip bar
1.17 2.14 3.14
Cardio-bike,6 resistance, RPM above 80 for 20minutes post workout

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Unfortunately if I'd have to sacfrice time with my family to do cardio in the morning, I mean I could go for a morning run but atm high impact jogging is all I have available to me and that's just a no go on tarmacked roads. I know what I'm doing isn't optimal but it's the best I can do with my time

do what you can bro max it

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Sunday 29th December 2024

Food
Breakfast
50g porridge, blueberries, 1 banana
4 eggs
Smoothie consisting of 1cup kale, 1/2 lemon&lime zest&juice, tablespoon chia seeds, ginger, 1 cup frozen blueberries
Meal 1
200-250g salmon skin on with 1 cup basmatti rice and 1 teaspoon pumpkin seeds
Meal 2
200-250g 5% lean beef mince with 1 cup of rice
200g greek yoghurt, 1 teaspoon flaxseed, 2 teaspoon chia seeds, 15g walnuts, blueberries
Meal 3
200-250g 5% lean beef mince with 1 cup of basmatti rice
3 Satsumas

Gym - leg
Set.Reps@weight/Pin stack
Seated leg curl
1.15@45 2.17@45 3.17@45
Seated knee extension (double drop)
1.19@45->11@32->12@18 2.20@45->6@32->7@18
3.22@45->5@32->12@18
Stiff leg deadlift
1.15@100 2.14@100 3.8@100
Hack squat
1.12@90 2.11@90 3.12@90
Calf raises standing
1.10@140 2.9@140 3.9@140
Leg raises on dip bar
1.17 2.14 3.14
Cardio-bike,6 resistance, RPM above 80 for 20minutes post workout

@onebaldwonder meals outstanding today bro i like the salmon yogurt meals

legs perfect, I'd like to see hack squats go up in volume mainly reps

 

[onebaldwonder]

Monday weigh in
Bw - 218.2lbs
Down roughly 5lbs

 

[onebaldwonder]

So I've come across something I'd like some input on, I've been taking Aromasin 12.5mg twice weekly to bring my spiked estrogen under control, I've also taken Nolvadex initially at 60mg now at 40mg daily. I've come across more and more information warning against the use of AI's and the risk of plummeting IGF-1 whilst taking Nolvadex.

Since I am converting such low amount of testosterone to high amounts of E2 would it more advantageous to use a DHT compound in conjunction with testosterone next time around? Instead of using AI's. Then again due to the fact I'm more prone to Gyno means I'll have to atleast have AI on hand and potentially take a SERM anyway. The reward to risk ratio for such a miniscule amount seems to be becoming an issue.

I understand by losing fat that's going to be a massive aid into the conversion rate also.

If anyone would be so kind to direct me to a piece of educational information or video(s) that they believe would be beneficial, and to give me your own thoughts. That would be gladly appreciated.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

So I've come across something I'd like some input on, I've been taking Aromasin 12.5mg twice weekly to bring my spiked estrogen under control, I've also taken Nolvadex initially at 60mg now at 40mg daily. I've come across more and more information warning against the use of AI's and the risk of plummeting IGF-1 whilst taking Nolvadex.

Since I am converting such low amount of testosterone to high amounts of E2 would it more advantageous to use a DHT compound in conjunction with testosterone next time around? Instead of using AI's. Then again due to the fact I'm more prone to Gyno means I'll have to atleast have AI on hand and potentially take a SERM anyway. The reward to risk ratio for such a miniscule amount seems to be becoming an issue.

I understand by losing fat that's going to be a massive aid into the conversion rate also.

If anyone would be so kind to direct me to a piece of educational information or video(s) that they believe would be beneficial, and to give me your own thoughts. That would be gladly appreciated.

@onebaldwonder next time around sure bro you can mod the cycle add primo and some winstrol
but right now I think really dialing a test only cycle is the goal
you are taking how much tamoxifen now vs test and aromasin?
want to make sure in case you modded the dose

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Monday weigh in
Bw - 218.2lbs
Down roughly 5lbs

you're looking good leaner bro for sure and making tight gains
strong shoulders strong arms
CHEST wide

 

[onebaldwonder]

@onebaldwonder next time around sure bro you can mod the cycle add primo and some winstrol
but right now I think really dialing a test only cycle is the goal
you are taking how much tamoxifen now vs test and aromasin?
want to make sure in case you modded the dose

Currently pinning twice weekly 0.3ml Test(e)300, monday and Friday. So roughly 100mg each pin 200mg/wk, 12.5g aromasin each time i pin simply because a matter of weeks ago my E2 was at 357 and I was only on 300mg/wk.

I will be getting a blood test after this week but since I'm new to this I don't really know how fast 12.5mg of aromasin can lower 357 E2 whilst still injecting. Also tamoxifen is currently at 40mg ED to get that gyno and those estrogen sides under control, again I'm unsure if 40mg ED is too much whilst on cycle but was thinking of dropping this down to 20mg as the gyno flare up has decreased quite significantly and only other estrogenic sides I'm getting is getting emotional but then again I'm facing marital issues so I'm just attempting to keep a level head, too many variables.

 

[onebaldwonder]

you're looking good leaner bro for sure and making tight gains
strong shoulders strong arms
CHEST wide

Thank you, nice for someone to say when you don't feel or see it yourself

 

[stevesmi]

some guys react certain ways with DHT. only way to find out is to run it.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Thank you, nice for someone to say when you don't feel or see it yourself

It’s a fact you look great
Too muscle build and good frame, pumped arms shoulders @onebaldwonder

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Currently pinning twice weekly 0.3ml Test(e)300, monday and Friday. So roughly 100mg each pin 200mg/wk, 12.5g aromasin each time i pin simply because a matter of weeks ago my E2 was at 357 and I was only on 300mg/wk.

I will be getting a blood test after this week but since I'm new to this I don't really know how fast 12.5mg of aromasin can lower 357 E2 whilst still injecting. Also tamoxifen is currently at 40mg ED to get that gyno and those estrogen sides under control, again I'm unsure if 40mg ED is too much whilst on cycle but was thinking of dropping this down to 20mg as the gyno flare up has decreased quite significantly and only other estrogenic sides I'm getting is getting emotional but then again I'm facing marital issues so I'm just attempting to keep a level head, too many variables.

They gyno if the flare up is down and no lump go with 20mgs tamox

And aromas on pin days 2x is fine

But for bloods wait 2 days post aromasin dose and draw

@onebaldwonder if you don’t mind, what happened with your lady? Can you share with the EVO family

again I'm facing marital issues so I'm just attempting to keep a level head, too many variables.

 

[Mobster]

So I've come across something I'd like some input on, I've been taking Aromasin 12.5mg twice weekly to bring my spiked estrogen under control, I've also taken Nolvadex initially at 60mg now at 40mg daily. I've come across more and more information warning against the use of AI's and the risk of plummeting IGF-1 whilst taking Nolvadex.

Since I am converting such low amount of testosterone to high amounts of E2 would it more advantageous to use a DHT compound in conjunction with testosterone next time around? Instead of using AI's. Then again due to the fact I'm more prone to Gyno means I'll have to atleast have AI on hand and potentially take a SERM anyway. The reward to risk ratio for such a miniscule amount seems to be becoming an issue.

I understand by losing fat that's going to be a massive aid into the conversion rate also.

If anyone would be so kind to direct me to a piece of educational information or video(s) that they believe would be beneficial, and to give me your own thoughts. That would be gladly appreciated.

This absolutely. It's a missing factor in too many would be athletes calculations. That and drink, meds, medical conditions etc

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Thank you, nice for someone to say when you don't feel or see it yourself

You're making progress bro