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Approved Log First cycle – Second iteration - Testosterone Masteron Winstrol Anavar -vascularity for the summer Log

@haldencapital

There are a lot of guys who like to keep their estrogen elevated. I personally am not a fan of doing that, the risks of high estrogen is very complex, and a lot of things can happen that you may not be aware of.

No need to go high Estro any more than those who wanna crush it. But some is useful. It's about a ratio

@stevesmi @Mobster thank you guys for your input! Much appreciated. After my 300 gr of carbs last night, i look full this morning. It was most likely depletion. I'll get used to it. I was always depleted when I was natural so i didn't see real difference between my bulks and cuts. :D

I'll just stick with the plan and will be full and round once i'm done shedding a few pounds and start eating maintenance again.

Time for early morning cardio on the mountain bike. :cool:
 
@LevButlerov yes, food intake is down a bit. Started at 2500 calories and was still gaining weight, 2300 calories was maintenance and the only way to lose weight was to put it down to 2000-2100. Landing near 172 - 175 lbs while full would be ideal... But again, I was looking better at 183 lbs . 😅 My mind doesn't comprehend.

I mean, the only reason I brought the test down to 140mg from 200 was the 70 estrogen reading I had at the end of the bulk. The adjustment I might do will mostly be data dependent after my June 11 blood work. If I got room I will stay in the middle 140 < 175 > 200.

But again, how bad can a high estrogen be for 10-16 weeks. It might had been better staying at 200 mg a week with a high estrogen and come down after the cut. I'm gaining a lot of experience for sure. These chemicals are very complex.

Tonight I fueled up on lots of carbs. Way over maintenance calories just to see how my body will react. It might just be glycogen depletion. If that is the case, I won't worry too much. I'll be full once I've reach my desired weight.
If you can lets get more protein bars in and shakes to get the numbers up to fill you out. :D @haldencapital
 
Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak :)

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...
You are looking incredibly strong and Incredibly ripped. Nice, full muscles and hard. You have a physique that most would dream of
@haldencapital
 
Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak :)

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...
split routine looks really good. diet is 2000 calories and 235g protein which i think is on point. very nice on these #'s

@haldencapital
 
If you can lets get more protein bars in and shakes to get the numbers up to fill you out. :D @haldencapital

yep, even with no pump. Straight out of the mountain bike trails, i can see that it was just the dieting that kicked in and flattened me. I'm going to trust the process!!
 
Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak :)

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...
@haldencapital bro you feel flat ? maybe you should hit the tren. that will blow you up fast!
 
@stevesmi @Mobster thank you guys for your input! Much appreciated. After my 300 gr of carbs last night, i look full this morning. It was most likely depletion. I'll get used to it. I was always depleted when I was natural so i didn't see real difference between my bulks and cuts. :D

I'll just stick with the plan and will be full and round once i'm done shedding a few pounds and start eating maintenance again.

Time for early morning cardio on the mountain bike. :cool:
stick to your plan and let's see . we can always adjust
 
Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak :)

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...
@haldencapital You have an excellent physique. I really like what you're putting together on this.
Looking really rock hard and Vascular, that's the body. A lot of people look for
 
Weekly update.

Morning weight now down to 178 - 179 from 181 - 183.

I feel flat as hell. Honestly, by the feeling of it, i think i might have cut the testosterone too much. I was over-aromatizing at 200mg a week. Now that I'm saturated at a lower level of 140 mg a week, i look completely deflated. My bloodtest is on June 11th. I really wanted to see where my estrogen would fall at 140mg a week before doing any adjustement. 200mg was a 70 reading on estrogen. If 140mg yields below 30 i might crank it up a bit because i don't know what to expect really but i feel like i've lost a lot of size despite the weight being the around the same. I was looking very tight at 200mg a week and 70 estrogen... Like my profile picture. Now i just look flat and weak :)

Maybe I should just stop being a b*tch and run with a high estrogen level during my cycles... Am I tripping? lol First bulk and cut cycle. Lots to learn for next time.

New split :

Day 1: chest (incline BB press, flies, decline DB press), shoulders (mostly side laterals) and triceps (skullcrusher, dips). Abs
Day 2 : Legs (squats, legs extension, curls, split-squats). If leg press available, this is prioritized to save my back.
Day 3 : back (one arm DB row to grow my weaker and less develped lat, 25 lbs weighted pull-ups, v-bar row or Meadows rows (RIP John) and biceps (curls)
Day 4: rest/abs
Repeat

Mountain biking season has started. By being an ex-competitive cyclist I know that this means I will lose most of my leg muscles again this summer. I just cannot help it. No leg picture for today, i need to shave. With 2 inches of hair, there is nothing to see there lol

Diet : 2000-2100 calories as of now. With 235 gr of protein. Chicken, greek yogourt, ground beef, egg whites, whey. 35 gr of fats mostly eggs and olive oil. Rest is carbs on pre-workout meal such as oatmeal and whey.

I don't plan, unless an emergency, to work 16h a day anymore. So, caloric deficit should start now. 6 weeks late but better now than never.

Really waiting for blood levels in about 10 days to adjust the testosterone. After the results are in, i'll get the orals and start running them for the last 8 weeks. I expect most of the results to come in this 2 month time. I will keep using 300 mg of masteron a week until the end of the 8 weeks.

Pictures of this morning, no pump, no food, no filter. :/ Nothing too impressive. Crazy how the testosterone adjustment i made seemed to have killed the train from going...
bros i like this split

chest and pushing with abs
then legs
then back
then abs again. not bad. i like to hit abs a few sets a day

@haldencapital
 
yep, even with no pump. Straight out of the mountain bike trails, i can see that it was just the dieting that kicked in and flattened me. I'm going to trust the process!!
@haldencapital pump or no pump, stay it strong :D
 
@haldencapital You have an excellent physique. I really like what you're putting together on this.
Looking really rock hard and Vascular, that's the body. A lot of people look for

@Ulter thanks 👍🏻 doing my best with the little knowledge I have but more importantly, want to keep the process enjoyable. Evo family helps me a lot with guidance ❤️
bros i like this split

chest and pushing with abs
then legs
then back
then abs again. not bad. i like to hit abs a few sets a day

@haldencapital

@ceo my splits tend to be old school but I like it. And if I don't enjoy it, I won't adhere to it. Next winter I'm finding a good gym to train legs. 😁 Mine is missing a few pieces of equipment I like such as belt squat.
Looking great man! Just try to keep the estrogen in the normal range. Upper end of normal is fine but you don't want it getting above that.
@Masonic Bodybuilder thank you for your input. I'm really eager to get my blood work done next week and how the estrogen evolved after my dose adjustment 6 weeks ago. 🙏🏻
 
- Complete withdrawal of my antidepressants. This was a b1tch for the last three weeks and definitely slowed down my progress a lot. But it's for the best.
Congrats on getting off the meds. I too was on anti-depressants for 4-5 years prior to me taking up trainging again recently. Best decision i ever made to drop them. I didnt actually have any issues coming off. The focus and enjoyment brought by lifting seemingly countered any potential withdrawal issues i could have experienced.
 
Congrats on getting off the meds. I too was on anti-depressants for 4-5 years prior to me taking up trainging again recently. Best decision i ever made to drop them. I didnt actually have any issues coming off. The focus and enjoyment brought by lifting seemingly countered any potential withdrawal issues i could have experienced.

@rustle admirable, congratulations 👏🏻 getting off after such a long period is remarkable.

Same here. If I didn't have sports and weightlifting in my life when I was at my darkest moments in life, I wouldn't be able the write these lines. I'm an extremist and I resorted to bad places and substances to numb the pain. I thought I was strong but the demons in my head wouldn't let go. Lifting, even if it was sporadically during these periods, gave me hope and something to hold on to when everything around was falling apart. ❤️
 
@rustle admirable, congratulations 👏🏻 getting off after such a long period is remarkable.

Same here. If I didn't have sports and weightlifting in my life when I was at my darkest moments in life, I wouldn't be able the write these lines. I'm an extremist and I resorted to bad places and substances to numb the pain. I thought I was strong but the demons in my head wouldn't let go. Lifting, even if it was sporadically during these periods, gave me hope and something to hold on to when everything around was falling apart. ❤️
I too took to alcohol most days, not to the point of being drunk, but it'd be a few beers or wines each night. Not a healthy way to live. I have a young family and i intend on being around for a long time to support them. I need to be the best version of myself so turning to training, eating right, dropping the anti-depressants and going sober is all on the right path to getting there.

Something about being at the gym for an hour or 2 each day is just so centreing and calming. Just removes any other *noise* from your life. It's been a real game changer for me.

Congrats once again on all your achievements. You look amazing and your dedication is something you deserve to (and should) be extremely proud of!
 
I have a young family and i intend on being around for a long time to support them. I need to be the best version of myself so turning to training, eating right, dropping the anti-depressants and going sober is all on the right path to getting there.
@rustle This is it ! ☝🏻Leading by example. I encourage you to keep on that path. ⭐ I certainly am very dedicated to certain aspects of my life but am lacking severely in others. In the last two years, I didn't have the awareness you have, and my mental health and my actions took/pushed the ones I loved the most away from me. We live, we learn, we become better after every chapter. Having balance isn't always easy, but aspiring to a greater good is a goal 🎯

Blessings to you and your family. 🙏🏻

And thanks for the kind words. 🙂
 
@Ulter thanks 👍🏻 doing my best with the little knowledge I have but more importantly, want to keep the process enjoyable. Evo family helps me a lot with guidance ❤️


@ceo my splits tend to be old school but I like it. And if I don't enjoy it, I won't adhere to it. Next winter I'm finding a good gym to train legs. 😁 Mine is missing a few pieces of equipment I like such as belt squat.

@Masonic Bodybuilder thank you for your input. I'm really eager to get my blood work done next week and how the estrogen evolved after my dose adjustment 6 weeks ago. 🙏🏻
bros i like old school
 
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