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[LevButlerov]

Day 25: Been a Long Week...
Feeling a new sense of purpose​

I've settled in nicely with the Woman of Worth and things are heating up and moving into action stages. While I was not being disturuptive, apart from being so attractive the woman couldn't concentrate on their self-esteem issues or behave themselves, I was perhaps not taking it as seriously as I could have initially.

I was atcually trying to get an apprenticeship to become a welder at the fire department working on building fire engines, so I can use their shit after hours to pimp my van, and somehow ended up in a self development course for unemployed woman. But in my experience pointing out these mistakes makes them much worse so I decided to just roll with it.

Out of all the things I've changed an experimented with, and the bad training weeks I sometimes have, I have no chanced my diet much from the 20 eggs and when shakes plan I hammered out with the help of @LevButlerov over eight weeks ago. Just re-upped on eggs yesterday:

View attachment 141920

I have not eaten much else the past two weeks but did have a bit of fruit and two pots pd rice. Accidentally got wholegrain rice but I will get a 5kg sack of white rice with my remaining $10.

View attachment 141926

Supplements on track too, the @Life-Forge bottle is Ibutamoren (MK-677) I am now logging that doe Life Forge too, I wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it before saying anything. After talking to @toddthelineman about it I've upped my dose from 10mg to 20mg each night and will log more details in the near future.

View attachment 141927

I already mentioned the female Tony Robbins clone that leads the class, she's short and chubby and South African, when she was talking about small goals she said she always wanted to do 200kg on the leg press, I forget the reason but that caught my attention as last I checked I could only do 109kg on the leg press.

She even fed me a story about how woman have naturally powerful legs or some shit but I interrupted and got the conversation back to the details of this but she's a popular lady so don't yet know how long this took or what she did but I'll be hitting her up for more details.

The last week and a bit have been about finding non-traditional employment, working in the community, how you don't need permission to start doing stuff, and how looking to traditional community outlets for things can be beneficial in other areas. That's been my experience with things too.

Half the shit she said was full hippy half way through a pound of weed grade shit, she was on fire and it was awesome atcually but then she dived sharply into details and action steps and asking people what they're gonna do and stuff like that.

She talked abot building communities around interested and problems and goals, and how to divide and conquer, like instead of fretting about global warming and arguing with shills paid by Shell Corporation online, go and plant some fucking trees and pick up some rubbish. Dump it over the fence of any Shell office of outlet - I already checked and they said it's fine.

It was here I started to connect all the shit I've done through Evo to this stuff she was saying. I really feel there's a community right here, it provides a bunch of the core functions she gave as examples. Once we get taught or helped to figure things out, we can take the mentoring role for that thing and teach the next guy.

This is how 12 step groups work, you get helped through the book and the steps, and once you've done them and they solved your problem you teach he next guy who shows up all drunk and fucked up and not knowing what to do. That can work for almost anything.

I wanted to post a few days ago but two new kiwi loggers joined and I wanted to spend some time with them and turned out that took time but that's a big week for Evo NZ. One a month was good before.

Check out @antipodean who's about to try fix his health with testosterone therapy, same reason I came here. And @Joel Gibbons who has a history of addiction like me, and just got out from a two month forced vacation which he spent doing 1000 push-ups a day and is about to incorporate testosterone into his recovery too.

The demand for people needing TRT who have beem abandoned by The System is increasing in New Zeapand and the more I get into this the worse the picture is. There's a clear way I can help others laid out right in front of me and hopefully I can figure out a way to make something of it - finishing off my guide to self-trt in NZ would be a good start.

I've got the next sub section on Drugs Checking and Lab Testing nearly ready for @LevButlerov to review for me. The needle exchange part is good enough, drug testing stuff is good, I just need more stuff on sourcing now.

With testosterone I've decided to ignore the law. I'm not any kind of business and am not going to be importing any commercial quantities which would really get their attention but one vial will last 4 months at 150mg a week TRT dose which is amazing.

With a few of the people I've helped so far, needles being the problem came up a few times, that's why I wrote the needle exchange guide but even more than that the gear being questioned has come up, and guys' wives complaining about "bathtub meds" and shit. If only they could see where the shit they buy from the supermarket has been... at least the bathtub is clean so I decided to put SOME effort into this.

That would be laying out the options in NZ, testing new potential sources for Evo, testing gear for sources and end users, and doing batch testing on my source @AuStarLabs who's atcually the only source with batch numbers we currently have. Showing others how to do it. For every vial you can not only do instant on the spot testing at the exchange but now they will foot the bill for full testing. I'm waiting for the batch of orals I sent in 4 weeks ago to be done and then I will use those as an example of how to do it yourself and post it all to a tread.

I got the last questions I had answered by the lab techs this week and they confirmed for EVERY sample we can get full lab testing done if we want. I have only been sending things that don't read correctly on the smaller machine in, like testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not strong enough to read, and I got a Sustanon blend tested and test prop didn't show up but the other three esters did. So both of those vials I sent for full testing but only for completeness, I was happy with those Sustanon results as they were. I made a thread about that here.

The great thing about testing samples is I get samples to test. These are the @kiwibulk vials I got tested:

View attachment 141919

I have injected 1ml of testosterone propionate in two .5ml pins, and 1ml of the Sustanon blend, this Monday its equipoise pin day and I'll use this @kiwibulk vial as it's the only equipoise I have that tested okay and I'll log that here for @kiwibulk too.

View attachment 141922

After heating it up I did 50mg or 0.5ml:

View attachment 141923

I'm new to these 1.5" needles, look at that fucking thing!! But I'm comfortable with my glute shots now. After trying all the info from @waggat and getting sign off on the injection site being correct by @HarleyGuy I think I'm good with that spot and will be using it as part of the rotation.

But that leads me to the topic I gotta come clean on... I have failed to switch to testosterone propionate. I really really wanted to, @AuStarLabs hooked me up with their gear and the first few days the mental affects are noticeable and different, I figured since I already pin daily it should be an easy change and Monday and Tuesday were great days at my dole course, I was social and confident and felt fucking great, like content just being there and unbothered by anything, I'm sure the propionate was responsible for some, especially the day after I had the Sustanon pin as that's got prop too...

...but my body is not digging it. You wouldn't believe the health problems I'm able to ignore. I never wrote about my first OD, the one I woke up from by myself 30 hours later, but I breifly mentioned it on the podcast interview saying my arm didn't work for six months.

I woke up from the overdose and it just didn't function anymore, I could not move it at all, but could move my fingers a bit. So I used to use my left hand to pick up my right arm and place it on the table so I could line the needle up and hold it straight enough and get a finger on the plunger, but couldn't aim with it. The entire arm with needle in hand was like an automatic plunger presser. I could only press it. I also rigged up a pulley system to jerk off once on a crack bender but I'll save that for another time.

What I'm trying to say is that if it was possible for me to ignore I wouldn't even be writing this. But I have to accept my body doesn't like it.

I tried two days of half and half mix with heated enanthate, put those those in my quads and glutes which I think are the spot I'm best at as I've never had issues. I did one at 1" deep, needle fully anchored (all the way in pressed up against the skin) and one at 1.5" which I only just learnt from @HarleyGuy but have now done 6 times in glutes.

Once over the mental hurdle it was fine... one and a half inches is no joke though, you should be very sure you have the right spot!! 1.5" is how you write it I think, behold:

View attachment 141918

I never usually feel those at all but my ability to walk declined as the day went on. That injection site is usually a black hole but I can feel exactly where the depots are... not just there but in my delts too, they have three or four pins each in them and I can not only still feel them, but based on the intensity of pain, swelling, inflammation, whatever it is, I can tell which ones I did on which days. That's all the spots I know how to pin tried now.

But fuck, I've tried three different types just to make sure, and incase people tried to blame the gear they are all from different brands. Two UGL and one is a Chinese generic whitelabel type thing.

They all felt the same. I've done several small injections, full 1ml pins, half and half mixes, I've warmed it various ways, doesn't seem to change much execpt the first day I did the full ml cold in my quad, that took the longest to come on and I was so sure than was fine 8 hours later that I atcually said in my touchdown thread that I didn't get any PIP, but it caught up over night.

This shot is 50/50 with Test E, the prop went in first:

View attachment 141921

I warmed the test enanthate up ad well as the test prop

View attachment 141924

And this particular one went to my quad, but I've tried both delts, glues and this is the 2nd time I've done this quad:

View attachment 141925

I would have liked to struggle with it for a month before deciding as I do think the mental affects have been much more noticeable, it is great affect wise but I was feeling pretty good on daily test e shots too, and I don't think it's a big enough difference to want to put up with this for. I don't think I've got much to gain by doing that and I won't be able to train properly feeling like this.

So I'm gonna talk to my testosterone supplier @AuStarLabs and change back to their testosterone enanthate which I've been using since the very start and revisit test p another time . I still have a fill bottle of Test P so I could try experiment with like putting 0.1ml (10mg) of test prop in my 0.71ml daily shots and if that is not noticeable physically I think that 10mg peaking in your body in the morning might help.

Testosterone Injections are part of my morning routine, I feel better just going through the motions and knowing I have testosterone on board but that might add something extra. Most prescription Sustanon users report a sharp dip after three or four days, that's probably the prop wearing off.

I didn't go to the gym this week but have beem doing over 25k steps and doing the 5 lots of 10 push-ups throughout the day @LevButlerov suggested and it's working as good for me, I'll write more on his later but my phone is on 1% battery so I better press send before it dies.

Have a good weekend guys, I'm having a chat with @stevesmi and @Mobster tonight so gotta sort this power issue

You kept the week tight and the egg and shake plan is still working, and MK677 at 20 mg fits your nights well now. @vanlife_gymbum

You’re already helping guys EVO NZ brothers figure out TRT and testing so just keep building that guide because it’s actually helping our community.

Test prop is beating you up so switching fully back to test enanthate is the right call, and later you can try adding 0.1 ml prop to your morning pin if you tolerate it. Test prop always high PIP lol
Steps and push ups kept your base strong so you’ll slide back into the gym clean next week. Try to add more push up sets if you can. Like go for 20 push ups now see if you can do more sets.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Steps and push ups kept your base strong so you’ll slide back into the gym clean next week. Try to add more push up sets if you can. Like go for 20 push ups now see if you can do more sets.

Okay deal man! I'll get onto thar starting today. I think there's something to this and I've been trying to get everything straight in my head before brining it to you.

There was an interesting podcast episode about different counting and measurement systems used in power lifting and stuff and in one they're adding up the total weight over the whole session which I hadn't heard of bt made good sense.

Something similar to that with total reps over the whole day, techniques like what you taught me with pushups here would make it easy to hit high rep counts. I'll try incorporate the situps next week too, my mornings were too crazy this week.


But I think I'll be able to do 20 starting today! No need to complicate things until I nail that

Thanks for yor help brother it's making a big difference for me.

 

[LevButlerov]

Okay deal man! I'll get onto thar starting today. I think there's something to this and I've been trying to get everything straight in my head before brining it to you.

There was an interesting podcast episode about different counting and measurement systems used in power lifting and stuff and in one they're adding up the total weight over the whole session which I hadn't heard of bt made good sense.

Something similar to that with total reps over the whole day, techniques like what you taught me with pushups here would make it easy to hit high rep counts. I'll try incorporate the situps next week too, my mornings were too crazy this week.


But I think I'll be able to do 20 starting today! No need to complicate things until I nail that

Thanks for yor help brother it's making a big difference for me.

Start the 20 you'll see a difference even hard, finish with knee push ups if you cant do it, push it. You'll see a huge change as your push up more builds the core well @vanlife_gymbum

 

[stevesmi]

Day 25: Been a Long Week...
Feeling a new sense of purpose​

I've settled in nicely with the Woman of Worth and things are heating up and moving into action stages. While I was not being disturuptive, apart from being so attractive the woman couldn't concentrate on their self-esteem issues or behave themselves, I was perhaps not taking it as seriously as I could have initially.

I was atcually trying to get an apprenticeship to become a welder at the fire department working on building fire engines, so I can use their shit after hours to pimp my van, and somehow ended up in a self development course for unemployed woman. But in my experience pointing out these mistakes makes them much worse so I decided to just roll with it.

Out of all the things I've changed an experimented with, and the bad training weeks I sometimes have, I have no chanced my diet much from the 20 eggs and when shakes plan I hammered out with the help of @LevButlerov over eight weeks ago. Just re-upped on eggs yesterday:

View attachment 141920

I have not eaten much else the past two weeks but did have a bit of fruit and two pots pd rice. Accidentally got wholegrain rice but I will get a 5kg sack of white rice with my remaining $10.

View attachment 141926

Supplements on track too, the @Life-Forge bottle is Ibutamoren (MK-677) I am now logging that doe Life Forge too, I wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it before saying anything. After talking to @toddthelineman about it I've upped my dose from 10mg to 20mg each night and will log more details in the near future.

View attachment 141927

I already mentioned the female Tony Robbins clone that leads the class, she's short and chubby and South African, when she was talking about small goals she said she always wanted to do 200kg on the leg press, I forget the reason but that caught my attention as last I checked I could only do 109kg on the leg press.

She even fed me a story about how woman have naturally powerful legs or some shit but I interrupted and got the conversation back to the details of this but she's a popular lady so don't yet know how long this took or what she did but I'll be hitting her up for more details.

The last week and a bit have been about finding non-traditional employment, working in the community, how you don't need permission to start doing stuff, and how looking to traditional community outlets for things can be beneficial in other areas. That's been my experience with things too.

Half the shit she said was full hippy half way through a pound of weed grade shit, she was on fire and it was awesome atcually but then she dived sharply into details and action steps and asking people what they're gonna do and stuff like that.

She talked abot building communities around interested and problems and goals, and how to divide and conquer, like instead of fretting about global warming and arguing with shills paid by Shell Corporation online, go and plant some fucking trees and pick up some rubbish. Dump it over the fence of any Shell office of outlet - I already checked and they said it's fine.

It was here I started to connect all the shit I've done through Evo to this stuff she was saying. I really feel there's a community right here, it provides a bunch of the core functions she gave as examples. Once we get taught or helped to figure things out, we can take the mentoring role for that thing and teach the next guy.

This is how 12 step groups work, you get helped through the book and the steps, and once you've done them and they solved your problem you teach he next guy who shows up all drunk and fucked up and not knowing what to do. That can work for almost anything.

I wanted to post a few days ago but two new kiwi loggers joined and I wanted to spend some time with them and turned out that took time but that's a big week for Evo NZ. One a month was good before.

Check out @antipodean who's about to try fix his health with testosterone therapy, same reason I came here. And @Joel Gibbons who has a history of addiction like me, and just got out from a two month forced vacation which he spent doing 1000 push-ups a day and is about to incorporate testosterone into his recovery too.

The demand for people needing TRT who have beem abandoned by The System is increasing in New Zeapand and the more I get into this the worse the picture is. There's a clear way I can help others laid out right in front of me and hopefully I can figure out a way to make something of it - finishing off my guide to self-trt in NZ would be a good start.

I've got the next sub section on Drugs Checking and Lab Testing nearly ready for @LevButlerov to review for me. The needle exchange part is good enough, drug testing stuff is good, I just need more stuff on sourcing now.

With testosterone I've decided to ignore the law. I'm not any kind of business and am not going to be importing any commercial quantities which would really get their attention but one vial will last 4 months at 150mg a week TRT dose which is amazing.

With a few of the people I've helped so far, needles being the problem came up a few times, that's why I wrote the needle exchange guide but even more than that the gear being questioned has come up, and guys' wives complaining about "bathtub meds" and shit. If only they could see where the shit they buy from the supermarket has been... at least the bathtub is clean so I decided to put SOME effort into this.

That would be laying out the options in NZ, testing new potential sources for Evo, testing gear for sources and end users, and doing batch testing on my source @AuStarLabs who's atcually the only source with batch numbers we currently have. Showing others how to do it. For every vial you can not only do instant on the spot testing at the exchange but now they will foot the bill for full testing. I'm waiting for the batch of orals I sent in 4 weeks ago to be done and then I will use those as an example of how to do it yourself and post it all to a tread.

I got the last questions I had answered by the lab techs this week and they confirmed for EVERY sample we can get full lab testing done if we want. I have only been sending things that don't read correctly on the smaller machine in, like testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not strong enough to read, and I got a Sustanon blend tested and test prop didn't show up but the other three esters did. So both of those vials I sent for full testing but only for completeness, I was happy with those Sustanon results as they were. I made a thread about that here.

The great thing about testing samples is I get samples to test. These are the @kiwibulk vials I got tested:

View attachment 141919

I have injected 1ml of testosterone propionate in two .5ml pins, and 1ml of the Sustanon blend, this Monday its equipoise pin day and I'll use this @kiwibulk vial as it's the only equipoise I have that tested okay and I'll log that here for @kiwibulk too.

View attachment 141922

After heating it up I did 50mg or 0.5ml:

View attachment 141923

I'm new to these 1.5" needles, look at that fucking thing!! But I'm comfortable with my glute shots now. After trying all the info from @waggat and getting sign off on the injection site being correct by @HarleyGuy I think I'm good with that spot and will be using it as part of the rotation.

But that leads me to the topic I gotta come clean on... I have failed to switch to testosterone propionate. I really really wanted to, @AuStarLabs hooked me up with their gear and the first few days the mental affects are noticeable and different, I figured since I already pin daily it should be an easy change and Monday and Tuesday were great days at my dole course, I was social and confident and felt fucking great, like content just being there and unbothered by anything, I'm sure the propionate was responsible for some, especially the day after I had the Sustanon pin as that's got prop too...

...but my body is not digging it. You wouldn't believe the health problems I'm able to ignore. I never wrote about my first OD, the one I woke up from by myself 30 hours later, but I breifly mentioned it on the podcast interview saying my arm didn't work for six months.

I woke up from the overdose and it just didn't function anymore, I could not move it at all, but could move my fingers a bit. So I used to use my left hand to pick up my right arm and place it on the table so I could line the needle up and hold it straight enough and get a finger on the plunger, but couldn't aim with it. The entire arm with needle in hand was like an automatic plunger presser. I could only press it. I also rigged up a pulley system to jerk off once on a crack bender but I'll save that for another time.

What I'm trying to say is that if it was possible for me to ignore I wouldn't even be writing this. But I have to accept my body doesn't like it.

I tried two days of half and half mix with heated enanthate, put those those in my quads and glutes which I think are the spot I'm best at as I've never had issues. I did one at 1" deep, needle fully anchored (all the way in pressed up against the skin) and one at 1.5" which I only just learnt from @HarleyGuy but have now done 6 times in glutes.

Once over the mental hurdle it was fine... one and a half inches is no joke though, you should be very sure you have the right spot!! 1.5" is how you write it I think, behold:

View attachment 141918

I never usually feel those at all but my ability to walk declined as the day went on. That injection site is usually a black hole but I can feel exactly where the depots are... not just there but in my delts too, they have three or four pins each in them and I can not only still feel them, but based on the intensity of pain, swelling, inflammation, whatever it is, I can tell which ones I did on which days. That's all the spots I know how to pin tried now.

But fuck, I've tried three different types just to make sure, and incase people tried to blame the gear they are all from different brands. Two UGL and one is a Chinese generic whitelabel type thing.

They all felt the same. I've done several small injections, full 1ml pins, half and half mixes, I've warmed it various ways, doesn't seem to change much execpt the first day I did the full ml cold in my quad, that took the longest to come on and I was so sure than was fine 8 hours later that I atcually said in my touchdown thread that I didn't get any PIP, but it caught up over night.

This shot is 50/50 with Test E, the prop went in first:

View attachment 141921

I warmed the test enanthate up ad well as the test prop

View attachment 141924

And this particular one went to my quad, but I've tried both delts, glues and this is the 2nd time I've done this quad:

View attachment 141925

I would have liked to struggle with it for a month before deciding as I do think the mental affects have been much more noticeable, it is great affect wise but I was feeling pretty good on daily test e shots too, and I don't think it's a big enough difference to want to put up with this for. I don't think I've got much to gain by doing that and I won't be able to train properly feeling like this.

So I'm gonna talk to my testosterone supplier @AuStarLabs and change back to their testosterone enanthate which I've been using since the very start and revisit test p another time . I still have a fill bottle of Test P so I could try experiment with like putting 0.1ml (10mg) of test prop in my 0.71ml daily shots and if that is not noticeable physically I think that 10mg peaking in your body in the morning might help.

Testosterone Injections are part of my morning routine, I feel better just going through the motions and knowing I have testosterone on board but that might add something extra. Most prescription Sustanon users report a sharp dip after three or four days, that's probably the prop wearing off.

I didn't go to the gym this week but have beem doing over 25k steps and doing the 5 lots of 10 push-ups throughout the day @LevButlerov suggested and it's working as good for me, I'll write more on his later but my phone is on 1% battery so I better press send before it dies.

Have a good weekend guys, I'm having a chat with @stevesmi and @Mobster tonight so gotta sort this power issue

@vanlife_gymbum look forward to having you on the podcast in the morning. Want to hear some really good stories? I especially want to hear some chick stories. Even as repulsive as they may be. lol

 

[ceo]

Day 25: Been a Long Week...
Feeling a new sense of purpose​

I've settled in nicely with the Woman of Worth and things are heating up and moving into action stages. While I was not being disturuptive, apart from being so attractive the woman couldn't concentrate on their self-esteem issues or behave themselves, I was perhaps not taking it as seriously as I could have initially.

I was atcually trying to get an apprenticeship to become a welder at the fire department working on building fire engines, so I can use their shit after hours to pimp my van, and somehow ended up in a self development course for unemployed woman. But in my experience pointing out these mistakes makes them much worse so I decided to just roll with it.

Out of all the things I've changed an experimented with, and the bad training weeks I sometimes have, I have no chanced my diet much from the 20 eggs and when shakes plan I hammered out with the help of @LevButlerov over eight weeks ago. Just re-upped on eggs yesterday:

View attachment 141920

I have not eaten much else the past two weeks but did have a bit of fruit and two pots pd rice. Accidentally got wholegrain rice but I will get a 5kg sack of white rice with my remaining $10.

View attachment 141926

Supplements on track too, the @Life-Forge bottle is Ibutamoren (MK-677) I am now logging that doe Life Forge too, I wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it before saying anything. After talking to @toddthelineman about it I've upped my dose from 10mg to 20mg each night and will log more details in the near future.

View attachment 141927

I already mentioned the female Tony Robbins clone that leads the class, she's short and chubby and South African, when she was talking about small goals she said she always wanted to do 200kg on the leg press, I forget the reason but that caught my attention as last I checked I could only do 109kg on the leg press.

She even fed me a story about how woman have naturally powerful legs or some shit but I interrupted and got the conversation back to the details of this but she's a popular lady so don't yet know how long this took or what she did but I'll be hitting her up for more details.

The last week and a bit have been about finding non-traditional employment, working in the community, how you don't need permission to start doing stuff, and how looking to traditional community outlets for things can be beneficial in other areas. That's been my experience with things too.

Half the shit she said was full hippy half way through a pound of weed grade shit, she was on fire and it was awesome atcually but then she dived sharply into details and action steps and asking people what they're gonna do and stuff like that.

She talked abot building communities around interested and problems and goals, and how to divide and conquer, like instead of fretting about global warming and arguing with shills paid by Shell Corporation online, go and plant some fucking trees and pick up some rubbish. Dump it over the fence of any Shell office of outlet - I already checked and they said it's fine.

It was here I started to connect all the shit I've done through Evo to this stuff she was saying. I really feel there's a community right here, it provides a bunch of the core functions she gave as examples. Once we get taught or helped to figure things out, we can take the mentoring role for that thing and teach the next guy.

This is how 12 step groups work, you get helped through the book and the steps, and once you've done them and they solved your problem you teach he next guy who shows up all drunk and fucked up and not knowing what to do. That can work for almost anything.

I wanted to post a few days ago but two new kiwi loggers joined and I wanted to spend some time with them and turned out that took time but that's a big week for Evo NZ. One a month was good before.

Check out @antipodean who's about to try fix his health with testosterone therapy, same reason I came here. And @Joel Gibbons who has a history of addiction like me, and just got out from a two month forced vacation which he spent doing 1000 push-ups a day and is about to incorporate testosterone into his recovery too.

The demand for people needing TRT who have beem abandoned by The System is increasing in New Zeapand and the more I get into this the worse the picture is. There's a clear way I can help others laid out right in front of me and hopefully I can figure out a way to make something of it - finishing off my guide to self-trt in NZ would be a good start.

I've got the next sub section on Drugs Checking and Lab Testing nearly ready for @LevButlerov to review for me. The needle exchange part is good enough, drug testing stuff is good, I just need more stuff on sourcing now.

With testosterone I've decided to ignore the law. I'm not any kind of business and am not going to be importing any commercial quantities which would really get their attention but one vial will last 4 months at 150mg a week TRT dose which is amazing.

With a few of the people I've helped so far, needles being the problem came up a few times, that's why I wrote the needle exchange guide but even more than that the gear being questioned has come up, and guys' wives complaining about "bathtub meds" and shit. If only they could see where the shit they buy from the supermarket has been... at least the bathtub is clean so I decided to put SOME effort into this.

That would be laying out the options in NZ, testing new potential sources for Evo, testing gear for sources and end users, and doing batch testing on my source @AuStarLabs who's atcually the only source with batch numbers we currently have. Showing others how to do it. For every vial you can not only do instant on the spot testing at the exchange but now they will foot the bill for full testing. I'm waiting for the batch of orals I sent in 4 weeks ago to be done and then I will use those as an example of how to do it yourself and post it all to a tread.

I got the last questions I had answered by the lab techs this week and they confirmed for EVERY sample we can get full lab testing done if we want. I have only been sending things that don't read correctly on the smaller machine in, like testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not strong enough to read, and I got a Sustanon blend tested and test prop didn't show up but the other three esters did. So both of those vials I sent for full testing but only for completeness, I was happy with those Sustanon results as they were. I made a thread about that here.

The great thing about testing samples is I get samples to test. These are the @kiwibulk vials I got tested:

View attachment 141919

I have injected 1ml of testosterone propionate in two .5ml pins, and 1ml of the Sustanon blend, this Monday its equipoise pin day and I'll use this @kiwibulk vial as it's the only equipoise I have that tested okay and I'll log that here for @kiwibulk too.

View attachment 141922

After heating it up I did 50mg or 0.5ml:

View attachment 141923

I'm new to these 1.5" needles, look at that fucking thing!! But I'm comfortable with my glute shots now. After trying all the info from @waggat and getting sign off on the injection site being correct by @HarleyGuy I think I'm good with that spot and will be using it as part of the rotation.

But that leads me to the topic I gotta come clean on... I have failed to switch to testosterone propionate. I really really wanted to, @AuStarLabs hooked me up with their gear and the first few days the mental affects are noticeable and different, I figured since I already pin daily it should be an easy change and Monday and Tuesday were great days at my dole course, I was social and confident and felt fucking great, like content just being there and unbothered by anything, I'm sure the propionate was responsible for some, especially the day after I had the Sustanon pin as that's got prop too...

...but my body is not digging it. You wouldn't believe the health problems I'm able to ignore. I never wrote about my first OD, the one I woke up from by myself 30 hours later, but I breifly mentioned it on the podcast interview saying my arm didn't work for six months.

I woke up from the overdose and it just didn't function anymore, I could not move it at all, but could move my fingers a bit. So I used to use my left hand to pick up my right arm and place it on the table so I could line the needle up and hold it straight enough and get a finger on the plunger, but couldn't aim with it. The entire arm with needle in hand was like an automatic plunger presser. I could only press it. I also rigged up a pulley system to jerk off once on a crack bender but I'll save that for another time.

What I'm trying to say is that if it was possible for me to ignore I wouldn't even be writing this. But I have to accept my body doesn't like it.

I tried two days of half and half mix with heated enanthate, put those those in my quads and glutes which I think are the spot I'm best at as I've never had issues. I did one at 1" deep, needle fully anchored (all the way in pressed up against the skin) and one at 1.5" which I only just learnt from @HarleyGuy but have now done 6 times in glutes.

Once over the mental hurdle it was fine... one and a half inches is no joke though, you should be very sure you have the right spot!! 1.5" is how you write it I think, behold:

View attachment 141918

I never usually feel those at all but my ability to walk declined as the day went on. That injection site is usually a black hole but I can feel exactly where the depots are... not just there but in my delts too, they have three or four pins each in them and I can not only still feel them, but based on the intensity of pain, swelling, inflammation, whatever it is, I can tell which ones I did on which days. That's all the spots I know how to pin tried now.

But fuck, I've tried three different types just to make sure, and incase people tried to blame the gear they are all from different brands. Two UGL and one is a Chinese generic whitelabel type thing.

They all felt the same. I've done several small injections, full 1ml pins, half and half mixes, I've warmed it various ways, doesn't seem to change much execpt the first day I did the full ml cold in my quad, that took the longest to come on and I was so sure than was fine 8 hours later that I atcually said in my touchdown thread that I didn't get any PIP, but it caught up over night.

This shot is 50/50 with Test E, the prop went in first:

View attachment 141921

I warmed the test enanthate up ad well as the test prop

View attachment 141924

And this particular one went to my quad, but I've tried both delts, glues and this is the 2nd time I've done this quad:

View attachment 141925

I would have liked to struggle with it for a month before deciding as I do think the mental affects have been much more noticeable, it is great affect wise but I was feeling pretty good on daily test e shots too, and I don't think it's a big enough difference to want to put up with this for. I don't think I've got much to gain by doing that and I won't be able to train properly feeling like this.

So I'm gonna talk to my testosterone supplier @AuStarLabs and change back to their testosterone enanthate which I've been using since the very start and revisit test p another time . I still have a fill bottle of Test P so I could try experiment with like putting 0.1ml (10mg) of test prop in my 0.71ml daily shots and if that is not noticeable physically I think that 10mg peaking in your body in the morning might help.

Testosterone Injections are part of my morning routine, I feel better just going through the motions and knowing I have testosterone on board but that might add something extra. Most prescription Sustanon users report a sharp dip after three or four days, that's probably the prop wearing off.

I didn't go to the gym this week but have beem doing over 25k steps and doing the 5 lots of 10 push-ups throughout the day @LevButlerov suggested and it's working as good for me, I'll write more on his later but my phone is on 1% battery so I better press send before it dies.

Have a good weekend guys, I'm having a chat with @stevesmi and @Mobster tonight so gotta sort this power issue

Bros. Hell yeah. Love to see you doing the injections. And these eggs that you're doing are crazy. You've got a lot of eggs in there. @vanlife_gymbum

 

[Ulter]

Day 25: Been a Long Week...
Feeling a new sense of purpose​

I've settled in nicely with the Woman of Worth and things are heating up and moving into action stages. While I was not being disturuptive, apart from being so attractive the woman couldn't concentrate on their self-esteem issues or behave themselves, I was perhaps not taking it as seriously as I could have initially.

I was atcually trying to get an apprenticeship to become a welder at the fire department working on building fire engines, so I can use their shit after hours to pimp my van, and somehow ended up in a self development course for unemployed woman. But in my experience pointing out these mistakes makes them much worse so I decided to just roll with it.

Out of all the things I've changed an experimented with, and the bad training weeks I sometimes have, I have no chanced my diet much from the 20 eggs and when shakes plan I hammered out with the help of @LevButlerov over eight weeks ago. Just re-upped on eggs yesterday:

View attachment 141920

I have not eaten much else the past two weeks but did have a bit of fruit and two pots pd rice. Accidentally got wholegrain rice but I will get a 5kg sack of white rice with my remaining $10.

View attachment 141926

Supplements on track too, the @Life-Forge bottle is Ibutamoren (MK-677) I am now logging that doe Life Forge too, I wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it before saying anything. After talking to @toddthelineman about it I've upped my dose from 10mg to 20mg each night and will log more details in the near future.

View attachment 141927

I already mentioned the female Tony Robbins clone that leads the class, she's short and chubby and South African, when she was talking about small goals she said she always wanted to do 200kg on the leg press, I forget the reason but that caught my attention as last I checked I could only do 109kg on the leg press.

She even fed me a story about how woman have naturally powerful legs or some shit but I interrupted and got the conversation back to the details of this but she's a popular lady so don't yet know how long this took or what she did but I'll be hitting her up for more details.

The last week and a bit have been about finding non-traditional employment, working in the community, how you don't need permission to start doing stuff, and how looking to traditional community outlets for things can be beneficial in other areas. That's been my experience with things too.

Half the shit she said was full hippy half way through a pound of weed grade shit, she was on fire and it was awesome atcually but then she dived sharply into details and action steps and asking people what they're gonna do and stuff like that.

She talked abot building communities around interested and problems and goals, and how to divide and conquer, like instead of fretting about global warming and arguing with shills paid by Shell Corporation online, go and plant some fucking trees and pick up some rubbish. Dump it over the fence of any Shell office of outlet - I already checked and they said it's fine.

It was here I started to connect all the shit I've done through Evo to this stuff she was saying. I really feel there's a community right here, it provides a bunch of the core functions she gave as examples. Once we get taught or helped to figure things out, we can take the mentoring role for that thing and teach the next guy.

This is how 12 step groups work, you get helped through the book and the steps, and once you've done them and they solved your problem you teach he next guy who shows up all drunk and fucked up and not knowing what to do. That can work for almost anything.

I wanted to post a few days ago but two new kiwi loggers joined and I wanted to spend some time with them and turned out that took time but that's a big week for Evo NZ. One a month was good before.

Check out @antipodean who's about to try fix his health with testosterone therapy, same reason I came here. And @Joel Gibbons who has a history of addiction like me, and just got out from a two month forced vacation which he spent doing 1000 push-ups a day and is about to incorporate testosterone into his recovery too.

The demand for people needing TRT who have beem abandoned by The System is increasing in New Zeapand and the more I get into this the worse the picture is. There's a clear way I can help others laid out right in front of me and hopefully I can figure out a way to make something of it - finishing off my guide to self-trt in NZ would be a good start.

I've got the next sub section on Drugs Checking and Lab Testing nearly ready for @LevButlerov to review for me. The needle exchange part is good enough, drug testing stuff is good, I just need more stuff on sourcing now.

With testosterone I've decided to ignore the law. I'm not any kind of business and am not going to be importing any commercial quantities which would really get their attention but one vial will last 4 months at 150mg a week TRT dose which is amazing.

With a few of the people I've helped so far, needles being the problem came up a few times, that's why I wrote the needle exchange guide but even more than that the gear being questioned has come up, and guys' wives complaining about "bathtub meds" and shit. If only they could see where the shit they buy from the supermarket has been... at least the bathtub is clean so I decided to put SOME effort into this.

That would be laying out the options in NZ, testing new potential sources for Evo, testing gear for sources and end users, and doing batch testing on my source @AuStarLabs who's atcually the only source with batch numbers we currently have. Showing others how to do it. For every vial you can not only do instant on the spot testing at the exchange but now they will foot the bill for full testing. I'm waiting for the batch of orals I sent in 4 weeks ago to be done and then I will use those as an example of how to do it yourself and post it all to a tread.

I got the last questions I had answered by the lab techs this week and they confirmed for EVERY sample we can get full lab testing done if we want. I have only been sending things that don't read correctly on the smaller machine in, like testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not strong enough to read, and I got a Sustanon blend tested and test prop didn't show up but the other three esters did. So both of those vials I sent for full testing but only for completeness, I was happy with those Sustanon results as they were. I made a thread about that here.

The great thing about testing samples is I get samples to test. These are the @kiwibulk vials I got tested:

View attachment 141919

I have injected 1ml of testosterone propionate in two .5ml pins, and 1ml of the Sustanon blend, this Monday its equipoise pin day and I'll use this @kiwibulk vial as it's the only equipoise I have that tested okay and I'll log that here for @kiwibulk too.

View attachment 141922

After heating it up I did 50mg or 0.5ml:

View attachment 141923

I'm new to these 1.5" needles, look at that fucking thing!! But I'm comfortable with my glute shots now. After trying all the info from @waggat and getting sign off on the injection site being correct by @HarleyGuy I think I'm good with that spot and will be using it as part of the rotation.

But that leads me to the topic I gotta come clean on... I have failed to switch to testosterone propionate. I really really wanted to, @AuStarLabs hooked me up with their gear and the first few days the mental affects are noticeable and different, I figured since I already pin daily it should be an easy change and Monday and Tuesday were great days at my dole course, I was social and confident and felt fucking great, like content just being there and unbothered by anything, I'm sure the propionate was responsible for some, especially the day after I had the Sustanon pin as that's got prop too...

...but my body is not digging it. You wouldn't believe the health problems I'm able to ignore. I never wrote about my first OD, the one I woke up from by myself 30 hours later, but I breifly mentioned it on the podcast interview saying my arm didn't work for six months.

I woke up from the overdose and it just didn't function anymore, I could not move it at all, but could move my fingers a bit. So I used to use my left hand to pick up my right arm and place it on the table so I could line the needle up and hold it straight enough and get a finger on the plunger, but couldn't aim with it. The entire arm with needle in hand was like an automatic plunger presser. I could only press it. I also rigged up a pulley system to jerk off once on a crack bender but I'll save that for another time.

What I'm trying to say is that if it was possible for me to ignore I wouldn't even be writing this. But I have to accept my body doesn't like it.

I tried two days of half and half mix with heated enanthate, put those those in my quads and glutes which I think are the spot I'm best at as I've never had issues. I did one at 1" deep, needle fully anchored (all the way in pressed up against the skin) and one at 1.5" which I only just learnt from @HarleyGuy but have now done 6 times in glutes.

Once over the mental hurdle it was fine... one and a half inches is no joke though, you should be very sure you have the right spot!! 1.5" is how you write it I think, behold:

View attachment 141918

I never usually feel those at all but my ability to walk declined as the day went on. That injection site is usually a black hole but I can feel exactly where the depots are... not just there but in my delts too, they have three or four pins each in them and I can not only still feel them, but based on the intensity of pain, swelling, inflammation, whatever it is, I can tell which ones I did on which days. That's all the spots I know how to pin tried now.

But fuck, I've tried three different types just to make sure, and incase people tried to blame the gear they are all from different brands. Two UGL and one is a Chinese generic whitelabel type thing.

They all felt the same. I've done several small injections, full 1ml pins, half and half mixes, I've warmed it various ways, doesn't seem to change much execpt the first day I did the full ml cold in my quad, that took the longest to come on and I was so sure than was fine 8 hours later that I atcually said in my touchdown thread that I didn't get any PIP, but it caught up over night.

This shot is 50/50 with Test E, the prop went in first:

View attachment 141921

I warmed the test enanthate up ad well as the test prop

View attachment 141924

And this particular one went to my quad, but I've tried both delts, glues and this is the 2nd time I've done this quad:

View attachment 141925

I would have liked to struggle with it for a month before deciding as I do think the mental affects have been much more noticeable, it is great affect wise but I was feeling pretty good on daily test e shots too, and I don't think it's a big enough difference to want to put up with this for. I don't think I've got much to gain by doing that and I won't be able to train properly feeling like this.

So I'm gonna talk to my testosterone supplier @AuStarLabs and change back to their testosterone enanthate which I've been using since the very start and revisit test p another time . I still have a fill bottle of Test P so I could try experiment with like putting 0.1ml (10mg) of test prop in my 0.71ml daily shots and if that is not noticeable physically I think that 10mg peaking in your body in the morning might help.

Testosterone Injections are part of my morning routine, I feel better just going through the motions and knowing I have testosterone on board but that might add something extra. Most prescription Sustanon users report a sharp dip after three or four days, that's probably the prop wearing off.

I didn't go to the gym this week but have beem doing over 25k steps and doing the 5 lots of 10 push-ups throughout the day @LevButlerov suggested and it's working as good for me, I'll write more on his later but my phone is on 1% battery so I better press send before it dies.

Have a good weekend guys, I'm having a chat with @stevesmi and @Mobster tonight so gotta sort this power issue

I give you a lot of credit for being a nice bum. @vanlife_gymbum Using steroids as a bum is also fascinating. Seems like from your past you experimented with a lot of things.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Bros. Hell yeah. Love to see you doing the injections. And these eggs that you're doing are crazy. You've got a lot of eggs in there. @vanlife_gymbum

Yeah bro! The eggs are the secret imho. There's so much nutrition in eggs - much more than just the protien... if there was a super food they would be my pick. When I was carnivore I ate as many as I could, but there's a limit to how much you can eat, 12 iver three meals woild he the most for me, was more like six a day.

But drinking them in the shakes like this it is so easy to get 20 a day down. I'm really only limited because that's the most I can afford atm.

I just crack two or three to cover the blades and then put in the whey powder, usually use banana or vanilla flavour Optimum Nutrition Gold, costs $175 NZD for the big 2.2kg / 5lbs tubs:

Then crack two more eggs:

View from the top:

Then go! About once a week I add a banana to the shake I have two hours prior to lifting.

I do all the mixing like I showed first, and then drink a quarter of it to make some room, and then add the banana and blend it, takes like 5 seconds max to blend, it's powerful!

Blender is only 480ml which is a pain, but it's my most precious tool at the moment

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah bro! The eggs are the secret imho. There's so much nutrition in eggs - much more than just the protien... if there was a super food they would be my pick. When I was carnivore I ate as many as I could, but there's a limit to how much you can eat, 12 iver three meals woild he the most for me, was more like six a day.

But drinking them in the shakes like this it is so easy to get 20 a day down. I'm really only limited because that's the most I can afford atm.

I just crack two or three to cover the blades and then put in the whey powder, usually use banana or vanilla flavour Optimum Nutrition Gold, costs $175 NZD for the big 2.2kg / 5lbs tubs:

View attachment 142006

Then crack two more eggs:

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View from the top:

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Then go! About once a week I add a banana to the shake I have two hours prior to lifting.

I do all the mixing like I showed first, and then drink a quarter of it to make some room, and then add the banana and blend it, takes like 5 seconds max to blend, it's powerful!

Blender is only 480ml which is a pain, but it's my most precious tool at the moment

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

we call it the magic protein shake Arnold would rave about raw eggs! @vanlife_gymbum

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

we will have a spot injection site soon I promise! or I hope lol

 

[Mobster]

How awful for you... all that female attention... need a hand?

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yeah bro! The eggs are the secret imho. There's so much nutrition in eggs - much more than just the protien... if there was a super food they would be my pick. When I was carnivore I ate as many as I could, but there's a limit to how much you can eat, 12 iver three meals woild he the most for me, was more like six a day.

But drinking them in the shakes like this it is so easy to get 20 a day down. I'm really only limited because that's the most I can afford atm.

I just crack two or three to cover the blades and then put in the whey powder, usually use banana or vanilla flavour Optimum Nutrition Gold, costs $175 NZD for the big 2.2kg / 5lbs tubs:

View attachment 142006

Then crack two more eggs:

View attachment 142005

View from the top:

View attachment 142008

Then go! About once a week I add a banana to the shake I have two hours prior to lifting.

I do all the mixing like I showed first, and then drink a quarter of it to make some room, and then add the banana and blend it, takes like 5 seconds max to blend, it's powerful!

Blender is only 480ml which is a pain, but it's my most precious tool at the moment

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

@vanlife_gymbum there was a big scare in the 80's in the USA on eggs. they were saying to stay away from them cause of the cholesterol lol. but okay to eat bacon, sausage, cereal and other junkie breakfast foods. anything to help corporate america get ahead

 

[2Thick]

Yeah bro! The eggs are the secret imho. There's so much nutrition in eggs - much more than just the protien... if there was a super food they would be my pick. When I was carnivore I ate as many as I could, but there's a limit to how much you can eat, 12 iver three meals woild he the most for me, was more like six a day.

But drinking them in the shakes like this it is so easy to get 20 a day down. I'm really only limited because that's the most I can afford atm.

I just crack two or three to cover the blades and then put in the whey powder, usually use banana or vanilla flavour Optimum Nutrition Gold, costs $175 NZD for the big 2.2kg / 5lbs tubs:

View attachment 142006

Then crack two more eggs:

View attachment 142005

View from the top:

View attachment 142008

Then go! About once a week I add a banana to the shake I have two hours prior to lifting.

I do all the mixing like I showed first, and then drink a quarter of it to make some room, and then add the banana and blend it, takes like 5 seconds max to blend, it's powerful!

Blender is only 480ml which is a pain, but it's my most precious tool at the moment

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

high quality eggs are considered one of the best. but don't eat them day in and day out. take breaks, you can develop allergies if you don't take some breaks @vanlife_gymbum

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

That 1.5" needle is no joke. I do both vent glute and normal glute with a 1" 25G. I'm sure the 1.5 is fine though.

Haha man you gotta get one and have a look... I'm not queasy around needles but fuck, it's comically big.. I honestly had to work up to it mentally... but it was atcually all good, with the glutes where I hit, which I think is close to yours right ? Once I got the spot right it was okay. It's probably good to do some 1" and some 1.5" in thar spot. Apart from the prop those glute shots are usually painless

Also, awesome work you're doing getting the NZ section going and introducing others!

Re the testing, Queensland recently cancelled their drug testing. So typical of this country / government hey. Found out that as part of the free testing the were doing HPLC testing of steroids at University of Queensland.

Oh really??? Damn man that sucks. It was a bit weird there man, I went down to Victoria one time and did this intro course on becoming a needle exchange volunteer and there was tons of weird legal shit in Queensland where I was living, like with narcan and shit as well.. they just openly flout the law and give out narcan there, same in NZ it's technically prescription only but they gave it to me just as a matter of course when I joined the methadone program.

I'll see what I can find out bro, there will be another avenue for testing for sure

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

we will have a spot injection site soon I promise! or I hope lol

Nice man! That's a great idea. Ill definitely go through and try all those. Let me know if you need a model

Gonna try that lat shot today with test enanthate

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@vanlife_gymbum there was a big scare in the 80's in the USA on eggs. they were saying to stay away from them cause of the cholesterol lol. but okay to eat bacon, sausage, cereal and other junkie breakfast foods. anything to help corporate america get ahead

Yup that's it bro, and I'm sure they do all that funky washing bullshit over there so your eggs are weakened and need to be refrigerated from day 1 to make their industrial processes cheaper, not for the health of the end consumer

 

[Allupfromhere]

@vanlife_gymbum look forward to having you on the podcast in the morning. Want to hear some really good stories? I especially want to hear some chick stories. Even as repulsive as they may be. lol

Excited for this one... especially the stories

 

[Allupfromhere]

Haha man you gotta get one and have a look... I'm not queasy around needles but fuck, it's comically big.. I honestly had to work up to it mentally... but it was atcually all good, with the glutes where I hit, which I think is close to yours right ? Once I got the spot right it was okay. It's probably good to do some 1" and some 1.5" in thar spot. Apart from the prop those glute shots are usually painless

Usually painless.. one time i had run out of 25g pins. I though i had more in the cupboard but no bueno. I had already drawn up the shot with the 1.5" and said fuck it ill just use that..

My god.

Brother i felt like moby dick with a fucking harpoon in his ass. Fuck i couldnt believe the difference it made to jab hahahaha it was like slowly pressing a pointy object into a full baloon untill it pops

Bright side is that you can push the oil through pretty fucking quick lol

 

[ballin2504]

Day 25: Been a Long Week...
Feeling a new sense of purpose​

I've settled in nicely with the Woman of Worth and things are heating up and moving into action stages. While I was not being disturuptive, apart from being so attractive the woman couldn't concentrate on their self-esteem issues or behave themselves, I was perhaps not taking it as seriously as I could have initially.

I was atcually trying to get an apprenticeship to become a welder at the fire department working on building fire engines, so I can use their shit after hours to pimp my van, and somehow ended up in a self development course for unemployed woman. But in my experience pointing out these mistakes makes them much worse so I decided to just roll with it.

Out of all the things I've changed an experimented with, and the bad training weeks I sometimes have, I have no chanced my diet much from the 20 eggs and when shakes plan I hammered out with the help of @LevButlerov over eight weeks ago. Just re-upped on eggs yesterday:

View attachment 141920

I have not eaten much else the past two weeks but did have a bit of fruit and two pots pd rice. Accidentally got wholegrain rice but I will get a 5kg sack of white rice with my remaining $10.

View attachment 141926

Supplements on track too, the @Life-Forge bottle is Ibutamoren (MK-677) I am now logging that doe Life Forge too, I wanted to make sure I was going to stick with it before saying anything. After talking to @toddthelineman about it I've upped my dose from 10mg to 20mg each night and will log more details in the near future.

View attachment 141927

I already mentioned the female Tony Robbins clone that leads the class, she's short and chubby and South African, when she was talking about small goals she said she always wanted to do 200kg on the leg press, I forget the reason but that caught my attention as last I checked I could only do 109kg on the leg press.

She even fed me a story about how woman have naturally powerful legs or some shit but I interrupted and got the conversation back to the details of this but she's a popular lady so don't yet know how long this took or what she did but I'll be hitting her up for more details.

The last week and a bit have been about finding non-traditional employment, working in the community, how you don't need permission to start doing stuff, and how looking to traditional community outlets for things can be beneficial in other areas. That's been my experience with things too.

Half the shit she said was full hippy half way through a pound of weed grade shit, she was on fire and it was awesome atcually but then she dived sharply into details and action steps and asking people what they're gonna do and stuff like that.

She talked abot building communities around interested and problems and goals, and how to divide and conquer, like instead of fretting about global warming and arguing with shills paid by Shell Corporation online, go and plant some fucking trees and pick up some rubbish. Dump it over the fence of any Shell office of outlet - I already checked and they said it's fine.

It was here I started to connect all the shit I've done through Evo to this stuff she was saying. I really feel there's a community right here, it provides a bunch of the core functions she gave as examples. Once we get taught or helped to figure things out, we can take the mentoring role for that thing and teach the next guy.

This is how 12 step groups work, you get helped through the book and the steps, and once you've done them and they solved your problem you teach he next guy who shows up all drunk and fucked up and not knowing what to do. That can work for almost anything.

I wanted to post a few days ago but two new kiwi loggers joined and I wanted to spend some time with them and turned out that took time but that's a big week for Evo NZ. One a month was good before.

Check out @antipodean who's about to try fix his health with testosterone therapy, same reason I came here. And @Joel Gibbons who has a history of addiction like me, and just got out from a two month forced vacation which he spent doing 1000 push-ups a day and is about to incorporate testosterone into his recovery too.

The demand for people needing TRT who have beem abandoned by The System is increasing in New Zeapand and the more I get into this the worse the picture is. There's a clear way I can help others laid out right in front of me and hopefully I can figure out a way to make something of it - finishing off my guide to self-trt in NZ would be a good start.

I've got the next sub section on Drugs Checking and Lab Testing nearly ready for @LevButlerov to review for me. The needle exchange part is good enough, drug testing stuff is good, I just need more stuff on sourcing now.

With testosterone I've decided to ignore the law. I'm not any kind of business and am not going to be importing any commercial quantities which would really get their attention but one vial will last 4 months at 150mg a week TRT dose which is amazing.

With a few of the people I've helped so far, needles being the problem came up a few times, that's why I wrote the needle exchange guide but even more than that the gear being questioned has come up, and guys' wives complaining about "bathtub meds" and shit. If only they could see where the shit they buy from the supermarket has been... at least the bathtub is clean so I decided to put SOME effort into this.

That would be laying out the options in NZ, testing new potential sources for Evo, testing gear for sources and end users, and doing batch testing on my source @AuStarLabs who's atcually the only source with batch numbers we currently have. Showing others how to do it. For every vial you can not only do instant on the spot testing at the exchange but now they will foot the bill for full testing. I'm waiting for the batch of orals I sent in 4 weeks ago to be done and then I will use those as an example of how to do it yourself and post it all to a tread.

I got the last questions I had answered by the lab techs this week and they confirmed for EVERY sample we can get full lab testing done if we want. I have only been sending things that don't read correctly on the smaller machine in, like testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not strong enough to read, and I got a Sustanon blend tested and test prop didn't show up but the other three esters did. So both of those vials I sent for full testing but only for completeness, I was happy with those Sustanon results as they were. I made a thread about that here.

The great thing about testing samples is I get samples to test. These are the @kiwibulk vials I got tested:

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I have injected 1ml of testosterone propionate in two .5ml pins, and 1ml of the Sustanon blend, this Monday its equipoise pin day and I'll use this @kiwibulk vial as it's the only equipoise I have that tested okay and I'll log that here for @kiwibulk too.

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After heating it up I did 50mg or 0.5ml:

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I'm new to these 1.5" needles, look at that fucking thing!! But I'm comfortable with my glute shots now. After trying all the info from @waggat and getting sign off on the injection site being correct by @HarleyGuy I think I'm good with that spot and will be using it as part of the rotation.

But that leads me to the topic I gotta come clean on... I have failed to switch to testosterone propionate. I really really wanted to, @AuStarLabs hooked me up with their gear and the first few days the mental affects are noticeable and different, I figured since I already pin daily it should be an easy change and Monday and Tuesday were great days at my dole course, I was social and confident and felt fucking great, like content just being there and unbothered by anything, I'm sure the propionate was responsible for some, especially the day after I had the Sustanon pin as that's got prop too...

...but my body is not digging it. You wouldn't believe the health problems I'm able to ignore. I never wrote about my first OD, the one I woke up from by myself 30 hours later, but I breifly mentioned it on the podcast interview saying my arm didn't work for six months.

I woke up from the overdose and it just didn't function anymore, I could not move it at all, but could move my fingers a bit. So I used to use my left hand to pick up my right arm and place it on the table so I could line the needle up and hold it straight enough and get a finger on the plunger, but couldn't aim with it. The entire arm with needle in hand was like an automatic plunger presser. I could only press it. I also rigged up a pulley system to jerk off once on a crack bender but I'll save that for another time.

What I'm trying to say is that if it was possible for me to ignore I wouldn't even be writing this. But I have to accept my body doesn't like it.

I tried two days of half and half mix with heated enanthate, put those those in my quads and glutes which I think are the spot I'm best at as I've never had issues. I did one at 1" deep, needle fully anchored (all the way in pressed up against the skin) and one at 1.5" which I only just learnt from @HarleyGuy but have now done 6 times in glutes.

Once over the mental hurdle it was fine... one and a half inches is no joke though, you should be very sure you have the right spot!! 1.5" is how you write it I think, behold:

View attachment 141918

I never usually feel those at all but my ability to walk declined as the day went on. That injection site is usually a black hole but I can feel exactly where the depots are... not just there but in my delts too, they have three or four pins each in them and I can not only still feel them, but based on the intensity of pain, swelling, inflammation, whatever it is, I can tell which ones I did on which days. That's all the spots I know how to pin tried now.

But fuck, I've tried three different types just to make sure, and incase people tried to blame the gear they are all from different brands. Two UGL and one is a Chinese generic whitelabel type thing.

They all felt the same. I've done several small injections, full 1ml pins, half and half mixes, I've warmed it various ways, doesn't seem to change much execpt the first day I did the full ml cold in my quad, that took the longest to come on and I was so sure than was fine 8 hours later that I atcually said in my touchdown thread that I didn't get any PIP, but it caught up over night.

This shot is 50/50 with Test E, the prop went in first:

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I warmed the test enanthate up ad well as the test prop

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And this particular one went to my quad, but I've tried both delts, glues and this is the 2nd time I've done this quad:

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I would have liked to struggle with it for a month before deciding as I do think the mental affects have been much more noticeable, it is great affect wise but I was feeling pretty good on daily test e shots too, and I don't think it's a big enough difference to want to put up with this for. I don't think I've got much to gain by doing that and I won't be able to train properly feeling like this.

So I'm gonna talk to my testosterone supplier @AuStarLabs and change back to their testosterone enanthate which I've been using since the very start and revisit test p another time . I still have a fill bottle of Test P so I could try experiment with like putting 0.1ml (10mg) of test prop in my 0.71ml daily shots and if that is not noticeable physically I think that 10mg peaking in your body in the morning might help.

Testosterone Injections are part of my morning routine, I feel better just going through the motions and knowing I have testosterone on board but that might add something extra. Most prescription Sustanon users report a sharp dip after three or four days, that's probably the prop wearing off.

I didn't go to the gym this week but have beem doing over 25k steps and doing the 5 lots of 10 push-ups throughout the day @LevButlerov suggested and it's working as good for me, I'll write more on his later but my phone is on 1% battery so I better press send before it dies.

Have a good weekend guys, I'm having a chat with @stevesmi and @Mobster tonight so gotta sort this power issue

@vanlife_gymbum I can’t use an inch and a half anymore. They’re way too big for me. 25 gauge 1 inches to the max I go that’s weird that you can tell each injection by the soreness and that it’s lasting that long.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@vanlife_gymbum I can’t use an inch and a half anymore. They’re way too big for me. 25 gauge 1 inches to the max I go that’s weird that you can tell each injection by the soreness and that it’s lasting that long.

Only with the prop pins, I can feel them leaving now so I think three days would be the clearance time for me. I'm kinda disappointed atcually, the mental affects were more noticeable and since I prefer daily pins anyway that seemed like a win.

But after a few weeks I'll try from the other end of the scale, and try get 0.1ml or prop in and see where the line is. I did 0.5ml and it was the same as a full, so hopefully at least 10mg. With the way the enanthate easters are working in my body and there's a new load every 24 hours I think having some of my dose being propionate would be good too... might even work better than one or the other.. lots of people love Sustanon for similar reasons from what I can tell.

But I don't blame you about the 1.5" !! It's comically big when you first encounter it, doesn't even seem possible... but now I can do the glutes, top right quadrant, I'm sure I've got the spot down now and having some go in deeper in that spot in particular is good in theory in my mind, and seems to be working out.. no soreness from the needle itself there like I sometimes get on my side quad.

 

[LevButlerov]

Nice man! That's a great idea. Ill definitely go through and try all those. Let me know if you need a model

Gonna try that lat shot today with test enanthate

I'm at fault on it I'm supposed to do a write up for each page and havent I feel bad @vanlife_gymbum

 

[stevesmi]

Excited for this one... especially the stories

yeah it was good as always. always a funny guy!

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yup that's it bro, and I'm sure they do all that funky washing bullshit over there so your eggs are weakened and need to be refrigerated from day 1 to make their industrial processes cheaper, not for the health of the end consumer

yeah true!

 

[ceo]

Yeah bro! The eggs are the secret imho. There's so much nutrition in eggs - much more than just the protien... if there was a super food they would be my pick. When I was carnivore I ate as many as I could, but there's a limit to how much you can eat, 12 iver three meals woild he the most for me, was more like six a day.

But drinking them in the shakes like this it is so easy to get 20 a day down. I'm really only limited because that's the most I can afford atm.

I just crack two or three to cover the blades and then put in the whey powder, usually use banana or vanilla flavour Optimum Nutrition Gold, costs $175 NZD for the big 2.2kg / 5lbs tubs:

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Then crack two more eggs:

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View from the top:

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Then go! About once a week I add a banana to the shake I have two hours prior to lifting.

I do all the mixing like I showed first, and then drink a quarter of it to make some room, and then add the banana and blend it, takes like 5 seconds max to blend, it's powerful!

Blender is only 480ml which is a pain, but it's my most precious tool at the moment

And about the pin pics - any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

bros you love your eggs hell yeah!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Day 28: Equipoise & Testosterone
EQ Pin #5 - First Month Complete
​

Today is four whole weeks since I started my equipoise & testosterone cycle. Initially I was also taking 40mg of turinabol and 25mg of proviron but haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

I had all three tested at the needle exchange last week. The test prop and Sustanon are also getting full lab testing as the prop isn't high enough concentration to be read by Hannah:

But the three other esters read fine in the Sustanon blend and that's the stuff I injected 175mg of.

The equipoise read no problem and results were all good, Boldenone Undecylenate only detected, no other compounds, heavy metals or other contaminates.

So I'm now using and logging equipoise for @kiwibulk to evaluate his gear for other kiwi Evo brothers interested in equipoise.

Gonna use a 3ml barrel and put equipoise and testosterone in the same pin. Talking back and forth with @LevButlerov when I was trying to switch to testosterone propionate he suggested I warm the oil every time, not just when it was crashed.

I somehow missed these instructions early on and was only warming it when the oil crashed which stopped happening after winter. But I was foolish, this is definitely the way to go:

Pulled the equipoise first:

1.5ml should be 300mg:

Then pulled in 1ml of testosterone enanthate:

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

 

[SPOONMAN366]

any injection spots you recommend that I don't know? Or any you think I should try learn?

Bro!!
I hit lats this morning
I was thinking of you as I was for some reason
It was so
New rotation for sure my g

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Bro!!
I hit lats this morning
I was thinking of you as I was for some reason
It was so
New rotation for sure my g

Haha awesome bro! I've been procrastinating about it but I'll do it when I get back from the gym! are you gonna try the opposite lat next?

I definitely need more spots, be good to hit no more than once a week but not really possible currently with the spots I know, need maybe three more.

The ventral glute sounds good, I just need to locate it for sure. One source said he shoots 7ml a time in them !!

 

[SPOONMAN366]

are you gonna try the opposite lat next?

bro
Im breaking my mast and test into two separate 1ml insulins now so pin day involves two pins
Gunna do opposites glute+lat each pin day
I feel like you would be proud each time I get it ready for some reason haha

 

[SPOONMAN366]

7ml a time in them

That is diabolical
Here is am freaking over my .7ml

 

[trentwin1]

Day 28: Equipoise & Testosterone
EQ Pin #5 - First Month Complete
​

Today is four whole weeks since I started my equipoise & testosterone cycle. Initially I was also taking 40mg of turinabol and 25mg of proviron but haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

View attachment 142720

I had all three tested at the needle exchange last week. The test prop and Sustanon are also getting full lab testing as the prop isn't high enough concentration to be read by Hannah:

View attachment 142718

But the three other esters read fine in the Sustanon blend and that's the stuff I injected 175mg of.

The equipoise read no problem and results were all good, Boldenone Undecylenate only detected, no other compounds, heavy metals or other contaminates.

So I'm now using and logging equipoise for @kiwibulk to evaluate his gear for other kiwi Evo brothers interested in equipoise.

View attachment 142727

Gonna use a 3ml barrel and put equipoise and testosterone in the same pin. Talking back and forth with @LevButlerov when I was trying to switch to testosterone propionate he suggested I warm the oil every time, not just when it was crashed.

I somehow missed these instructions early on and was only warming it when the oil crashed which stopped happening after winter. But I was foolish, this is definitely the way to go:

View attachment 142728

Pulled the equipoise first:

View attachment 142753

1.5ml should be 300mg:

View attachment 142754

Then pulled in 1ml of testosterone enanthate:

View attachment 142755

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

View attachment 142756

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

View attachment 142760

Awesome to hear you are doing better bro! Glad tou cleared everything up seems like cutting off the orals went well. Jeez that test is creeping up there, did you take 500mg and sustanon on top in one week! How you feeling with that?

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 28: Equipoise & Testosterone
EQ Pin #5 - First Month Complete
​

Today is four whole weeks since I started my equipoise & testosterone cycle. Initially I was also taking 40mg of turinabol and 25mg of proviron but haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

View attachment 142720

I had all three tested at the needle exchange last week. The test prop and Sustanon are also getting full lab testing as the prop isn't high enough concentration to be read by Hannah:

View attachment 142718

But the three other esters read fine in the Sustanon blend and that's the stuff I injected 175mg of.

The equipoise read no problem and results were all good, Boldenone Undecylenate only detected, no other compounds, heavy metals or other contaminates.

So I'm now using and logging equipoise for @kiwibulk to evaluate his gear for other kiwi Evo brothers interested in equipoise.

View attachment 142727

Gonna use a 3ml barrel and put equipoise and testosterone in the same pin. Talking back and forth with @LevButlerov when I was trying to switch to testosterone propionate he suggested I warm the oil every time, not just when it was crashed.

I somehow missed these instructions early on and was only warming it when the oil crashed which stopped happening after winter. But I was foolish, this is definitely the way to go:

View attachment 142728

Pulled the equipoise first:

View attachment 142753

1.5ml should be 300mg:

View attachment 142754

Then pulled in 1ml of testosterone enanthate:

View attachment 142755

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

View attachment 142756

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

View attachment 142760

haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

Good update @vanlife_gymbum and dropping the tbol was the right call because the side effects cleared and now you can actually feel what the testosterone esters are doing
Staying off orals early keeps the cycle clean and if you want to add an oral later Anadrol will hit way harder than anavar once your base is stable. Sorting out the test and EQ ratio makes sense! you have to keep ratios clean too
ditching that dodgy source was smart so keep your dosing consistent now and let the new gear do its job.

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

Good you learned a lot from the test prop run even with the PIP because now you know how your body reacts and how to chang up your rotation and pick safer spots
The plan to ease back in with 0.1 ml added to your enanthate sense

just get the van sorted, is it possible to get it running?

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

Delts can take 1 to 1.5 ml max so 2.5 ml was pushing it
Keep the big shots for glutes or quads and keep delts for the smaller pins
but if you add arms you can do all imo

That bacon and egg sandwich hitting hard is normal after days of shakes, it's maximum flavor I bet

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP

 

[HarleyGuy]

Day 28: Equipoise & Testosterone
EQ Pin #5 - First Month Complete
​

Today is four whole weeks since I started my equipoise & testosterone cycle. Initially I was also taking 40mg of turinabol and 25mg of proviron but haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

View attachment 142720

I had all three tested at the needle exchange last week. The test prop and Sustanon are also getting full lab testing as the prop isn't high enough concentration to be read by Hannah:

View attachment 142718

But the three other esters read fine in the Sustanon blend and that's the stuff I injected 175mg of.

The equipoise read no problem and results were all good, Boldenone Undecylenate only detected, no other compounds, heavy metals or other contaminates.

So I'm now using and logging equipoise for @kiwibulk to evaluate his gear for other kiwi Evo brothers interested in equipoise.

View attachment 142727

Gonna use a 3ml barrel and put equipoise and testosterone in the same pin. Talking back and forth with @LevButlerov when I was trying to switch to testosterone propionate he suggested I warm the oil every time, not just when it was crashed.

I somehow missed these instructions early on and was only warming it when the oil crashed which stopped happening after winter. But I was foolish, this is definitely the way to go:

View attachment 142728

Pulled the equipoise first:

View attachment 142753

1.5ml should be 300mg:

View attachment 142754

Then pulled in 1ml of testosterone enanthate:

View attachment 142755

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

View attachment 142756

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

View attachment 142760

I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Bro I love anadrol! You don't need much at all and you get to have 4 weeks almost for free of looking like a super jacked rugby player

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Yes.... 1.5ml max for delts. If you have more just switch to the other delt mid-pin.

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Smart move. Your glute and ventro can take ml's and ml's LOL.

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

Prop hits fast, it's half life is a millisecond compared to TestE lol. That's why you like it. I used to make my own Sust blend with Prop and E. Also, I never had PIP on anything except GHK-Cu peptide, what was yours like on Prop?

That sucks that your van is fucked. What's the prognosis on that?

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Bro!!
I hit lats this morning
I was thinking of you as I was for some reason

Haha I'm inspired bro! Did the lat shot when I got home so I have slightly more time to screw around on my phone

DM me a pic sometime bro!

It was so
New rotation for sure my g

I liked it too man, aches a little bit today but probably have to work on the angle, I wasent quite sure where to go.. and I just kinda winged it, I mean I'm pretty sure I know where the lats are haha

I can put my hands behind my back and one over one under, forget what that's called but basically got my left arm up and way down my back so the lat was tight and felt around a bit, felt like there was quite a lot of surface room to choose from and I angled thr 5/8 tip kinda 45 degrees and just darted it in, and slid the rest in, probably two seconds to get in, then I felt I had quite a lot of control with holding the barrel straight and pushing the plunger slowly.

I atcually used Sustanon because I knew the prop would hurt a bit and I'd get an idea where it is in the lat, not sure if that's what's aching now but it felt alright last night, I was pretty pleased with how it went

I'll try the other lat tomorrow, I did it at night and needed my phone light for a touch so couldn't get a photo this time.

That's a good one bro!!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Awesome to hear you are doing better bro! Glad tou cleared everything up seems like cutting off the orals went well.

Jeez that test is creeping up there, did you take 500mg and sustanon on top in one week! How you feeling with that?

Slowly creeping up - 100mg a month. When things are stable I'm pretty consistent, but when I get new testosterone like this Sustanon I often jump ahead of my schedule but then skip a day to make up for it. Not often would I be out of the 500mg a week I've been doing for the past month and I really want to keep that eq ratio.

Yesterday I had 250mg of enanthate and 0.9ml of Sustanon, probably 230ish, and tomorrow I'll probably do half that in my right lat for practice and another half shot on the weekend sometime and that'll be 600mg total.

Some people are super sensitive to testosterone to equipoise ratios and and 2:1 looked like q good ratio to try so I'm pretty interested in how I react to it. Since it's a 16 week cycle with the eq I can really only do that once a year so want to make the most of it

How are your plans tracking bro? I'm going to pick up the oral suspension anadrol this afternoon, I'll take it for testing tomorrow

 

[waggat]

Haha awesome bro! I've been procrastinating about it but I'll do it when I get back from the gym! are you gonna try the opposite lat next?

I definitely need more spots, be good to hit no more than once a week but not really possible currently with the spots I know, need maybe three more.

The ventral glute sounds good, I just need to locate it for sure. One source said he shoots 7ml a time in them !!

I've used VG, normal gluten and delt. VG is the only spot so far for me that doesn't result in a bruised type feeling.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Bro I love anadrol! You don't need much at all and you get to have 4 weeks almost for free of looking like a super jacked rugby player

Yes.... 1.5ml max for delts. If you have more just switch to the other delt mid-pin.

Haha that didn't occur to me! I'll do that next time for sure.

I did the test prop experiment while you were away, here's my entry about my first pin but I'm sure I spent the whole week talking about this but struggling to find more.

I started with quad day 1, glute 2, then moved to delts and rotated back and forth, doing 0.71ml every morning and PIP isn't the term I'd use, my body was rejecting them. It wasn't my technique, the first pin was so smooth I announced six hours later that I got no PIP, then I couldn't walk properly the next day, like a full 50% reduction in speed.

And they'd sit there. I could feel every shot and know where it was and how many days ago I did it. I'm pretty good at ignoring pain and problems in general but fuck... and also I was enjoying the mental affects of the prop, I mean I love enanthate too but I really felt it was different.

One suggestion of yours I did nail while you were away too was the one and a half inch needle...

So big it doesn't even fit in the frame haha. I really thought it was a prop when I first saw it.. but now it's all good, I've done at least 8, all in thr glute or potentially I did the quad too but I was not sure on that one, but confident with the glute now.

I think it'll be good to add this to the rotation too, like one time I use a 1" and next time 1.5" so the depots will he a half inch apart - that seems worthwhile.

Prop hits fast, it's half life is a millisecond compared to TestE lol. That's why you like it. I used to make my own Sust blend with Prop and E. Also, I never had PIP on anything except GHK-Cu peptide, what was yours like on

That's cool man!! I'd love to do stuff like that, even just mixing already made bottles into blends. I've decided for testosterone I'm gonna try importing it a vial at a time, hard to argue that's not personal use, but some touchdown pics of see with like 15 vials would probably cause alarm. I've had like a years worth a benzos seized and they only sent me a letter and testosterone is not in that class at all.

But that would allow me to start using big brands like Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Beligas and all those big places with certificates of analysis for batches and purity testing and shit, have that stuff for TRT in the future and to write up the method for others. Beem talking to quite a few guys lately who have concerns (wife nagging) about gear quality so just for TRT-only guys I think that'd be better.

I use a UGL @AuStarLabs who've recently joined Evo and I'm very happy with them but having some more options for those kinda guys would be good.

One of those guys atcually told me they were using GHK-Cu to tighted their loose skin after weight loss.. have you heard of that? This is one of the ones that was in the GLOW stack you started out with right ? Sounds intriguing

I'll answer the other stuff tonight - have a good day bro, good to have you back!

 

[Dreamer]

Day 28: Equipoise & Testosterone
EQ Pin #5 - First Month Complete
​

Today is four whole weeks since I started my equipoise & testosterone cycle. Initially I was also taking 40mg of turinabol and 25mg of proviron but haven't noticed any affects from the turinabol and tgot some side effects and took the advice I got from Evo brothers to stop the orals for now - that was a couple of weeks ago now and I think things have cleared.

I think I got a bit too excited about trying everything, and wanted a short oral run at the start using Turinabol, and at the end using Anavar. I'm glad I dropped the orals at the start and also recommend others on their first cycle to too, as it complicates things, it's harder to tell what is doing what.

Without all that noise, I could feel the different testosterone esters I was experimenting with the past few weeks. I'm still interested in adding orals at the end of this cycle but think I'd rather use Anadrol than Anavar this time. I'm still thinking about it and listening to podcast episodes and reading Anadrol logs on Evo.

Last week I had 175mg of Sustanon in addition to the 500mg of test prop, but also missed a day of test pins and haven't calculated it all up yet, I probably need to have a reduced pin one day but not sure.

I need to redo some calculations and update my notes and cheatsheets to account for dropping the orals and switching between prop and enanthate this past week or two.

I have been increasing my testosterone dose by 100mg each month but wasn't sure what I was going to do this month as I was using eq amplues that were 250mg.

I didn't want to stop increasing testosterone but also want to keep the 2:1 ratio with test and eq.

I find that subject very fascinating, especially the pattern of opposite results with estrogen for Australians and Americans that was revealed on Evo.

Check out the awesome eq ratios community research thread. Hopefully I can add some useful data.

But the problem solved itself as the source of the amplues, same source as the turinabol and proviron presses I had was found to be dodgy as fuck and I'm not injecting anything further I got from him.

Got some cool stuff in the mail last week too, including these three samples from @kiwibulk

View attachment 142720

I had all three tested at the needle exchange last week. The test prop and Sustanon are also getting full lab testing as the prop isn't high enough concentration to be read by Hannah:

View attachment 142718

But the three other esters read fine in the Sustanon blend and that's the stuff I injected 175mg of.

The equipoise read no problem and results were all good, Boldenone Undecylenate only detected, no other compounds, heavy metals or other contaminates.

So I'm now using and logging equipoise for @kiwibulk to evaluate his gear for other kiwi Evo brothers interested in equipoise.

View attachment 142727

Gonna use a 3ml barrel and put equipoise and testosterone in the same pin. Talking back and forth with @LevButlerov when I was trying to switch to testosterone propionate he suggested I warm the oil every time, not just when it was crashed.

I somehow missed these instructions early on and was only warming it when the oil crashed which stopped happening after winter. But I was foolish, this is definitely the way to go:

View attachment 142728

Pulled the equipoise first:

View attachment 142753

1.5ml should be 300mg:

View attachment 142754

Then pulled in 1ml of testosterone enanthate:

View attachment 142755

I'll calculate everything up tonight. Been staying outside a mechanic shop as my van is fucked, I realised this when I got out of the needle exchange on Willis St, which is one of the main streets of the Wellington CBD.

Willis Street turns into a clear-way at rush hour so I couldn't just ignore it like I usually would, and I got my entire van winched onto a tow truck and driven to the mechanics over my side of town... sorta.

It's now a 40 minute walk to the gym.

I'm over the PIP from the test prop experiment and I learnt a lot of lessons I wouldn't have otherwise learnt so quickly. It really made me think about how I'm doing all this and mistakes I make and how I can improve, and my rotation schedule is going to be tighter thanks to that.

I was also not great with my delts but after talking with @AuStarLabs and hearing his experiences I am going to use them more regularly and agree with him I'd rather scar up a delt than a quad. Would also rather be down my non-wanking arm than either leg

I'm a bit disappointed tho, the test prop is good.

Really good atcually.

I want it believe me.

I'm going to give it a week then try add 0.1ml of propionate to my testosterone enanthate pins.

And experiment with the Sustanon too.

I might be able to find a happy middle ground.

I really liked it, the mental effects were so noticeable - pining in the morning before I left was a great routine, by the time I'd walked to the pharmacy, had my methadone dose and got to my dole course on the other side of town I could atcually feel it, or notice the difference maybe a better way to put it.

I'd be in a good mood, confident and social... motivated, ready, I dunno, it made me feel whole.

Not saying enanthate doesn't or anything, but it was different and seemed to be all in the day, not just pushing the plunger and forgetting about it until another day.

I also dose methadone every 24 hours to keep my serum levels within the "therapeutic range", which is atcually a legal thing, it was verified by peak and trough test, and is how I have a driving exemption. If I missed doses and fell out of range, the doctor can suspend my drivers license...

This PIP with test prop doesn't happen to everyone, I think it's worth trying to see if you can take it.

I've been using my glutes the past few days to give my shoulders a rest but returned to them today:

View attachment 142756

I was only thinking about the needle length and where I can put it, didn't think that the delt probably isn't the best pick for 2.5ml, most my shots are 0.7ml or smaller and since I generally seperate the two and use two needles I didn't think of it.

But it took the 2.5ml anyway... next time I think I might make 1.5ml the max for delts - any advice on this?

Moving to the one shot is good but I'll do glutes or quads with the 2.5ml shot next time.

Since the mechanic has my keys I've been roaming the streets and for once got really hungry and couldn't ignore it... apart from rice the other day I've eaten nothing but the eggs in my shakes but today I ate this bacon and egg sandwich and it was good as fuck... feel kinda odd now tho, odd but good...

View attachment 142760

2.5ml in the delt hollllly haha, my glutes feel like their exploding with 1ml, your a beast haha, those eggs are cooked to perfection too

 

[flatlyne]

Hi vanlife - I tried to DM you, but I think I'm too new to the forum to send DMs. I kind of identify a bit with your history and am a kiwi as well. Had some newbie questions for you if you don't mind. I wonder if I could DM you if you initiated the thread? If you don't have time, I understand

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Hi vanlife - I tried to DM you, but I think I'm too new to the forum to send DMs. I kind of identify a bit with your history and am a kiwi as well. Had some newbie questions for you if you don't mind. I wonder if I could DM you if you initiated the thread? If you don't have time, I understand

Nah mate I have time and I'm happy to talk - I'll try send you a DM, one sec.

Thanks for the prod @LevButlerov

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Day 31: Lots of Gear to Show!!!
and finally fucking friday​

Got a bunch of sweet steriods, supplements and other cool stuff in the mail from from Need to Build Muscle, @Life-Forge and @kiwibulk

I had lots of sweet stuff waiting for me at the PO Box this week, including n2guard from Need to Build Muscle all the way from the USA!

I've got a bit of forum work ahead of me taking nice photos and making touchdown threads for each of these but thought I'd share a bit of my haul since they don't happen very often.

I was worried about this one, I'm sure many of my Australian and Kiwi Evo brothers know the feeling but getting stuff from America is often difficult as well as expensive, so I wanted you all to know that the n2guard arrived safe and sound all the way from the USA where it was made.

It was sent via USPS who handed it to NZ Post for the "last mile" - so the whole journey was using national postal carriers on both ends, the tracking worked the whole way and there was no problems in the end. And all that time the n2bm rep and Evo logger @RoySimpson was available to help me with any issues and sorted the post details out for me which worked out great!

So if you're in NZ or Australia and have been holding off due to worrying about cost and postage then rest assured that it'll arrive.

I'm so used to supplements being a scam that these guys at n2bm surprise me all the time. One thing I hate is low dosed ingredients so you need to buy a whole bottle every two weeks. What looks like a good price on pills is deceptive as you need so much of it to get to recommended amounts. And they're not aimed at steriod users either unlike this product.

You need 7 caps a day as that's how many was needed to jam all the recommended daily amounts into it. There's several episodes about n2guard and other n2bm products that I recommended listening too, they're designed really well and a lot of the details are clever and interesting.

As for cost, in my touchdown thread I will compare n2guard to two local alternative options as well as to buying the core ingredients individually, based on a 30 day cycle to show you guys that even with us getting smashed by the exchange rate paying for it in USD and the high shipping costs to New Zealand it's still way more economical than the alternatives and also way more complete for our purposes.

Plus we're supporting a cool company that supports Evo and has reps accessible to us and endless past user logs with bloodwork from guys using n2guard alongside the exact compounds we're using it for. Most of the supplement industry is crooked businessmen and dodgy bottom feeding food companies trying to minimise costs so they can profit more, not do what's best for your health.

The supplement industry in Australia and New Zealand is largely an unregulated grey market and there's lots of godawful crap and awful people in it. If you're Australian I highly recommend you look up the ABC consumer affairs show The Checkout and their episode on supplements and vitamins, it's shocking. We don't want to be giving money to scumbags like that.

There's also an episode of the Evo podcast where n2guard is compared to another product called Liv52 (sp?) and I recommend listening to it and copying the methodology they used to compare them and do the same thing for local equivalents or buying all the ingredients at right doses individually. It's mind bending. N2Guard is not expensive when you break the costs down.

A bottle of n2guard costs $99 USD ($177 NZD) and about $50 for post so will come to around $230. I only need 1 bottle for my anadrol cycle at the recommend 7 caps a day on the bottle but @LevButlerov will help me get started on it with my other supplements and medicine and I'm gonna start off at 3 caps a day and titrate up while monitoring effects, that strategy has worked out well for us before

So for my 30 day cycle it's gonna be about $7.60 NZD a day ($4.25 USD) to run it. Four-fifths of fuck-all in other words.

I wish I worked it out like this before, as it did look like it was too expensive for me initially but it's atcually cheaper and way better and way more complete than any alternatives I've seen or come up with. And the protection we gain from it is worth a hell of a lot more than that to me.

Thanks to @RoySimpson and @LevButlerov for their help with this - I've been lurking around the forum watching what other Aussie and Kiwi guys were doing and how I might be able to get it but @RoySimpson made light work of it and now @trentwin1 and I both have a bottle of n2guard each, and a bottle of 50mg/ml Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk and are pretty much completely sorted in the oral steriods department now!

This is another option for guys in Australia or New Zealand, you can pitch in together and share the shipping on an order. Shipping on three bottles split between three guys might be borderline reasonable.

@trentwin1 and I are both keen to get going on our anadrol cycles and log our experience using n2bm - we'll let you know if it acts differently in the southern hemisphere like equipoise does

@trentwin1 is starting his cycle soon but I'm on week 4 of my 16 week equipoise and testosterone cycle and am going to wait until week 8 before I introduce the anadrol when the Anadrol, that general strategy was what @HarleyGuy advised me to try when I was designing my cycle a couple of months back, I definitely see now how wise it is to not have unnecessary compounds confusing things. I think the 8 week mark will he perfect timing based on how things are slowly but surely progressing... I feel in a great place with testosterone especially.

These are the oral suspensions I got from @kiwibulk which were waiting for me at the PO Box at the same time too, it would have been a oral steriod themed trip to the post box if I didn't also get peptides and other sweet warez from @Life-Forge also.

I was hoping with the oral suspension it might be easier for the machine at the drug testing office to read as it wouldn't have the same issues as pills where the needle-head reader just keeps hitting filler in the pill, but I knew that testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not a high enough concentration to be read by that machine so it's unlikely the 50mg/ml anadrol or the 25mg/ml dianabol would scan but it was worth a try. I'll post the lab results when they're back.

Same with the test prop ester in the Sustanon blend from @kiwibulk three other esters were detected but not test prop, which makes sense as it would be an even lower concentration than the 100mg/ml prop that didn't read.

So both the test prop and Sustanon as well as these two oral suspensions of dianabol and anadrol have been sent off to the big lab for testing and we have to wait 3 - 6 weeks for the results. I think it'll be super interesting to see the results for the Sustanon.

I understand how the signature based machines/software works but still I thought it might get confused. I'm going to talk to someone there in their backend office and see about volunteering there myself, I was thinking I could be an extra for when there's big festivals and concerts on and they have a tent setup to do pill testing and other substance testing on demand inside the gig.

That'd probably help them and I would get trained up on how to use the machine and software and get access to it to run tests on gear myself which will hopefully open up some new avenues for on-demand testing of anabolics and everything else I can figure out how to test.

I've also been talking to and getting to know @kiwibulk over the past few weeks and he's been interested in my drug testing project and sent me samples to get tested that happened to match my cycle too

It's been sweet pinning his equipoise and is much easier to measure and dose than how I was doing it. That was the boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk I had tested and at 200mg/ml concentration it read fine.

He's been affected by the global shortages as well and like Rob at @AuStarLabs he doesn't want to compromise quality by sourcing unknown gear just to fill the demand like tons of other people, especiall off evo are doing. So things might take some time to come right.

@kiwibulk pre-dates many of us on the NZ section here on Evo and has been quietly sitting in the background hooking up the occasional guy who came to Evo in search of legit NZ sources.

He doesn't want an influx of new people contacting him but is potentially accessible to Evo loggers but with a more limited range due to the shortages.

I have his list and he's explained his current situation and supply limitations to me and will keep me updated so I can pass the informationon to other guys going forward. He's not accepting new contacts via Theema like he used to. But I agreed to talk to people on his behalf and see if what they're after is on his list and doable at the moment.

For guys who are going to log on Evo and other guys who are serious about this things should be cool if he has what you're after in stock. I'm running @kiwibulk equipoise in this log right now

He only accepts crypto but I can also potentially help with crypto transactions if you can't figure it out - send me a DM.

I will make a proper touchdown thread for my @Life-Forge haul but I thought I'd post some photos of his sweet new labels.

I got a second bottle of Ibutamoren (MK-677) and a bottle of Arimidex and a a vial of ipamorelin.

Life Forge has just got in these shiny new holographic labels and this new box for holding peptides vials - it comes with a draw type peptide vial holder inside that can take six vials.

I'm planning to get a small mini fridge for my van, the type that can take like 6 cans of softdrink and use it for keeping peptides safe. If I take this box up to add a bit of waterproofing I can use this vial holder in the fridge to keep them sitting secure.

Regardless the new box and the labels are rad so well done with that @Life-Forge I have a discount code for their site (VANLIFE) if that helps anyone - it will make GLP-1s and stuff slightly cheaper.

I'm interested in using the continuous heart rate monitoring system on my watch and it's sleep monitoring features to record and log how my sleeping patterns change adding ipamorelin and if logging them will reveal any patterns

There's a good half-hour Evo podcast episode where @stevesmi and @Mobster go over it and it peaked my interest enough to ask Life Forge for it. I was going to try DSIP - Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide with the MK-677 to see if I could get increased recovery ability via deeper sleep and hopefully increased growth hormone production.

Be interested to see how it goes, I've been experimenting with sleep related drugs, potions, supplements, teas, soaps and whatever since I was a teenager.

Always struggled to sleep properly and it really holds me back badly. I want to continue experimenting but with new techniques and peptides instead of prescription medicine, and incorporating meditation and the like too.

My sleep issues are on the mend after I starting using MC at night again and have been a bit more regular. I still have work to do in this area but it's trending upwards.

Yesterday I did both @AuStarLabs testosterone enanthate and @Life-Forge retatrutide pins. Still dosing retatrutide EOD and enanthate ED. 2.5mg of reta a week and 600mg testosterone.

I'm all switched back to Test E now and @AuStarLabs was kind enough to sort me out some new enanthate since I was quickly running out of their enanthate.

I have been having fun experimenting with different esters and blends but my plan for my own supply for my self-administered testosterone therapy and for my blasts like I'm currently on to keep my relationship with @AuStarLabs who I now completely trust to supply clean gear and to look out for us.

I'm researching other ways for guys to get gear, especially self-trt guys and want to document the process of ordering Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Geneza and Beligas and brands like that, at 150mg a week you'd only need three vials a year and could get them one at a time. Easily personal use and I want the option to be there for some guys so plan to do it myself and document it.
I want there to be options of different types to suit different people but me personally, I'm really stoked I found @AuStarLabs and it's a big weight off my shoulders to just have this sorted and I plan to continue pinning their gear daily for the forseeable future

For guys who are struggling with crypto transactions, I may be able to help you pay for test via crypto with both of the crypto-only sources or online ones like @ugfreak too - they have a pretty big discount for paying in crypto, check out the profile of their rep @Quadsweep and check out his UGFreak related threads.

The discounts you get for crypto from UGFreak make up for the money you loose to bitcoin fees. But I confirmed they post to NZ and so did a few others, and heard of a few who've landed stuff successfully. I'd recommend getting orals only in one package and waiting and getting oils only once that lands, and not mixed the two.

I think they would probably package it like that anyway but I didn't ask. Anyone who has any luck with overseas vendors I'm interested to hear about, especially and exclusively Evo-verified ones I want NZ to be able to click into the wider Evo global community with testosterone and have tjar as an option for lifters and self-trt guys and anyone who needs testosterone like that.

If encourage everyone to male touchdown threads when they get any type of gear though. Our NZ section is heating up and we've gained 3 new loggers in the past fortnight .

I'm going to get two vials of enanthate every month from AUStarLabs and like everything else I'll continue getting the @AuStarLabs gear tested and post threads with the batch numbers and photos so other Evo brothers & sisters can match their batch numbers to them and see if the barch has already been tested.

I still recommended getting at least one of your vials tested tho, for your own peace of mind.

I posted the spare bottle of @AuStarLabs test propionate to another Evo logger who was keen as to try it, and he says he gets no PIP from it!!

I am jealous but good for him

I've started warming up my oils every morning before injecting them as recommended by @LevButlerov - this has been really helping and I can't believe I wasn't already doing this. So thanks for that Lev!!

The tiny micro-needles with the IU measurements are sold by Life Forge but not available at the needle exchange.

There are alternatives but I got them on my first time with @Life-Forge and they're perfect for the peptide fat injections and became part of my routine so I recommend getting some to try.

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 31: Lots of Gear to Show!!!
and finally fucking friday​

Got a bunch of sweet steriods, supplements and other cool stuff in the mail from from Need to Build Muscle, @Life-Forge and @kiwibulk

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I had lots of sweet stuff waiting for me at the PO Box this week, including n2guard from Need to Build Muscle all the way from the USA!

I've got a bit of forum work ahead of me taking nice photos and making touchdown threads for each of these but thought I'd share a bit of my haul since they don't happen very often.

I was worried about this one, I'm sure many of my Australian and Kiwi Evo brothers know the feeling but getting stuff from America is often difficult as well as expensive, so I wanted you all to know that the n2guard arrived safe and sound all the way from the USA where it was made.

It was sent via USPS who handed it to NZ Post for the "last mile" - so the whole journey was using national postal carriers on both ends, the tracking worked the whole way and there was no problems in the end. And all that time the n2bm rep and Evo logger @RoySimpson was available to help me with any issues and sorted the post details out for me which worked out great!

So if you're in NZ or Australia and have been holding off due to worrying about cost and postage then rest assured that it'll arrive.

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I'm so used to supplements being a scam that these guys at n2bm surprise me all the time. One thing I hate is low dosed ingredients so you need to buy a whole bottle every two weeks. What looks like a good price on pills is deceptive as you need so much of it to get to recommended amounts. And they're not aimed at steriod users either unlike this product.

You need 7 caps a day as that's how many was needed to jam all the recommended daily amounts into it. There's several episodes about n2guard and other n2bm products that I recommended listening too, they're designed really well and a lot of the details are clever and interesting.

As for cost, in my touchdown thread I will compare n2guard to two local alternative options as well as to buying the core ingredients individually, based on a 30 day cycle to show you guys that even with us getting smashed by the exchange rate paying for it in USD and the high shipping costs to New Zealand it's still way more economical than the alternatives and also way more complete for our purposes.

Plus we're supporting a cool company that supports Evo and has reps accessible to us and endless past user logs with bloodwork from guys using n2guard alongside the exact compounds we're using it for. Most of the supplement industry is crooked businessmen and dodgy bottom feeding food companies trying to minimise costs so they can profit more, not do what's best for your health.

The supplement industry in Australia and New Zealand is largely an unregulated grey market and there's lots of godawful crap and awful people in it. If you're Australian I highly recommend you look up the ABC consumer affairs show The Checkout and their episode on supplements and vitamins, it's shocking. We don't want to be giving money to scumbags like that.

There's also an episode of the Evo podcast where n2guard is compared to another product called Liv52 (sp?) and I recommend listening to it and copying the methodology they used to compare them and do the same thing for local equivalents or buying all the ingredients at right doses individually. It's mind bending. N2Guard is not expensive when you break the costs down.

A bottle of n2guard costs $99 USD ($177 NZD) and about $50 for post so will come to around $230. I only need 1 bottle for my anadrol cycle at the recommend 7 caps a day on the bottle but @LevButlerov will help me get started on it with my other supplements and medicine and I'm gonna start off at 3 caps a day and titrate up while monitoring effects, that strategy has worked out well for us before

So for my 30 day cycle it's gonna be about $7.60 NZD a day ($4.25 USD) to run it. Four-fifths of fuck-all in other words.

I wish I worked it out like this before, as it did look like it was too expensive for me initially but it's atcually cheaper and way better and way more complete than any alternatives I've seen or come up with. And the protection we gain from it is worth a hell of a lot more than that to me.

Thanks to @RoySimpson and @LevButlerov for their help with this - I've been lurking around the forum watching what other Aussie and Kiwi guys were doing and how I might be able to get it but @RoySimpson made light work of it and now @trentwin1 and I both have a bottle of n2guard each, and a bottle of 50mg/ml Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk and are pretty much completely sorted in the oral steriods department now!

@trentwin1 and I are both keen to get going on our anadrol cycles and log our experience using n2bm - we'll let you know if it acts differently in the southern hemisphere like equipoise does

@trentwin1 is starting his cycle soon but I'm on week 4 of my 16 week equipoise and testosterone cycle and am going to wait until week 8 before I introduce the anadrol when the Anadrol, that general strategy was what @HarleyGuy advised me to try when I was designing my cycle a couple of months back, I definitely see now how wise it is to not have unnecessary compounds confusing things. I think the 8 week mark will he perfect timing based on how things are slowly but surely progressing... I feel in a great place with testosterone especially.

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These are the oral suspensions I got from @kiwibulk which were waiting for me at the PO Box at the same time too, it would have been a oral steriod themed trip to the post box if I didn't also get peptides and other sweet warez from @Life-Forge also.

I was hoping with the oral suspension it might be easier for the machine at the drug testing office to read as it wouldn't have the same issues as pills where the needle-head reader just keeps hitting filler in the pill, but I knew that testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not a high enough concentration to be read by that machine so it's unlikely the 50mg/ml anadrol or the 25mg/ml dianabol would scan but it was worth a try. I'll post the lab results when they're back.

Same with the test prop ester in the Sustanon blend from @kiwibulk three other esters were detected but not test prop, which makes sense as it would be an even lower concentration than the 100mg/ml prop that didn't read.

So both the test prop and Sustanon as well as these two oral suspensions of dianabol and anadrol have been sent off to the big lab for testing and we have to wait 3 - 6 weeks for the results. I think it'll be super interesting to see the results for the Sustanon.

I understand how the signature based machines/software works but still I thought it might get confused. I'm going to talk to someone there in their backend office and see about volunteering there myself, I was thinking I could be an extra for when there's big festivals and concerts on and they have a tent setup to do pill testing and other substance testing on demand inside the gig.

That'd probably help them and I would get trained up on how to use the machine and software and get access to it to run tests on gear myself which will hopefully open up some new avenues for on-demand testing of anabolics and everything else I can figure out how to test.

I've also been talking to and getting to know @kiwibulk over the past few weeks and he's been interested in my drug testing project and sent me samples to get tested that happened to match my cycle too

It's been sweet pinning his equipoise and is much easier to measure and dose than how I was doing it. That was the boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk I had tested and at 200mg/ml concentration it read fine.

He's been affected by the global shortages as well and like Rob at @AuStarLabs he doesn't want to compromise quality by sourcing unknown gear just to fill the demand like tons of other people, especiall off evo are doing. So things might take some time to come right.

@kiwibulk pre-dates many of us on the NZ section here on Evo and has been quietly sitting in the background hooking up the occasional guy who came to Evo in search of legit NZ sources.

He doesn't want an influx of new people contacting him but is potentially accessible to Evo loggers but with a more limited range due to the shortages.

I have his list and he's explained his current situation and supply limitations to me and will keep me updated so I can pass the informationon to other guys going forward. He's not accepting new contacts via Theema like he used to. But I agreed to talk to people on his behalf and see if what they're after is on his list and doable at the moment.

For guys who are going to log on Evo and other guys who are serious about this things should be cool if he has what you're after in stock. I'm running @kiwibulk equipoise in this log right now

He only accepts crypto but I can also potentially help with crypto transactions if you can't figure it out - send me a DM.

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I will make a proper touchdown thread for my @Life-Forge haul but I thought I'd post some photos of his sweet new labels.

I got a second bottle of Ibutamoren (MK-677) and a bottle of Arimidex and a a vial of ipamorelin.

Life Forge has just got in these shiny new holographic labels and this new box for holding peptides vials - it comes with a draw type peptide vial holder inside that can take six vials.

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I'm planning to get a small mini fridge for my van, the type that can take like 6 cans of softdrink and use it for keeping peptides safe. If I take this box up to add a bit of waterproofing I can use this vial holder in the fridge to keep them sitting secure.

Regardless the new box and the labels are rad so well done with that @Life-Forge I have a discount code for their site (VANLIFE) if that helps anyone - it will make GLP-1s and stuff slightly cheaper.

I'm interested in using the continuous heart rate monitoring system on my watch and it's sleep monitoring features to record and log how my sleeping patterns change adding ipamorelin and if logging them will reveal any patterns

There's a good half-hour Evo podcast episode where @stevesmi and @Mobster go over it and it peaked my interest enough to ask Life Forge for it. I was going to try DSIP - Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide with the MK-677 to see if I could get increased recovery ability via deeper sleep and hopefully increased growth hormone production.

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Be interested to see how it goes, I've been experimenting with sleep related drugs, potions, supplements, teas, soaps and whatever since I was a teenager.

Always struggled to sleep properly and it really holds me back badly. I want to continue experimenting but with new techniques and peptides instead of prescription medicine, and incorporating meditation and the like too.

My sleep issues are on the mend after I starting using MC at night again and have been a bit more regular. I still have work to do in this area but it's trending upwards.

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Yesterday I did both @AuStarLabs testosterone enanthate and @Life-Forge retatrutide pins. Still dosing retatrutide EOD and enanthate ED. 2.5mg of reta a week and 600mg testosterone.

I'm all switched back to Test E now and @AuStarLabs was kind enough to sort me out some new enanthate since I was quickly running out of their enanthate.

I have been having fun experimenting with different esters and blends but my plan for my own supply for my self-administered testosterone therapy and for my blasts like I'm currently on to keep my relationship with @AuStarLabs who I now completely trust to supply clean gear and to look out for us.

I'm researching other ways for guys to get gear, especially self-trt guys and want to document the process of ordering Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Geneza and Beligas and brands like that, at 150mg a week you'd only need three vials a year and could get them one at a time. Easily personal use and I want the option to be there for some guys so plan to do it myself and document it.
I want there to be options of different types to suit different people but me personally, I'm really stoked I found @AuStarLabs and it's a big weight off my shoulders to just have this sorted and I plan to continue pinning their gear daily for the forseeable future

For guys who are struggling with crypto transactions, I may be able to help you pay for test via crypto with both of the crypto-only sources or online ones like @ugfreak too - they have a pretty big discount for paying in crypto, check out the profile of their rep @Quadsweep and check out his UGFreak related threads.

The discounts you get for crypto from UGFreak make up for the money you loose to bitcoin fees. But I confirmed they post to NZ and so did a few others, and heard of a few who've landed stuff successfully. I'd recommend getting orals only in one package and waiting and getting oils only once that lands, and not mixed the two.

I think they would probably package it like that anyway but I didn't ask. Anyone who has any luck with overseas vendors I'm interested to hear about, especially and exclusively Evo-verified ones I want NZ to be able to click into the wider Evo global community with testosterone and have tjar as an option for lifters and self-trt guys and anyone who needs testosterone like that.

If encourage everyone to male touchdown threads when they get any type of gear though. Our NZ section is heating up and we've gained 3 new loggers in the past fortnight .

I'm going to get two vials of enanthate every month from AUStarLabs and like everything else I'll continue getting the @AuStarLabs gear tested and post threads with the batch numbers and photos so other Evo brothers & sisters can match their batch numbers to them and see if the barch has already been tested.

I still recommended getting at least one of your vials tested tho, for your own peace of mind.

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I posted the spare bottle of @AuStarLabs test propionate to another Evo logger who was keen as to try it, and he says he gets no PIP from it!!

I am jealous but good for him

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I've started warming up my oils every morning before injecting them as recommended by @LevButlerov - this has been really helping and I can't believe I wasn't already doing this. So thanks for that Lev!!

The tiny micro-needles with the IU measurements are sold by Life Forge but not available at the needle exchange.

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There are alternatives but I got them on my first time with @Life-Forge and they're perfect for the peptide fat injections and became part of my routine so I recommend getting some to try.

Big day and serious haul here, you lined yourself up very well for the next phases. @vanlife_gymbum
Good move spelling out the full shipping path on the n2guard because a lot of NZ and Aussie guys worry about customs and dead parcels and this kind of feedback gives them confidence to pull the trigger without stressing. I know the prices a bit higher with shipping but the product is high quality.

Breaking the n2guard cost down per day like you did is exactly what people need to see because on the surface the bottle plus postage in USD looks rough, then once you run the maths it turns into a pretty modest ed cost for very complete coverage. 7 caps a ed makes sense when you look at the label!

Your plan to start around 3 caps and then pyramind up while you watch digestion, sleep, blood pressure and general feel is smart and more guys should copy that kind of approach instead of hammering full dose from the 1st day.
When you drop that touchdown thread comparing it to the local options and to buying the individual ingredients you will probably save a lot of people money and health since most of the local supplement market really is what you described, underdosed grey market pills made by people who care more about margin than keeping users healthy on anadrol and other heavy gear.

The lab testing angle you are running with the oral suspensions and the oils is one of the biggest values you bring to the EVO NZ sub. Getting the quick machine read first then sending to the big lab when the concentration is too low to ping the handheld makes sense and the eventual reports will give everyone confidence in that sustanon, prop and the dbol and anadrol suspensions instead of people guessing by feel. Lets face it the labels aint great lol (sorry @kiwibulk)

If you can get on the inside as a volunteer and learn the machine and software you will become the go to tester for EVO NZ family and that is massive for harm reduction here. That is the kind of thing that actually changes the local scene over time since people will start demanding lab papers instead of just trusting labels and EVO forum talk.

@kiwibulk and the way you describe his current situation fits with what a real source does when raws get tight. He would rather limit that list and keep quality right than grab mystery stock to keep every product live which is what a lot of sketchy ass sources do when demand spikes, and you stepping in as the person who filters genuine EVO loggers and serious users is a good way to keep the noise down while still helping locals find proper gear.

Sending those suspensions and the equipoise for testing and then actually running the eq in this log while you report back gives everyone practical feedback plus the lab numbers which is exactly what we want. It also lines up well with your idea that people who want to contact him should be serious, willing to log and willing to treat this as a long term health project not a quick blast on mystery vials. This is probably the BEST advice I've seen!

The @Life-Forge Life Forge TD looks clean too, that extra MK677, the arimidex and the ipamorelin with the new packaging and vial holder looks good, I can see they are investing back into presentation and usability which matters when people are storing multiple peptides. The small mini fridge plan for the van with the insert box is clever since it keeps everything organised, upright and at a stable cold temperature which is half the battle with peptides on the road.

Using your watch for continuous heart rate and sleep tracking while you add ipamorelin is the exact kind of data approach that gets useful information over time. You have already tried a long list of sleep aids and potions so pivoting toward peptides plus meditation and better routines rather than prescription meds is a good progression as long as you stay honest with the logs and do not ignore nights where sleep is still rough. You have to really track the sleep.

Once you have a few weeks of heart rate and sleep trend data after adding ipamorelin you will be able to tell if it genuinely improves deep sleep or if it mainly alters dreams and wake patterns which is valuable feedback for everyone watching. I'm interested myself.

On the gear side you are sitting in a serious place now with that ED test enanthate, retatrutide, the Eq and the oral anadrol planned as a later phase. 600mgs of test with eq plus future anadrol is already heavy so your choice to wait until week 8 before bringing the anadrol in is smart, but I would wait until week 10 for anadrol imo

Retatrutide at 2.5mgs/week on top of that is powerful appetite and glucose control support but you've been on it so you know how it feels.

The warming oils trick is gold and a lot of guys never bother with it even though it instantly reduces pip and lets you run ED pins much more comfortably. Pair that with small needles where appropriate, relaxed injection pace and good rotation and ED enanthate becomes sustainable long term rather than a constant battle against sore sites. Who wants to pin into a painful pip site right? lol

Your plan to combo long term self TRT on @AuStarLabs AuStarLabs is a good choice too.

Helping people with crypto is a real service since that step blocks a lot of otherwise serious guys on EVO, but you are right to filter that through DMs and keep it low profile. The combination of you understanding the sources, understanding the labs and willing to hand hold the payment side makes EVO NZ sub a lot less isolated from the rest of Evo and that is a big step for the section.

Overall, by far the most detailed and best log in the EVO family!

 

[SPOONMAN366]

Ive missed your logs but have caught up now g,far out they are unreal to read you cover so much and do so much groundwork for the evo community,u should be proud you've earned your stripes 10x in my opinion
Super stoked u got some n2 gaurd on deck
Man I contemplated it
Im running this one that you got me on to a little while back from nz il be doing bloodwork when home next to see if it works better then my nac tudca combo I was doing prior,if it works in my favour for liver values il be re ordering or if not that's cool I will only be on orals for this last tail end 4 weeks of the cut but in future il perhaps do a n2gaurd order and bite the bullet with the shipping or even hit up the boys in w.a if they're keen on a bulk order and split between ourselves
Best of luck my g
Keep being amazing
Your definitely in good hands by the looks of everything
Onwards and upwards we go

 

[Mobster]

Liquid dbol - different

 

[Life-Forge]

Enjoy the goodies! What is the best way you have found to warm your oil? I've never done it, sounds like it might be worth a try. @vanlife_gymbum

 

[stevesmi]

Nah mate I have time and I'm happy to talk - I'll try send you a DM, one sec.

Thanks for the prod @LevButlerov

@vanlife_gymbum van is an awesome dude. taking time to help others. that is great to see how many people you have helped so far

 

[Ulter]

Day 31: Lots of Gear to Show!!!
and finally fucking friday​

Got a bunch of sweet steriods, supplements and other cool stuff in the mail from from Need to Build Muscle, @Life-Forge and @kiwibulk

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I had lots of sweet stuff waiting for me at the PO Box this week, including n2guard from Need to Build Muscle all the way from the USA!

I've got a bit of forum work ahead of me taking nice photos and making touchdown threads for each of these but thought I'd share a bit of my haul since they don't happen very often.

I was worried about this one, I'm sure many of my Australian and Kiwi Evo brothers know the feeling but getting stuff from America is often difficult as well as expensive, so I wanted you all to know that the n2guard arrived safe and sound all the way from the USA where it was made.

It was sent via USPS who handed it to NZ Post for the "last mile" - so the whole journey was using national postal carriers on both ends, the tracking worked the whole way and there was no problems in the end. And all that time the n2bm rep and Evo logger @RoySimpson was available to help me with any issues and sorted the post details out for me which worked out great!

So if you're in NZ or Australia and have been holding off due to worrying about cost and postage then rest assured that it'll arrive.

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I'm so used to supplements being a scam that these guys at n2bm surprise me all the time. One thing I hate is low dosed ingredients so you need to buy a whole bottle every two weeks. What looks like a good price on pills is deceptive as you need so much of it to get to recommended amounts. And they're not aimed at steriod users either unlike this product.

You need 7 caps a day as that's how many was needed to jam all the recommended daily amounts into it. There's several episodes about n2guard and other n2bm products that I recommended listening too, they're designed really well and a lot of the details are clever and interesting.

As for cost, in my touchdown thread I will compare n2guard to two local alternative options as well as to buying the core ingredients individually, based on a 30 day cycle to show you guys that even with us getting smashed by the exchange rate paying for it in USD and the high shipping costs to New Zealand it's still way more economical than the alternatives and also way more complete for our purposes.

Plus we're supporting a cool company that supports Evo and has reps accessible to us and endless past user logs with bloodwork from guys using n2guard alongside the exact compounds we're using it for. Most of the supplement industry is crooked businessmen and dodgy bottom feeding food companies trying to minimise costs so they can profit more, not do what's best for your health.

The supplement industry in Australia and New Zealand is largely an unregulated grey market and there's lots of godawful crap and awful people in it. If you're Australian I highly recommend you look up the ABC consumer affairs show The Checkout and their episode on supplements and vitamins, it's shocking. We don't want to be giving money to scumbags like that.

There's also an episode of the Evo podcast where n2guard is compared to another product called Liv52 (sp?) and I recommend listening to it and copying the methodology they used to compare them and do the same thing for local equivalents or buying all the ingredients at right doses individually. It's mind bending. N2Guard is not expensive when you break the costs down.

A bottle of n2guard costs $99 USD ($177 NZD) and about $50 for post so will come to around $230. I only need 1 bottle for my anadrol cycle at the recommend 7 caps a day on the bottle but @LevButlerov will help me get started on it with my other supplements and medicine and I'm gonna start off at 3 caps a day and titrate up while monitoring effects, that strategy has worked out well for us before

So for my 30 day cycle it's gonna be about $7.60 NZD a day ($4.25 USD) to run it. Four-fifths of fuck-all in other words.

I wish I worked it out like this before, as it did look like it was too expensive for me initially but it's atcually cheaper and way better and way more complete than any alternatives I've seen or come up with. And the protection we gain from it is worth a hell of a lot more than that to me.

Thanks to @RoySimpson and @LevButlerov for their help with this - I've been lurking around the forum watching what other Aussie and Kiwi guys were doing and how I might be able to get it but @RoySimpson made light work of it and now @trentwin1 and I both have a bottle of n2guard each, and a bottle of 50mg/ml Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk and are pretty much completely sorted in the oral steriods department now!

This is another option for guys in Australia or New Zealand, you can pitch in together and share the shipping on an order. Shipping on three bottles split between three guys might be borderline reasonable.

@trentwin1 and I are both keen to get going on our anadrol cycles and log our experience using n2bm - we'll let you know if it acts differently in the southern hemisphere like equipoise does

@trentwin1 is starting his cycle soon but I'm on week 4 of my 16 week equipoise and testosterone cycle and am going to wait until week 8 before I introduce the anadrol when the Anadrol, that general strategy was what @HarleyGuy advised me to try when I was designing my cycle a couple of months back, I definitely see now how wise it is to not have unnecessary compounds confusing things. I think the 8 week mark will he perfect timing based on how things are slowly but surely progressing... I feel in a great place with testosterone especially.

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These are the oral suspensions I got from @kiwibulk which were waiting for me at the PO Box at the same time too, it would have been a oral steriod themed trip to the post box if I didn't also get peptides and other sweet warez from @Life-Forge also.

I was hoping with the oral suspension it might be easier for the machine at the drug testing office to read as it wouldn't have the same issues as pills where the needle-head reader just keeps hitting filler in the pill, but I knew that testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not a high enough concentration to be read by that machine so it's unlikely the 50mg/ml anadrol or the 25mg/ml dianabol would scan but it was worth a try. I'll post the lab results when they're back.

Same with the test prop ester in the Sustanon blend from @kiwibulk three other esters were detected but not test prop, which makes sense as it would be an even lower concentration than the 100mg/ml prop that didn't read.

So both the test prop and Sustanon as well as these two oral suspensions of dianabol and anadrol have been sent off to the big lab for testing and we have to wait 3 - 6 weeks for the results. I think it'll be super interesting to see the results for the Sustanon.

I understand how the signature based machines/software works but still I thought it might get confused. I'm going to talk to someone there in their backend office and see about volunteering there myself, I was thinking I could be an extra for when there's big festivals and concerts on and they have a tent setup to do pill testing and other substance testing on demand inside the gig.

That'd probably help them and I would get trained up on how to use the machine and software and get access to it to run tests on gear myself which will hopefully open up some new avenues for on-demand testing of anabolics and everything else I can figure out how to test.

I've also been talking to and getting to know @kiwibulk over the past few weeks and he's been interested in my drug testing project and sent me samples to get tested that happened to match my cycle too

It's been sweet pinning his equipoise and is much easier to measure and dose than how I was doing it. That was the boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk I had tested and at 200mg/ml concentration it read fine.

He's been affected by the global shortages as well and like Rob at @AuStarLabs he doesn't want to compromise quality by sourcing unknown gear just to fill the demand like tons of other people, especiall off evo are doing. So things might take some time to come right.

@kiwibulk pre-dates many of us on the NZ section here on Evo and has been quietly sitting in the background hooking up the occasional guy who came to Evo in search of legit NZ sources.

He doesn't want an influx of new people contacting him but is potentially accessible to Evo loggers but with a more limited range due to the shortages.

I have his list and he's explained his current situation and supply limitations to me and will keep me updated so I can pass the informationon to other guys going forward. He's not accepting new contacts via Theema like he used to. But I agreed to talk to people on his behalf and see if what they're after is on his list and doable at the moment.

For guys who are going to log on Evo and other guys who are serious about this things should be cool if he has what you're after in stock. I'm running @kiwibulk equipoise in this log right now

He only accepts crypto but I can also potentially help with crypto transactions if you can't figure it out - send me a DM.

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I will make a proper touchdown thread for my @Life-Forge haul but I thought I'd post some photos of his sweet new labels.

I got a second bottle of Ibutamoren (MK-677) and a bottle of Arimidex and a a vial of ipamorelin.

Life Forge has just got in these shiny new holographic labels and this new box for holding peptides vials - it comes with a draw type peptide vial holder inside that can take six vials.

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I'm planning to get a small mini fridge for my van, the type that can take like 6 cans of softdrink and use it for keeping peptides safe. If I take this box up to add a bit of waterproofing I can use this vial holder in the fridge to keep them sitting secure.

Regardless the new box and the labels are rad so well done with that @Life-Forge I have a discount code for their site (VANLIFE) if that helps anyone - it will make GLP-1s and stuff slightly cheaper.

I'm interested in using the continuous heart rate monitoring system on my watch and it's sleep monitoring features to record and log how my sleeping patterns change adding ipamorelin and if logging them will reveal any patterns

There's a good half-hour Evo podcast episode where @stevesmi and @Mobster go over it and it peaked my interest enough to ask Life Forge for it. I was going to try DSIP - Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide with the MK-677 to see if I could get increased recovery ability via deeper sleep and hopefully increased growth hormone production.

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Be interested to see how it goes, I've been experimenting with sleep related drugs, potions, supplements, teas, soaps and whatever since I was a teenager.

Always struggled to sleep properly and it really holds me back badly. I want to continue experimenting but with new techniques and peptides instead of prescription medicine, and incorporating meditation and the like too.

My sleep issues are on the mend after I starting using MC at night again and have been a bit more regular. I still have work to do in this area but it's trending upwards.

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Yesterday I did both @AuStarLabs testosterone enanthate and @Life-Forge retatrutide pins. Still dosing retatrutide EOD and enanthate ED. 2.5mg of reta a week and 600mg testosterone.

I'm all switched back to Test E now and @AuStarLabs was kind enough to sort me out some new enanthate since I was quickly running out of their enanthate.

I have been having fun experimenting with different esters and blends but my plan for my own supply for my self-administered testosterone therapy and for my blasts like I'm currently on to keep my relationship with @AuStarLabs who I now completely trust to supply clean gear and to look out for us.

I'm researching other ways for guys to get gear, especially self-trt guys and want to document the process of ordering Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Geneza and Beligas and brands like that, at 150mg a week you'd only need three vials a year and could get them one at a time. Easily personal use and I want the option to be there for some guys so plan to do it myself and document it.
I want there to be options of different types to suit different people but me personally, I'm really stoked I found @AuStarLabs and it's a big weight off my shoulders to just have this sorted and I plan to continue pinning their gear daily for the forseeable future

For guys who are struggling with crypto transactions, I may be able to help you pay for test via crypto with both of the crypto-only sources or online ones like @ugfreak too - they have a pretty big discount for paying in crypto, check out the profile of their rep @Quadsweep and check out his UGFreak related threads.

The discounts you get for crypto from UGFreak make up for the money you loose to bitcoin fees. But I confirmed they post to NZ and so did a few others, and heard of a few who've landed stuff successfully. I'd recommend getting orals only in one package and waiting and getting oils only once that lands, and not mixed the two.

I think they would probably package it like that anyway but I didn't ask. Anyone who has any luck with overseas vendors I'm interested to hear about, especially and exclusively Evo-verified ones I want NZ to be able to click into the wider Evo global community with testosterone and have tjar as an option for lifters and self-trt guys and anyone who needs testosterone like that.

If encourage everyone to male touchdown threads when they get any type of gear though. Our NZ section is heating up and we've gained 3 new loggers in the past fortnight .

I'm going to get two vials of enanthate every month from AUStarLabs and like everything else I'll continue getting the @AuStarLabs gear tested and post threads with the batch numbers and photos so other Evo brothers & sisters can match their batch numbers to them and see if the barch has already been tested.

I still recommended getting at least one of your vials tested tho, for your own peace of mind.

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I posted the spare bottle of @AuStarLabs test propionate to another Evo logger who was keen as to try it, and he says he gets no PIP from it!!

I am jealous but good for him

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I've started warming up my oils every morning before injecting them as recommended by @LevButlerov - this has been really helping and I can't believe I wasn't already doing this. So thanks for that Lev!!

The tiny micro-needles with the IU measurements are sold by Life Forge but not available at the needle exchange.

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There are alternatives but I got them on my first time with @Life-Forge and they're perfect for the peptide fat injections and became part of my routine so I recommend getting some to try.

nice on the n2guard. that is some good stuff! also you looked JACKED!! getting harder to find body fat to pin into @vanlife_gymbum

 

[ceo]

Ive missed your logs but have caught up now g,far out they are unreal to read you cover so much and do so much groundwork for the evo community,u should be proud you've earned your stripes 10x in my opinion
Super stoked u got some n2 gaurd on deck
Man I contemplated it
Im running this one that you got me on to a little while back from nz il be doing bloodwork when home next to see if it works better then my nac tudca combo I was doing prior,if it works in my favour for liver values il be re ordering or if not that's cool I will only be on orals for this last tail end 4 weeks of the cut but in future il perhaps do a n2gaurd order and bite the bullet with the shipping or even hit up the boys in w.a if they're keen on a bulk order and split between ourselves
Best of luck my g
Keep being amazing
Your definitely in good hands by the looks of everything
Onwards and upwards we go

bros all in on this one. the n2guard is rocking! @SPOONMAN366 You're going to love it. It's a great product.

 

[ballin2504]

Day 31: Lots of Gear to Show!!!
and finally fucking friday​

Got a bunch of sweet steriods, supplements and other cool stuff in the mail from from Need to Build Muscle, @Life-Forge and @kiwibulk

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I had lots of sweet stuff waiting for me at the PO Box this week, including n2guard from Need to Build Muscle all the way from the USA!

I've got a bit of forum work ahead of me taking nice photos and making touchdown threads for each of these but thought I'd share a bit of my haul since they don't happen very often.

I was worried about this one, I'm sure many of my Australian and Kiwi Evo brothers know the feeling but getting stuff from America is often difficult as well as expensive, so I wanted you all to know that the n2guard arrived safe and sound all the way from the USA where it was made.

It was sent via USPS who handed it to NZ Post for the "last mile" - so the whole journey was using national postal carriers on both ends, the tracking worked the whole way and there was no problems in the end. And all that time the n2bm rep and Evo logger @RoySimpson was available to help me with any issues and sorted the post details out for me which worked out great!

So if you're in NZ or Australia and have been holding off due to worrying about cost and postage then rest assured that it'll arrive.

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I'm so used to supplements being a scam that these guys at n2bm surprise me all the time. One thing I hate is low dosed ingredients so you need to buy a whole bottle every two weeks. What looks like a good price on pills is deceptive as you need so much of it to get to recommended amounts. And they're not aimed at steriod users either unlike this product.

You need 7 caps a day as that's how many was needed to jam all the recommended daily amounts into it. There's several episodes about n2guard and other n2bm products that I recommended listening too, they're designed really well and a lot of the details are clever and interesting.

As for cost, in my touchdown thread I will compare n2guard to two local alternative options as well as to buying the core ingredients individually, based on a 30 day cycle to show you guys that even with us getting smashed by the exchange rate paying for it in USD and the high shipping costs to New Zealand it's still way more economical than the alternatives and also way more complete for our purposes.

Plus we're supporting a cool company that supports Evo and has reps accessible to us and endless past user logs with bloodwork from guys using n2guard alongside the exact compounds we're using it for. Most of the supplement industry is crooked businessmen and dodgy bottom feeding food companies trying to minimise costs so they can profit more, not do what's best for your health.

The supplement industry in Australia and New Zealand is largely an unregulated grey market and there's lots of godawful crap and awful people in it. If you're Australian I highly recommend you look up the ABC consumer affairs show The Checkout and their episode on supplements and vitamins, it's shocking. We don't want to be giving money to scumbags like that.

There's also an episode of the Evo podcast where n2guard is compared to another product called Liv52 (sp?) and I recommend listening to it and copying the methodology they used to compare them and do the same thing for local equivalents or buying all the ingredients at right doses individually. It's mind bending. N2Guard is not expensive when you break the costs down.

A bottle of n2guard costs $99 USD ($177 NZD) and about $50 for post so will come to around $230. I only need 1 bottle for my anadrol cycle at the recommend 7 caps a day on the bottle but @LevButlerov will help me get started on it with my other supplements and medicine and I'm gonna start off at 3 caps a day and titrate up while monitoring effects, that strategy has worked out well for us before

So for my 30 day cycle it's gonna be about $7.60 NZD a day ($4.25 USD) to run it. Four-fifths of fuck-all in other words.

I wish I worked it out like this before, as it did look like it was too expensive for me initially but it's atcually cheaper and way better and way more complete than any alternatives I've seen or come up with. And the protection we gain from it is worth a hell of a lot more than that to me.

Thanks to @RoySimpson and @LevButlerov for their help with this - I've been lurking around the forum watching what other Aussie and Kiwi guys were doing and how I might be able to get it but @RoySimpson made light work of it and now @trentwin1 and I both have a bottle of n2guard each, and a bottle of 50mg/ml Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk and are pretty much completely sorted in the oral steriods department now!

This is another option for guys in Australia or New Zealand, you can pitch in together and share the shipping on an order. Shipping on three bottles split between three guys might be borderline reasonable.

@trentwin1 and I are both keen to get going on our anadrol cycles and log our experience using n2bm - we'll let you know if it acts differently in the southern hemisphere like equipoise does

@trentwin1 is starting his cycle soon but I'm on week 4 of my 16 week equipoise and testosterone cycle and am going to wait until week 8 before I introduce the anadrol when the Anadrol, that general strategy was what @HarleyGuy advised me to try when I was designing my cycle a couple of months back, I definitely see now how wise it is to not have unnecessary compounds confusing things. I think the 8 week mark will he perfect timing based on how things are slowly but surely progressing... I feel in a great place with testosterone especially.

View attachment 144555

These are the oral suspensions I got from @kiwibulk which were waiting for me at the PO Box at the same time too, it would have been a oral steriod themed trip to the post box if I didn't also get peptides and other sweet warez from @Life-Forge also.

I was hoping with the oral suspension it might be easier for the machine at the drug testing office to read as it wouldn't have the same issues as pills where the needle-head reader just keeps hitting filler in the pill, but I knew that testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not a high enough concentration to be read by that machine so it's unlikely the 50mg/ml anadrol or the 25mg/ml dianabol would scan but it was worth a try. I'll post the lab results when they're back.

Same with the test prop ester in the Sustanon blend from @kiwibulk three other esters were detected but not test prop, which makes sense as it would be an even lower concentration than the 100mg/ml prop that didn't read.

So both the test prop and Sustanon as well as these two oral suspensions of dianabol and anadrol have been sent off to the big lab for testing and we have to wait 3 - 6 weeks for the results. I think it'll be super interesting to see the results for the Sustanon.

I understand how the signature based machines/software works but still I thought it might get confused. I'm going to talk to someone there in their backend office and see about volunteering there myself, I was thinking I could be an extra for when there's big festivals and concerts on and they have a tent setup to do pill testing and other substance testing on demand inside the gig.

That'd probably help them and I would get trained up on how to use the machine and software and get access to it to run tests on gear myself which will hopefully open up some new avenues for on-demand testing of anabolics and everything else I can figure out how to test.

I've also been talking to and getting to know @kiwibulk over the past few weeks and he's been interested in my drug testing project and sent me samples to get tested that happened to match my cycle too

It's been sweet pinning his equipoise and is much easier to measure and dose than how I was doing it. That was the boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk I had tested and at 200mg/ml concentration it read fine.

He's been affected by the global shortages as well and like Rob at @AuStarLabs he doesn't want to compromise quality by sourcing unknown gear just to fill the demand like tons of other people, especiall off evo are doing. So things might take some time to come right.

@kiwibulk pre-dates many of us on the NZ section here on Evo and has been quietly sitting in the background hooking up the occasional guy who came to Evo in search of legit NZ sources.

He doesn't want an influx of new people contacting him but is potentially accessible to Evo loggers but with a more limited range due to the shortages.

I have his list and he's explained his current situation and supply limitations to me and will keep me updated so I can pass the informationon to other guys going forward. He's not accepting new contacts via Theema like he used to. But I agreed to talk to people on his behalf and see if what they're after is on his list and doable at the moment.

For guys who are going to log on Evo and other guys who are serious about this things should be cool if he has what you're after in stock. I'm running @kiwibulk equipoise in this log right now

He only accepts crypto but I can also potentially help with crypto transactions if you can't figure it out - send me a DM.

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I will make a proper touchdown thread for my @Life-Forge haul but I thought I'd post some photos of his sweet new labels.

I got a second bottle of Ibutamoren (MK-677) and a bottle of Arimidex and a a vial of ipamorelin.

Life Forge has just got in these shiny new holographic labels and this new box for holding peptides vials - it comes with a draw type peptide vial holder inside that can take six vials.

View attachment 144563

I'm planning to get a small mini fridge for my van, the type that can take like 6 cans of softdrink and use it for keeping peptides safe. If I take this box up to add a bit of waterproofing I can use this vial holder in the fridge to keep them sitting secure.

Regardless the new box and the labels are rad so well done with that @Life-Forge I have a discount code for their site (VANLIFE) if that helps anyone - it will make GLP-1s and stuff slightly cheaper.

I'm interested in using the continuous heart rate monitoring system on my watch and it's sleep monitoring features to record and log how my sleeping patterns change adding ipamorelin and if logging them will reveal any patterns

There's a good half-hour Evo podcast episode where @stevesmi and @Mobster go over it and it peaked my interest enough to ask Life Forge for it. I was going to try DSIP - Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide with the MK-677 to see if I could get increased recovery ability via deeper sleep and hopefully increased growth hormone production.

View attachment 144567

Be interested to see how it goes, I've been experimenting with sleep related drugs, potions, supplements, teas, soaps and whatever since I was a teenager.

Always struggled to sleep properly and it really holds me back badly. I want to continue experimenting but with new techniques and peptides instead of prescription medicine, and incorporating meditation and the like too.

My sleep issues are on the mend after I starting using MC at night again and have been a bit more regular. I still have work to do in this area but it's trending upwards.

View attachment 144568

Yesterday I did both @AuStarLabs testosterone enanthate and @Life-Forge retatrutide pins. Still dosing retatrutide EOD and enanthate ED. 2.5mg of reta a week and 600mg testosterone.

I'm all switched back to Test E now and @AuStarLabs was kind enough to sort me out some new enanthate since I was quickly running out of their enanthate.

I have been having fun experimenting with different esters and blends but my plan for my own supply for my self-administered testosterone therapy and for my blasts like I'm currently on to keep my relationship with @AuStarLabs who I now completely trust to supply clean gear and to look out for us.

I'm researching other ways for guys to get gear, especially self-trt guys and want to document the process of ordering Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Geneza and Beligas and brands like that, at 150mg a week you'd only need three vials a year and could get them one at a time. Easily personal use and I want the option to be there for some guys so plan to do it myself and document it.
I want there to be options of different types to suit different people but me personally, I'm really stoked I found @AuStarLabs and it's a big weight off my shoulders to just have this sorted and I plan to continue pinning their gear daily for the forseeable future

For guys who are struggling with crypto transactions, I may be able to help you pay for test via crypto with both of the crypto-only sources or online ones like @ugfreak too - they have a pretty big discount for paying in crypto, check out the profile of their rep @Quadsweep and check out his UGFreak related threads.

The discounts you get for crypto from UGFreak make up for the money you loose to bitcoin fees. But I confirmed they post to NZ and so did a few others, and heard of a few who've landed stuff successfully. I'd recommend getting orals only in one package and waiting and getting oils only once that lands, and not mixed the two.

I think they would probably package it like that anyway but I didn't ask. Anyone who has any luck with overseas vendors I'm interested to hear about, especially and exclusively Evo-verified ones I want NZ to be able to click into the wider Evo global community with testosterone and have tjar as an option for lifters and self-trt guys and anyone who needs testosterone like that.

If encourage everyone to male touchdown threads when they get any type of gear though. Our NZ section is heating up and we've gained 3 new loggers in the past fortnight .

I'm going to get two vials of enanthate every month from AUStarLabs and like everything else I'll continue getting the @AuStarLabs gear tested and post threads with the batch numbers and photos so other Evo brothers & sisters can match their batch numbers to them and see if the barch has already been tested.

I still recommended getting at least one of your vials tested tho, for your own peace of mind.

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I posted the spare bottle of @AuStarLabs test propionate to another Evo logger who was keen as to try it, and he says he gets no PIP from it!!

I am jealous but good for him

View attachment 144557

I've started warming up my oils every morning before injecting them as recommended by @LevButlerov - this has been really helping and I can't believe I wasn't already doing this. So thanks for that Lev!!

The tiny micro-needles with the IU measurements are sold by Life Forge but not available at the needle exchange.

View attachment 144558

There are alternatives but I got them on my first time with @Life-Forge and they're perfect for the peptide fat injections and became part of my routine so I recommend getting some to try.

@vanlife_gymbum looks like you had a lot of good touchdowns there and got a lot of good products. It seems like keep up the good work.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Haha that didn't occur to me! I'll do that next time for sure.

I did the test prop experiment while you were away, here's my entry about my first pin but I'm sure I spent the whole week talking about this but struggling to find more.

I started with quad day 1, glute 2, then moved to delts and rotated back and forth, doing 0.71ml every morning and PIP isn't the term I'd use, my body was rejecting them. It wasn't my technique, the first pin was so smooth I announced six hours later that I got no PIP, then I couldn't walk properly the next day, like a full 50% reduction in speed.

And they'd sit there. I could feel every shot and know where it was and how many days ago I did it. I'm pretty good at ignoring pain and problems in general but fuck... and also I was enjoying the mental affects of the prop, I mean I love enanthate too but I really felt it was different.

One suggestion of yours I did nail while you were away too was the one and a half inch needle...

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So big it doesn't even fit in the frame haha. I really thought it was a prop when I first saw it.. but now it's all good, I've done at least 8, all in thr glute or potentially I did the quad too but I was not sure on that one, but confident with the glute now.

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I think it'll be good to add this to the rotation too, like one time I use a 1" and next time 1.5" so the depots will he a half inch apart - that seems worthwhile.



That's cool man!! I'd love to do stuff like that, even just mixing already made bottles into blends. I've decided for testosterone I'm gonna try importing it a vial at a time, hard to argue that's not personal use, but some touchdown pics of see with like 15 vials would probably cause alarm. I've had like a years worth a benzos seized and they only sent me a letter and testosterone is not in that class at all.

But that would allow me to start using big brands like Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Beligas and all those big places with certificates of analysis for batches and purity testing and shit, have that stuff for TRT in the future and to write up the method for others. Beem talking to quite a few guys lately who have concerns (wife nagging) about gear quality so just for TRT-only guys I think that'd be better.

I use a UGL @AuStarLabs who've recently joined Evo and I'm very happy with them but having some more options for those kinda guys would be good.

One of those guys atcually told me they were using GHK-Cu to tighted their loose skin after weight loss.. have you heard of that? This is one of the ones that was in the GLOW stack you started out with right ? Sounds intriguing

I'll answer the other stuff tonight - have a good day bro, good to have you back!

@vanlife_gymbum looks like you got a lean physique building up. Waist is looking super tight. thanks for the injection info

 

[2Thick]

Day 31: Lots of Gear to Show!!!
and finally fucking friday​

Got a bunch of sweet steriods, supplements and other cool stuff in the mail from from Need to Build Muscle, @Life-Forge and @kiwibulk

View attachment 144548

I had lots of sweet stuff waiting for me at the PO Box this week, including n2guard from Need to Build Muscle all the way from the USA!

I've got a bit of forum work ahead of me taking nice photos and making touchdown threads for each of these but thought I'd share a bit of my haul since they don't happen very often.

I was worried about this one, I'm sure many of my Australian and Kiwi Evo brothers know the feeling but getting stuff from America is often difficult as well as expensive, so I wanted you all to know that the n2guard arrived safe and sound all the way from the USA where it was made.

It was sent via USPS who handed it to NZ Post for the "last mile" - so the whole journey was using national postal carriers on both ends, the tracking worked the whole way and there was no problems in the end. And all that time the n2bm rep and Evo logger @RoySimpson was available to help me with any issues and sorted the post details out for me which worked out great!

So if you're in NZ or Australia and have been holding off due to worrying about cost and postage then rest assured that it'll arrive.

View attachment 144526

I'm so used to supplements being a scam that these guys at n2bm surprise me all the time. One thing I hate is low dosed ingredients so you need to buy a whole bottle every two weeks. What looks like a good price on pills is deceptive as you need so much of it to get to recommended amounts. And they're not aimed at steriod users either unlike this product.

You need 7 caps a day as that's how many was needed to jam all the recommended daily amounts into it. There's several episodes about n2guard and other n2bm products that I recommended listening too, they're designed really well and a lot of the details are clever and interesting.

As for cost, in my touchdown thread I will compare n2guard to two local alternative options as well as to buying the core ingredients individually, based on a 30 day cycle to show you guys that even with us getting smashed by the exchange rate paying for it in USD and the high shipping costs to New Zealand it's still way more economical than the alternatives and also way more complete for our purposes.

Plus we're supporting a cool company that supports Evo and has reps accessible to us and endless past user logs with bloodwork from guys using n2guard alongside the exact compounds we're using it for. Most of the supplement industry is crooked businessmen and dodgy bottom feeding food companies trying to minimise costs so they can profit more, not do what's best for your health.

The supplement industry in Australia and New Zealand is largely an unregulated grey market and there's lots of godawful crap and awful people in it. If you're Australian I highly recommend you look up the ABC consumer affairs show The Checkout and their episode on supplements and vitamins, it's shocking. We don't want to be giving money to scumbags like that.

There's also an episode of the Evo podcast where n2guard is compared to another product called Liv52 (sp?) and I recommend listening to it and copying the methodology they used to compare them and do the same thing for local equivalents or buying all the ingredients at right doses individually. It's mind bending. N2Guard is not expensive when you break the costs down.

A bottle of n2guard costs $99 USD ($177 NZD) and about $50 for post so will come to around $230. I only need 1 bottle for my anadrol cycle at the recommend 7 caps a day on the bottle but @LevButlerov will help me get started on it with my other supplements and medicine and I'm gonna start off at 3 caps a day and titrate up while monitoring effects, that strategy has worked out well for us before

So for my 30 day cycle it's gonna be about $7.60 NZD a day ($4.25 USD) to run it. Four-fifths of fuck-all in other words.

I wish I worked it out like this before, as it did look like it was too expensive for me initially but it's atcually cheaper and way better and way more complete than any alternatives I've seen or come up with. And the protection we gain from it is worth a hell of a lot more than that to me.

Thanks to @RoySimpson and @LevButlerov for their help with this - I've been lurking around the forum watching what other Aussie and Kiwi guys were doing and how I might be able to get it but @RoySimpson made light work of it and now @trentwin1 and I both have a bottle of n2guard each, and a bottle of 50mg/ml Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk and are pretty much completely sorted in the oral steriods department now!

This is another option for guys in Australia or New Zealand, you can pitch in together and share the shipping on an order. Shipping on three bottles split between three guys might be borderline reasonable.

@trentwin1 and I are both keen to get going on our anadrol cycles and log our experience using n2bm - we'll let you know if it acts differently in the southern hemisphere like equipoise does

@trentwin1 is starting his cycle soon but I'm on week 4 of my 16 week equipoise and testosterone cycle and am going to wait until week 8 before I introduce the anadrol when the Anadrol, that general strategy was what @HarleyGuy advised me to try when I was designing my cycle a couple of months back, I definitely see now how wise it is to not have unnecessary compounds confusing things. I think the 8 week mark will he perfect timing based on how things are slowly but surely progressing... I feel in a great place with testosterone especially.

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These are the oral suspensions I got from @kiwibulk which were waiting for me at the PO Box at the same time too, it would have been a oral steriod themed trip to the post box if I didn't also get peptides and other sweet warez from @Life-Forge also.

I was hoping with the oral suspension it might be easier for the machine at the drug testing office to read as it wouldn't have the same issues as pills where the needle-head reader just keeps hitting filler in the pill, but I knew that testosterone propionate at 100mg per ml was not a high enough concentration to be read by that machine so it's unlikely the 50mg/ml anadrol or the 25mg/ml dianabol would scan but it was worth a try. I'll post the lab results when they're back.

Same with the test prop ester in the Sustanon blend from @kiwibulk three other esters were detected but not test prop, which makes sense as it would be an even lower concentration than the 100mg/ml prop that didn't read.

So both the test prop and Sustanon as well as these two oral suspensions of dianabol and anadrol have been sent off to the big lab for testing and we have to wait 3 - 6 weeks for the results. I think it'll be super interesting to see the results for the Sustanon.

I understand how the signature based machines/software works but still I thought it might get confused. I'm going to talk to someone there in their backend office and see about volunteering there myself, I was thinking I could be an extra for when there's big festivals and concerts on and they have a tent setup to do pill testing and other substance testing on demand inside the gig.

That'd probably help them and I would get trained up on how to use the machine and software and get access to it to run tests on gear myself which will hopefully open up some new avenues for on-demand testing of anabolics and everything else I can figure out how to test.

I've also been talking to and getting to know @kiwibulk over the past few weeks and he's been interested in my drug testing project and sent me samples to get tested that happened to match my cycle too

It's been sweet pinning his equipoise and is much easier to measure and dose than how I was doing it. That was the boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk I had tested and at 200mg/ml concentration it read fine.

He's been affected by the global shortages as well and like Rob at @AuStarLabs he doesn't want to compromise quality by sourcing unknown gear just to fill the demand like tons of other people, especiall off evo are doing. So things might take some time to come right.

@kiwibulk pre-dates many of us on the NZ section here on Evo and has been quietly sitting in the background hooking up the occasional guy who came to Evo in search of legit NZ sources.

He doesn't want an influx of new people contacting him but is potentially accessible to Evo loggers but with a more limited range due to the shortages.

I have his list and he's explained his current situation and supply limitations to me and will keep me updated so I can pass the informationon to other guys going forward. He's not accepting new contacts via Theema like he used to. But I agreed to talk to people on his behalf and see if what they're after is on his list and doable at the moment.

For guys who are going to log on Evo and other guys who are serious about this things should be cool if he has what you're after in stock. I'm running @kiwibulk equipoise in this log right now

He only accepts crypto but I can also potentially help with crypto transactions if you can't figure it out - send me a DM.

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I will make a proper touchdown thread for my @Life-Forge haul but I thought I'd post some photos of his sweet new labels.

I got a second bottle of Ibutamoren (MK-677) and a bottle of Arimidex and a a vial of ipamorelin.

Life Forge has just got in these shiny new holographic labels and this new box for holding peptides vials - it comes with a draw type peptide vial holder inside that can take six vials.

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I'm planning to get a small mini fridge for my van, the type that can take like 6 cans of softdrink and use it for keeping peptides safe. If I take this box up to add a bit of waterproofing I can use this vial holder in the fridge to keep them sitting secure.

Regardless the new box and the labels are rad so well done with that @Life-Forge I have a discount code for their site (VANLIFE) if that helps anyone - it will make GLP-1s and stuff slightly cheaper.

I'm interested in using the continuous heart rate monitoring system on my watch and it's sleep monitoring features to record and log how my sleeping patterns change adding ipamorelin and if logging them will reveal any patterns

There's a good half-hour Evo podcast episode where @stevesmi and @Mobster go over it and it peaked my interest enough to ask Life Forge for it. I was going to try DSIP - Delta Sleep Inducing Peptide with the MK-677 to see if I could get increased recovery ability via deeper sleep and hopefully increased growth hormone production.

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Be interested to see how it goes, I've been experimenting with sleep related drugs, potions, supplements, teas, soaps and whatever since I was a teenager.

Always struggled to sleep properly and it really holds me back badly. I want to continue experimenting but with new techniques and peptides instead of prescription medicine, and incorporating meditation and the like too.

My sleep issues are on the mend after I starting using MC at night again and have been a bit more regular. I still have work to do in this area but it's trending upwards.

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Yesterday I did both @AuStarLabs testosterone enanthate and @Life-Forge retatrutide pins. Still dosing retatrutide EOD and enanthate ED. 2.5mg of reta a week and 600mg testosterone.

I'm all switched back to Test E now and @AuStarLabs was kind enough to sort me out some new enanthate since I was quickly running out of their enanthate.

I have been having fun experimenting with different esters and blends but my plan for my own supply for my self-administered testosterone therapy and for my blasts like I'm currently on to keep my relationship with @AuStarLabs who I now completely trust to supply clean gear and to look out for us.

I'm researching other ways for guys to get gear, especially self-trt guys and want to document the process of ordering Euro Pharma and Para Pharma and Geneza and Beligas and brands like that, at 150mg a week you'd only need three vials a year and could get them one at a time. Easily personal use and I want the option to be there for some guys so plan to do it myself and document it.
I want there to be options of different types to suit different people but me personally, I'm really stoked I found @AuStarLabs and it's a big weight off my shoulders to just have this sorted and I plan to continue pinning their gear daily for the forseeable future

For guys who are struggling with crypto transactions, I may be able to help you pay for test via crypto with both of the crypto-only sources or online ones like @ugfreak too - they have a pretty big discount for paying in crypto, check out the profile of their rep @Quadsweep and check out his UGFreak related threads.

The discounts you get for crypto from UGFreak make up for the money you loose to bitcoin fees. But I confirmed they post to NZ and so did a few others, and heard of a few who've landed stuff successfully. I'd recommend getting orals only in one package and waiting and getting oils only once that lands, and not mixed the two.

I think they would probably package it like that anyway but I didn't ask. Anyone who has any luck with overseas vendors I'm interested to hear about, especially and exclusively Evo-verified ones I want NZ to be able to click into the wider Evo global community with testosterone and have tjar as an option for lifters and self-trt guys and anyone who needs testosterone like that.

If encourage everyone to male touchdown threads when they get any type of gear though. Our NZ section is heating up and we've gained 3 new loggers in the past fortnight .

I'm going to get two vials of enanthate every month from AUStarLabs and like everything else I'll continue getting the @AuStarLabs gear tested and post threads with the batch numbers and photos so other Evo brothers & sisters can match their batch numbers to them and see if the barch has already been tested.

I still recommended getting at least one of your vials tested tho, for your own peace of mind.

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I posted the spare bottle of @AuStarLabs test propionate to another Evo logger who was keen as to try it, and he says he gets no PIP from it!!

I am jealous but good for him

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I've started warming up my oils every morning before injecting them as recommended by @LevButlerov - this has been really helping and I can't believe I wasn't already doing this. So thanks for that Lev!!

The tiny micro-needles with the IU measurements are sold by Life Forge but not available at the needle exchange.

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There are alternatives but I got them on my first time with @Life-Forge and they're perfect for the peptide fat injections and became part of my routine so I recommend getting some to try.

the liquid anadrol and dbol look sweet! seems easy to take too. some great bulkers @vanlife_gymbum

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Once you have a few weeks of heart rate and sleep trend data after adding ipamorelin you will be able to tell if it genuinely improves deep sleep or if it mainly alters dreams and wake patterns which is valuable feedback for everyone watching. I'm interested myself.

Okay dealing man! I agree that would he useful and interesting. I haven't reconstituted it yet so I can plan this out. I was comparing the heart rate monitoring to the medical device at the pharmacy and its accurate - but I dunno about the sleep stuff, how it figures out REM sleep patterns and stuff, maybe from breathing and heart rate... but I'd they're at least internally consistent with me then the data should change based on the effects of the compound

600mgs of test with eq plus future anadrol is already heavy so your choice to wait until week 8 before bringing the anadrol in is smart, but I would wait until week 10 for anadrol imo

Week 10 wouldn't be a problem at all, I already knocked out my tendency to rush with the hopefully-turinabol and am not rushing.

If things continue going well I think equipoise us going to be a yearly thing and one of the main compounds I use every year, but I've come to realise due to its nature with the undecylenate ester and the half life being crazy long that it's going to be one a year max.

In winter I'm going to experiment with deca, and try the testosterone + deca + dianabol cycle. I can't wait atcually. I love the way @Mobster talks aboit dianabol, it sounds so great but just from research I think deca is probably going to be similar to equipoise in terms of side effects and the like, I really hope I can tolerate it.

But don't get me wrong I can't wait to try the anadrol. It's a crazy milky mixture you've gotta shake up, I've been playing with it, shaking it and just spacing out waiting the clouds of anadrol dissipate.. it's tempting to just see what it tastes like, but I will wait

Plus now that @trentwin1 has already started his cycle on the same gear I can watch to see if he dies, and if he does I'll just do half his dose for my cycle

Retatrutide at 2.5mgs/week on top of that is powerful appetite and glucose control support but you've been on it so you know how it feels.

I atcually thing I'm adjusting correctly, been looking into it a bit... it did start feeling different a month or six weeks ago, and I was asking people aboit tolerance and stuff. Then I added MK-677 which I thought was perhaps making me more hungry but I experimented a bit and thing it's not that. Then I started just thinking about how I was feeling. Really it used to completely slam my appetite and I hated the thought of eating, moreso than usual, I am not into food anyway.. but it just feels like I'm giving in, it's atcually very normal eating

Had that pot of potatoes the other night for example and had a few bananas a day three days in a row and things like that. Reta just makes you feel full easier and I've associated that feeling with binging because it usually is.

But we're suppost to eat.. what I was saying aboit not eating is just joking, I don't really believe that and I think this is how we're suppost to eat. Like regularly but not tons...

Not sure if I described that properly but I think everything is on track and I'm not building a tolerance too fast or anything.

I just need to learn to eat properly now.

The warming oils trick is gold and a lot of guys never bother with it even though it instantly reduces pip and lets you run ED pins much more comfortably.

Yeah I feel really dumb man, this is obviously the way it should be done - it was more of a misunderstanding and me not clicking tho, coz when you were showing me the needle-tip trick it was winter and my gear was crashing in the mornings so I had to do it for that and just didn't make the connection that this is way easier. When I warm the enanthate I can pretty much pull the oil into the barrel in one pull, it just flows in. Probably similar inside tour muscles coming out...

Overall, by far the most detailed and best log in the EVO family!

Thanks bro! And that's by far the best reply I've ever gotten back!! I really appreciate it bro

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Enjoy the goodies! What is the best way you have found to warm your oil? I've never done it, sounds like it might be worth a try. @vanlife_gymbum

Definitely worth it man, and your labels can survive being submerged btw but there's two main ways, one I use is just putting it in hot not boiling water with a needle through the stopper - it should be in the air/dead space on the inside of the vial, it's so steam can escape and not crack the bottle:

And the other way is to get your dose into a needle and have it upside down in a glass of hot water but I haven't tried that.

But if you do this then the oil will just flow into the needle form thr vial and probably have the same effect on your muscles at thr other end

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Liquid dbol - different

Indeed! Atcually oral suspensions don't seem to be as common overseas but I'd say most sources that get gear from UGLs would have oral suspensions here, and it'll be everything in that format. Like Nolvadex and Cialis and stuff like that will also be oral suspensions.

I was hoping that would be an advantage with the drug testing machine but it appears to be the concentration that matters.

Gotta save the dianabol until winter next year but you were my main inspiration for looking into it, I love your stories about it

 

[trentwin1]

Plus now that @trentwin1 has already started his cycle on the same gear I can watch to see if he dies, and if he does I'll just do half his dose for my cycle

Good plan man Ill let you know if I die

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

nice on the n2guard. that is some good stuff! also you looked JACKED!! getting harder to find body fat to pin into @vanlife_gymbum

Thanks bro! I'll try and get some updated pics while I'm at the steamship today, the pics I take are from the public bathroom on the wharf where the council had attached a medical sharps bin to the wall at thr perfect height to rest my phone on
But you're right man it's hard to find fat on my leg now and that's why I moved to the stomach where I can kinda fold it and get it in the fat, definitely not a problem I used to think about!

 

[LevButlerov]

Definitely worth it man, and your labels can survive being submerged btw but there's two main ways, one I use is just putting it in hot not boiling water with a needle through the stopper - it should be in the air/dead space on the inside of the vial, it's so steam can escape and not crack the bottle:

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And the other way is to get your dose into a needle and have it upside down in a glass of hot water but I haven't tried that.

But if you do this then the oil will just flow into the needle form thr vial and probably have the same effect on your muscles at thr other end

Make sure you dont get it too hot @vanlife_gymbum no boil

 

[Ulter]

Thanks bro! I'll try and get some updated pics while I'm at the steamship today, the pics I take are from the public bathroom on the wharf where the council had attached a medical sharps bin to the wall at thr perfect height to rest my phone on
But you're right man it's hard to find fat on my leg now and that's why I moved to the stomach where I can kinda fold it and get it in the fat, definitely not a problem I used to think about!

Yeah, man, it's getting there.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Day 34 - Equipoise Pin Day #6
measured, calculated & app-assisted​

Today I'm back at my dole course with the other Worthy Woman. But it's not as hectic as last week because my van is now fixed. I'm writing this on the bus though, as I can't risk breaking down like that again, I owe my friend $300 for the tow. My weekly income is $325, so that is a real pain in the ass.

I didn't give training and pin details last time so thought I'd add a few now, my week is about to get busy. Due to the van problems last week I missed five days in a row of the gym, and had no power either because I was staying outside the mechanic's workshop which is a forty minute walk to the gym and same back again. So couldn't just walk over to the gym to charge up like I usually do.

I was saved by @LevButlerov 's suggestion that I add push-ups throughout my day. This has been working soo well and I'm on the third week of doing this now. Every time I get back form a walk I do 13 push-ups and do this 5 or 6 times a day. Started at 10 x 5 and now 13 x 5-6. I really think this helped me not slide back more but I also want to add more stuff like this, stuff outside of the gym to my day.

All of my weather related excuses are disappearing fast, the beach was packed and the half pipe was full. So I opened the back doors and watched girls rollerskateing but did not join them. I will soon though, felt like such a lazy loser watching from afar but ah well, the ramp will be fully open for business now the wind and rain has stopped and I have reclaimed the nearest spot, so my side door now opens directly to the start of the skate park.

I have all the gear for my whole cycle and everything has been tested apart from the oral suspensions which I'll get thr results back from the lab in a few weeks. @trentwin1 has the same anadrol from @kiwibulk and has already started his cycle so I'll be watching his progress with interest

My main stack is:

• Equipoise from @kiwibulk
• Testosterone from @AuStarLabs
• Retatrutide from @Life-Forge life
• Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk
• N2guard from Need to Build Muscle (@RoySimpson)

Monday is EQ Pin Day and yesterday was my 2nd pin at 300mg EQ and 600mg testosterone.

Moving testosterone up slowly at 100mg a month has beem working great, I was initially frustrated starting at 300mg of test but I'm glad I did now. I can't go back and experience test for the first time later, and my focus and priorities have completely changed. At that time I had been in bed for over two years.

That whole relationship with the 2nd hand record store chick was in bed. I was at the peak of my low testosterone symptoms and I didn't even really have hope. Testosterone changed everything and now when I'm doing reanalysis of all this I have to keep in mind that I had tons of problems that were way more important than lifting, that's why I didn't lift. But they're all solved now and life is good.

I've beem DM'ing a bit with our mate @kitchenaid who is getting into computer programming and has made an app to manage TRT dose schedules and calculate dose amounts.

It's called InjectBuddy - from the about section on who the app is aimed at:

People managing hormones at home need clarity, not guesswork. InjectBuddy brings clinical accuracy and a calm, modern experience to dosing decisions​

It also does peptide reconstitution calculations, so covers everything I need to calculate. Well, it does now. It was missing one thing I wanted and I made a feature request and @kitchenaid added it for me

That was this third mL --> mg tab circled. I injected 0.9ml of the Sustanon blend @kiwibulk sent me to get tested and I wanted to know exactly how many mg of total testosterone that was so I could do further calculations to see how much testosterone propionate there was.

I was hoping the little bit of prop in a Sustanon blend would fly under the radar and not hurt but I didn't get lucky that time. I want to try and experiment with phenylpropionate, TNE and suspensions next.

I love the Visual Syringe feature, it changes as you add more stuff to it and fills in - I love it. In my first log, when I introduced retatrutide I royally fucked up using one of these calculators and @toddthelineman had to walk me through retracing my steps. My junkie muscle memory had done it correctly but I have zero short term memory and in the end I'd typed it into the calculator to get screenshots wrong and missed a zero, and thought I'd had a megadose on my first time.

If you google for calculators like these like I sometimes do I'd recommend switching to his one, bookmark it or add it to your homescreen from the browser if you're on phone.

Thanks for this @kitchenaid it's badass! I sometimes help people get started with self-trt and will get the next guys to use this.

I also used InjectBuddy to run through these pins even though they're straight forward in this case:

Boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk at 200mg per ml, need 1.5ml of that.

And I've got a mL of @Life-Forge testosterone enanthate in there too. Picking up two new bottles of testosterone enanthate from @AuStarLabs this afternoon, I has to go back to Rob and tell him I failed my prop plan. He was good to me about it as he always is and sent me some enanthate straight away. I very much appreciate thank thanks brother

Another view of the shiny new Life Forge bottles:

I used a 1.5" Pin and went for the glute. I think I've mastered the glute pins with one and a half inche needles. When I first saw them I thought it was a prop... it's so long it looks like it's out of a comic book...

When I was worried about my training dropping off last week @LevButlerov said I'd just slide back into my routine and thankfully that's what's happened. On the first day back I was feeling lazy and then remembered what Lev said and got dressed and walked the 40 minutes each way to the gym and had a great session.

My weight has been wildly fluctuating. I have been eating more but still it seems extreme, goes between 72kg and 77kg. This was last night:

I told @Ulter I'd take an updated picture on the weekend, it's been a few weeks. Has come up in conversations about reta a few times lately and it's kinda hard to find older stuff so I'll post week 1, 7 and 10 here for future reference

Week 1:

Week 7:

Week 11 (two days ago)

I'm not a owner nor regular user of mirrors and haven't noticed tons of changes apart from the loose skin and veins.

I would have killed for these back when I was a junkie.. sometimes it would take an hour to hit a vein, making me late for work.

This is the most healthy I've been in my adult life and things are trending upwards. I never thought I'd be happy and sober at the same time for any useful length of time but now I'm happy when I wake up in the morning, keen to go through my morning routine.

Sleep is much better with the MC supply issues sorted out thanks to the chick at my dole course who's going to try retatrutide, she sells $50 bags of weed, which is the least dodgy option I have available at the moment since the weed doctor turned into an American oxy pill-mill grade grade scammer.

Really frustrating business scumbags are taking over the MC industry, it's becoming really negative and it's only a few years been legal. Definitely none of the advanced botanists I know have jobs in the industry, it's all just offshore money, in and out.

I'm gonna help her get some retatrutide from @Life-Forge, when I met her four weeks ago she told me she was saving up to go on a medical vacation to Turkey to get stomach stapling surgery for $7000 NZD like her Mum did.

I thought that was pretty extreme but she'd tried a lot of stuff already, but I told her all about GLP-1s and wrote her a list of stuff to look up. And I showed her my pictures from 10 weeks ago and the ones from 7 weeks after that and she's only met gaunt-face version of me and was struggling to picture me as the 10 weeks ago version... sp i guess I have changed quite a bit. The weed for reta hook-ups arrangement is good with me, my sleep issues are basically solved..

I hope it sticks but I've been putting effort into winding down properly and not using screens and sticking with my night med routine, whichis currently taking magnesium an hour before sleep, and Ibutamoren (MK-677) right when I go to crash. I dropped back to 10mg of the MK-677 as it was making me more hungry during the day I think, I'll report back in a week and see if it changes. Feels like it cuts through the reta a bit. @Life-Forge does recommend GLP-1 users stick to 10mg which seems to be good advice. I didn't make the reta connection when he was first giving me advice on dosing.

I'm all setup for sleep monitoring and heart rate during sleep too and I'm about to add ipamorelin from @Life-Forge and log the details here and hopefully see some interesting patterns

The last week at the gym has been great but simple, I'm focusing on sticking with my plan and not missing squat days. The olympic bar with 5kg plates each day is working out great for me. I feel so good after squats, and the next day.

I don't have much time in between sets, like 30 secs to a min, I should start recording the rest times too but I don't sit around and rest like maybe I should, I get puffed and tire out quicker. Most times I take a lot of time to do the reps slowly but don't rest long.

Been trying out @LevButlerov suggestion to try 15 - 20 rep range, I used to aim for 12 as that's what my PT taught me and seemed good, but been getting good results from dropping the weight and reps on the last set too. I want to learn more of these drop set type techniques.

I'm also in a privileged position being able to "superset" three machines in a row at the gym, this allows me to get away with the short rest periods. I have a good routine with three doing biceps curls, chest press and shoulder press, this works great and it's what I did last night:

Shoulder press

23kg x 20 1 rir, arms burning after!
23kg x 20 last 4 were half reps, was difficult

Chest press

23kg x 20 just a few rir, puffing a but
23 x 20 1 rir max, qas hard

Biceps curl machine

23kg x 20 2 rir
23kg x 22 to failure

Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25

And the day before was Leg Workout B or Light Leg Day:

Bar squats

2.5kg either side wasn't heavy enough to get the bar stability improvements, 5kg plates seem to be the ones for that

5kg x 15
10kg x 15
10kg 15

Leg Extension

32kg x 15 with 2 rir
32kg x 15
41kg x 15 with 1 rir, burns

Was really wobbly on my legs after this

Leg Curl

32kg x 20 felt light so did 20, now burns
46kg x 20 very near failure, legs burn

Ab Crunches

23kg x 20
23kg x 20
23kg x 20

And the day before that:

I've been aiming for 15 to 20 reps as suggested by Lev. Aiming for two sets of 20 instead of 3 sets of 12 per exercise like I usually do, as that's what my PT did and it stuck.

Did 10kg x 12 squats to warm up

Nautilus Row

23kg x 20
23kg x 20

Nautilus lat pull down

23kg x 20
32kg x 20
46kg x 25 with 3-5 rir, will start here next time

Felt this morning and last night's lat injections on the last set, but wasn't as bad as I thought, was atcually considering doing legs but I need to walk tomorrow.

Nautilus Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25 couldn't do more

Nautilus biceps curl

36kg x 12
46kg x 8 to failure

 

[toddthelineman]

mastered the glute pins with one and a half inche needles. When I first saw them I thought it was a prop...

I finally got 1.5” 25g all the way in my delt hahaha. They are scary, but there’s way more meat than it seems like.

But lately I’ve been using mostly 1” 27g and that’s probably my all time favorite

I can really see you starting to harden up now, and the veins are huge! but only a preview of what’s coming. You’re going to be the most jacked hobo around for sure. I wonder how much of your walking could convert to jogging? I used to love running so much, it was just like a drug to me I would run until I just fell in the grass and the endorphins had me feeling amazing. If I’d had steroids then I probably would’ve kept going. I only stopped because my wife was literally worried about me and I was losing too much weight.

 

[TahiBolo]

hey brother, Ty for the shout, i really appreciate that

here is my Discord if anyone wants to fire questions at me tahi_bolo is my discord username (thats my personal one so pls no D pics unless you want to.. )

also brother @vanlife_gymbum do you use dark mode on your browser? would you like me to put a site wide dark mode on there?

 

[Life-Forge]

Day 34 - Equipoise Pin Day #6
measured, calculated & app-assisted​

Today I'm back at my dole course with the other Worthy Woman. But it's not as hectic as last week because my van is now fixed. I'm writing this on the bus though, as I can't risk breaking down like that again, I owe my friend $300 for the tow. My weekly income is $325, so that is a real pain in the ass.

I didn't give training and pin details last time so thought I'd add a few now, my week is about to get busy. Due to the van problems last week I missed five days in a row of the gym, and had no power either because I was staying outside the mechanic's workshop which is a forty minute walk to the gym and same back again. So couldn't just walk over to the gym to charge up like I usually do.

I was saved by @LevButlerov 's suggestion that I add push-ups throughout my day. This has been working soo well and I'm on the third week of doing this now. Every time I get back form a walk I do 13 push-ups and do this 5 or 6 times a day. Started at 10 x 5 and now 13 x 5-6. I really think this helped me not slide back more but I also want to add more stuff like this, stuff outside of the gym to my day.

All of my weather related excuses are disappearing fast, the beach was packed and the half pipe was full. So I opened the back doors and watched girls rollerskateing but did not join them. I will soon though, felt like such a lazy loser watching from afar but ah well, the ramp will be fully open for business now the wind and rain has stopped and I have reclaimed the nearest spot, so my side door now opens directly to the start of the skate park.

I have all the gear for my whole cycle and everything has been tested apart from the oral suspensions which I'll get thr results back from the lab in a few weeks. @trentwin1 has the same anadrol from @kiwibulk and has already started his cycle so I'll be watching his progress with interest

My main stack is:

• Equipoise from @kiwibulk
• Testosterone from @AuStarLabs
• Retatrutide from @Life-Forge life
• Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk
• N2guard from Need to Build Muscle (@RoySimpson)

Monday is EQ Pin Day and yesterday was my 2nd pin at 300mg EQ and 600mg testosterone.

Moving testosterone up slowly at 100mg a month has beem working great, I was initially frustrated starting at 300mg of test but I'm glad I did now. I can't go back and experience test for the first time later, and my focus and priorities have completely changed. At that time I had been in bed for over two years.

That whole relationship with the 2nd hand record store chick was in bed. I was at the peak of my low testosterone symptoms and I didn't even really have hope. Testosterone changed everything and now when I'm doing reanalysis of all this I have to keep in mind that I had tons of problems that were way more important than lifting, that's why I didn't lift. But they're all solved now and life is good.

I've beem DM'ing a bit with our mate @kitchenaid who is getting into computer programming and has made an app to manage TRT dose schedules and calculate dose amounts.

It's called InjectBuddy - from the about section on who the app is aimed at:

People managing hormones at home need clarity, not guesswork. InjectBuddy brings clinical accuracy and a calm, modern experience to dosing decisions​

It also does peptide reconstitution calculations, so covers everything I need to calculate. Well, it does now. It was missing one thing I wanted and I made a feature request and @kitchenaid added it for me

That was this third mL --> mg tab circled. I injected 0.9ml of the Sustanon blend @kiwibulk sent me to get tested and I wanted to know exactly how many mg of total testosterone that was so I could do further calculations to see how much testosterone propionate there was.

View attachment 146156

I was hoping the little bit of prop in a Sustanon blend would fly under the radar and not hurt but I didn't get lucky that time. I want to try and experiment with phenylpropionate, TNE and suspensions next.

I love the Visual Syringe feature, it changes as you add more stuff to it and fills in - I love it. In my first log, when I introduced retatrutide I royally fucked up using one of these calculators and @toddthelineman had to walk me through retracing my steps. My junkie muscle memory had done it correctly but I have zero short term memory and in the end I'd typed it into the calculator to get screenshots wrong and missed a zero, and thought I'd had a megadose on my first time.

If you google for calculators like these like I sometimes do I'd recommend switching to his one, bookmark it or add it to your homescreen from the browser if you're on phone.

Thanks for this @kitchenaid it's badass! I sometimes help people get started with self-trt and will get the next guys to use this.

I also used InjectBuddy to run through these pins even though they're straight forward in this case:

View attachment 146193

Boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk at 200mg per ml, need 1.5ml of that.

View attachment 146202

And I've got a mL of @Life-Forge testosterone enanthate in there too. Picking up two new bottles of testosterone enanthate from @AuStarLabs this afternoon, I has to go back to Rob and tell him I failed my prop plan. He was good to me about it as he always is and sent me some enanthate straight away. I very much appreciate thank thanks brother

Another view of the shiny new Life Forge bottles:

View attachment 146212


I used a 1.5" Pin and went for the glute. I think I've mastered the glute pins with one and a half inche needles. When I first saw them I thought it was a prop... it's so long it looks like it's out of a comic book...

When I was worried about my training dropping off last week @LevButlerov said I'd just slide back into my routine and thankfully that's what's happened. On the first day back I was feeling lazy and then remembered what Lev said and got dressed and walked the 40 minutes each way to the gym and had a great session.

My weight has been wildly fluctuating. I have been eating more but still it seems extreme, goes between 72kg and 77kg. This was last night:

View attachment 146207

I told @Ulter I'd take an updated picture on the weekend, it's been a few weeks. Has come up in conversations about reta a few times lately and it's kinda hard to find older stuff so I'll post week 1, 7 and 10 here for future reference

Week 1:

View attachment 146241

Week 7:

View attachment 146242

Week 11 (two days ago)

View attachment 146243

I'm not a owner nor regular user of mirrors and haven't noticed tons of changes apart from the loose skin and veins.

I would have killed for these back when I was a junkie.. sometimes it would take an hour to hit a vein, making me late for work.

View attachment 146244

This is the most healthy I've been in my adult life and things are trending upwards. I never thought I'd be happy and sober at the same time for any useful length of time but now I'm happy when I wake up in the morning, keen to go through my morning routine.

Sleep is much better with the MC supply issues sorted out thanks to the chick at my dole course who's going to try retatrutide, she sells $50 bags of weed, which is the least dodgy option I have available at the moment since the weed doctor turned into an American oxy pill-mill grade grade scammer.

Really frustrating business scumbags are taking over the MC industry, it's becoming really negative and it's only a few years been legal. Definitely none of the advanced botanists I know have jobs in the industry, it's all just offshore money, in and out.

I'm gonna help her get some retatrutide from @Life-Forge, when I met her four weeks ago she told me she was saving up to go on a medical vacation to Turkey to get stomach stapling surgery for $7000 NZD like her Mum did.

I thought that was pretty extreme but she'd tried a lot of stuff already, but I told her all about GLP-1s and wrote her a list of stuff to look up. And I showed her my pictures from 10 weeks ago and the ones from 7 weeks after that and she's only met gaunt-face version of me and was struggling to picture me as the 10 weeks ago version... sp i guess I have changed quite a bit. The weed for reta hook-ups arrangement is good with me, my sleep issues are basically solved..

I hope it sticks but I've been putting effort into winding down properly and not using screens and sticking with my night med routine, whichis currently taking magnesium an hour before sleep, and Ibutamoren (MK-677) right when I go to crash. I dropped back to 10mg of the MK-677 as it was making me more hungry during the day I think, I'll report back in a week and see if it changes. Feels like it cuts through the reta a bit. @Life-Forge does recommend GLP-1 users stick to 10mg which seems to be good advice. I didn't make the reta connection when he was first giving me advice on dosing.

I'm all setup for sleep monitoring and heart rate during sleep too and I'm about to add ipamorelin from @Life-Forge and log the details here and hopefully see some interesting patterns

The last week at the gym has been great but simple, I'm focusing on sticking with my plan and not missing squat days. The olympic bar with 5kg plates each day is working out great for me. I feel so good after squats, and the next day.

I don't have much time in between sets, like 30 secs to a min, I should start recording the rest times too but I don't sit around and rest like maybe I should, I get puffed and tire out quicker. Most times I take a lot of time to do the reps slowly but don't rest long.

Been trying out @LevButlerov suggestion to try 15 - 20 rep range, I used to aim for 12 as that's what my PT taught me and seemed good, but been getting good results from dropping the weight and reps on the last set too. I want to learn more of these drop set type techniques.

I'm also in a privileged position being able to "superset" three machines in a row at the gym, this allows me to get away with the short rest periods. I have a good routine with three doing biceps curls, chest press and shoulder press, this works great and it's what I did last night:

Shoulder press

23kg x 20 1 rir, arms burning after!
23kg x 20 last 4 were half reps, was difficult

Chest press

23kg x 20 just a few rir, puffing a but
23 x 20 1 rir max, qas hard

Biceps curl machine

23kg x 20 2 rir
23kg x 22 to failure

Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25

And the day before was Leg Workout B or Light Leg Day:

Bar squats

2.5kg either side wasn't heavy enough to get the bar stability improvements, 5kg plates seem to be the ones for that

5kg x 15
10kg x 15
10kg 15

Leg Extension

32kg x 15 with 2 rir
32kg x 15
41kg x 15 with 1 rir, burns

Was really wobbly on my legs after this

Leg Curl

32kg x 20 felt light so did 20, now burns
46kg x 20 very near failure, legs burn

Ab Crunches

23kg x 20
23kg x 20
23kg x 20

And the day before that:

I've been aiming for 15 to 20 reps as suggested by Lev. Aiming for two sets of 20 instead of 3 sets of 12 per exercise like I usually do, as that's what my PT did and it stuck.

Did 10kg x 12 squats to warm up

Nautilus Row

23kg x 20
23kg x 20

Nautilus lat pull down

23kg x 20
32kg x 20
46kg x 25 with 3-5 rir, will start here next time

Felt this morning and last night's lat injections on the last set, but wasn't as bad as I thought, was atcually considering doing legs but I need to walk tomorrow.

Nautilus Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25 couldn't do more

Nautilus biceps curl

36kg x 12
46kg x 8 to failure

Crazy progress

 

[trentwin1]

@trentwin1 has the same anadrol from @kiwibulk and has already started his cycle so I'll be watching his progress with interest

Its great bro youll love it

 

[LevButlerov]

Day 34 - Equipoise Pin Day #6
measured, calculated & app-assisted​

Today I'm back at my dole course with the other Worthy Woman. But it's not as hectic as last week because my van is now fixed. I'm writing this on the bus though, as I can't risk breaking down like that again, I owe my friend $300 for the tow. My weekly income is $325, so that is a real pain in the ass.

I didn't give training and pin details last time so thought I'd add a few now, my week is about to get busy. Due to the van problems last week I missed five days in a row of the gym, and had no power either because I was staying outside the mechanic's workshop which is a forty minute walk to the gym and same back again. So couldn't just walk over to the gym to charge up like I usually do.

I was saved by @LevButlerov 's suggestion that I add push-ups throughout my day. This has been working soo well and I'm on the third week of doing this now. Every time I get back form a walk I do 13 push-ups and do this 5 or 6 times a day. Started at 10 x 5 and now 13 x 5-6. I really think this helped me not slide back more but I also want to add more stuff like this, stuff outside of the gym to my day.

All of my weather related excuses are disappearing fast, the beach was packed and the half pipe was full. So I opened the back doors and watched girls rollerskateing but did not join them. I will soon though, felt like such a lazy loser watching from afar but ah well, the ramp will be fully open for business now the wind and rain has stopped and I have reclaimed the nearest spot, so my side door now opens directly to the start of the skate park.

I have all the gear for my whole cycle and everything has been tested apart from the oral suspensions which I'll get thr results back from the lab in a few weeks. @trentwin1 has the same anadrol from @kiwibulk and has already started his cycle so I'll be watching his progress with interest

My main stack is:

• Equipoise from @kiwibulk
• Testosterone from @AuStarLabs
• Retatrutide from @Life-Forge life
• Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk
• N2guard from Need to Build Muscle (@RoySimpson)

Monday is EQ Pin Day and yesterday was my 2nd pin at 300mg EQ and 600mg testosterone.

Moving testosterone up slowly at 100mg a month has beem working great, I was initially frustrated starting at 300mg of test but I'm glad I did now. I can't go back and experience test for the first time later, and my focus and priorities have completely changed. At that time I had been in bed for over two years.

That whole relationship with the 2nd hand record store chick was in bed. I was at the peak of my low testosterone symptoms and I didn't even really have hope. Testosterone changed everything and now when I'm doing reanalysis of all this I have to keep in mind that I had tons of problems that were way more important than lifting, that's why I didn't lift. But they're all solved now and life is good.

I've beem DM'ing a bit with our mate @kitchenaid who is getting into computer programming and has made an app to manage TRT dose schedules and calculate dose amounts.

It's called InjectBuddy - from the about section on who the app is aimed at:

People managing hormones at home need clarity, not guesswork. InjectBuddy brings clinical accuracy and a calm, modern experience to dosing decisions​

It also does peptide reconstitution calculations, so covers everything I need to calculate. Well, it does now. It was missing one thing I wanted and I made a feature request and @kitchenaid added it for me

That was this third mL --> mg tab circled. I injected 0.9ml of the Sustanon blend @kiwibulk sent me to get tested and I wanted to know exactly how many mg of total testosterone that was so I could do further calculations to see how much testosterone propionate there was.

View attachment 146156

I was hoping the little bit of prop in a Sustanon blend would fly under the radar and not hurt but I didn't get lucky that time. I want to try and experiment with phenylpropionate, TNE and suspensions next.

I love the Visual Syringe feature, it changes as you add more stuff to it and fills in - I love it. In my first log, when I introduced retatrutide I royally fucked up using one of these calculators and @toddthelineman had to walk me through retracing my steps. My junkie muscle memory had done it correctly but I have zero short term memory and in the end I'd typed it into the calculator to get screenshots wrong and missed a zero, and thought I'd had a megadose on my first time.

If you google for calculators like these like I sometimes do I'd recommend switching to his one, bookmark it or add it to your homescreen from the browser if you're on phone.

Thanks for this @kitchenaid it's badass! I sometimes help people get started with self-trt and will get the next guys to use this.

I also used InjectBuddy to run through these pins even though they're straight forward in this case:

View attachment 146193

Boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk at 200mg per ml, need 1.5ml of that.

View attachment 146202

And I've got a mL of @Life-Forge testosterone enanthate in there too. Picking up two new bottles of testosterone enanthate from @AuStarLabs this afternoon, I has to go back to Rob and tell him I failed my prop plan. He was good to me about it as he always is and sent me some enanthate straight away. I very much appreciate thank thanks brother

Another view of the shiny new Life Forge bottles:

View attachment 146212


I used a 1.5" Pin and went for the glute. I think I've mastered the glute pins with one and a half inche needles. When I first saw them I thought it was a prop... it's so long it looks like it's out of a comic book...

When I was worried about my training dropping off last week @LevButlerov said I'd just slide back into my routine and thankfully that's what's happened. On the first day back I was feeling lazy and then remembered what Lev said and got dressed and walked the 40 minutes each way to the gym and had a great session.

My weight has been wildly fluctuating. I have been eating more but still it seems extreme, goes between 72kg and 77kg. This was last night:

View attachment 146207

I told @Ulter I'd take an updated picture on the weekend, it's been a few weeks. Has come up in conversations about reta a few times lately and it's kinda hard to find older stuff so I'll post week 1, 7 and 10 here for future reference

Week 1:

View attachment 146241

Week 7:

View attachment 146242

Week 11 (two days ago)

View attachment 146243

I'm not a owner nor regular user of mirrors and haven't noticed tons of changes apart from the loose skin and veins.

I would have killed for these back when I was a junkie.. sometimes it would take an hour to hit a vein, making me late for work.

View attachment 146244

This is the most healthy I've been in my adult life and things are trending upwards. I never thought I'd be happy and sober at the same time for any useful length of time but now I'm happy when I wake up in the morning, keen to go through my morning routine.

Sleep is much better with the MC supply issues sorted out thanks to the chick at my dole course who's going to try retatrutide, she sells $50 bags of weed, which is the least dodgy option I have available at the moment since the weed doctor turned into an American oxy pill-mill grade grade scammer.

Really frustrating business scumbags are taking over the MC industry, it's becoming really negative and it's only a few years been legal. Definitely none of the advanced botanists I know have jobs in the industry, it's all just offshore money, in and out.

I'm gonna help her get some retatrutide from @Life-Forge, when I met her four weeks ago she told me she was saving up to go on a medical vacation to Turkey to get stomach stapling surgery for $7000 NZD like her Mum did.

I thought that was pretty extreme but she'd tried a lot of stuff already, but I told her all about GLP-1s and wrote her a list of stuff to look up. And I showed her my pictures from 10 weeks ago and the ones from 7 weeks after that and she's only met gaunt-face version of me and was struggling to picture me as the 10 weeks ago version... sp i guess I have changed quite a bit. The weed for reta hook-ups arrangement is good with me, my sleep issues are basically solved..

I hope it sticks but I've been putting effort into winding down properly and not using screens and sticking with my night med routine, whichis currently taking magnesium an hour before sleep, and Ibutamoren (MK-677) right when I go to crash. I dropped back to 10mg of the MK-677 as it was making me more hungry during the day I think, I'll report back in a week and see if it changes. Feels like it cuts through the reta a bit. @Life-Forge does recommend GLP-1 users stick to 10mg which seems to be good advice. I didn't make the reta connection when he was first giving me advice on dosing.

I'm all setup for sleep monitoring and heart rate during sleep too and I'm about to add ipamorelin from @Life-Forge and log the details here and hopefully see some interesting patterns

The last week at the gym has been great but simple, I'm focusing on sticking with my plan and not missing squat days. The olympic bar with 5kg plates each day is working out great for me. I feel so good after squats, and the next day.

I don't have much time in between sets, like 30 secs to a min, I should start recording the rest times too but I don't sit around and rest like maybe I should, I get puffed and tire out quicker. Most times I take a lot of time to do the reps slowly but don't rest long.

Been trying out @LevButlerov suggestion to try 15 - 20 rep range, I used to aim for 12 as that's what my PT taught me and seemed good, but been getting good results from dropping the weight and reps on the last set too. I want to learn more of these drop set type techniques.

I'm also in a privileged position being able to "superset" three machines in a row at the gym, this allows me to get away with the short rest periods. I have a good routine with three doing biceps curls, chest press and shoulder press, this works great and it's what I did last night:

Shoulder press

23kg x 20 1 rir, arms burning after!
23kg x 20 last 4 were half reps, was difficult

Chest press

23kg x 20 just a few rir, puffing a but
23 x 20 1 rir max, qas hard

Biceps curl machine

23kg x 20 2 rir
23kg x 22 to failure

Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25

And the day before was Leg Workout B or Light Leg Day:

Bar squats

2.5kg either side wasn't heavy enough to get the bar stability improvements, 5kg plates seem to be the ones for that

5kg x 15
10kg x 15
10kg 15

Leg Extension

32kg x 15 with 2 rir
32kg x 15
41kg x 15 with 1 rir, burns

Was really wobbly on my legs after this

Leg Curl

32kg x 20 felt light so did 20, now burns
46kg x 20 very near failure, legs burn

Ab Crunches

23kg x 20
23kg x 20
23kg x 20

And the day before that:

I've been aiming for 15 to 20 reps as suggested by Lev. Aiming for two sets of 20 instead of 3 sets of 12 per exercise like I usually do, as that's what my PT did and it stuck.

Did 10kg x 12 squats to warm up

Nautilus Row

23kg x 20
23kg x 20

Nautilus lat pull down

23kg x 20
32kg x 20
46kg x 25 with 3-5 rir, will start here next time

Felt this morning and last night's lat injections on the last set, but wasn't as bad as I thought, was atcually considering doing legs but I need to walk tomorrow.

Nautilus Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25 couldn't do more

Nautilus biceps curl

36kg x 12
46kg x 8 to failure

You are much leaner in the new pics and the jump from the early log shots to week 11 is huge, veins up the arms and the loose skin tightening @vanlife_gymbum you have dropped real fat even if you do not feel very different day to day.
that wild 72 to 77 kg scale swing is mostly water from more food MK677 and the hormones, its not fat coming back.

i forget to ask you modded the salt intake right?

I love that you kept training moving through the van chaos with push ups through the day! its time to get to 15x!

gym sessions is good seems you stronger a bit, and the lat thing thats normal with lat pulls after injection.


EQ at 300 mg with test at 600 mg alongside retatrutide MK 677 is a serious stack I hope we dont crash e2 too low though.

if you are helping that girl from the course on to GLP1 make sure to dial in her diet and protein as well.

 

[flatlyne]

Week 1 to week 11 pics - the difference is bananas. What a legend

 

[BeMe]

Bro I'm halfway through the new episode I just had to stop by and say how much I'm loving it. Your attitude is infectious bro. I swear just the way you talk makes me smile. You forgot what you were gonna say again and when you said that I was crying laughing hahaha. My wife and I are gonna re listen to the first episode on our drive up north tomorrow. When I told her about you she wanted to listen. I know she won't be disappointed cuz you're hilarious haha. Lightning in a bottle is the best way to describe you lol

 

[LevButlerov]

Bro I'm halfway through the new episode I just had to stop by and say how much I'm loving it. Your attitude is infectious bro. I swear just the way you talk makes me smile. You forgot what you were gonna say again and when you said that I was crying laughing hahaha. My wife and I are gonna re listen to the first episode on our drive up north tomorrow. When I told her about you she wanted to listen. I know she won't be disappointed cuz you're hilarious haha. Lightning in a bottle is the best way to describe you lol

I'm listening to @vanlife_gymbum episode 2 again

 

[waggat]

Day 34 - Equipoise Pin Day #6
measured, calculated & app-assisted​

Today I'm back at my dole course with the other Worthy Woman. But it's not as hectic as last week because my van is now fixed. I'm writing this on the bus though, as I can't risk breaking down like that again, I owe my friend $300 for the tow. My weekly income is $325, so that is a real pain in the ass.

I didn't give training and pin details last time so thought I'd add a few now, my week is about to get busy. Due to the van problems last week I missed five days in a row of the gym, and had no power either because I was staying outside the mechanic's workshop which is a forty minute walk to the gym and same back again. So couldn't just walk over to the gym to charge up like I usually do.

I was saved by @LevButlerov 's suggestion that I add push-ups throughout my day. This has been working soo well and I'm on the third week of doing this now. Every time I get back form a walk I do 13 push-ups and do this 5 or 6 times a day. Started at 10 x 5 and now 13 x 5-6. I really think this helped me not slide back more but I also want to add more stuff like this, stuff outside of the gym to my day.

All of my weather related excuses are disappearing fast, the beach was packed and the half pipe was full. So I opened the back doors and watched girls rollerskateing but did not join them. I will soon though, felt like such a lazy loser watching from afar but ah well, the ramp will be fully open for business now the wind and rain has stopped and I have reclaimed the nearest spot, so my side door now opens directly to the start of the skate park.

I have all the gear for my whole cycle and everything has been tested apart from the oral suspensions which I'll get thr results back from the lab in a few weeks. @trentwin1 has the same anadrol from @kiwibulk and has already started his cycle so I'll be watching his progress with interest

My main stack is:

• Equipoise from @kiwibulk
• Testosterone from @AuStarLabs
• Retatrutide from @Life-Forge life
• Anadrol oral suspension from @kiwibulk
• N2guard from Need to Build Muscle (@RoySimpson)

Monday is EQ Pin Day and yesterday was my 2nd pin at 300mg EQ and 600mg testosterone.

Moving testosterone up slowly at 100mg a month has beem working great, I was initially frustrated starting at 300mg of test but I'm glad I did now. I can't go back and experience test for the first time later, and my focus and priorities have completely changed. At that time I had been in bed for over two years.

That whole relationship with the 2nd hand record store chick was in bed. I was at the peak of my low testosterone symptoms and I didn't even really have hope. Testosterone changed everything and now when I'm doing reanalysis of all this I have to keep in mind that I had tons of problems that were way more important than lifting, that's why I didn't lift. But they're all solved now and life is good.

I've beem DM'ing a bit with our mate @kitchenaid who is getting into computer programming and has made an app to manage TRT dose schedules and calculate dose amounts.

It's called InjectBuddy - from the about section on who the app is aimed at:

People managing hormones at home need clarity, not guesswork. InjectBuddy brings clinical accuracy and a calm, modern experience to dosing decisions​

It also does peptide reconstitution calculations, so covers everything I need to calculate. Well, it does now. It was missing one thing I wanted and I made a feature request and @kitchenaid added it for me

That was this third mL --> mg tab circled. I injected 0.9ml of the Sustanon blend @kiwibulk sent me to get tested and I wanted to know exactly how many mg of total testosterone that was so I could do further calculations to see how much testosterone propionate there was.

View attachment 146156

I was hoping the little bit of prop in a Sustanon blend would fly under the radar and not hurt but I didn't get lucky that time. I want to try and experiment with phenylpropionate, TNE and suspensions next.

I love the Visual Syringe feature, it changes as you add more stuff to it and fills in - I love it. In my first log, when I introduced retatrutide I royally fucked up using one of these calculators and @toddthelineman had to walk me through retracing my steps. My junkie muscle memory had done it correctly but I have zero short term memory and in the end I'd typed it into the calculator to get screenshots wrong and missed a zero, and thought I'd had a megadose on my first time.

If you google for calculators like these like I sometimes do I'd recommend switching to his one, bookmark it or add it to your homescreen from the browser if you're on phone.

Thanks for this @kitchenaid it's badass! I sometimes help people get started with self-trt and will get the next guys to use this.

I also used InjectBuddy to run through these pins even though they're straight forward in this case:

View attachment 146193

Boldenone undecylenate from @kiwibulk at 200mg per ml, need 1.5ml of that.

View attachment 146202

And I've got a mL of @Life-Forge testosterone enanthate in there too. Picking up two new bottles of testosterone enanthate from @AuStarLabs this afternoon, I has to go back to Rob and tell him I failed my prop plan. He was good to me about it as he always is and sent me some enanthate straight away. I very much appreciate thank thanks brother

Another view of the shiny new Life Forge bottles:

View attachment 146212


I used a 1.5" Pin and went for the glute. I think I've mastered the glute pins with one and a half inche needles. When I first saw them I thought it was a prop... it's so long it looks like it's out of a comic book...

When I was worried about my training dropping off last week @LevButlerov said I'd just slide back into my routine and thankfully that's what's happened. On the first day back I was feeling lazy and then remembered what Lev said and got dressed and walked the 40 minutes each way to the gym and had a great session.

My weight has been wildly fluctuating. I have been eating more but still it seems extreme, goes between 72kg and 77kg. This was last night:

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I told @Ulter I'd take an updated picture on the weekend, it's been a few weeks. Has come up in conversations about reta a few times lately and it's kinda hard to find older stuff so I'll post week 1, 7 and 10 here for future reference

Week 1:

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Week 7:

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Week 11 (two days ago)

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I'm not a owner nor regular user of mirrors and haven't noticed tons of changes apart from the loose skin and veins.

I would have killed for these back when I was a junkie.. sometimes it would take an hour to hit a vein, making me late for work.

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This is the most healthy I've been in my adult life and things are trending upwards. I never thought I'd be happy and sober at the same time for any useful length of time but now I'm happy when I wake up in the morning, keen to go through my morning routine.

Sleep is much better with the MC supply issues sorted out thanks to the chick at my dole course who's going to try retatrutide, she sells $50 bags of weed, which is the least dodgy option I have available at the moment since the weed doctor turned into an American oxy pill-mill grade grade scammer.

Really frustrating business scumbags are taking over the MC industry, it's becoming really negative and it's only a few years been legal. Definitely none of the advanced botanists I know have jobs in the industry, it's all just offshore money, in and out.

I'm gonna help her get some retatrutide from @Life-Forge, when I met her four weeks ago she told me she was saving up to go on a medical vacation to Turkey to get stomach stapling surgery for $7000 NZD like her Mum did.

I thought that was pretty extreme but she'd tried a lot of stuff already, but I told her all about GLP-1s and wrote her a list of stuff to look up. And I showed her my pictures from 10 weeks ago and the ones from 7 weeks after that and she's only met gaunt-face version of me and was struggling to picture me as the 10 weeks ago version... sp i guess I have changed quite a bit. The weed for reta hook-ups arrangement is good with me, my sleep issues are basically solved..

I hope it sticks but I've been putting effort into winding down properly and not using screens and sticking with my night med routine, whichis currently taking magnesium an hour before sleep, and Ibutamoren (MK-677) right when I go to crash. I dropped back to 10mg of the MK-677 as it was making me more hungry during the day I think, I'll report back in a week and see if it changes. Feels like it cuts through the reta a bit. @Life-Forge does recommend GLP-1 users stick to 10mg which seems to be good advice. I didn't make the reta connection when he was first giving me advice on dosing.

I'm all setup for sleep monitoring and heart rate during sleep too and I'm about to add ipamorelin from @Life-Forge and log the details here and hopefully see some interesting patterns

The last week at the gym has been great but simple, I'm focusing on sticking with my plan and not missing squat days. The olympic bar with 5kg plates each day is working out great for me. I feel so good after squats, and the next day.

I don't have much time in between sets, like 30 secs to a min, I should start recording the rest times too but I don't sit around and rest like maybe I should, I get puffed and tire out quicker. Most times I take a lot of time to do the reps slowly but don't rest long.

Been trying out @LevButlerov suggestion to try 15 - 20 rep range, I used to aim for 12 as that's what my PT taught me and seemed good, but been getting good results from dropping the weight and reps on the last set too. I want to learn more of these drop set type techniques.

I'm also in a privileged position being able to "superset" three machines in a row at the gym, this allows me to get away with the short rest periods. I have a good routine with three doing biceps curls, chest press and shoulder press, this works great and it's what I did last night:

Shoulder press

23kg x 20 1 rir, arms burning after!
23kg x 20 last 4 were half reps, was difficult

Chest press

23kg x 20 just a few rir, puffing a but
23 x 20 1 rir max, qas hard

Biceps curl machine

23kg x 20 2 rir
23kg x 22 to failure

Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25

And the day before was Leg Workout B or Light Leg Day:

Bar squats

2.5kg either side wasn't heavy enough to get the bar stability improvements, 5kg plates seem to be the ones for that

5kg x 15
10kg x 15
10kg 15

Leg Extension

32kg x 15 with 2 rir
32kg x 15
41kg x 15 with 1 rir, burns

Was really wobbly on my legs after this

Leg Curl

32kg x 20 felt light so did 20, now burns
46kg x 20 very near failure, legs burn

Ab Crunches

23kg x 20
23kg x 20
23kg x 20

And the day before that:

I've been aiming for 15 to 20 reps as suggested by Lev. Aiming for two sets of 20 instead of 3 sets of 12 per exercise like I usually do, as that's what my PT did and it stuck.

Did 10kg x 12 squats to warm up

Nautilus Row

23kg x 20
23kg x 20

Nautilus lat pull down

23kg x 20
32kg x 20
46kg x 25 with 3-5 rir, will start here next time

Felt this morning and last night's lat injections on the last set, but wasn't as bad as I thought, was atcually considering doing legs but I need to walk tomorrow.

Nautilus Ab Crunches

23kg x 25
23kg x 25 couldn't do more

Nautilus biceps curl

36kg x 12
46kg x 8 to failure

The latest update photo is awesome mate... Crazy progress!

Good to see that the van is going and you're back in the gym. Looking forward to some summertime beach photos!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

I finally got 1.5” 25g all the way in my delt hahaha. They are scary, but there’s way more meat than it seems like.

Holy shit man! How'd it go? in my mind that sounds awful but I don't really know what's in there. Just feels like with the glute it's deep but I equally as little there haha. The 1.5" is totally the way to go with glute. Thanks to @HarleyGuy for that one. I count a 1" Pin and a 1.5" the next day in mostly the same spot to be a form of rotation. When I was injecting the prop I could atcually feel the last three days worth of depots still and could feel the distance they were away from each other.

I did try to move to delt man, maybe it's a technique thing here, those and the six or so lat shots were painful from the atcual injection not later from the stuff I injected. Also nicked a vein pretty much every time, even when really trying not to. Did that happen to you?

Be nice to have an atcual refrence, lIke a medical text of some type. I'm starting to meet more people who volunteer at the exchange and use needles IM so getting access to more stuff. I'm trying to get my own set of blood draw gear. I managed to IV a 20g needle and fill a 10ml barrel pretty quick but that left quite an impression and still hasn't healed completely but a 27g with a pump of some type should be sweet.

But lately I’ve been using mostly 1” 27g and that’s probably my all time favorite

Do you run into issues with 27g for any substance? 25g is the smallest gague they have 1" tips for is 25. All the 27g are either fixed barrel or short tips. I don't have any reason to change from 25g yet but interested in hearing about it. I used to IV with 27g exclusively, those are what you can get from any pharmacy in Australia.

I can really see you starting to harden up now, and the veins are huge! but only a preview of what’s coming. You’re going to be the most jacked hobo around for sure.

Haha thanks man!

I wonder how much of your walking could convert to jogging? I used to love running so much, it was just like a drug to me I would run until I just fell in the grass and the endorphins had me feeling amazing. If I’d had steroids then I probably would’ve kept going. I only stopped because my wife was literally worried about me and I was losing too much weight.

Wow that's awesome - I have another friend who's into running and he says the same thing about the endorphins and runners high and stuff. Honestly bro I think I'm missing something you've got, I really don't think I'd be able to push myself that much, I'd give up haha. Like how it's easier to do a few sets lifting than spend half an hour on the stairmaster

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Looking forward to some summertime beach photos!

Thanks bro! Will hopefully be cooking outside soon

Spirng or Summer just didn't quite start.. there's been a few nice days but then it'll he raining sideways with galeforce winds the rest of the week...

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

also brother @vanlife_gymbum do you use dark mode on your browser? would you like me to put a site wide dark mode on there?

Yeah I do bro, completely fucked my eyes looking at CRT monitors in the dark in the 90s and I get an instant headache from white backgrounds but I use Firefox plugins to make all sites black. It's pretty standard now tho man, you can see the operating system theme (dark or light) from the user headers in their HTTP requests, so if you added that mode you could read that setting and set it on your site to match

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Bro I'm halfway through the new episode I just had to stop by and say how much I'm loving it. Your attitude is infectious bro. I swear just the way you talk makes me smile. You forgot what you were gonna say again and when you said that I was crying laughing hahaha. My wife and I are gonna re listen to the first episode on our drive up north tomorrow. When I told her about you she wanted to listen. I know she won't be disappointed cuz you're hilarious haha. Lightning in a bottle is the best way to describe you lol

Aw thanks bro! That means a lot coming from you - I appreciate it! The short term memory problems don't mix well with poor audio quality haha, sorry about that.. it was probably near gibberish with the sound cleaned up anyway haha

 

[HarleyGuy]

Holy shit man! How'd it go? in my mind that sounds awful but I don't really know what's in there. Just feels like with the glute it's deep but I equally as little there haha. The 1.5" is totally the way to go with glute. Thanks to @HarleyGuy for that one. I count a 1" Pin and a 1.5" the next day in mostly the same spot to be a form of rotation. When I was injecting the prop I could atcually feel the last three days worth of depots still and could feel the distance they were away from each other.

I did try to move to delt man, maybe it's a technique thing here, those and the six or so lat shots were painful from the atcual injection not later from the stuff I injected. Also nicked a vein pretty much every time, even when really trying not to. Did that happen to you?

Be nice to have an atcual refrence, lIke a medical text of some type. I'm starting to meet more people who volunteer at the exchange and use needles IM so getting access to more stuff. I'm trying to get my own set of blood draw gear. I managed to IV a 20g needle and fill a 10ml barrel pretty quick but that left quite an impression and still hasn't healed completely but a 27g with a pump of some type should be sweet.



Do you run into issues with 27g for any substance? 25g is the smallest gague they have 1" tips for is 25. All the 27g are either fixed barrel or short tips. I don't have any reason to change from 25g yet but interested in hearing about it. I used to IV with 27g exclusively, those are what you can get from any pharmacy in Australia.



Haha thanks man!



Wow that's awesome - I have another friend who's into running and he says the same thing about the endorphins and runners high and stuff. Honestly bro I think I'm missing something you've got, I really don't think I'd be able to push myself that much, I'd give up haha. Like how it's easier to do a few sets lifting than spend half an hour on the stairmaster

Atta boy there ya go! Knew you could go 1.5”. Deep into the muscle is the way to go bro!

 

[toddthelineman]

Holy shit man! How'd it go? in my mind that sounds awful but I don't really know what's in there

It went well! I don’t have bowling ball delts but they are prominent from the gear and they were developed when I was natty already.

Also nicked a vein pretty much every time, even when really trying not to. Did that happen to you?

I don’t know that I’ve ever nicked a vein. I e had a few jumpy injections, but it’s only ever bad in my quads. I never ever pin them anymore. I think mine are just full of nerves

managed to IV a 20g needle and fill a 10ml barrel pretty quick but that left quite an impression and still hasn't healed completely

When I give blood there are using 20s. It seems to close right up. Luckily you’ll diy you can use whatever you want

Do you run into issues with 27g for any substance? 25g is the smallest gague they have 1" tips for is 25.

27s are a bit harder to push with a 3ml syringe. 25 are always great for pushing oil. I just like the 27s because I’ve been injecting daily or near daily for like five years now. That’s a lot of pokes! Maybe it’s a bit less tissue damage, maybe?

Honestly bro I think I'm missing something you've got, I really don't think I'd be able to push myself that much

Yeah. Maybe you’re missing… mild psychosis or major childhood trauma hahaha. With endurance stuff there’s a breakthrough point. It feels horrible and you just want to stop so bad and then bam! Your body gives you free drugs!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

i forget to ask you modded the salt intake right?

Very little salt now, only when I have cans of tuna in springwater I shake it on over the top. When you're fat adapted and fully carnivore after a few months you need more salt, and you can taste it differently and I figured out a theory on how I think it works.

I think we have blasted all our taste senses so they're kinda worthless for whatever they're for, like telling us what to eat and what's poison for example. But when you don't need salt even a small amount tastes "too salty" and in these times after fat adoption when I've only had meat for months I can layer salt on and can hardly taste it. So if I aim to "salt to taste" where that's slightly before the too salty line, I feel like I'm giving my body what it's asking for.

I love that you kept training moving through the van chaos with push ups through the day! its time to get to 15x!

Just moved to 14 this week! it adds up man. And all barriers to entry are removed, you could do push-ups in an elevator if you were stuck, anywhere. It's such a great idea thanks bro, that really helped that week and I think I'd like to add more to this stuff, like small bursts of activity outside of your normal gym routine.

I'll try @stevesmi 100 situps every morning technique too

EQ at 300 mg with test at 600 mg alongside retatrutide MK 677 is a serious stack I hope we dont crash e2 too low though.

What do you think would do that man, the eq increase? I really do want to get on top of this but apart from logging so you guys can see, and monitoring my moods and stuff I don't know what more I could do. Maybe in a few months I can get bloods, I thought I could catch a long distance bus or train to one of the towns/cities where the private bloods place I found has an office.

I ended up stopping the MK-677. I think I'm too inexperienced and need to focus on the eq, week 7 of eq starts tomorrow and I think it will become more prominent very soon! It was overpowering the reta during the day even when taking it at night. When atcually trying to bulk that would be awesome I think though, I'm gonna try that on the test + deca + dbol cycle I'm going to try next winter. I'm undecided weather I'm going to try low dose reta, like 0.5mg a week or stop during the winter. I'd prefer to stop I think, to get a tolerance reset at least, but I've heard some convincing arguments for the low dose method too. Reta does quite a bit all up, it is such crazy stuff

I was atcually worried about my testosterone increase leading to more estrogen sides but so far haven't noticed much difference at all. I felt the increase from 400 to 500 tho. Very interested to hear what you have to say about this, thanks man

if you are helping that girl from the course on to GLP1 make sure to dial in her diet and protein as well.

Yeah that's genius man, I'm very glad I got that advice from you and I see others glancing over it when you tell them and feel like pointing it out again. This whole system I have going on which you helped me design is all about protien holding everything together, it's not an optional extra - I will start doing macro tracking a bit better so I can show everyone how it works, but even with the steriods I don't think I could be in this extreme deficit for this long without the protien and testosterone.

There's atcually very little talk of diet changes with BB guys when talking about reta. I was kinda lucky in that my high fat carnivore diet and drinking 2L of full fat milk a day was so incompatible with retatrutide that I had to rethink everything, which is when we started with the shake experiments

 

[BeMe]

Aw thanks bro! That means a lot coming from you - I appreciate it! The short term memory problems don't mix well with poor audio quality haha, sorry about that.. it was probably near gibberish with the sound cleaned up anyway haha

Naw it was great. My wife loved the episodes too. You have a real fun loveable personality that really shines through bro! That story about accidentally becoming registered homeless has us both dying!!!

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Naw it was great. My wife loved the episodes too. You have a real fun loveable personality that really shines through bro!

Thanks bro! I appreciate that and glad you guys liked it pretty sweet you can listen to the podcast with your wife!

That story about accidentally becoming registered homeless has us both dying!!!

The night I almost scored with a policewoman, or side swiped three parked cars.. depending on who you ask

 

[LevButlerov]

Very little salt now, only when I have cans of tuna in springwater I shake it on over the top. When you're fat adapted and fully carnivore after a few months you need more salt, and you can taste it differently and I figured out a theory on how I think it works.

I think we have blasted all our taste senses so they're kinda worthless for whatever they're for, like telling us what to eat and what's poison for example. But when you don't need salt even a small amount tastes "too salty" and in these times after fat adoption when I've only had meat for months I can layer salt on and can hardly taste it. So if I aim to "salt to taste" where that's slightly before the too salty line, I feel like I'm giving my body what it's asking for.



Just moved to 14 this week! it adds up man. And all barriers to entry are removed, you could do push-ups in an elevator if you were stuck, anywhere. It's such a great idea thanks bro, that really helped that week and I think I'd like to add more to this stuff, like small bursts of activity outside of your normal gym routine.

I'll try @stevesmi 100 situps every morning technique too



What do you think would do that man, the eq increase? I really do want to get on top of this but apart from logging so you guys can see, and monitoring my moods and stuff I don't know what more I could do. Maybe in a few months I can get bloods, I thought I could catch a long distance bus or train to one of the towns/cities where the private bloods place I found has an office.

I ended up stopping the MK-677. I think I'm too inexperienced and need to focus on the eq, week 7 of eq starts tomorrow and I think it will become more prominent very soon! It was overpowering the reta during the day even when taking it at night. When atcually trying to bulk that would be awesome I think though, I'm gonna try that on the test + deca + dbol cycle I'm going to try next winter. I'm undecided weather I'm going to try low dose reta, like 0.5mg a week or stop during the winter. I'd prefer to stop I think, to get a tolerance reset at least, but I've heard some convincing arguments for the low dose method too. Reta does quite a bit all up, it is such crazy stuff

I was atcually worried about my testosterone increase leading to more estrogen sides but so far haven't noticed much difference at all. I felt the increase from 400 to 500 tho. Very interested to hear what you have to say about this, thanks man



Yeah that's genius man, I'm very glad I got that advice from you and I see others glancing over it when you tell them and feel like pointing it out again. This whole system I have going on which you helped me design is all about protien holding everything together, it's not an optional extra - I will start doing macro tracking a bit better so I can show everyone how it works, but even with the steriods I don't think I could be in this extreme deficit for this long without the protien and testosterone.

There's atcually very little talk of diet changes with BB guys when talking about reta. I was kinda lucky in that my high fat carnivore diet and drinking 2L of full fat milk a day was so incompatible with retatrutide that I had to rethink everything, which is when we started with the shake experiments

Very little salt now, only when I have cans of tuna in springwater I shake it on over the top. When you're fat adapted and fully carnivore after a few months you need more salt, and you can taste it differently and I figured out a theory on how I think it works.

I think we have blasted all our taste senses so they're kinda worthless for whatever they're for, like telling us what to eat and what's poison for example. But when you don't need salt even a small amount tastes "too salty" and in these times after fat adoption when I've only had meat for months I can layer salt on and can hardly taste it. So if I aim to "salt to taste" where that's slightly before the too salty line, I feel like I'm giving my body what it's asking for

You do need salt, but you're saying you only have tuna with salt, how many mgs sodium ed? @vanlife_gymbum

ust moved to 14 this week! it adds up man. And all barriers to entry are removed, you could do push-ups in an elevator if you were stuck, anywhere. It's such a great idea thanks bro, that really helped that week and I think I'd like to add more to this stuff, like small bursts of activity outside of your normal gym routine.

I'll try @stevesmi 100 situps every morning technique too

I'd like to see you move to 15 push ups and add 1 squats sissy squats , deal?

What do you think would do that man, the eq increase? I really do want to get on top of this but apart from logging so you guys can see, and monitoring my moods and stuff I don't know what more I could do. Maybe in a few months I can get bloods, I thought I could catch a long distance bus or train to one of the towns/cities where the private bloods place I found has an office.

I ended up stopping the MK-677. I think I'm too inexperienced and need to focus on the eq, week 7 of eq starts tomorrow and I think it will become more prominent very soon! It was overpowering the reta during the day even when taking it at night. When atcually trying to bulk that would be awesome I think though, I'm gonna try that on the test + deca + dbol cycle I'm going to try next winter. I'm undecided weather I'm going to try low dose reta, like 0.5mg a week or stop during the winter. I'd prefer to stop I think, to get a tolerance reset at least, but I've heard some convincing arguments for the low dose method too. Reta does quite a bit all up, it is such crazy stuff

I was atcually worried about my testosterone increase leading to more estrogen sides but so far haven't noticed much difference at all. I felt the increase from 400 to 500 tho. Very interested to hear what you have to say about this, thanks man

if bloods are possible we should try at least
but higher eq doses can crash e2, thats just a fact of life but 300:600 shoudl be ok
you should stay on reta all the time, will help you long term actually, it's anti-addiction as well

Yeah that's genius man, I'm very glad I got that advice from you and I see others glancing over it when you tell them and feel like pointing it out again. This whole system I have going on which you helped me design is all about protien holding everything together, it's not an optional extra - I will start doing macro tracking a bit better so I can show everyone how it works, but even with the steriods I don't think I could be in this extreme deficit for this long without the protien and testosterone.

There's atcually very little talk of diet changes with BB guys when talking about reta. I was kinda lucky in that my high fat carnivore diet and drinking 2L of full fat milk a day was so incompatible with retatrutide that I had to rethink everything, which is when we started with the shake experiments

if you can track macros closer but really in the end its going to be in the FOOD!
im concerned now to see you gain more mass and build out.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

You do need salt, but you're saying you only have tuna with salt, how many mgs sodium ed? @vanlife_gymbum

None specifically but there's 134g pf sodium per scoop of whey powder, have at least 8 scoops of that a day. I've been broke lately and not eating but I'd say usually I'd try have tuna every 2nd day at least, and I now just shake it over not use the spoon.

First time this came up I did start shovelling a heaped teaspoon into my mouth and wash it down with apple cider vinegar but stopped when the giant spoon issue arose and haven't thought about it since.

Unless the steriods and diet (shake flavouring specifically) really mess with my sensors I think I know when I need salt, however that doesn't seem to happen anymore like it did on carnivore diet, I salted everything all day back then and my body was demanding it.

To summarise our salt related conversation so far:

American tablespoon

Adding salt on Lev advice

Massive teaspoon issue

American tablespoon

Confirmed massive

Unadding salt

Few other things happened too. When I quit vaping I also stopped being thirsty and my water intake plummeted to near 0 from 5L a day. I kinda setup my watch to remind me, but power access has been hit and miss so that's not super useful.

I never weighed it like I said I would but I have the means now. Here's the tare'd spoon on the scale:

cannot locate spoon.

I have lots of salt and different types, even got the Celtic salt (I think it was) recommended by @SPOONMAN366 - he's probably got something to do with the missing spoon.

What should I aim for @LevButlerov and anything specific that triggered you to think of that? I have a gram scale, I can just weigh it and more than happy to have it, just haven't been getting the regular body reminders I'm used to when my body needs salt.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

if you can track macros closer but really in the end its going to be in the FOOD!
im concerned now to see you gain more mass and build out.

Today is my weekly EQ Pin Day, meaning I've now completed six weeks and about to embark on the 7th. So that's 4 weeks away from week 10, where I was planning to add Anadrol.

Well, I was planning to add it sooner but you convinced me week 10 is better.

So I could use that month to plan this and acquire food and potentially lower my reta dose too. I was sort of planning to do that after this cycle but in a month of prep I could get pretty lean and then try go the other way.

I don't know man, I've never done this before and last time I thought of stopping reta I panicked, I could go back to how I was overnight I recon. That is basically what happened with the hunger from the MK-677. I did not go and eat bags of apples, let's put it that way.

 

[SPOONMAN366]

recommended by @SPOONMAN366 - he's probably got something to do with the missing spoon.

Nice work on the Celtic
And yes confirmed
I do have your spoon

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Nice work on the Celtic
And yes confirmed
I do have your spoon

And all my friends are skel-etons

 

[LevButlerov]

Today is my weekly EQ Pin Day, meaning I've now completed six weeks and about to embark on the 7th. So that's 4 weeks away from week 10, where I was planning to add Anadrol.

Well, I was planning to add it sooner but you convinced me week 10 is better.

So I could use that month to plan this and acquire food and potentially lower my reta dose too. I was sort of planning to do that after this cycle but in a month of prep I could get pretty lean and then try go the other way.

I don't know man, I've never done this before and last time I thought of stopping reta I panicked, I could go back to how I was overnight I recon. That is basically what happened with the hunger from the MK-677. I did not go and eat bags of apples, let's put it that way.

I think at this point adding anadrol is not a good idea, can we keep it off for now until your situation stabilizes? @vanlife_gymbum

maybe take time to get protein up

 

[LevButlerov]

None specifically but there's 134g pf sodium per scoop of whey powder, have at least 8 scoops of that a day. I've been broke lately and not eating but I'd say usually I'd try have tuna every 2nd day at least, and I now just shake it over not use the spoon.

First time this came up I did start shovelling a heaped teaspoon into my mouth and wash it down with apple cider vinegar but stopped when the giant spoon issue arose and haven't thought about it since.

Unless the steriods and diet (shake flavouring specifically) really mess with my sensors I think I know when I need salt, however that doesn't seem to happen anymore like it did on carnivore diet, I salted everything all day back then and my body was demanding it.

To summarise our salt related conversation so far:

American tablespoon

Adding salt on Lev advice

Massive teaspoon issue

American tablespoon

Confirmed massive

Unadding salt

Few other things happened too. When I quit vaping I also stopped being thirsty and my water intake plummeted to near 0 from 5L a day. I kinda setup my watch to remind me, but power access has been hit and miss so that's not super useful.

I never weighed it like I said I would but I have the means now. Here's the tare'd spoon on the scale:

cannot locate spoon.

I have lots of salt and different types, even got the Celtic salt (I think it was) recommended by @SPOONMAN366 - he's probably got something to do with the missing spoon.

What should I aim for @LevButlerov and anything specific that triggered you to think of that? I have a gram scale, I can just weigh it and more than happy to have it, just haven't been getting the regular body reminders I'm used to when my body needs salt.

None specifically but there's 134g pf sodium per scoop of whey powder, have at least 8 scoops of that a day. I've been broke lately and not eating but I'd say usually I'd try have tuna every 2nd day at least, and I now just shake it over not use the spoon.

First time this came up I did start shovelling a heaped teaspoon into my mouth and wash it down with apple cider vinegar but stopped when the giant spoon issue arose and haven't thought about it since.

That's fine if you're getting about 1.5 grams but you have some sodium in eggs and tuna as well right? @vanlife_gymbum
and yes dont add to much salt on top

What should I aim for @LevButlerov and anything specific that triggered you to think of that? I have a gram scale, I can just weigh it and more than happy to have it, just haven't been getting the regular body reminders I'm used to when my body needs salt.

I was more concerned about bp if we go too high and we had anadrol planned.
I would keep the sodium as is for now, you're not tired right?

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Weekly Equipoise Pin #7
1.5" pick in the glute​

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

@AuStarLabs

@Life-Forge

@kiwibulk

I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

That has tracks up them and trails along that go all around Wellington.

Tools I used today were the 5/8 tip while heating the oil vials (1) and 1.5" tip for glute injection (2) - I heated the oil and loaded 300mg of Equipoise:

Then 100mg of propionate. Forgot to see if it hurts mixed with eq and it's been a week. See if my step count goes down tomorrow

Ah damn, at the photo limit. You'll have to imagine what a 1.5" long metal pole going into my glute looks like. I got it on video if you have $20.

I ran out of time to do training log but the last three days have been amazing. Mainly doing the there machine superset and pushing the weight up heavy as recommended by @Allupfromhere - I should have done this earlier, my coach had a skill for this but he was a pro, I can't do that but the @Allupfromhere way works great, I do a warmup set, medium heavy set then as heavy as I can. Trying to add drop sets.

But yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

 

[LevButlerov]

Weekly Equipoise Pin #7
1.5" pick in the glute​

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

View attachment 148917

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

@AuStarLabs

View attachment 148923

@Life-Forge

View attachment 148924

@kiwibulk

View attachment 148925

View attachment 148926

I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

View attachment 148918

That has tracks up them and trails along that go all around Wellington.

View attachment 148922

Tools I used today were the 5/8 tip while heating the oil vials (1) and 1.5" tip for glute injection (2) - I heated the oil and loaded 300mg of Equipoise:

View attachment 148927

Then 100mg of propionate. Forgot to see if it hurts mixed with eq and it's been a week. See if my step count goes down tomorrow

View attachment 148928

Ah damn, at the photo limit. You'll have to imagine what a 1.5" long metal pole going into my glute looks like. I got it on video if you have $20.

I ran out of time to do training log but the last three days have been amazing. Mainly doing the there machine superset and pushing the weight up heavy as recommended by @Allupfromhere - I should have done this earlier, my coach had a skill for this but he was a pro, I can't do that but the @Allupfromhere way works great, I do a warmup set, medium heavy set then as heavy as I can. Trying to add drop sets.

View attachment 148954

But yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

it happens you were trying to do your best and we all make mistakes I make them every time lol @vanlife_gymbum
my main mistake was talking to @BCGains now I have to answer that joker

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

thats a good stack thick
but tell @kiwibulk to get some nice labels on it
lets get a reboot all positive

I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

waiting too

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

female empowerment thats hot, a lot of girls there?

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

We all have time management issues my brother all of us
I sit on posts and think many times. But key is efficiency so we can help all EVO brothers and sisters.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

good I love your diet high proteins till?

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

you dont have any music there?

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

women can detect high testosterone 100% its like in their nature

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

30k steps you have crazy good cardio

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

you don tneed to jog imo just walk it hard

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

legalize bzp? what is that stuff?

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

color blind? no way? thats interesting
@Dave1288499 has a good log going hes started updating you should check

ut yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

good to see a heavy leg day going
thats good volume and its not only 3x15 you killed it
you should add sissy squats to your push ups ED

 

[toddthelineman]

tell @kiwibulk to get some nice labels on it

Europharma is kinda my favorite because of the clear labels. You can really really see the oil and I like that. I don’t need an overdone attempt at looking like a medical product from a ugl. Clean and simple fine by me.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

good to see a heavy leg day going
thats good volume and its not only 3x15 you killed it
you should add sissy squats to your push ups ED

I will do thanks man! Forgot after walks yesterday but did 12 in the bathroom waiting for my phone to charge but I'll try remember going forward - I like the idea!

And nah nothing changed with protien, 400g a day baseline from 4 whey and egg shakes. Haven't missed any days, the 20 eggs and 8 scoops whey is what I 'eat' haha.

I tried this other brand whey that's $40 for 1kg, it's alright but not as good as optimum nutrition gold but it's much cheaper.

Want to add more tuna soon, I have one or two 180g cans every other day roughly but could do 2 380g cans if I tried.

What I really want to do is try use soy sauce or hot sauce or something to get down a big can of mackerel, mixed with rice. They're $2 each and if I ate the whole can it would be an extra 100g protien.

Last two weeks I've also had a bit more fruit and still doing the carb refeeds every Saturday when I'm working on the steamship. There's a nice old lady who makes sandwiches for us all day

This is her work:

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Europharma is kinda my favorite because of the clear labels. You can really really see the oil and I like that. I don’t need an overdone attempt at looking like a medical product from a ugl. Clean and simple fine by me.

Totally agree!

I'm going to get some strong clear waterproof tape and tape all the way around my vials to cover the label. After Lev taught me the hot-water oil warming method I do it with everything now. It's a massive improvement but can beat up your labels, I think the layer of tape will help.

 

[toddthelineman]

Totally agree!

I'm going to get some strong clear waterproof tape and tape all the way around my vials to cover the label. After Lev taught me the hot-water oil warming method I do it with everything now. It's a massive improvement but can beat up your labels, I think the layer of tape will help.

I have never felt the need to do this? Even when I left my gear in the truck overnight when it was cold out. I just brought it in and pinned it. Never seen crashed gear. But yeah, it wouldn’t do at all to be forgetting which vial was what hahaha

 

[stevesmi]

it happens you were trying to do your best and we all make mistakes I make them every time lol @vanlife_gymbum
my main mistake was talking to @BCGains now I have to answer that joker

thats a good stack thick
but tell @kiwibulk to get some nice labels on it
lets get a reboot all positive

waiting too

female empowerment thats hot, a lot of girls there?

We all have time management issues my brother all of us
I sit on posts and think many times. But key is efficiency so we can help all EVO brothers and sisters.

good I love your diet high proteins till?

you dont have any music there?



women can detect high testosterone 100% its like in their nature

30k steps you have crazy good cardio

you don tneed to jog imo just walk it hard

legalize bzp? what is that stuff?

color blind? no way? thats interesting
@Dave1288499 has a good log going hes started updating you should check

good to see a heavy leg day going
thats good volume and its not only 3x15 you killed it
you should add sissy squats to your push ups ED

@vanlife_gymbum that is an awesome picture. i would be swimming and fishing that beach. it looks super nice!

 

[ceo]

Weekly Equipoise Pin #7
1.5" pick in the glute​

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

View attachment 148917

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

@AuStarLabs

View attachment 148923

@Life-Forge

View attachment 148924

@kiwibulk

View attachment 148925

View attachment 148926

I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

View attachment 148918

That has tracks up them and trails along that go all around Wellington.

View attachment 148922

Tools I used today were the 5/8 tip while heating the oil vials (1) and 1.5" tip for glute injection (2) - I heated the oil and loaded 300mg of Equipoise:

View attachment 148927

Then 100mg of propionate. Forgot to see if it hurts mixed with eq and it's been a week. See if my step count goes down tomorrow

View attachment 148928

Ah damn, at the photo limit. You'll have to imagine what a 1.5" long metal pole going into my glute looks like. I got it on video if you have $20.

I ran out of time to do training log but the last three days have been amazing. Mainly doing the there machine superset and pushing the weight up heavy as recommended by @Allupfromhere - I should have done this earlier, my coach had a skill for this but he was a pro, I can't do that but the @Allupfromhere way works great, I do a warmup set, medium heavy set then as heavy as I can. Trying to add drop sets.

View attachment 148954

But yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

bros dbol and anadrol get HUGE on them. dayum those are my 2 favorites of all time. you get big! @vanlife_gymbum

 

[toddthelineman]

use soy sauce or hot sauce or something to get down a big can of mackerel, mixed with rice

Have you thought about switching up your canned seafood with sardines and oysters? Seems like that would be a good way to mitigate specific toxicities while maximizing the different nutrients. Oysters might be the one thing to give eggs a run for their money for nutrient density.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

@vanlife_gymbum that is an awesome picture. i would be swimming and fishing that beach. it looks super nice!

It really is man, for 2km in either direction from right where I am there it's zoned as a marine sanctuary and can't fish but as soon as that ends there's lots of people fishing, especially Chinese people, and there's all sorts of shell fish too.

I know where to get some and how to cook them but the main port of Wellington is right around that corner, and the port is in downtown so all the stormwater drains in the city probably drain oil and street filth into the sea and I've seen what falls off the steamship

But within an hours drive you can get to some pristine coastline and there's islands and can access the pacific ocean... I really would like to get into fishing - maybe canoeing too, and fish off that. What do you think would he the simplest way to start if I got a canoe? Would a handreel work? One of the ones with bearings and stuff - there's a fishing shop in this suburb that sells them pretty cheap.

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

Have you thought about switching up your canned seafood with sardines and oysters? Seems like that would be a good way to mitigate specific toxicities while maximizing the different nutrients. Oysters might be the one thing to give eggs a run for their money for nutrient density.

Yeah good thinking bro, I came to that conclusion too but those are far more expensive compared to tuna which is about $3 for a 180g can, and especially compared to the $2 400g can of mackerel.

Might be able to add a little bit tho, to supercharge scrambled eggs or something. You're right they're nutrient dense as fuck. That also reminds me, I was gonna look up "The Protien Form the Sea" early protien supplement that @Mobster mentioned on the podcast to me

 

[vanlife_gymbum]

bros dbol and anadrol get HUGE on them. dayum those are my 2 favorites of all time. you get big! @vanlife_gymbum

I can't wait brother!! Gonna do 50mg anadrol this time and then next cycle I'm going to try the classic testosterone + deca + dianabol bulking cycle and try get into powerlifting via a class or coach

 

[Life-Forge]

Weekly Equipoise Pin #7
1.5" pick in the glute​

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

View attachment 148917

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

@AuStarLabs

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@Life-Forge

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@kiwibulk

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I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

View attachment 148918

That has tracks up them and trails along that go all around Wellington.

View attachment 148922

Tools I used today were the 5/8 tip while heating the oil vials (1) and 1.5" tip for glute injection (2) - I heated the oil and loaded 300mg of Equipoise:

View attachment 148927

Then 100mg of propionate. Forgot to see if it hurts mixed with eq and it's been a week. See if my step count goes down tomorrow

View attachment 148928

Ah damn, at the photo limit. You'll have to imagine what a 1.5" long metal pole going into my glute looks like. I got it on video if you have $20.

I ran out of time to do training log but the last three days have been amazing. Mainly doing the there machine superset and pushing the weight up heavy as recommended by @Allupfromhere - I should have done this earlier, my coach had a skill for this but he was a pro, I can't do that but the @Allupfromhere way works great, I do a warmup set, medium heavy set then as heavy as I can. Trying to add drop sets.

View attachment 148954

But yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

I absolutely noticed the Mrs libido rising as mine did with TRT. Not much science we know of behind it, but seems to hold true anecdotally. Perhaps its the new found confidence, the way we carry ourselves etc, but overall it just seems most likely that women can detect high T.

 

[toddthelineman]

be able to add a little bit tho,

Yea, at least like a treat when you find an extra buck or two

The Protien Form the Sea" early protien supplement that @Mobster mentioned on the podcast to me

How did I miss that?! Now I have to relisten

most likely that women can detect high T.

I definitely think so too. As soon as I started before I was even showing the gains I was getting a noticeably different vibe from women.

And as the years have passed one thing for sure, waaaay more inappropriate attention and I’m having a harder time with the nice girls. It’s to the point that if having really high t all the time is really causing it I will probably stop and only take trt if I have to (probably will).

 

[kiwibogan]

I absolutely noticed the Mrs libido rising as mine did with TRT. Not much science we know of behind it, but seems to hold true anecdotally. Perhaps its the new found confidence, the way we carry ourselves etc, but overall it just seems most likely that women can detect high T.

I assume its working both ways. Behavior change and women notice it. And at the same time all people I know who used gear, say they start noticing girls they used to think were ugly, suddenly finding them cute and attractive.

 

[Mobster]

Vanlife always helping members with info on what's good!!

 

[LevButlerov]

I will do thanks man! Forgot after walks yesterday but did 12 in the bathroom waiting for my phone to charge but I'll try remember going forward - I like the idea!

And nah nothing changed with protien, 400g a day baseline from 4 whey and egg shakes. Haven't missed any days, the 20 eggs and 8 scoops whey is what I 'eat' haha.

I tried this other brand whey that's $40 for 1kg, it's alright but not as good as optimum nutrition gold but it's much cheaper.

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Want to add more tuna soon, I have one or two 180g cans every other day roughly but could do 2 380g cans if I tried.

What I really want to do is try use soy sauce or hot sauce or something to get down a big can of mackerel, mixed with rice. They're $2 each and if I ate the whole can it would be an extra 100g protien.

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Last two weeks I've also had a bit more fruit and still doing the carb refeeds every Saturday when I'm working on the steamship. There's a nice old lady who makes sandwiches for us all day

This is her work:

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I like tuna any day high protein @vanlife_gymbum and you keeping 400 grams is impressive!
add 10 squats every 15push ups can you do it?

 

[stevesmi]

It really is man, for 2km in either direction from right where I am there it's zoned as a marine sanctuary and can't fish but as soon as that ends there's lots of people fishing, especially Chinese people, and there's all sorts of shell fish too.

I know where to get some and how to cook them but the main port of Wellington is right around that corner, and the port is in downtown so all the stormwater drains in the city probably drain oil and street filth into the sea and I've seen what falls off the steamship

But within an hours drive you can get to some pristine coastline and there's islands and can access the pacific ocean... I really would like to get into fishing - maybe canoeing too, and fish off that. What do you think would he the simplest way to start if I got a canoe? Would a handreel work? One of the ones with bearings and stuff - there's a fishing shop in this suburb that sells them pretty cheap.

yeah where i am the vietnamese are the ones you watch. i will go and just watch them fish and that is how i learned so much

 

[Ulter]

Weekly Equipoise Pin #7
1.5" pick in the glute​

Apologies for the mess I made on the forum posting a half-started thread by accident yesterday, and sorry to the guys who replied there - I appreciate it and did see them and will reply some other way

I wanted to start a new thread to continue this log as this one feels tainted by mentions of the fake gear salesman SWOLE, there's fake gear in the intro picture, and I'm not taking anything in that photo anymore, like the "proviron" in the title. And the only thing cruising in this log is my testosterone dose, upwards, by 100mg a month.

I'm gonna make a thread about those drug tests but I went back to then with questions as they said there were no active compounds at all and I want to know what that means exactly, what's 'active' and what negatives do the rest have, like the filler.

I could be wrong blaming those pills but I stopped taking them because I couldn't piss properly and then within a week of stopping that went away. Shit like that happens to me regularly anyway but still I want more information. Either way, those proviron presses were fake. Who would have suspected the pills that don't stay together.

View attachment 148917

This is what I'm taking, 600mg testosterone from @AuStarLabs, 2.5mg retatrutide from @Life-Forge and 300mg equipoise from @kiwibulk.

I'm also going to add 50mg of Anadrol from @kiwibulk on week 10, in 4 weeks time. It's the same oral suspension Anadrol @trentwin1 is currently running if you're interested in the gear.

I've also changed so many things that my log just needs a reboot. But with that negativity done, there's good news! As of last week all three of my preferred sources are now verified on Evo! That was announced by @Eddie Haskell last week check it out

@AuStarLabs

View attachment 148923

@Life-Forge

View attachment 148924

@kiwibulk

View attachment 148925

View attachment 148926

I love it all. Still waiting for results from the oral suspensions but everything else has been lab tested. Also see how the equipoise label is faded a bit, that's after being in hot water 4 times, pretty impressive haha.

I have to return to my female empowerment course today and two woman have text me to make sure I'm coming... I don't want to get on the wrong side of any unemployed woman, they have all day and do more than just follow you home.

Been a week since I checked or updated my log. I've been spending my time poorly, but I guess you don't end up living at the park via good time management decisions. I should do my log first before doing other stuff.

I haven't been slacking on my diet or injection schedule though, and the gym has been insane lately. I did start going at different times but it's like everyone got hotter and started dressing better.

I have to pick a spot on the wall to stare at so I can atcually get through my sets... but they come to me. Not to talk but to bend over and do weird shit with benches which they literally drag over to in front of the machine I'm at from the other end of thr gym. It's never one at a time either, two to four, unrelated woman not there with each other.

I don't know what this is all about but sometimes you really do just want to do some Nautilus approved bicep curls and not look at hot girls. I have a new theory tho.

I was fully on board with the @LevButlerov theory of woman being able to detect high testosterone levels and be attracted to that, and there's evidence to support that all around me.

I ruled out my recent burst of regular showering as I haven't had a shower since before my van broke down I don't think, but I also can't remember what I did yesterday so may have been sooner. It's been cold and windy and raining lately but still I'm over 30,000 steps a day.

I think it might have something to do with leanness. My face is sunken in like a crackhead, I have to send regular pics to my mother so she doesn't get a shock next time she sees me. I don't like it atcually. But gotta look into this. This is the major thing that's changed with me.

Did give some thought to @toddthelineman suggestion to think about jogging a bit not just walking. I can really see how that would work, but weather or not I can is another story. I love the idea of running in general and especially trail running, that's a good life but I never got into it. I've got super flat feet and wear custom built media insoles (can't spell the word for them haha) and have broken each leg twice.

When I was 22 I had a multi week bender during this awful time when the government legalised this crap called BZP and overnight money laundering operations started on every corner, it was nuts but this was the worse drug imaginable. I think they did it on purpose so it'd fuck everyone up. Same government that gave you all K2, yay New Zealand.

Awaking from that bender was do horrific I went in search of something to make it better, and had a great idea to join the army.

And I tried to do just that, went to a fucking army base and everything. There were two questions on the first page, are you colourblind and are you flat footed? They gave me a voucher to catch the bus home

I had heard you could dodge the draft in world war two by saying you were colourblind and like half a million Christians in NZ did that and they make them cut gorse in the countryside instead. I usually dislike Christians but that's pretty badass, my fucking granddads went to Egypt and some other shitholes. They were both atcually colourblind too.

Anyway, I couldn't believe this might still be a thing and they dodged my questions about colourblindness by instead showing me how flat feet fuck your knees over time. I learnt a lot about it and it put me off running big time. It was something to do with this why I stopped playing rugby too. Always did that as a kid but stopped at 12. The Evo logger I met Dave told me tour body corrects the problem and it makes your legs stronger which sounded convincing at the time but I never looked into it.

I think I could instead run up the hills surrounding the beach suburb I live in. I'm parked at the beach now, got this one to the left:

View attachment 148918

That has tracks up them and trails along that go all around Wellington.

View attachment 148922

Tools I used today were the 5/8 tip while heating the oil vials (1) and 1.5" tip for glute injection (2) - I heated the oil and loaded 300mg of Equipoise:

View attachment 148927

Then 100mg of propionate. Forgot to see if it hurts mixed with eq and it's been a week. See if my step count goes down tomorrow

View attachment 148928

Ah damn, at the photo limit. You'll have to imagine what a 1.5" long metal pole going into my glute looks like. I got it on video if you have $20.

I ran out of time to do training log but the last three days have been amazing. Mainly doing the there machine superset and pushing the weight up heavy as recommended by @Allupfromhere - I should have done this earlier, my coach had a skill for this but he was a pro, I can't do that but the @Allupfromhere way works great, I do a warmup set, medium heavy set then as heavy as I can. Trying to add drop sets.

View attachment 148954

But yesterday was heavy leg day and I did do curls and extensions but then I just put the 5kg plates on the squat bar so 23kg bar + 10kg and could only get through 3 sets of 15.

It really fucked me up and I ended up leaving without doing calf raises again, or the heavy leg press I had planned. I'll go to the big gym next heavy leg day and start using the hacksquat again. But then half an hour later I had energy again and went out for another 8000 step walk and collapsed in bed and fell asleep for 10 hours at 7:30pm.

The hacksquat was my favourite and I progressed well on it before the fancy new gym with no hacksquat opened. Peter Jackson is bowling thr big gym as soon as the lease runs out in February so was gonna have to change anyway. Gonna start travelling to other gyms and stay near them.

heavy leg day is looking strong. keep pumping the iron and keep moving that weight! @vanlife_gymbum it's nice to see you being consistent in doing so well.