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LOLAhhh I love that feeling too..like Arnold Im cumming LOL
LOLAhhh I love that feeling too..like Arnold Im cumming LOL
Workout looks good.PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
@Warthog61 Very nice once again on this workout routine. I like the different training you're doing. You're pushing things nicely. Keep up the good work.PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
Thanks @stevesmi yeah i can feel myself progressing with my training. Food hasn't changed but will post from time to time but i feel like I have everything pretty well dialed in. Everything has begun to revolve around eating and training but i really love it. Being an addict i'm glad i could replace a bad habit for a life changing habit!@Warthog61 Very nice once again on this workout routine. I like the different training you're doing. You're pushing things nicely. Keep up the good work.
Pretty much man...that feeling that shoots from your head to toes, i'm not afraid to admit it, I LOVE THIS SHIT!Ahhh I love that feeling too..like Arnold Im cumming LOL
that is the #1 thing. you are having fun!Thanks @stevesmi yeah i can feel myself progressing with my training. Food hasn't changed but will post from time to time but i feel like I have everything pretty well dialed in. Everything has begun to revolve around eating and training but i really love it. Being an addict i'm glad i could replace a bad habit for a life changing habit!
Great job on the lateral pull downs widePM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
Heck of a job man. This is a great workout you put together. @Warthog61 The chest supported plate rows are really fun.PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
They definitely get me flowing!Heck of a job man. This is a great workout you put together. @Warthog61 The chest supported plate rows are really fun.
That's what we like to hear.They definitely get me flowing!
@Warthog61 Proud Of you man. These are good solid workouts that you're doing. You're able to really put in the volume and really get that body going.PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
Bros. mad respect how you throw around the iron. I like how you finish out with treadmill for 30 minutes as well. This a good solid workout. My favorite the face pulls. You won't go wrong. @Warthog61PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
Thanks BroBros. mad respect how you throw around the iron. I like how you finish out with treadmill for 30 minutes as well. This a good solid workout. My favorite the face pulls. You won't go wrong. @Warthog61
235 on squat very nice, hows the leg pump? @Warthog61Am treadmill 30 min speed 3.3 incline 5
PM warmup
Heel elevated barbell squats
135x12
185x10
225x7
235x6
Leg press Singles*deep
90x10
115x12
115x10
165x10
Leg extension
140x12
160x11
170x10+partials
180x8+partials
Telreadmill 30min incline 10 speed 3.4
I was walking funny. Quads were officially pumped LOL. My legs have always lagged (neglected in the past)from my upper body. They need more attention for sure!235 on squat very nice, hows the leg pump? @Warthog61
@Warthog61 incredible workout right here!PM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
bros love it!Thanks Bro
pump hardI was walking funny. Quads were officially pumped LOL. My legs have always lagged (neglected in the past)from my upper body. They need more attention for sure!
Nice session brotherPM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
@Warthog61 really nice training update. Some good numbers and great volumePM treadmill warmup
Lat pulldown wide
110x12
140x10
150x8
160x8
170x7
Chest supporter plate rowsingle arm
70x11
90x10
115x10
135x11 (up in reps?)
145x8
Incline dumbell curls
20x12
2x30x10
Face pulls
70x12
80x12
90x10
Single arm cable curls across body
30x12
40x12
50x10
50x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.6 incline 8
What we love to hear brother!!Thanks @stevesmi yeah i can feel myself progressing with my training. Food hasn't changed but will post from time to time but i feel like I have everything pretty well dialed in. Everything has begun to revolve around eating and training but i really love it. Being an addict i'm glad i could replace a bad habit for a life changing habit!
Good updateGeneral Update 12/15/2025 Starting Week 8 of cycle
I took the weekend off from training, Had to get a bunch of stuff done around the house and finish up Christmas shopping
I did the switch from 3.5 tirz and started at 1.5mg reta on Saturday. Not sure if it's in my head or not but 2 days later and it has really crushed the food noise and i fill up very quickly, may have to shrink my meals a little or spread out smaller meals. It's a good thing I have dialed in my diet, watching my digestion closely. All digestive supps are key here. Keeping an eye out for those sulfur burps. @LevButlerov
I feel like fasting could be a lot easier but concerned about not hitting my macro goals. Time will tell as i adjust
Also I don't think i have mentioned that i switched to every day injections a couple of weeks back and it seems to be going well. Smaller oil volume, quick and easy with a 27g.
I did have some acne starting on my chest and started using a cleanser and it cleared right up within days.
Still thinking of the idea of tossing in NPP next week at 150mg Wk for the final 8 weeks. I was originally thinking of running var for last 6 weeks as i have ran it before but after talking to @HarleyGuy I'm leaning towards npp. Saving the var for another time once I am a little leaner tho i do love me some var. When i sit down my stomach actually rolls in now instead of out, I think i was 25 when it did that last. I haven't checked the scale but my pants fit like fishing waders, i have to run suspenders because a belt is too uncomfortable and isn't working with my pants anymore LOL. Holding off buying new pants a little longer.
pushing the volume but shoulder press drop to 40s weight and dont go up @Warthog61Pm warmup-ROM
Dumbell shoulder press
55x12
60x11
65x9
Dumbell front chest raises
20x14
25x12
35x10
Dumbell overhead extension
4x65x10-12
Standing lat pushdowns
100x12
120x9
120x8
Lat pulldown wide grip 90° straight down and up focus
130x10
140x9
2x150x8
Dumbell hammer curls
30x14
35x14
45x10
45x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.5 incline 9
I think i've posted pics once or twice. Hasn't changedGood updateplease throw up pics of digestive aids @Warthog61
Any specific reason?pushing the volume but shoulder press drop to 40s weight and dont go up @Warthog61
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You'll get hypertrophy at higher reps with 40's without risking shoulder injury. Shoulder press isn't the movement you wanna redline the weight with.Any specific reason?
I was on conservative side but ill try 40'sYou'll get hypertrophy at higher reps with 40's without risking shoulder injury. Shoulder press isn't the movement you wanna redline the weight with.
Thoughts on this @HarleyGuy ?General Update 12/15/2025 Starting Week 8 of cycle
I took the weekend off from training, Had to get a bunch of stuff done around the house and finish up Christmas shopping
I did the switch from 3.5 tirz and started at 1.5mg reta on Saturday. Not sure if it's in my head or not but 2 days later and it has really crushed the food noise and i fill up very quickly, may have to shrink my meals a little or spread out smaller meals. It's a good thing I have dialed in my diet, watching my digestion closely. All digestive supps are key here. Keeping an eye out for those sulfur burps. @LevButlerov
I feel like fasting could be a lot easier but concerned about not hitting my macro goals. Time will tell as i adjust
Also I don't think i have mentioned that i switched to every day injections a couple of weeks back and it seems to be going well. Smaller oil volume, quick and easy with a 27g.
I did have some acne starting on my chest and started using a cleanser and it cleared right up within days.
Still thinking of the idea of tossing in NPP next week at 150mg Wk for the final 8 weeks. I was originally thinking of running var for last 6 weeks as i have ran it before but after talking to @HarleyGuy I'm leaning towards npp. Saving the var for another time once I am a little leaner tho i do love me some var. When i sit down my stomach actually rolls in now instead of out, I think i was 25 when it did that last. I haven't checked the scale but my pants fit like fishing waders, i have to run suspenders because a belt is too uncomfortable and isn't working with my pants anymore LOL. Holding off buying new pants a little longer.
Same as DM's. You were concerned about lipids and orals so don't bother with orals. You were concerned about water retention with NPP but if you keep it low dose and do ED microdosing you can mitigate that easily by having full control of your ED dose especially with a fast ester.Thoughts on this @HarleyGuy ?
That's just dirty pool LOL.Kinda tough when my biggest contractor brings in this basket to my office for Christmas........pics dont don't give its size justice. Its about 30"wide and 30" tall, filled to the bottom
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I grabbed some of the popcorn for my sonThat's just dirty pool LOL.
You won't touch it though, will you???
have a cheat meal on day offKinda tough when my biggest contractor brings in this basket to my office for Christmas........pics dont don't give its size justice. Its about 30"wide and 30" tall, filled to the bottom
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Nice workout here mate. Some good weights used by the looks of it.Pm warmup-ROM
Dumbell shoulder press
55x12
60x11
65x9
Dumbell front chest raises
20x14
25x12
35x10
Dumbell overhead extension
4x65x10-12
Standing lat pushdowns
100x12
120x9
120x8
Lat pulldown wide grip 90° straight down and up focus
130x10
140x9
2x150x8
Dumbell hammer curls
30x14
35x14
45x10
45x9
Treadmill 30min speed 3.5 incline 9
Good cardio push here, lets bump AM to 35 can you?Am cardio 25 minutes treadmill
Pm warmup
Kettlebell swings 3x
Inner/outer thigh machine
3xhalfstackx12-14 alternating
RDL singles with dumbell
3x10-14
Barbell RDL
135X12
225X10
275X10
295X8
Leg curl machine
140x14
160x10
2x160x9
Treadmill 35 min incline 15 speed 3.1
Tis the season. I got one today too lol. It's always liquor and sweets right. Can't enjoy any of it. How bout an Amazon gift card so we can buy some supplements!!!Kinda tough when my biggest contractor brings in this basket to my office for Christmas........pics dont don't give its size justice. Its about 30"wide and 30" tall, filled to the bottom
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Right!!!Tis the season. I got one today too lol. It's always liquor and sweets right. Can't enjoy any of it. How bout an Amazon gift card so we can buy some supplements!!!
Yes, i usually aim for at least 30 min but sometimes life happens and a dog decides to look like he is about to puke on my bed so it was cut a few minutes short LOL.Good cardio push here, lets bump AM to 35 can you?
If you can push over 30 on cardio time wiseYes, i usually aim for at least 30 min but sometimes life happens and a dog decides to look like he is about to puke on my bed so it was cut a few minutes short LOL.
Another thing i have noticed recently is i don't sweat as much, wondering if i should add a lottle salt on some of my meals? I don't currently use any salts, if so what kind can i sprinkle on should i try it? I was looking into redmonds real salt and it would be very minimal @LevButlerov
Like i said @LevButlerov 20 min am cardio wasnt the plan......it is always 30min minimum 2x daily. That doesnt factor in steps throuought the day either
keep us updatedLike i said @LevButlerov 20 min am cardio wasnt the plan......it is always 30min minimum 2x daily. That doesnt factor in steps throuought the day either
try to boost to 2500 and see @Warthog611600mg sodium on average. I dont add salt to anything, that is just what my food app is showing
perfect incline dumbell but no drop?4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
Dropset you mean? I dunno maybe i will sprinkle some inperfect incline dumbell but no drop?
yes dropsetDropset you mean? I dunno maybe i will sprinkle some in![]()
Just one set at a weight i can do 25 reps? Or drop 2-3 sets to failure each? Either work for me, i'm all for that blood flow and hypertrophyyes dropset1 set of 25 youll see it work
1 set drop 2 exercises 25 repsJust one set at a weight i can do 25 reps? Or drop 2-3 sets to failure each? Either work for me, i'm all for that blood flow and hypertrophy
@Warthog61 nice job hitting the cardio first thing in the morning. That is the best way to do it. You get it out of the way, and you don't feel guilty the rest of the day.4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
Bros, looking good on this workout to be honest. Single-arm cable pushdown and cable fly low-high. Good mix of exercises. No joke. @Warthog614am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
Overall workout looks good.4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
I do it in the morning because i figure its good to do fasted. Then the after lift cardio is because i just want to keep going LOL@Warthog61 nice job hitting the cardio first thing in the morning. That is the best way to do it. You get it out of the way, and you don't feel guilty the rest of the day.
No better wayI do it in the morning because i figure its good to do fasted. Then the after lift cardio is because i just want to keep going LOL
2 compound exercises or any 2?1 set drop 2 exercises 25 reps![]()
The gym is my psych ward. I get pumped before i even get there. Its the highlight of my day, aside from family of courseBros, looking good on this workout to be honest. Single-arm cable pushdown and cable fly low-high. Good mix of exercises. No joke. @Warthog61
any 2 to start off2 compound exercises or any 2?
Nice job on the afternoon warm-up and hitting the incline dumbbell pressing. @Warthog61 keep up the good work. We love it.4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
Hell yeah i'll hit it hard!any 2 to start off![]()
Nice job on the afternoon warm-up and hitting the incline dumbbell pressing. @Warthog61 keep up the good work. We love it.
half way contemplating a coach after this cycle, mainly for the diet side of things and really cut some fat. I eat pretty clean but i think a consult or something could open my eyes even more to nutrition @LevButlerovHell yeah i'll hit it hard!
@Warthog61 nice job on the cardio, nice job on the incline dumbbell press. I like this layout. The decline cable press is really on point.4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
It works! I don't do too much barbell pressing anymore. I typically stick to dumbells or plate loaded machines, i feel like i can target the chest more and less front delt, my shoulders thank me for it.@Warthog61 nice job on the cardio, nice job on the incline dumbbell press. I like this layout. The decline cable press is really on point.
That's good that you're understanding the way your body works.It works! I don't do too much barbell pressing anymore. I typically stick to dumbells or plate loaded machines, i feel like i can target the chest more and less front delt, my shoulders thank me for it.
Absolutely, without the gym, who knows where I would be, especially after my wife passed away tragically in her accident. @Warthog61The gym is my psych ward. I get pumped before i even get there. Its the highlight of my day, aside from family of course
bros haha yeah me too. only place i can throw shit and scream as a BBC without cops arresting me and choking me outThe gym is my psych ward. I get pumped before i even get there. Its the highlight of my day, aside from family of course
You can get a coach sure or you can keep going the way you've been and slowly changing in the log as you go @Warthog61half way contemplating a coach after this cycle, mainly for the diet side of things and really cut some fat. I eat pretty clean but i think a consult or something could open my eyes even more to nutrition @LevButlerov
hit it to the maxHell yeah i'll hit it hard!
@Warthog61 solid session right here bro!4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6
@Warthog61 great training man. Put in some nice work big fella4am cardio 30 minutes treadmill
Afternoon warmup
Rotator cuff work
Pec deck
3x110x12-15
Incline dumbell press
75x12
85x10
95x9
95x8
Decline cable press
50x10
2x70x10
Single arm cable pushdown
3X40x10-12
Cable fly low-high
3x40x10
Dumbell overhead extension
3x65x10-12
Lat raises with fixed ezbar
4x20x10-12
Post Cardio treadmill 35min speed 3.6 incline 6

big leg press there12/19
Am Ab work
4x planks 45 sec
x elbow to high knees 60
flutter kicks/crunches 3 sets each
PM Warmup
Standing lat pulldown
90x12
110x10
110x10
Lat pull downs
140x12
160x10
170x10
180x7
100x20
Single arm cable rows
2x50x12-14
60x10
Incline dumbell curl Wide
20x14
25x12
25x11
Rope Face pulls
70x12
80x10
90x10
high cable Single arm curl inner focus
4x40x10-12
30 min treadmill incline 8 speed 3.4
12/20
Am cardio 40 min speed 3.2 incline 14
PM Legs
RDL Singles
3x45x12
Barbell RDL
135x12
185x12
225x10
135x20
Leg press
180x12
270x12
450x10
500x8
180x25
Leg extension
140x12
160x10
170x10
30 min treadmill incline 8 speed 3.4
12/21
Fast day with some am cardio 30 min treadmill
Got hooked on Landman so i ended up binging the 1st season, haven't done that in a while!!!
i like you added npp but 150 a bit high stay at 100mgs imo @Warthog61 cable row you got to 170 good weight!Am cqrdio 30min treadmill speed 3.4 incline 5
Pm warmup
Close grip cable row
110x12
150x12
170x10
100x20
Dumbell shoulder press
3X45x14
Plate loaded chest press
180x12
270x10
320x9
270x10
180x9
90x15
Ezbar curl
50x12
60x12
60x10
50x12
Dumbell single tricep extension
15x12
20x12
Rope tricep pushdown
60x12
70x10
80x10
Treadmill 35min speed 3.5 incline 8
Started npp at 150mg weekly for 2nd half
Going to hit some legs in the am, will be on a 32 hour shift into christmas eve, kinda blows. I did have an interview on Friday, maybe a possible career change so that will be exciting. Oil and propane industry, excavating for underground tanks and delivering in winter, more of a physical job so i'm excited. Management is just too much for my patience and mental well being
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Good am push for legsAm warmup
Kettlebell swings
3 sets
sissy squats elevated heels
135x10
185x12
185x10
Squat machine
180x14
230x10
280x10
300x9
Standing calf raise
4x180x12-14
Leg extensions
140x12
160x11
170x10
180x9
Super lat raises/rev. Cable fly3 set
Treadmill 30min speed 3.3
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The calm before the storm
3 Eggs and avacadoGood am push for legswhats the sandwich there?
tasty3 Eggs and avacado
I think your dealing with low e2 sides brother, with a mixture of other things such as Reta raising your HR, but the night sweats and sleep distruption sound very low e2, I found being on a very very similar cycle, NPP masks a bit of the low e2 sides such as dry joints, but LCMS testing would be a great idea and then potentially increase test?10 week Update, it's been about 2 weeks since posting (sorry just been busy and focused with gym, work, interviewing for new job, holidays).
I did get a new job, so hopefully once i get settled in my stress level will hopefully drop being out of management.
Original cycle of 400 test 200eq still in play. I had added 150 npp at week 8 and had my e2 retested, went from 11 e2 at week 4 to 15 at week 9 so i assume the npp helped with that.
2iu gh every day, did have a jump of almost 8 lbs in one week which im sure was water retention but now back down (added dandelion root). I eat later in the evening and dose gh right before bed, lucky if i have 1.5 hours after eating before dose. Is that too close from food intake @LevButlerov ? I could try am doseage
Sleep hasn't been the greatest, i tend to sweat more at night since adding 2mg reta only thing i can think of timewise but maybe full saturation of eq? Either way some nights are better than others. When i'm not on call i will take melatonin
RHR (elevated from normal average) around 75-85.
bp has been 116/60-70
Training is consistant, stamina and endurance is amazing. 2 30-40 min cardio sessions on training days am/post workout pm.
Plan is to really cut hard after this cycle while on a trt cruise (low dose clen? Reta, trt) so i will be asking for some input on that once we get there @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @R.AP
@Dreamer
10 week Update, it's been about 2 weeks since posting (sorry just been busy and focused with gym, work, interviewing for new job, holidays).
I did get a new job, so hopefully once i get settled in my stress level will hopefully drop being out of management.
Original cycle of 400 test 200eq still in play. I had added 150 npp at week 8 and had my e2 retested, went from 11 e2 at week 4 to 15 at week 9 so i assume the npp helped with that.
2iu gh every day, did have a jump of almost 8 lbs in one week which im sure was water retention but now back down (added dandelion root). I eat later in the evening and dose gh right before bed, lucky if i have 1.5 hours after eating before dose. Is that too close from food intake @LevButlerov ? I could try am doseage
Sleep hasn't been the greatest, i tend to sweat more at night since adding 2mg reta only thing i can think of timewise but maybe full saturation of eq? Either way some nights are better than others. When i'm not on call i will take melatonin
RHR (elevated from normal average) around 75-85.
bp has been 116/60-70
Training is consistant, stamina and endurance is amazing. 2 30-40 min cardio sessions on training days am/post workout pm.
Plan is to really cut hard after this cycle while on a trt cruise (low dose clen? Reta, trt) so i will be asking for some input on that once we get there @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @R.AP
@Dreamer

Last lcms was 10 days ago where it came back 15, higher than before the npp addition. Id hate to lower eq any more than it is. Could bump gtest for last 6 weeks.I think your dealing with low e2 sides brother, with a mixture of other things such as Reta raising your HR, but the night sweats and sleep distruption sound very low e2, I found being on a very very similar cycle, NPP masks a bit of the low e2 sides such as dry joints, but LCMS testing would be a great idea and then potentially increase test?
Also, 1.5 hours after last food and GH at night is also what I am doing, is your last meal carb heavy? are you checking blood glucose?
I would bump the test man, are the rest of your bloods pretty clear?Last lcms was 10 days ago where it came back 15, higher than before the npp addition. Id hate to lower eq any more than it is. Could bump gtest for last 6 weeks.
Not super heavy with carbs post workout. I tend to load up throughout the day pre workout
Yes the rest were mid cycle, lipids were the best i have ever had honestly. I ripped a lot off of your supplement list and its been a game changer.I would bump the test man, are the rest of your bloods pretty clear?
Thats so good to hear - the supps truly work, I got my lipids back and same thing slightly low HDL but everythings looking pretty good.Yes the rest were mid cycle, lipids were the best i have ever had honestly. I ripped a lot off of your supplement list and its been a game changer.
Think like a 50-100mg boost would help? I want to recheck lcms right at week 16 because i have really enjoyed the recomp with eq and would like a starting point. Definitely going to revisit this cycle
Ill give that a go for the remainder of this cycle. Thanks for the help bro! Niacin was a big help with my HDL it got me up to 40mg/dl on cycleThats so good to hear - the supps truly work, I got my lipids back and same thing slightly low HDL but everythings looking pretty good.
I would think 100mg should do it, I think youll feel alot better on it
Happy to hear about your new job10 week Update, it's been about 2 weeks since posting (sorry just been busy and focused with gym, work, interviewing for new job, holidays).
I did get a new job, so hopefully once i get settled in my stress level will hopefully drop being out of management.
Original cycle of 400 test 200eq still in play. I had added 150 npp at week 8 and had my e2 retested, went from 11 e2 at week 4 to 15 at week 9 so i assume the npp helped with that.
2iu gh every day, did have a jump of almost 8 lbs in one week which im sure was water retention but now back down (added dandelion root). I eat later in the evening and dose gh right before bed, lucky if i have 1.5 hours after eating before dose. Is that too close from food intake @LevButlerov ? I could try am doseage
Sleep hasn't been the greatest, i tend to sweat more at night since adding 2mg reta only thing i can think of timewise but maybe full saturation of eq? Either way some nights are better than others. When i'm not on call i will take melatonin
RHR (elevated from normal average) around 75-85.
bp has been 116/60-70
Training is consistant, stamina and endurance is amazing. 2 30-40 min cardio sessions on training days am/post workout pm.
Plan is to really cut hard after this cycle while on a trt cruise (low dose clen? Reta, trt) so i will be asking for some input on that once we get there @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @R.AP
@Dreamer
You're looking good leaner!
Thanks @LevButlerov bloods were posted weeks back i just got my e2 re checked 10 days ago (all i got was e2 lcms) where it was at 15 lcms after adding npp. Not a huge jump from 11 but in the right directionHappy to hear about your new jobawesome! @Warthog61
you added npp and you have e2 jump can you share the bloods please?
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You're looking good leaner!
Happy to hear about your new jobawesome! @Warthog61
you added npp and you have e2 jump can you share the bloods please?
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You're looking good leaner!
Very low we need to bring it back up, did you test anything else? @Warthog61
Early december i did a full panel, it was postedVery low we need to bring it back up, did you test anything else? @Warthog61
I could always stick a mg of estradiol cyp? Drop proviron?Very low we need to bring it back up, did you test anything else? @Warthog61
don't inject estrogen pleaseI could always stick a mg of estradiol cyp? Drop proviron?
I'll go back checkEarly december i did a full panel, it was posted
Nov 29th and dec 1st i posted all bloods, all testing in my mediaI'll go back check
Hey brother! Thanks for the tag! When does this cycle end? I'd be keen to provide some insight when you're ready.10 week Update, it's been about 2 weeks since posting (sorry just been busy and focused with gym, work, interviewing for new job, holidays).
I did get a new job, so hopefully once i get settled in my stress level will hopefully drop being out of management.
Original cycle of 400 test 200eq still in play. I had added 150 npp at week 8 and had my e2 retested, went from 11 e2 at week 4 to 15 at week 9 so i assume the npp helped with that.
2iu gh every day, did have a jump of almost 8 lbs in one week which im sure was water retention but now back down (added dandelion root). I eat later in the evening and dose gh right before bed, lucky if i have 1.5 hours after eating before dose. Is that too close from food intake @LevButlerov ? I could try am doseage
Sleep hasn't been the greatest, i tend to sweat more at night since adding 2mg reta only thing i can think of timewise but maybe full saturation of eq? Either way some nights are better than others. When i'm not on call i will take melatonin
RHR (elevated from normal average) around 75-85.
bp has been 116/60-70
Training is consistant, stamina and endurance is amazing. 2 30-40 min cardio sessions on training days am/post workout pm.
Plan is to really cut hard after this cycle while on a trt cruise (low dose clen? Reta, trt) so i will be asking for some input on that once we get there @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @R.AP
@Dreamer
My igf-1 was at the higher range (250) before starting gh so that makes sense.Hey brother! Thanks for the tag! When does this cycle end? I'd be keen to provide some insight when you're ready.
Re your current GH dose of 2iu, it's likely that you're only sitting at the top of the reference range for IGF-1 as a result and interestingly I've seen plenty of anecdotes recently of people having sleep related issues here. Try tapering up to 3iu, and then 4iu. You should notice an improvement to your sleep quality.
Keep it PM.
Alongside that though, can you give me a rundown on everything you're doing leading up to bed time? Your latest caffeine intake? And any medication/ supps.
@LevButlerov
Hey bro! Food timing and caffeine intake all looks about right. Yeah your supplement and medication list may provide a bit of insight as well.My igf-1 was at the higher range (250) before starting gh so that makes sense.
quick daily run down
430am 30 min treadmill then ed dose of aas
530am breakfast usually oats and fruit with cinnamon and some raw honey, occasionaly grits and eggs with 12oz black coffee
900am 50g protein shake 5g creatine and either yogurt or a pack of tuna
1200pm chicken rice veggies
230pm small snack pre workout banana or dried cranberries, rice cake and some nuts. dose of liquid l-carnitine occasional scoop of a pre-workout (not new)
315-330pm warmup training with usually 30 min treadmill post workout. Scoop of aminos and 5g creatine intra
530pm dinner, usually minced beef, or ground chicken/turkey with a cup of some type of veggies dessert is another 50g protein shake, not a lot of carbs post workout, typically taper off water with dinner but still pee a few times at night, 3-6mg melatonin if i'm not on call that night
700-715pm Gh dose then i lay down
this is pretty consistent, it lands me macro wise 140 carb 250-275 protein and 40-50 fat
When i get out of work i can post my supplement schedule if that would help @R.AP ?
BreakfastHey bro! Food timing and caffeine intake all looks about right. Yeah your supplement and medication list may provide a bit of insight as well.
Limiting screen time before bed? Room is cool enough?
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