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[HarleyGuy]

Im not sorry, they all are. It's par for the course. She gives me ativan too but i havent taken it in a a while.
Thoughts on methylene blue?

Busprione PRN with Ativan. *face palm* Who does she think you are some raging psycho ready to pop off? Glad to hear you're well informed about the skill set of most General Practitioners. At least she knows Ativan is PRN and doesn't conversely have you on a benzo daily for God sake.

With methylene blue it can assist in mitochondrial repair (vs. optimization with NAD+). I'm more a fan of NAD+ if you don't think you have mitochondrial damage that needs repair and in that case SS31 is best anyway.

Methylene blue should not be taken with SSRI anti depressants like Zoloft for example (which I take); Methylene blue can inhibit the metabolism of serotonin and mess with what your anti depressants and cause serotonin syndrome. I found this out reading up on it and cross checking with the meds I'm on. There are better peptides that do what Methylene blue does and they don't make you piss blue either LOL.

 

[RoySimpson]

Warmup with kettlebell swings, aductor/abductor machine 3x3
Hack squat machine wide
90x12
130x12
180x10
180x8
90x10
Standing single leg curl machine
25x12
35x12
35x10
Barbell RDL
135x12
185x12
205x12
Cable single arm lat raises
20x12
20x12
30x12
Laying leg curl
3x90x10-12
Planks
3x 1min
Cable twist
3x3 50lbx15
Crunch machine half stack
3x30

Treadmill 35 min speed 3.1 incline 10

Carbs = 220g
Protein = 250g
Fat = 47

@Warthog61 Incredible work right here!

 

[Warthog61]

Doing Am training for the time being with new job

Warmup ROM with single arm cable work
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
2x270x12
Cable low-high
4x50x10-12
Lat raises dumbell
3x20x12
Plate load shoulder press
90x12
140x12
180x12
90x25
Pec dec
110x12
120x12
120x10
Tricep cable single
30x14
2X40x12
X-cable rev. Fly
3x20

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 7

Carb = 177g
Protein = 257g
Fat =59

 

[Warthog61]

Busprione PRN with Ativan. *face palm* Who does she think you are some raging psycho ready to pop off? Glad to hear you're well informed about the skill set of most General Practitioners. At least she knows Ativan is PRN and doesn't conversely have you on a benzo daily for God sake.

With methylene blue it can assist in mitochondrial repair (vs. optimization with NAD+). I'm more a fan of NAD+ if you don't think you have mitochondrial damage that needs repair and in that case SS31 is best anyway.

Methylene blue should not be taken with SSRI anti depressants like Zoloft for example (which I take); Methylene blue can inhibit the metabolism of serotonin and mess with what your anti depressants and cause serotonin syndrome. I found this out reading up on it and cross checking with the meds I'm on. There are better peptides that do what Methylene blue does and they don't make you piss blue either LOL.

Prolactin is 7.2ng/ml, that was before 140mg npp and on buspirone

 

[LevButlerov]

Ill just drop the buspirone then as well, she perscribed it "as needed" here is some data from the 1st night of tracking the slight dip at about 1130pm is when i woke up sweating

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you dont need to be using buspirone, not a good idea imo @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

Doing Am training for the time being with new job

Warmup ROM with single arm cable work
Incline plate loaded
180x12
230x12
2x270x12
Cable low-high
4x50x10-12
Lat raises dumbell
3x20x12
Plate load shoulder press
90x12
140x12
180x12
90x25
Pec dec
110x12
120x12
120x10
Tricep cable single
30x14
2X40x12
X-cable rev. Fly
3x20

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 7

Carb = 177g
Protein = 257g
Fat =59

good incline 230 is a win!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Prolactin is 7.2ng/ml, that was before 140mg npp and on buspirone

Ok you're fine at 7.2. When you get anything more recent let us know ASAP. When you normally would think you need the buspirone you can try glycine and valerian root together instead.

 

[R.AP]

Ill just drop the buspirone then as well, she perscribed it "as needed" here is some data from the 1st night of tracking the slight dip at about 1130pm is when i woke up sweating

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I'm sorry but your doc is a quack! Buspirone is NOT something to be taken PRN (as needed). If this is the case then let's cut that nasty Rx med and we'll try and use some natural remedies for anxiety. Buspirone is for general anxiety and needs to be taken daily to build up and saturate over several weeks (usually a month) to help control chronic ongoing generalized anxiety. It's not a PRN medication for anxiety like Xanax or Ativan. To qualify this I've been on it myself and it didn't work (years ago) and my stepson with autism is on it and takes it daily as it's intended.

Those sleep numbers look pretty standard can't see why you woke up sweating with this data.

Hahahaha I love these conversations. We were having a few this morning in the Camp chat about things doctors have said/ done/ prescribed recently. Unbelievable.

 

[Warthog61]

Warmup
Kettlebell swing/side bends 3x3
Lat pushdown
3x110x12
T-bar row
70x14
90x12
135x12
135x10
Lat pulldown
2x180x12
200x10
200x9
90x25
Incline dumbell curl
25x14
30x12
30x11
Overhead bicep cable curls
30x12
30x12
40x11
Single arm cable rows
40x14
60x12
80x12

Treadmill 35min speed 3.3 incline 7

Carbs = 198g
Protein = 253g
Fat = 59g

 

[LevButlerov]

Warmup
Kettlebell swing/side bends 3x3
Lat pushdown
3x110x12
T-bar row
70x14
90x12
135x12
135x10
Lat pulldown
2x180x12
200x10
200x9
90x25
Incline dumbell curl
25x14
30x12
30x11
Overhead bicep cable curls
30x12
30x12
40x11
Single arm cable rows
40x14
60x12
80x12

Treadmill 35min speed 3.3 incline 7

Carbs = 198g
Protein = 253g
Fat = 59g

good macros today @Warthog61 I like the lat pulls 200 and a huge 25 drop set, pumped?

 

[Warthog61]

good macros today @Warthog61 I like the lat pulls 200 and a huge 25 drop set, pumped?

Felt like i could spread my wings

 

[LevButlerov]

Felt like i could spread my wings

spread your wings and fly

 

[Warthog61]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

 

[LevButlerov]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

power volume I'd drop a few sets though

 

[Warthog61]

power volume I'd drop a few sets though

3 less than my normal drop more??

 

[LevButlerov]

3 less than my normal drop more??

3 less sets total during training add more negatives though

 

[Warthog61]

3 less sets total during training add more negatives though

Negatives as in slow downward? Thats what i have been doing eccebtric movement, sets take probably take 60 seconds minimum each I stretch deep and pause. Ive been nick walker style for past 2 months

Unless you mean something else?

 

[Warthog61]

Negatives as in slow downward? Thats what i have been doing eccebtric movement, sets take probably take 60 seconds minimum each I stretch deep and pause. Ive been nick walker style for past 2 months

Unless you mean something else?

Sometimes i will pump secondaries but typically controlled always

 

[stevesmi]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

@Warthog61 nice job on this. The warm-ups look really nice and the dumbbell chest flys and skull crushers are also really good.

 

[ceo]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

Bros, you looking good if you ask me. I like the cable fly high-low and I like the dumbbell low-high. That's good back to back. @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

Negatives as in slow downward? Thats what i have been doing eccebtric movement, sets take probably take 60 seconds minimum each I stretch deep and pause. Ive been nick walker style for past 2 months

Unless you mean something else?

Yes i mean slow down and stretch so you doing it right

 

[Mobster]

Incline plate loaded
320x7

Nice work

 

[Ulter]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

Definitely a good training routine right here. @Warthog61 I like the dumbbell low high and I like the tricep single-arm push downs.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

@Warthog61 good job on this. The warm-up is really nice. Those are some solid amounts of weights as well and good job hitting the cardio.

 

[2Thick]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

Very nice job on this. I like the dumbbell low high and I like the tricep single-arm push-down. These are good exercises. @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

Did a half ass leg shoulder workout today after putting my beagle down. Shit hits harder than losing a human relative. I hope this feeling passes and can think of the good times.

 

[floridaman1984]

Did a half ass leg shoulder workout today after putting my beagle down. Shit hits harder than losing a human relative. I hope this feeling passes and can think of the good times.View attachment 172587View attachment 172588View attachment 172589View attachment 172590

Damn bro. Sorry to hear that. It's never easy losing them.

 

[Warthog61]

Damn bro. Sorry to hear that. It's never easy losing them.

Thanks man. Its tough. Real tough on the kids, he was their 1st dog growing up with. He was awesome with them

 

[ballin2504]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

@Warthog61 great trading and cardio update man. Keep it up

 

[Warthog61]

Am treadmill 30min

Mid-day warmup/rom

Lat pushdown
3x110x10-12
Plate loaded lat pulldown
180x12
180x12
200x10
Chest supported single arm plate row
90x12
3x115x10-12
Close grip upright cable row
3x140x12
Incline dumbell curls
4x25x12
21's ezbar
20, 30, 40

Treadmill 30min

 

[LevButlerov]

Am treadmill 30min

Mid-day warmup/rom

Lat pushdown
3x110x10-12
Plate loaded lat pulldown
180x12
180x12
200x10
Chest supported single arm plate row
90x12
3x115x10-12
Close grip upright cable row
3x140x12
Incline dumbell curls
4x25x12
21's ezbar
20, 30, 40

Treadmill 30min

lat pulls big win 200!

 

[RoySimpson]

Am 30min treadmill

Pm warmup
Incline plate loaded
180x12
270x12
320x8
320x7
170x12
Dumbell chest fly
3x30x12
Skull crushers ezbar
3x90x12
Cable fly high low
50x12
60x12
70x10
70x10
Dumbell low high
25x12
30x10
30x10
Tricep single arm pushdown
40x14
50x12
60x12
70x10

Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

Carbs = 258g
Protein = 282g
Fat = 46g

@Warthog61 Solid session!

 

[Warthog61]

At 20" of snow and still going. Glad i dont have to plow snow anymore for sure.

Had the gym to myself today
2 1/2 weeks left of this amazing cycle so i am adjusting weight slightly focusing back on the squeeze with rest pause deep stretch. Slightly got away from me so getting back to basics training wise.

Its been 2 weeks since cutting npp to see if it had anything to do with my sleep disturbance so far no change @R.AP @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @toddthelineman

I may pull reta this friday for a few weeks to see if that is a contributing factor which i have seen a lot of similar cases with guys using reta, even at low doses waking at 2-3am and elevated heart rate. @LevButlerov
And i had discussed this all ready but i wanted to see if there was any change with pulling npp but so far nothing aside from not running npp Will revisit npp for sure!!!

Range of motion exercises
Pec deck
2x130x12
Incline plate load
2x180x12
230x12
250x10
Vertical chest press
110x12
130x12
180x12
Shoulder press plate loaded
90x12
2x180x12
Bent over cable fly
3x50x12
Superset bent over rev.fly/lat raises
3x20x12-15
Single arm cable tri ext
3X40x12

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 5. HR 120-130

 

[Warthog61]

 

[HarleyGuy]

At 20" of snow and still going. Glad i dont have to plow snow anymore for sure.

Had the gym to myself today
2 1/2 weeks left of this amazing cycle so i am adjusting weight slightly focusing back on the squeeze with rest pause deep stretch. Slightly got away from me so getting back to basics training wise.

Its been 2 weeks since cutting npp to see if it had anything to do with my sleep disturbance so far no change @R.AP @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @toddthelineman

I may pull reta this friday for a few weeks to see if that is a contributing factor which i have seen a lot of similar cases with guys using reta, even at low doses waking at 2-3am and elevated heart rate. @LevButlerov
And i had discussed this all ready but i wanted to see if there was any change with pulling npp but so far nothing aside from not running npp Will revisit npp for sure!!!

Range of motion exercises
Pec deck
2x130x12
Incline plate load
2x180x12
230x12
250x10
Vertical chest press
110x12
130x12
180x12
Shoulder press plate loaded
90x12
2x180x12
Bent over cable fly
3x50x12
Superset bent over rev.fly/lat raises
3x20x12-15
Single arm cable tri ext
3X40x12

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 5. HR 120-130

Nice chest workout good number of different exercises and great before and after pics wow!

As for sleep let's keep experimenting with what it could be. I'm glad you waited 2 weeks to decide on the NPP too. It might help too if you could nail down when this all started to be a big issue? Then try and remember what you had added in before.

 

[R.AP]

At 20" of snow and still going. Glad i dont have to plow snow anymore for sure.

Had the gym to myself today
2 1/2 weeks left of this amazing cycle so i am adjusting weight slightly focusing back on the squeeze with rest pause deep stretch. Slightly got away from me so getting back to basics training wise.

Its been 2 weeks since cutting npp to see if it had anything to do with my sleep disturbance so far no change @R.AP @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @toddthelineman

I may pull reta this friday for a few weeks to see if that is a contributing factor which i have seen a lot of similar cases with guys using reta, even at low doses waking at 2-3am and elevated heart rate. @LevButlerov
And i had discussed this all ready but i wanted to see if there was any change with pulling npp but so far nothing aside from not running npp Will revisit npp for sure!!!

Range of motion exercises
Pec deck
2x130x12
Incline plate load
2x180x12
230x12
250x10
Vertical chest press
110x12
130x12
180x12
Shoulder press plate loaded
90x12
2x180x12
Bent over cable fly
3x50x12
Superset bent over rev.fly/lat raises
3x20x12-15
Single arm cable tri ext
3X40x12

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 5. HR 120-130

Curious bro. Can you give me a list of all prescription medications and OTC supplements?

 

[Warthog61]

Volume is good though your macros on protein are high I think you need another 40-50 carbs @Warthog61


this is a good list actually though I would have a probiotic cap each meal

@R.AP
I have since stopped bispirone which i wasn't taking consistantly

 

[Warthog61]

Tag didnt work here is list @R.AP no longer taking buspirone, but was never consistant with it. And i switched magnesium to pm. These are supps i have been taking for a long while. This sleep issue had started when i switched from tirz to reta. But i had also started npp within 2 weeks of starting reta

 

[LevButlerov]

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Tag didnt work here is list @R.AP no longer taking buspirone, but was never consistant with it. And i switched magnesium to pm. These are supps i have been taking for a long while. This sleep issue had started when i switched from tirz to reta. But i had also started npp within 2 weeks of starting reta

Here i'll tag @R.AP for you on this. @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

At 20" of snow and still going. Glad i dont have to plow snow anymore for sure.

Had the gym to myself today
2 1/2 weeks left of this amazing cycle so i am adjusting weight slightly focusing back on the squeeze with rest pause deep stretch. Slightly got away from me so getting back to basics training wise.

Its been 2 weeks since cutting npp to see if it had anything to do with my sleep disturbance so far no change @R.AP @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @toddthelineman

I may pull reta this friday for a few weeks to see if that is a contributing factor which i have seen a lot of similar cases with guys using reta, even at low doses waking at 2-3am and elevated heart rate. @LevButlerov
And i had discussed this all ready but i wanted to see if there was any change with pulling npp but so far nothing aside from not running npp Will revisit npp for sure!!!

Range of motion exercises
Pec deck
2x130x12
Incline plate load
2x180x12
230x12
250x10
Vertical chest press
110x12
130x12
180x12
Shoulder press plate loaded
90x12
2x180x12
Bent over cable fly
3x50x12
Superset bent over rev.fly/lat raises
3x20x12-15
Single arm cable tri ext
3X40x12

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 5. HR 120-130

Good chest pump there @Warthog61 but the heart rate issue is unlikely from retatrutide
whats your electrolyte and taurine intake ed?
buspirone could cause it
have you measured your BP?

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amazing before and after a new man wow!

 

[Warthog61]

Good chest pump there @Warthog61 but the heart rate issue is unlikely from retatrutide
whats your electrolyte and taurine intake ed?
buspirone could cause it
have you measured your BP?

amazing before and after a new man wow!

Usually chug a cheap electrolyte packet with 24oz water when i wake up, other than that just what i eat, bananas, dark leafy greens, watermelon.

Taurine? None but i get the hint, will order some. Whats a standard daily dose?

Thanks man, scale hasn't moved but i see some serious difference in pics. Nice little motivation boost every 6 weeks! @LevButlerov

 

[LevButlerov]

Usually chug a cheap electrolyte packet with 24oz water when i wake up, other than that just what i eat, bananas, dark leafy greens, watermelon.

Taurine? None but i get the hint, will order some. Whats a standard daily dose?

Thanks man, scale hasn't moved but i see some serious difference in pics. Nice little motivation boost every 6 weeks! @LevButlerov

lets start with 2 grams of taurine around training lets see how you do to start @Warthog61
can you start measuring your BP ED please and posting

you really do look good in pics, night and day, EVO family love your way! @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

lets start with 2 grams of taurine around training lets see how you do to start @Warthog61
can you start measuring your BP ED please and posting

you really do look good in pics, night and day, EVO family love your way! @Warthog61

Will do, thanks man

 

[Warthog61]

lets start with 2 grams of taurine around training lets see how you do to start @Warthog61
can you start measuring your BP ED please and posting

you really do look good in pics, night and day, EVO family love your way! @Warthog61

Im also thinking @LevButlerov @R.AP ....
Could the elevated rhr and sleep issues just be the fact that my e2 has been low? I managed to get up to 22 but it sat low for the 1st half of the cycle. Bloods have been posted. @Dreamer i believe brought that up a couple weeks ago

 

[Dreamer]

Im also thinking @LevButlerov @R.AP ....
Could the elevated rhr and sleep issues just be the fact that my e2 has been low? I managed to get up to 22 but it sat low for the 1st half of the cycle. Bloods have been posted. @Dreamer i believe brought that up a couple weeks ago

I can tell you from experience, when my e2 was lowered from running bold ace, I had a e2 of 50 pmol, my rhr was like 78 and my sleep was absolute garbage. hrv was tanked, sweats all night, I still think its on the lower side, but as its coming up these things are resolving quickly

 

[LevButlerov]

Im also thinking @LevButlerov @R.AP ....
Could the elevated rhr and sleep issues just be the fact that my e2 has been low? I managed to get up to 22 but it sat low for the 1st half of the cycle. Bloods have been posted. @Dreamer i believe brought that up a couple weeks ago

It could be e2, can you start measuring BP please

 

[Warthog61]

I can tell you from experience, when my e2 was lowered from running bold ace, I had a e2 of 50 pmol, my rhr was like 78 and my sleep was absolute garbage. hrv was tanked, sweats all night, I still think its on the lower side, but as its coming up these things are resolving quickly

Pretty much same for me with similar e2 (pmol conversion) Rhr 80ish shit sleep sweats. We will find out soon as things wrap up

 

[Warthog61]

It could be e2, can you start measuring BP please

126/74 hr 79 taken at 7:34pm
I typically take bp in the AM

 

[stevesmi]

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@Warthog61 I can see a very solid transformation. Good job from dad bod to looking absolutely ripped.

 

[Mobster]

One of the guys asked about any other meds - are there any?

 

[Warthog61]

One of the guys asked about any other meds - are there any?

I answered him, but no there are not

 

[LevButlerov]

126/74 hr 79 taken at 7:34pm
I typically take bp in the AM

good bp lets keep taking it

 

[ceo]

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Bros, hell yeah, you look fantastic! Can tell the differences in the pictures, v-shape forming big time. @Warthog61

 

[Ulter]

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Tag didnt work here is list @R.AP no longer taking buspirone, but was never consistant with it. And i switched magnesium to pm. These are supps i have been taking for a long while. This sleep issue had started when i switched from tirz to reta. But i had also started npp within 2 weeks of starting reta

The lunch is looking fantastic. These are some good supplements that you put together. I've heard good things about berberine. I haven't used it in a while though. @Warthog61

 

[2Thick]

At 20" of snow and still going. Glad i dont have to plow snow anymore for sure.

Had the gym to myself today
2 1/2 weeks left of this amazing cycle so i am adjusting weight slightly focusing back on the squeeze with rest pause deep stretch. Slightly got away from me so getting back to basics training wise.

Its been 2 weeks since cutting npp to see if it had anything to do with my sleep disturbance so far no change @R.AP @HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @toddthelineman

I may pull reta this friday for a few weeks to see if that is a contributing factor which i have seen a lot of similar cases with guys using reta, even at low doses waking at 2-3am and elevated heart rate. @LevButlerov
And i had discussed this all ready but i wanted to see if there was any change with pulling npp but so far nothing aside from not running npp Will revisit npp for sure!!!

Range of motion exercises
Pec deck
2x130x12
Incline plate load
2x180x12
230x12
250x10
Vertical chest press
110x12
130x12
180x12
Shoulder press plate loaded
90x12
2x180x12
Bent over cable fly
3x50x12
Superset bent over rev.fly/lat raises
3x20x12-15
Single arm cable tri ext
3X40x12

Treadmill 40min speed 3.3 incline 5. HR 120-130

@Warthog61 good job on the range of motion exercises and incline plate load. I like this and the vertical chest press is also on point.

 

[ROIDDERS]

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Amazing job on this Chief. You are killing it. Make sure that you continue on the road that you're on. The stomach looks fantastic before and after. @Warthog61

 

[R.AP]

@R.AP
I have since stopped bispirone which i wasn't taking consistantly

Could definitely have had an impact on sleep depending on your dose timing. How long have you been off it and have you noticed an improvement in sleep since?

 

[Warthog61]

Could definitely have had an impact on sleep depending on your dose timing. How long have you been off it and have you noticed an improvement in sleep since?

I dunno probably 1 1/2 weeks. Why would that have caused sleep issues half way thru cycle? I had been on it for a year

 

[Warthog61]

I dunno probably 1 1/2 weeks. Why would that have caused sleep issues half way thru cycle? I had been on it for a year

Sleep has been an issue for the last 7ish weeks

 

[HarleyGuy]

126/74 hr 79 taken at 7:34pm
I typically take bp in the AM

Despite the sleep issues I'm really happy with this BP. RHR is good for that time of day too you've been moving around a lot anyway.

What you could do is remove one compound at a time as you finish your cycle and see if we can pinpoint anything that is the cause maybe?

I have since stopped bispirone which i wasn't taking consistantly

Very happy to read this bro I'm a huge advocate for people getting off Rx Big Pharma stuff they don't need. I'm doing it myself now.

 

[R.AP]

I dunno probably 1 1/2 weeks. Why would that have caused sleep issues half way thru cycle? I had been on it for a year

Sleep has been an issue for the last 7ish weeks

Yeah you're right. Could be an interaction between e2, progesterone, dopamine etc. from the cycle and the meds. Sleep is extremely complicated! Has it improved since stopping the medication or still cooked?

 

[Warthog61]

Yeah you're right. Could be an interaction between e2, progesterone, dopamine etc. from the cycle and the meds. Sleep is extremely complicated! Has it improved since stopping the medication or still cooked?

No change thats why im leaning towards e2, sweaty nights, higher than normal hr. Seems like low e2 sides. On trt im usually in the 40's and i dont remember having this issue

 

[Warthog61]

Despite the sleep issues I'm really happy with this BP. RHR is good for that time of day too you've been moving around a lot anyway.

What you could do is remove one compound at a time as you finish your cycle and see if we can pinpoint anything that is the cause maybe?


Very happy to read this bro I'm a huge advocate for people getting off Rx Big Pharma stuff they don't need. I'm doing it myself now.

Thanks bro, this was this morning granted about an hour after a leg workout. My normal rhr used to be 65 all the time. I have dropped the eq to 100 keeping test at 350. 2 1/2 weeks out only other compounds are reta and gh. May try a glp break once this vial is gone to give myself a hard reset, would feel nice to clean out the tubes haha. May go back to tirz for a while and see if that changes anything

as far as the gh i am getting great recovery, wish it helped with the sleep issue like i hear from others. We shall see once my e2 climbs back up

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 I can see a very solid transformation. Good job from dad bod to looking absolutely ripped.

Getting there nice and steady

 

[stevesmi]

Getting there nice and steady

which is the smart way to do it

 

[RoySimpson]

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@Warthog61 Looking great bro!

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 Looking great bro!

Thanks man, feels great seeing the difference in the mirror

 

[ballin2504]

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@Warthog61 very great work brother! You’ve made some great progress.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro, this was this morning granted about an hour after a leg workout. My normal rhr used to be 65 all the time. I have dropped the eq to 100 keeping test at 350. 2 1/2 weeks out only other compounds are reta and gh. May try a glp break once this vial is gone to give myself a hard reset, would feel nice to clean out the tubes haha. May go back to tirz for a while and see if that changes anything

as far as the gh i am getting great recovery, wish it helped with the sleep issue like i hear from others. We shall see once my e2 climbs back up
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whats the issue here? I see 87 its not that much higher @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

whats the issue here? I see 87 its not that much higher @Warthog61

It started with my sleep issue and it is not my normal rhr, am i not supposed to log here or what bro?????

 

[Warthog61]

Nice chest workout good number of different exercises and great before and after pics wow!

As for sleep let's keep experimenting with what it could be. I'm glad you waited 2 weeks to decide on the NPP too. It might help too if you could nail down when this all started to be a big issue? Then try and remember what you had added in before.

Reta and gh

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 very great work brother! You’ve made some great progress.

Thanks bro

 

[HarleyGuy]

It started with my sleep issue and it is not my normal rhr, am i not supposed to log here or what bro?????

87 could be time of day and what you've been up to prior. It's nothing to be alarmed about on cycle. Could have been after a post-carb (especially high glycemic) meal. Has it been 87 vs. 65 for long?

 

[Warthog61]

87 could be time of day and what you've been up to prior. It's nothing to be alarmed about on cycle. Could have been after a post-carb (especially high glycemic) meal. Has it been 87 vs. 65 for long?

7 weeks. Sleep issues, night sweats and higher rhr all came together. Hr does not change, it is always in the 80's now. That 87 is not a spike it is my new normal

 

[Warthog61]

87 could be time of day and what you've been up to prior. It's nothing to be alarmed about on cycle. Could have been after a post-carb (especially high glycemic) meal. Has it been 87 vs. 65 for long?

Could it be the gh?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Could it be the gh?

GH can increase heart rate over a super long period of use like years but this would be through heart growth and high doses of GH for years so it's doubtful the GH has shot your RHR up in only 7 weeks.

With your blood pressure being in check it could be electrolyte imbalances along with just simply being on steroids which can stimulate heart receptors.

 

[Warthog61]

GH can increase heart rate over a super long period of use like years but this would be through heart growth and high doses of GH for years so it's doubtful the GH has shot your RHR up in only 7 weeks.

With your blood pressure being in check it could be electrolyte imbalances along with just simply being on steroids which can stimulate heart receptors.

Cycle will be wrapping up we shall see how the rebound is. Its not a huge problem, no sleep disturbance would be nice but its not like im falling asleep at work but the better sleep the better recovery.

we shall See how i start to feel in the next few weeks going to trt. Wish i had stayed on npp for that joint support tho lol, but it was good to see if that was a contributing factor by pulling it. Trial and error

 

[Warthog61]

Lat pullover
110x12
120x12
130x10
Pec deck
2x130x14
Incline plate load press
180x12
270x10
290x10
180x15
Plate load lat pulldown close grip
140x14
180x12
200x12
Dumbell curl
25x12
30x12
35x10
Tri cable pushdown
90x12
100x12
110x12
Lat raises
4x20x16-18

30min nap

Treadmill 40 min

Am hr 84
Bp 124/68

Pm hr 86

Carbs = 246g
Protein = 279g
Fat = 55g

 

[HarleyGuy]

Cycle will be wrapping up we shall see how the rebound is. Its not a huge problem, no sleep disturbance would be nice but its not like im falling asleep at work but the better sleep the better recovery.

we shall See how i start to feel in the next few weeks going to trt. Wish i had stayed on npp for that joint support tho lol, but it was good to see if that was a contributing factor by pulling it. Trial and error

Ya bro it can take a couple years to learn the ropes on how all compounds react to us and even then as we age that can change too. Now you know though so that's great

 

[HarleyGuy]

Lat pullover
110x12
120x12
130x10
Pec deck
2x130x14
Incline plate load press
180x12
270x10
290x10
180x15
Plate load lat pulldown close grip
140x14
180x12
200x12
Dumbell curl
25x12
30x12
35x10
Tri cable pushdown
90x12
100x12
110x12
Lat raises
4x20x16-18

30min nap

Treadmill 40 min

Am hr 84
Bp 124/68

Pm hr 86

Carbs = 246g
Protein = 279g
Fat = 55g

Great workout! Nice load on the incline plate press too.

Protein looks great and you'll cut nice with those macros.

Am hr 84
Bp 124/68

Pm hr 86

Honestly if your BP is in check you're good, let's wait til end of cycle and we'll see your RHR go down with some cardio and good sleep. I'm pretty sure of it.

 

[Warthog61]

Ya bro it can take a couple years to learn the ropes on how all compounds react to us and even then as we age that can change too. Now you know though so that's great

Great workout! Nice load on the incline plate press too.

Protein looks great and you'll cut nice with those macros.


Honestly if your BP is in check you're good, let's wait til end of cycle and we'll see your RHR go down with some cardio and good sleep. I'm pretty sure of it.

Yeah thats what im thinking too. Get the e2 back up a little and run trt, i will be back to regular programming.

Scale hasnt moved but looking at my pics and in the mirror its night and day. Few weeks of trt and i will probably look even better once i shed some water weight

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah thats what im thinking too. Get the e2 back up a little and run trt, i will be back to regular programming.

Scale hasnt moved but looking at my pics and in the mirror its night and day. Few weeks of trt and i will probably look even better once i shed some water weight

Now you got it figured out bro and can breathe easy!

 

[Warthog61]

Now you got it figured out bro and can breathe easy!

Thanks for the help and confidence boost bro, i appreciate it. Always learning

 

[LevButlerov]

Lat pullover
110x12
120x12
130x10
Pec deck
2x130x14
Incline plate load press
180x12
270x10
290x10
180x15
Plate load lat pulldown close grip
140x14
180x12
200x12
Dumbell curl
25x12
30x12
35x10
Tri cable pushdown
90x12
100x12
110x12
Lat raises
4x20x16-18

30min nap

Treadmill 40 min

Am hr 84
Bp 124/68

Pm hr 86

Carbs = 246g
Protein = 279g
Fat = 55g

You should try a few drop sets I dont see much here

 

[Warthog61]

You should try a few drop sets I dont see much here

I dont do them every workout, usually on ppl days not upper/lower, they can be taxing when i am doing multiple muscle groups

 

[LevButlerov]

I dont do them every workout, usually on ppl days not upper/lower, they can be taxing when i am doing multiple muscle groups

you should do drops every training session you'll see a difference

 

[Warthog61]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

 

[LevButlerov]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

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340 on plate loaded press! huge @Warthog61

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67

 

[Kopite67]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

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Pushing some serious weights there bro. Program is nice and balanced

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks for the help and confidence boost bro, i appreciate it. Always learning

So am I bro, that's the EVO family right there!

 

[HarleyGuy]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

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Bro for low cal you're a strong dude! Solid work!

Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18

Haha very niiiiice!!!!

A touch light on macros, is what it is

I think they looked okay but what happened with the water? Can you guy one of those bigass jugs with the lines on them for time of day so you know you have to drink that much before x-o'clock if you know what I mean?

 

[Dreamer]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

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Solid training brother - on low cal too

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Nice training ! moving some weight

 

[Warthog61]

Bro for low cal you're a strong dude! Solid work!


Haha very niiiiice!!!!


I think they looked okay but what happened with the water? Can you guy one of those bigass jugs with the lines on them for time of day so you know you have to drink that much before x-o'clock if you know what I mean?

I simply just dont track water on this app because i know i drink a minimum of 150oz of water a day not including preworkout and protein shakes

 

[Warthog61]

Pushing some serious weights there bro. Program is nice and balanced

Thanks bro!

 

[Warthog61]

Nice training ! moving some weight

Some days the moons are aligned just right and i can push. Progressing nicely thanks bro!

 

[Warthog61]

Solid training brother - on low cal too

I feel good so gotta take advantage of it!

 

[waggat]

30min AM treadmill

Warmup after work
Range of motion work
Pec deck
2x100x12
Incline plate loaded press
180x12
270x10
320x9
340x6
180x11
90x14
Incline dumbell fly
3x25x10-14
Ez-bar skull crushers
80x12
2x90x12
60x18
Cable low-high
30x12
40x12
50x11
X cable tricep extension
20x14
30x14
40x12
Pec deck finisher
110x10
120x10
130x9

All controlled negatives-pause and explode

A touch light on macros, is what it is

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Nice chest and tri workout mate. 340 on machine press is awesome. Love the ramp up to the top set and then are they drop sets or back off sets after that?

 

[Warthog61]

Nice chest and tri workout mate. 340 on machine press is awesome. Love the ramp up to the top set and then are they drop sets or back off sets after that?

Somewhat drop sets, stuff feels heavy after the top crest haha

 

[Warthog61]

Am warmup
Kettlebell swings
Cable lat pushdown
100x12
110x12
120x10
Tbar row wide grip
70x12
90x12
135x12
45x15
Plate loaded lat pulldown
130x12
180x12
230x10
250x10
130x18 (semi fast last set pump)
Preacher curl with ezbar close grip
3x60x10-14
Overhead bicep single arm cable curl
30x14
40x12
50x12
20x20 pump
Planks
3x1min
Crunch machine
4x25x3/4 stack
cable baseball swings(twists)
4x40


Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7
avg.HR 124
Avg. RHR 82
BP @ 4pm 123/71

Carbs = 313g
Protein = 241g
Fat = 50g