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[Kopite67]

Am warmup
Kettlebell swings
Cable lat pushdown
100x12
110x12
120x10
Tbar row wide grip
70x12
90x12
135x12
45x15
Plate loaded lat pulldown
130x12
180x12
230x10
250x10
130x18 (semi fast last set pump)
Preacher curl with ezbar close grip
3x60x10-14
Overhead bicep single arm cable curl
30x14
40x12
50x12
20x20 pump
Planks
3x1min
Crunch machine
4x25x3/4 stack
cable baseball swings(twists)
4x40


Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7
avg.HR 124
Avg. RHR 82
BP @ 4pm 123/71

Carbs = 313g
Protein = 241g
Fat = 50g

Epic amount of work and volume going down brother. Loving the updates

 

[Warthog61]

Epic amount of work and volume going down brother. Loving the updates

Thanks bro. My body feels good but mentally i feel like a need a deload week, havent had one in a long time

 

[LevButlerov]

Am warmup
Kettlebell swings
Cable lat pushdown
100x12
110x12
120x10
Tbar row wide grip
70x12
90x12
135x12
45x15
Plate loaded lat pulldown
130x12
180x12
230x10
250x10
130x18 (semi fast last set pump)
Preacher curl with ezbar close grip
3x60x10-14
Overhead bicep single arm cable curl
30x14
40x12
50x12
20x20 pump
Planks
3x1min
Crunch machine
4x25x3/4 stack
cable baseball swings(twists)
4x40


Treadmill 30min speed 3.4 incline 7
avg.HR 124
Avg. RHR 82
BP @ 4pm 123/71

Carbs = 313g
Protein = 241g
Fat = 50g

250 lat pull you're a beast

 

[Warthog61]

250 lat pull you're a beast

Yeah my brain is telling me to get off the throttle a little so next week cycle is wrapping up and i'm going to do a deload week.

Rewards have been great so i don't want to push the risk

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah my brain is telling me to get off the throttle a little so next week cycle is wrapping up and i'm going to do a deload week.

Rewards have been great so i don't want to push the risk

start deloading a bit

 

[waggat]

Yeah my brain is telling me to get off the throttle a little so next week cycle is wrapping up and i'm going to do a deload week.

Rewards have been great so i don't want to push the risk

If you're thinking it then it's likely needed. For me it's usually around every 8 weeks. My method it to back-off the weight for my top set(s) by about 15% and maybe cut some volume here and there.

 

[Warthog61]

If you're thinking it then it's likely needed. For me it's usually around every 8 weeks. My method it to back-off the weight for my top set(s) by about 15% and maybe cut some volume here and there.

That sounds like a good way of doing it brother. Thanks, i will give that a shot.

Yeah my brain is telling my body i'm not 25 anymore, even though my muscles want more i feel like thats when injuries can happen so i gotta stay smart about this for sure

 

[waggat]

That sounds like a good way of doing it brother. Thanks, i will give that a shot.

Yeah my brain is telling my body i'm not 25 anymore, even though my muscles want more i feel like thats when injuries can happen so i gotta stay smart about this for sure

The more experienced and stronger you get the more careful you have to be as well. When you start out your CNS is so inefficient you can't really push hard enough for deep fatigue (muscle soreness a different issue).

 

[Warthog61]

The more experienced and stronger you get the more careful you have to be as well. When you start out your CNS is so inefficient you can't really push hard enough for deep fatigue (muscle soreness a different issue).

Thanks for the pointers man!

 

[Warthog61]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

 

[Kopite67]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

Pushing some nice weights around there bro. Awesome that your HR is in the 60s.

 

[Warthog61]

Pushing some nice weights around there bro. Awesome that your HR is in the 60s.

Could also be my e2 coming back up

 

[LevButlerov]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

its lower thats good to hear Taurine addition helped that's something you'll see long term small things EVO family suggests can help a lot @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

Could also be my e2 coming back up

could be both

 

[Dreamer]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

Good stuff! If your not already try 10g glycine pre bed too

 

[Warthog61]

its lower thats good to hear Taurine addition helped that's something you'll see long term small things EVO family suggests can help a lot @Warthog61

Thanks bro!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro!

EVO family support

 

[Warthog61]

Good stuff! If your not already try 10g glycine pre bed too

I will give that a go

 

[stevesmi]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

@Warthog61 this is a good workout once again. I'm very impressed; you have some good volume.

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 this is a good workout once again. I'm very impressed; you have some good volume.

Thanks @stevesmi it was a right to the point training session, i have noticed more recomp overall with being consistant with 2 leg day splits a week quad and hamstring days

 

[stevesmi]

Thanks @stevesmi it was a right to the point training session, i have noticed more recomp overall with being consistant with 2 leg day splits a week quad and hamstring days

always good when you have those leg days.

 

[ceo]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

Bro, is this a good layout on these exercises? The leg press and the leg extension machine are on point. @Warthog61

 

[Ulter]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

@Warthog61 not bad at all. The carbs and protein are looking solid. I notice a lot of people running more carbs and protein these days. You're running it about the same.

 

[Mobster]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

All kilos for the weights?

 

[Warthog61]

All kilos for the weights?

A 400lb leg extension would be impressive right??? Sorry to let you down @Mobster but absolutly no on the kilo question

 

[2Thick]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

@Warthog61 nice job on the leg training. I like the leg press. That's getting some big weight, 540. Wow you are a beast.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

I like how you go through the workouts. This is some big weight; nice job. Talking about how you're warming up as well, and also nice job on the kettlebell swings. Every little thing goes a long way. @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 not bad at all. The carbs and protein are looking solid. I notice a lot of people running more carbs and protein these days. You're running it about the same.

Feeling decent with these macro levels

 

[Warthog61]

I like how you go through the workouts. This is some big weight; nice job. Talking about how you're warming up as well, and also nice job on the kettlebell swings. Every little thing goes a long way. @Warthog61

Warmups and a lot of range of motion exercises. Gotta stay as healthy as i can

 

[ROIDDERS]

Warmups and a lot of range of motion exercises. Gotta stay as healthy as i can

warm-ups are important. In fact I'm going to do some mobility stretches now.

 

[ballin2504]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

@Warthog61 macros looking really good man. Like seeing the training and the cardio on point like this

 

[RoySimpson]

Warmup
Adductor + abductor machine
3x3 3/4 stack reps 12-15
Smith machine sissy squat heal elevated
90x12
140x12
190x11
210x10
Leg press
270x10
360x10
450x10
540x8
270x15(semi-fast)
Leg ext. Machine
140x12
160x12
180x10
110x25
Kettlebell swings 3 sets of 25

Treadmill 35min speed 3.4 incline 6.5

545pm
bp 121/72
Rhr 69 @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @Dreamer it's lower today!! 1st time i have seen 60's in 2 months only thing i have done was added 2g taurine per lev

Carbs = 233g
Protein = 242g
Fat = 41g

@Warthog61 Shifting some serious weight bro!

 

[Warthog61]

Am treadmill 35min

START OF DELOAD WEEK
last week of cycle so transition to 150mg test cyp per week split in 2 doses. Full bloods in 4-6 weeks

Warmup/ROM

Upper body
Lat pushdown
3x100x10
Lat pulldown wide grip
130x12
150x10
160x10
Plate loaded flat bench
180x10
270x10
320x10
Plate loaded lat pulldown leaned back close grip (trap engagement)
3x180x10
Smith machine front shrugs
3X140x10
Incline dumbell curls
2x20x12
25x12
Dumbell shoulder press
3x45x10
Tricep extensions single rope
30x10
40x10
50x10

BP 114/62
RHR 83

Work stress is minimal, enjoying training and learning a lot. Gas fitter apprentice card recieved from the state. Soo happy to be out of management and more out in the field

Sleep is okay i suppose. Still get up early but less sweating

Recent supplement add ons
Taurine 2g around workout
Glycine 3g pre-bed
Dandelion Root 1575mg daily



Carbs = 237g
Protein = 259g
Fat = 44g

 

[Kopite67]

Am treadmill 35min

START OF DELOAD WEEK
last week of cycle so transition to 150mg test cyp per week split in 2 doses. Full bloods in 4-6 weeks

Warmup/ROM

Upper body
Lat pushdown
3x100x10
Lat pulldown wide grip
130x12
150x10
160x10
Plate loaded flat bench
180x10
270x10
320x10
Plate loaded lat pulldown leaned back close grip (trap engagement)
3x180x10
Smith machine front shrugs
3X140x10
Incline dumbell curls
2x20x12
25x12
Dumbell shoulder press
3x45x10
Tricep extensions single rope
30x10
40x10
50x10

BP 114/62
RHR 83

Work stress is minimal, enjoying training and learning a lot. Gas fitter apprentice card recieved from the state. Soo happy to be out of management and more out in the field

Sleep is okay i suppose. Still get up early but less sweating

Recent supplement add ons
Taurine 2g around workout
Glycine 3g pre-bed
Dandelion Root 1575mg daily



Carbs = 237g
Protein = 259g
Fat = 44g

Nice update bro. Great BP though RHR is a little high. Great idea having a deload. Be interested in seeing your bloodwork in a few weeks.

 

[Warthog61]

Nice update bro. Great BP though RHR is a little high. Great idea having a deload. Be interested in seeing your bloodwork in a few weeks.

Hr has been a touch high since about wk 8 of 16 week cycle. Could be just due to the nature of what we do. No other signs for concern so should be a good upcoming health phase

 

[LevButlerov]

Am treadmill 35min

START OF DELOAD WEEK
last week of cycle so transition to 150mg test cyp per week split in 2 doses. Full bloods in 4-6 weeks

Warmup/ROM

Upper body
Lat pushdown
3x100x10
Lat pulldown wide grip
130x12
150x10
160x10
Plate loaded flat bench
180x10
270x10
320x10
Plate loaded lat pulldown leaned back close grip (trap engagement)
3x180x10
Smith machine front shrugs
3X140x10
Incline dumbell curls
2x20x12
25x12
Dumbell shoulder press
3x45x10
Tricep extensions single rope
30x10
40x10
50x10

BP 114/62
RHR 83

Work stress is minimal, enjoying training and learning a lot. Gas fitter apprentice card recieved from the state. Soo happy to be out of management and more out in the field

Sleep is okay i suppose. Still get up early but less sweating

Recent supplement add ons
Taurine 2g around workout
Glycine 3g pre-bed
Dandelion Root 1575mg daily



Carbs = 237g
Protein = 259g
Fat = 44g

deload off to a good start go slower

 

[HarleyGuy]

Am treadmill 35min

START OF DELOAD WEEK
last week of cycle so transition to 150mg test cyp per week split in 2 doses. Full bloods in 4-6 weeks

Warmup/ROM

Upper body
Lat pushdown
3x100x10
Lat pulldown wide grip
130x12
150x10
160x10
Plate loaded flat bench
180x10
270x10
320x10
Plate loaded lat pulldown leaned back close grip (trap engagement)
3x180x10
Smith machine front shrugs
3X140x10
Incline dumbell curls
2x20x12
25x12
Dumbell shoulder press
3x45x10
Tricep extensions single rope
30x10
40x10
50x10

BP 114/62
RHR 83

Work stress is minimal, enjoying training and learning a lot. Gas fitter apprentice card recieved from the state. Soo happy to be out of management and more out in the field

Sleep is okay i suppose. Still get up early but less sweating

Recent supplement add ons
Taurine 2g around workout
Glycine 3g pre-bed
Dandelion Root 1575mg daily



Carbs = 237g
Protein = 259g
Fat = 44g

Nice updates bro! Lots of great detail and your deload week is starting off well. The less sweating is good mine has stopped as well.

next week cycle is wrapping up and i'm going to do a deload week

This was a good idea

bp 121/72
Rhr 69

This was a win! Nice

Work stress is minimal,

Another win, this will help with everything overall. I agree being in the field in any career is much better for mental and physical health.

 

[Warthog61]

So everyone i have a thought in my head as to what to do next. Plan now is to maintain on trt and switch back to tirz weekly for the time being.

As a bunch of you probably remember i had talked about a plan similar to @floridaman1984 his 1st cycle with a short mix 8-10 week run

It is looking like somewhere in April or May for a start to a hard cut for goals to be in the teen's BF wise which i may very well get there just on trt which will be a good thing.

So i'm reaching out @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @floridaman1984 @Dreamer @R.AP @Allupfromhere
@stevesmi @toddthelineman @ballin2504
What are your ideas and thoughts on the next one?

Goal is to get these ab's more visible without losing a ton of size. Plan is to stay above 215-220lb, currently 230. With a focus on legs and shoulders

 

[floridaman1984]

So everyone i have a thought in my head as to what to do next. Plan now is to maintain on trt and switch back to tirz weekly for the time being.

As a bunch of you probably remember i had talked about a plan similar to @floridaman1984 his 1st cycle with a short mix 8-10 week run

It is looking like somewhere in April or May for a start to a hard cut for goals to be in the teen's BF wise which i may very well get there just on trt which will be a good thing.

What are your ideas and thoughts on the next one?

Goal is to get these ab's more visible without losing a ton of size. Plan is to stay above 215-220lb, currently 230. With a focus on legs and shoulders

Heck yeah brother. I'll be following along.

Ive been hanging in at 230lbs myself. Going to try to ease back down to 225 or so hopefully. Just quit my 2nd test tren mast cycle. About to cruise on 200 test and maybe 140 primo. Still kicking around my options as well. Still on the reta too.

 

[Warthog61]

Heck yeah brother. I'll be following along.

Ive been hanging in at 230lbs myself. Going to try to ease back down to 225 or so hopefully. Just quit my 2nd test tren mast cycle. About to cruise on 200 test and maybe 140 primo. Still kicking around my options as well. Still on the reta too.

Thats a cruise all right lol. I have primo and mast kicking around but wanted to lean up more before running it and i am curious how primo will effect e2, you shouldnt need an ai on your trt. So i figured out why not run some devils juice in the spring

 

[floridaman1984]

Thats a cruise all right lol. I have primo and mast kicking around but wanted to lean up more before running it and i am curious how primo will effect e2, you shouldnt need an ai on your trt. So i figured out why not run some devils juice in the spring

When I'm just on test I take 0.25mg a week of anastrozole. I wont take any with the primo.

 

[Warthog61]

When I'm just on test I take 0.25mg a week of anastrozole. I wont take any with the primo.

That should work out well for you. I was thinking of adding a little npp or deca to trt but may just do a true trt run for a little while. I am tempted tho...

 

[floridaman1984]

That should work out well for you. I was thinking of adding a little npp or deca to trt but may just do a true trt run for a little while. I am tempted tho...

Npp is what I'm considering as well. Need to this tren e clear out first. Just something low dose for the joints.

I really want an eq run during the summer for cardio boost.

 

[Warthog61]

Sorry if i forgot some of you, soo many people have chimed in and helped @waggat @Kopite67

 

[Warthog61]

Npp is what I'm considering as well. Need to this tren e clear out first. Just something low dose for the joints.

I really want an eq run during the summer for cardio boost.

Eq is nice at 250, any higher my e2 was sub 10. I have been doing cardio 2x a day, good stamina in gym and in bed wife has been really enjoying it lol. Seeing veins in arms and shoulders. Unfortunatly i cant run higher like some other guys

 

[floridaman1984]

Eq is nice at 250, any higher my e2 was sub 10. I have been doing cardio 2x a day, good stamina in gym and in bed wife has been really enjoying it lol. Seeing veins in arms and shoulders. Unfortunatly i cant run higher like some other guys

Yeah i was thinking test 300 eq 200 when I try it

 

[Warthog61]

Yeah i was thinking test 300 eq 200 when I try it

I would reccomend 2:1 to start for sure, then check e2 at week 4-5. I didnt notice my low e2 but everyone can be different 400 test 200 eq then reassess

 

[Warthog61]

@floridaman1984 have you been running proviron at all?

 

[floridaman1984]

@floridaman1984 have you been running proviron at all?

No but I have some

 

[waggat]

So everyone i have a thought in my head as to what to do next. Plan now is to maintain on trt and switch back to tirz weekly for the time being.

As a bunch of you probably remember i had talked about a plan similar to @floridaman1984 his 1st cycle with a short mix 8-10 week run

It is looking like somewhere in April or May for a start to a hard cut for goals to be in the teen's BF wise which i may very well get there just on trt which will be a good thing.

So i'm reaching out @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @floridaman1984 @Dreamer @R.AP @Allupfromhere
@stevesmi @toddthelineman @ballin2504
What are your ideas and thoughts on the next one?

Goal is to get these ab's more visible without losing a ton of size. Plan is to stay above 215-220lb, currently 230. With a focus on legs and shoulders

Hey mate, coming off cycle I'd hold at maintenance for at least a few weeks. The I'd probably start a cut to get yourself in a good position for the next cycle. Ideally you'd want to get to a point where you can either do a lean gain or a recomp at worst.

 

[Warthog61]

Hey mate, coming off cycle I'd hold at maintenance for at least a few weeks. The I'd probably start a cut to get yourself in a good position for the next cycle. Ideally you'd want to get to a point where you can either do a lean gain or a recomp at worst.

Im planing for at least 8 weeks or more if need be maintenance wise, i am not one to rush this. I have my diet and training pretty well dialed in for me so the other stuff is just add-on.

Body has been under stress so it needs a break for sure

 

[Kopite67]

Sorry if i forgot some of you, soo many people have chimed in and helped @waggat @Kopite67

Thanks brother. My absolute pleasure

 

[R.AP]

So everyone i have a thought in my head as to what to do next. Plan now is to maintain on trt and switch back to tirz weekly for the time being.

As a bunch of you probably remember i had talked about a plan similar to @floridaman1984 his 1st cycle with a short mix 8-10 week run

It is looking like somewhere in April or May for a start to a hard cut for goals to be in the teen's BF wise which i may very well get there just on trt which will be a good thing.

So i'm reaching out @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @floridaman1984 @Dreamer @R.AP @Allupfromhere
@stevesmi @toddthelineman @ballin2504
What are your ideas and thoughts on the next one?

Goal is to get these ab's more visible without losing a ton of size. Plan is to stay above 215-220lb, currently 230. With a focus on legs and shoulders

Agreed here brother, absolutely no reason you can't capitalize on the health phase, where your focus isn't to build muscle, and get shredded instead. Set yourself up to be in a really healthy, and responsive position to kick off a build phase following the cut.

 

[Warthog61]

Agreed here brother, absolutely no reason you can't capitalize on the health phase, where your focus isn't to build muscle, and get shredded instead. Set yourself up to be in a really healthy, and responsive position to kick off a build phase following the cut.

OoOo a build phase. Should i maintain a slight deficite in health phase or just run maintenance. Looking for best approach to get more bodyfat off without overstressing body

 

[Dreamer]

OoOo a build phase. Should i maintain a slight deficite in health phase or just run maintenance. Looking for best approach to get more bodyfat off without overstressing body

I would run maitenance for awhile and see how you recomp, and as the weeks go on start going into a slight deficit.

 

[Warthog61]

I would run maitenance for awhile and see how you recomp, and as the weeks go on start going into a slight deficit.

Sounds good

 

[Dreamer]

Sounds good

Finding maintenance can be tricky coming off peds as it is, dont rush it, with test on board you will recomp nicely if calories arent too low

 

[Warthog61]

Finding maintenance can be tricky coming off peds as it is, dont rush it, with test on board you will recomp nicely if calories arent too low

Maintenance has probably changed with my job as well. More physical and outside in the cold i am sure i am burning more

 

[floridaman1984]

Maintenance has probably changed with my job as well. More physical and outside in the cold i am sure i am burning more

Out in the cold will definitely burn more calories.

 

[Warthog61]

Out in the cold will definitely burn more calories.

I can feel it lol. Been in 10-20degrees minus the wind chill for a few weeks now. Cold .
Looking like tge 30's for the next few days, going to feel like a heat wave

 

[floridaman1984]

I can feel it lol. Been in 10-20degrees minus the wind chill for a few weeks now. Cold .
Looking like tge 30's for the next few days, going to feel like a heat wave

Oh yeah. Your body will be burning some fuel to keep your body temp up.

 

[LevButlerov]

So everyone i have a thought in my head as to what to do next. Plan now is to maintain on trt and switch back to tirz weekly for the time being.

As a bunch of you probably remember i had talked about a plan similar to @floridaman1984 his 1st cycle with a short mix 8-10 week run

It is looking like somewhere in April or May for a start to a hard cut for goals to be in the teen's BF wise which i may very well get there just on trt which will be a good thing.

So i'm reaching out @LevButlerov @HarleyGuy @floridaman1984 @Dreamer @R.AP @Allupfromhere
@stevesmi @toddthelineman @ballin2504
What are your ideas and thoughts on the next one?

Goal is to get these ab's more visible without losing a ton of size. Plan is to stay above 215-220lb, currently 230. With a focus on legs and shoulders

It's a good idea but I think you can start this without the tren, @floridaman1984 had tren in it, what do you want to do? @Warthog61

 

[Warthog61]

It's a good idea but I think you can start this without the tren, @floridaman1984 had tren in it, what do you want to do? @Warthog61

I was thinking of same thing test p mast p and tren ace. But im open to anything. Plan right now is to just lose some water weight and tighten up on trt and tirz. Focus is health phase and bloodwork in 4-6 weeks but like to bounce some ideas around

I am open to other ideas, could do a hard lean into a test mast npp or along those lines thinking summer

Or lean down and do a mass gain test, deca, eq. I have the frame for it, this could be for winter

 

[LevButlerov]

I was thinking of same thing test p mast p and tren ace. But im open to anything. Plan right now is to just lose some water weight and tighten up on trt and tirz. Focus is health phase and bloodwork in 4-6 weeks but like to bounce some ideas around

I am open to other ideas, could do a hard lean into a test mast npp or along those lines thinking summer

Or lean down and do a mass gain test, deca, eq. I have the frame for it, this could be for winter

I would do bloods first when can you get them?

 

[Warthog61]

I would do bloods first when can you get them?

Yeah thats my plan man. Im not rushing into something else. Just spitballing. It says i am doing bloods in 4-6 weeks. I am not planning on anything for 8 weeks minimum just fetting ideas to plan ahead is all

 

[Warthog61]

I would do bloods first when can you get them?

I just finished my cycle today not going to start another, i want my levels to go back to normal a little before pulling bloods no?

 

[LevButlerov]

I just finished my cycle today not going to start another, i want my levels to go back to normal a little before pulling bloods no?

you can wait 2 weeks sure

 

[R.AP]

OoOo a build phase. Should i maintain a slight deficite in health phase or just run maintenance. Looking for best approach to get more bodyfat off without overstressing body

Can definitely improve health markers in a conservative deficit!

 

[Warthog61]

you can wait 2 weeks sure

Sorry but I think thats still too short. 4+ weeks to ensure body is effectively recovering is what i have read. I'm wanting to see my body go to natural levels no?

 

[Warthog61]

Sorry but I think thats still too short. 4+ weeks to ensure body is effectively recovering is what i have read. I'm wanting to see my body go to natural levels no?

@LevButlerov if im wrong let me know but wouldnt 2 weeks still show skewed lipids amoung other things?

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Am treadmill 35min

START OF DELOAD WEEK
last week of cycle so transition to 150mg test cyp per week split in 2 doses. Full bloods in 4-6 weeks

Warmup/ROM

Upper body
Lat pushdown
3x100x10
Lat pulldown wide grip
130x12
150x10
160x10
Plate loaded flat bench
180x10
270x10
320x10
Plate loaded lat pulldown leaned back close grip (trap engagement)
3x180x10
Smith machine front shrugs
3X140x10
Incline dumbell curls
2x20x12
25x12
Dumbell shoulder press
3x45x10
Tricep extensions single rope
30x10
40x10
50x10

BP 114/62
RHR 83

Work stress is minimal, enjoying training and learning a lot. Gas fitter apprentice card recieved from the state. Soo happy to be out of management and more out in the field

Sleep is okay i suppose. Still get up early but less sweating

Recent supplement add ons
Taurine 2g around workout
Glycine 3g pre-bed
Dandelion Root 1575mg daily



Carbs = 237g
Protein = 259g
Fat = 44g

@Warthog61 try meditation before sleep.......

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 try meditation before sleep.......

Falling asleep is a breeze, i read a chapter or 2 and i am out. Its the midnight on that gets me, i become restless. We will see how i adjust with a deload and transition to trt

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov if im wrong let me know but wouldnt 2 weeks still show skewed lipids amoung other things?

2 weeks would show a good baseline for us imo @Warthog61

 

[LevButlerov]

Sorry but I think thats still too short. 4+ weeks to ensure body is effectively recovering is what i have read. I'm wanting to see my body go to natural levels no?

you can wait 4 weeks sure

 

[Warthog61]

Morning cardio
Treadmill 40 min speed 3.1 incline 7

PM training
Cable pullover
90x10
100x10
110x10
Incline plate loaded press
180x10
270x10
320x8
90x15
Lat raises dumbell
3X15lbx16-20
Overhead dumbell tricep ext.
3x70x10
Pec dec
130x10
140x10
150x10
Dips
3xbodyweightx12-14


Carbs = 171g
Protein = 221g
Fat = 44g

 

[Kopite67]

Morning cardio
Treadmill 40 min speed 3.1 incline 7

PM training
Cable pullover
90x10
100x10
110x10
Incline plate loaded press
180x10
270x10
320x8
90x15
Lat raises dumbell
3X15lbx16-20
Overhead dumbell tricep ext.
3x70x10
Pec dec
130x10
140x10
150x10
Dips
3xbodyweightx12-14


Carbs = 171g
Protein = 221g
Fat = 44g

Nice update bro. Great push on the incline press, 320, wow.

 

[Warthog61]

Nice update bro. Great push on the incline press, 320, wow.

Deload week, trying to keep volume down

 

[LevButlerov]

Morning cardio
Treadmill 40 min speed 3.1 incline 7

PM training
Cable pullover
90x10
100x10
110x10
Incline plate loaded press
180x10
270x10
320x8
90x15
Lat raises dumbell
3X15lbx16-20
Overhead dumbell tricep ext.
3x70x10
Pec dec
130x10
140x10
150x10
Dips
3xbodyweightx12-14


Carbs = 171g
Protein = 221g
Fat = 44g

go even lower as deload comes but good loaded press 320 with a drop! @Warthog61

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @codezz

 

[codezz]

Morning cardio
Treadmill 40 min speed 3.1 incline 7

PM training
Cable pullover
90x10
100x10
110x10
Incline plate loaded press
180x10
270x10
320x8
90x15
Lat raises dumbell
3X15lbx16-20
Overhead dumbell tricep ext.
3x70x10
Pec dec
130x10
140x10
150x10
Dips
3xbodyweightx12-14


Carbs = 171g
Protein = 221g
Fat = 44g

Good day on the macros there @Warthog61

 

[Dreamer]

Morning cardio
Treadmill 40 min speed 3.1 incline 7

PM training
Cable pullover
90x10
100x10
110x10
Incline plate loaded press
180x10
270x10
320x8
90x15
Lat raises dumbell
3X15lbx16-20
Overhead dumbell tricep ext.
3x70x10
Pec dec
130x10
140x10
150x10
Dips
3xbodyweightx12-14


Carbs = 171g
Protein = 221g
Fat = 44g

nice weight on the incline press brother, your quite strong

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Nice double session . Cardio am. And moving good weight pm

 

[Warthog61]

Overdue update to log.



2 weeks post cycle weight down 12lbs (water weight i am sure)



Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

So currently on

trt 150mg

2iu gh pre bed

MOTS-C 1mg M-F

Cialis 5mg

Tirzepatide 5mg week

Methylene blue 10mg



Supps

3500mg Fish Oil

500mg Berberine

600mg Citrus bergamot

500mg TUDCA

500mg NAC

100MG Coq10

600mg Red Yeast Rice

1x Digestive Enzyme 3x Daily

AM/PM 50b Probiotic

1600mg Glucosamine

800mg Chondroitin Sulfate

10mg Collagen

1500mg plant sterols & stanols

1500mg dandelion rood

2g Taurine

1g l-carnitine



Sleep

3mg Melatonin

500mg Magnesium Citrate/glycinate

3mg Glycine



I jokingly said to my wife that i wanted to do a competition when i was 45 and to my suprise she said she can't wait to see me on stage. Looking at what i have accomplished in the past 6 months i can only imagine what 6 years could produce



BP 116/68

RHR 74


My mental clarity has been amazing, i almost feel 10 years younger, not sure if its placibo or the mots-c and MB working together. I have this drive just to keep grinding with all aspects in life that i haven't had in a long time.

 

[LevButlerov]

Overdue update to log.



2 weeks post cycle weight down 12lbs (water weight i am sure)



Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

So currently on

trt 150mg

2iu gh pre bed

MOTS-C 1mg M-F

Cialis 5mg

Tirzepatide 5mg week

Methylene blue 10mg



Supps

3500mg Fish Oil

500mg Berberine

600mg Citrus bergamot

500mg TUDCA

500mg NAC

100MG Coq10

600mg Red Yeast Rice

1x Digestive Enzyme 3x Daily

AM/PM 50b Probiotic

1600mg Glucosamine

800mg Chondroitin Sulfate

10mg Collagen

1500mg plant sterols & stanols

1500mg dandelion rood

2g Taurine

1g l-carnitine



Sleep

3mg Melatonin

500mg Magnesium Citrate/glycinate

3mg Glycine



I jokingly said to my wife that i wanted to do a competition when i was 45 and to my suprise she said she can't wait to see me on stage. Looking at what i have accomplished in the past 6 months i can only imagine what 6 years could produce



BP 116/68

RHR 74


My mental clarity has been amazing, i almost feel 10 years younger, not sure if its placibo or the mots-c and MB working together. I have this drive just to keep grinding with all aspects in life that i haven't had in a long time.

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awesome to see this update @Warthog61 we have been waiting!
you're looking much leaner and bigger too in the pic love it!
you want the avatar changed?

on the look mots-c you saying really pumped you up on energy?

 

[Warthog61]

awesome to see this update @Warthog61 we have been waiting!
you're looking much leaner and bigger too in the pic love it!
you want the avatar changed?

on the look mots-c you saying really pumped you up on energy?

Yeah that would be cool. Maybe to the one on the right. Shoulders and back are definitely wider and waist is shrinking.

It has been a few weeks on mots-c and i can really tell a difference, its more like a clean energy almost as if using pure oxygen. Just a clean feeling.

 

[Warthog61]

Look at that belly 6 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a damn keg! Now its a rippled keg

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah that would be cool. Maybe to the one on the right. Shoulders and back are definitely wider and waist is shrinking.

It has been a few weeks on mots-c and i can really tell a difference, its more like a clean energy almost as if using pure oxygen. Just a clean feeling.

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Look at that belly 6 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a damn keg! Now its a rippled keg

before and after is amazing love it @Warthog61 EVO family support and respect your way for doing this!
I want to see your new log POP hard!

 

[Warthog61]

before and after is amazing love it @Warthog61 EVO family support and respect your way for doing this!
I want to see your new log POP hard!

Ohh it will for sure bro. And thank you for the positive vibes. I would like to reach out to plan for my food intake or get suggestions for my next blast

 

[LevButlerov]

Ohh it will for sure bro. And thank you for the positive vibes. I would like to reach out to plan for my food intake or get suggestions for my next blast

awesome lets do it and since you staying on TRT now lets get your TRT log up @Warthog61 check your avatar!

 

[Warthog61]

awesome lets do it and since you staying on TRT now lets get your TRT log up @Warthog61 check your avatar!

Man i could hardly recognize it . Was thinking of just continuing to log the health phase on this to close this log out officially before the next one

 

[LevButlerov]

Man i could hardly recognize it . Was thinking of just continuing to log the health phase on this to close this log out officially before the next one

I think we should close this log and get you on TRT bridge first @Warthog61 you're night and day! amazing!

 

[stevesmi]

Overdue update to log.



2 weeks post cycle weight down 12lbs (water weight i am sure)



Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

So currently on

trt 150mg

2iu gh pre bed

MOTS-C 1mg M-F

Cialis 5mg

Tirzepatide 5mg week

Methylene blue 10mg



Supps

3500mg Fish Oil

500mg Berberine

600mg Citrus bergamot

500mg TUDCA

500mg NAC

100MG Coq10

600mg Red Yeast Rice

1x Digestive Enzyme 3x Daily

AM/PM 50b Probiotic

1600mg Glucosamine

800mg Chondroitin Sulfate

10mg Collagen

1500mg plant sterols & stanols

1500mg dandelion rood

2g Taurine

1g l-carnitine



Sleep

3mg Melatonin

500mg Magnesium Citrate/glycinate

3mg Glycine



I jokingly said to my wife that i wanted to do a competition when i was 45 and to my suprise she said she can't wait to see me on stage. Looking at what i have accomplished in the past 6 months i can only imagine what 6 years could produce



BP 116/68

RHR 74


My mental clarity has been amazing, i almost feel 10 years younger, not sure if its placibo or the mots-c and MB working together. I have this drive just to keep grinding with all aspects in life that i haven't had in a long time.

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@Warthog61 amazing job man. The physique is looking fantastic. Those abs are popping beautifully well.

 

[Mobster]

Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

Both can cause problems. Keep an eye on it

 

[2Thick]

Overdue update to log.



2 weeks post cycle weight down 12lbs (water weight i am sure)



Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

So currently on

trt 150mg

2iu gh pre bed

MOTS-C 1mg M-F

Cialis 5mg

Tirzepatide 5mg week

Methylene blue 10mg



Supps

3500mg Fish Oil

500mg Berberine

600mg Citrus bergamot

500mg TUDCA

500mg NAC

100MG Coq10

600mg Red Yeast Rice

1x Digestive Enzyme 3x Daily

AM/PM 50b Probiotic

1600mg Glucosamine

800mg Chondroitin Sulfate

10mg Collagen

1500mg plant sterols & stanols

1500mg dandelion rood

2g Taurine

1g l-carnitine



Sleep

3mg Melatonin

500mg Magnesium Citrate/glycinate

3mg Glycine



I jokingly said to my wife that i wanted to do a competition when i was 45 and to my suprise she said she can't wait to see me on stage. Looking at what i have accomplished in the past 6 months i can only imagine what 6 years could produce



BP 116/68

RHR 74


My mental clarity has been amazing, i almost feel 10 years younger, not sure if its placibo or the mots-c and MB working together. I have this drive just to keep grinding with all aspects in life that i haven't had in a long time.

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You look fantastic. @Warthog61 good job. You look nice and lean and muscular but you don't look like a crazy monster either. Just a perfect look overall.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Overdue update to log.



2 weeks post cycle weight down 12lbs (water weight i am sure)



Sleep has improved over the past few days so i am leaning towards low e2 causing sleep disturbances and sweating. But saying that i did switch back to tirzepatide from reta at the end of the cycle and that may have been a contributing factor. I have read some cases of that with a few people on reta (sleep disturbance, sweaty at night)

So currently on

trt 150mg

2iu gh pre bed

MOTS-C 1mg M-F

Cialis 5mg

Tirzepatide 5mg week

Methylene blue 10mg



Supps

3500mg Fish Oil

500mg Berberine

600mg Citrus bergamot

500mg TUDCA

500mg NAC

100MG Coq10

600mg Red Yeast Rice

1x Digestive Enzyme 3x Daily

AM/PM 50b Probiotic

1600mg Glucosamine

800mg Chondroitin Sulfate

10mg Collagen

1500mg plant sterols & stanols

1500mg dandelion rood

2g Taurine

1g l-carnitine



Sleep

3mg Melatonin

500mg Magnesium Citrate/glycinate

3mg Glycine



I jokingly said to my wife that i wanted to do a competition when i was 45 and to my suprise she said she can't wait to see me on stage. Looking at what i have accomplished in the past 6 months i can only imagine what 6 years could produce



BP 116/68

RHR 74


My mental clarity has been amazing, i almost feel 10 years younger, not sure if its placibo or the mots-c and MB working together. I have this drive just to keep grinding with all aspects in life that i haven't had in a long time.

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Amazing work as usual. Your physique looks on point. Your biceps are popping and your abs are popping as well. @Warthog61

 

[Ulter]

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Look at that belly 6 months ago!!!!!!!!!!!! It was a damn keg! Now its a rippled keg

@Warthog61 you've trimmed up beautifully from six months ago. There's no telling where you will be in another six months or another year from now from here.

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 you've trimmed up beautifully from six months ago. There's no telling where you will be in another six months or another year from now from here.

@Warthog61 you've trimmed up beautifully from six months ago. There's no telling where you will be in another six months or another year from now from here.

Seeing the results definitely makes it easy to stay on track and maintain focus!

 

[Warthog61]

Amazing work as usual. Your physique looks on point. Your biceps are popping and your abs are popping as well. @Warthog61

Sticking to the grind!!!!

 

[Ulter]

Seeing the results definitely makes it easy to stay on track and maintain focus!

That's what we like to hear.

 

[Warthog61]

You look fantastic. @Warthog61 good job. You look nice and lean and muscular but you don't look like a crazy monster either. Just a perfect look overall.

Well the plan may get altered.....maybe not a "crazy" monster but the goal is a monster none the less.

 

[Warthog61]

@Warthog61 amazing job man. The physique is looking fantastic. Those abs are popping beautifully well.

Setting myself up for a good gain phase