Damn. I’ll stop taking it too@Snayaz igf-1 is an insulin growth factor so it has a blood sugar impact too
Damn. I’ll stop taking it too@Snayaz igf-1 is an insulin growth factor so it has a blood sugar impact too
@Snayaz some good IGF-1 readingDamn. I’ll stop taking it too
Thanks for that.
That’s true. It’s morning now and I’ve only peed once lastnight which was good. But I just wanna be cautious if you get me.Brother you are a big boy, there is a big chance you holding a lot of water weight, and now that your taking an a.i it’s causing the excess water to be excreted, this could be one reason this is happening
@Snayaz thats a good thing, did you start measuring blood sugar? I havent seen updatesThanks for that.
I still don’t think it’s diabetes I just hope im
Right. I kept looking into it and looking at symptoms. But the only thing I do have is just the urination.
No thirst issues
No blurryness
No weightloss/gain still same weight on scale Maby down a kg or 2 but to be expected during cruise
with the enlarged prostate thought
It might be that.
Frequent urination but not as much at night. Night I just go 2 or 3 max
Sometimes it does dribble out a bit but not all the time usually it’s flowing good.
Either way I just hope it’s not bad news at all on all ends and it’s something that can be cured and resolved
I just bought the strips and blood glucose meter now. This is a hour after eating. Sorry I couldn’t do it before breakfast as chemist wasn’t open but I’ll continue throughout the day. What do you think?@Snayaz thats a good thing, did you start measuring blood sugar? I havent seen updates
@Snayaz for now no comment lets keep testingI just bought the strips and blood glucose meter now. This is a hour after eating. Sorry I couldn’t do it before breakfast as chemist wasn’t open but I’ll continue throughout the day. What do you think?
That’s fair enough.@Snayaz for now no comment lets keep testing
can you update your foods actual meals as you go
we cant judge blood sugar in vacuum
dont know if you ate a steak or coca cola right
thats the point of a log needs details
@Snayaz lets go with the whole day and add blood sugar pre post meal in the list thanksThat’s fair enough.
Meal 1: 5 whole eggs 3 egg whites 4 English muffins. Black Coffee with almond milk. First test was a hour after this at 6.1 blood glucose
Meal 2: 250g steak in 2 bread buns with onion lettuce low sugar/salt ketchup. I’ll do glucose test for this and post it up aswel.
Post test would be a hour after? Or 2?@Snayaz lets go with the whole day and add blood sugar pre post meal in the list thanks
Tomorro morning definitely I’ll check it.Check your fasted blood sugar after waking up in the morning. Also check it like 2-3 hours after a meal and or right before eating.
I have no idea those numbers e different than the measurement in the USA.Tomorro morning definitely I’ll check it.
I’m about to eat now and instead of steak I got salmon instead in the sandwiches.
So this is right before second meal.
250g salmon/avocado/2 burger buns/ lettuce and onion and low salt and sugar ketchup
@Snayaz 30min and 1 hour post mealPost test would be a hour after? Or 2?
We are having a bit of a hard time with these conversions as @RoidRage69 mentionedCouldn’t do meal 4 as I was in meetings and I ate it. But here is meal 5 pre and post
Meal 4 and 5 are the same meal
250g chicken and 200g Jasmine rice
I tried to see if I could change it but I don’t think soWe are having a bit of a hard time with these conversions as @RoidRage69 mentioned
we usually do 180 mg/dL
you have mmol/L
does that machine change to mg/DL?
@Snayaz ok stay updated we will try to convert on our ownI tried to see if I could change it but I don’t think so
Good workMorning to all. Sorry I haven’t logged in a few days as I’ve been busy with work but I’ll speed things up on the log now.
Yesterday and today are low carb days for me and atm I’m currently at 129.7kg fasted. I have dropped down a few kg but it hasn’t bothered me. Was just thinking of 250mg a week is enough or would I have to increase in the future on a cruise? I split the doses into 2 injections to keep things stable which I feel works better then once a week injections.
No cardio today for me as I plan on just spending time with my son as he is like cardio cause I take him everywhere and I’m on the move.
I wanted to mention that I do absolutely love this igf1 lr3 as it’s giving me the feeling of phenomenal pumps in the gym and my strength is still the same and going strong, I haven’t lost any strength so far. I have noticed tho I’m not as full like I was on blast but that’s to be expected I guess and I don’t want to constantly eat high amounts of calories and carbs because I know right now I would be adding fat so I take this time in a cruise to reduce my food a bit and keep fat levels at bay before my next blast.
It’s already been 2 weeks into cruise and now week 3 starting so another 3 weeks and I’ll be blasting once again.
I decided what I want to do in terms of blast and it will be something like this as I use to do this before.
Wk 1 - 12 1000mg test e
wk 1 - 10 600mg deca
Wk 1 - 10 600 eq
Wk 1 - 10 400mg tren e
Wk 1 - 5 20iu novorapid
Still considering adding an oral just not sure what I want to add. I still have anadrol and heaps of it but I don’t want to go too watery cause I know blood pressure becomes a bitch for me.
Anadrol
Superdrol
Dbol
Halo
Anavar
Don’t know what I will use as this will be my last growth phase before I actually cut soon
N2guard will help with kidneys and urinationsI do have a question I never brought up or a little issue.
Since this blast I was doing I have been urinating a lot and I wake up Maby 2 - 3 times a night to pee. I assumed it was the aromasin or shilajit because I never use to pee so much but I’m week 3 into cruise and I’m still peeing a lot. Is this because the aromasin reduced my estro and I am peeing a lot more? I’m going to do bloods this weekend and see what’s happening.
I owe a lot throughout the day but I also do drink heaps of water. I know it’s over 5litres as I’m drinking water heaps so it could be that as I use to assume it was a way to help flush kidneys and liver.
Could it be
Prostate issues
Kidney issues
Estro related?
I never really took ai before and I never really had this issue but I know my estro was somewhat high back then. I’m just trying to get an idea what it may be.
I don’t have a issue urinating
My urine colour is light yellow sometimes clear from drinking heaps
I don’t leak after and I don’t have a weak stream.
My bloods before cycle I didn’t have any kidney issues either but I’ll see what these bloods say.
Any help or anyone who’s had similar issues please reply.
I am a bit of a hypochondriac so I might be worrying myself over nothing.
Would the igf1 could have played a part for increasing it a bit?Looks like you’re just on the borderline so it’s fairly normal.
The expected values for normal fasting blood glucose concentration are between 70 mg/dL (3.9 mmol/L) and 100 mg/dL (5.6 mmol/L).
IGF-1 actually lowers blood sugars hence the name “insulin like growth factor”.Would the igf1 could have played a part for increasing it a bit?
Ok I see. I thank you tho.IGF-1 actually lowers blood sugars hence the name “insulin like growth factor”.
@Snayaz lets see where you are in a few days I've been waiting to see full few days broOk I see. I thank you tho.
my frequent urination has stopped to be quite honest. Day 3 and urination has gone back to normal and only urinating once Maby twice in the night.
I got full bloods for everything I’m doing Saturday and will have results Sunday aswel
@Snayaz good you keeping the track bro....it will help in identifying the issue.....Couldn’t do meal 4 as I was in meetings and I ate it. But here is meal 5 pre and post
Meal 4 and 5 are the same meal
250g chicken and 200g Jasmine rice
@Snayaz you posted your blood sugar tests 3-4 times not for days and no meals with it, how do you know you dont have a pre-diabetic condition?Hey guys sorry for the delay. My phone has been with repair guy cause I smashed it by accident.
I did my priv blood tests this morning and hope to get results either tonight or tomorro.
I’m still just trying to figure what type of cycle I want to do still as I plan on doing something wild as usual.
I’ve had 2 rest days with cardio but tomorro I have chest/biceps/calves tomorro.
I’m still running igf1 as I haven’t stopped it. My urination problem has gone back to normal and I found out I don’t have diabetes and a scan showed no prostate issues nor enlargement.
I do have a question for experienced users. Once my cruise is done
I have 3 more weeks of my cruise left also 2 weeks left for the igf1
Once I jump into my blast can I use insulin or should I wait? Not sure if you have to wait a while before using insulin after igf or can I start it when I blast
Bro been using insulin on and off for years. I have a private doctor who is a close mate and knows everything I do when it comes to my steroid use.@Snayaz you posted your blood sugar tests 3-4 times not for days and no meals with it, how do you know you dont have a pre-diabetic condition?
I would not use insulin period, unless you want to step on stage, whats the point of it?
if you plan to step on stage sure, but why use if if you're not stepping on stage.
also on the "smash" your phone, you getting roid rage bro?![]()
@Snayaz I think its crucial to log what you do, to see progress and growth but thats up to you broBro been using insulin on and off for years. I have a private doctor who is a close mate and knows everything I do when it comes to my steroid use.
Tbh this blast is finished and there’s no real point anymore in logging a cruise as i don’t see how it benefits.
Yes your right competing isn’t my thing but that’s not going to stop me from doing what I like.
I done it yesterday morning bro so hopefully it comes around 8pm to my email tonight.@Snayaz I think its crucial to log what you do, to see progress and growth but thats up to you bro
and your doctor is good, thats fine but havent seen your blood work, do you have it?
I got told it’s from strenuous workout the day before. I’ve had them higher before but it’s going down.Your liver is stressed hard and you are on the verge of getting gout. Lower your protein intake.
I am a big believer in lower protein intake compared to most. It’s hard on the kidneys.I got told it’s from strenuous workout the day before. I’ve had them higher before but it’s going down.
I’m actually planning to drop protein and carbs down a lot now since I can’t train for a few weeks. Just cardio and legs only.
I’ll be getting bloods again in another 4 weeks
So you reckon cutting up chicken, steaks and fish to around 200g sized portions would be more ideal than 250?I am a big believer in lower protein intake compared to most. It’s hard on the kidneys.
Gout is no joke. It damages your joints. I’ve had it and have managed to make it go away from protein intake under 200 grams per day. Most of the mass monsters never ate as much protein as the trainers on this site promote on a daily basis. Trust your knowledge and not what trainers tell you.
You provably should try and eat a lot less of everything since your off cycle and give the body a break. The amount of abuse we go through with cycles and training is horrendous to our health. I know I was looking forward to the end of my cycle when I was at week 10. It’s tough on the body. You likely won’t lose much size or strength during the off phase since you know how to train properly.So you reckon cutting up chicken, steaks and fish to around 200g sized portions would be more ideal than 250?
I can do that. I’ll start next meal onwards between 180 to 200g portion per meal.
I cut my aromasin down to 10mg twice per week while using 250mg Test E per week. I don’t want to crash my E2 too much.Also should I keep running aromasin? Maby get some caber to bring those levels down in the photo
Your right. So would you just lower carbs and protein each meal? Or would you think just taking 1 meal out would be better?You provably should try and eat a lot less of everything since your off cycle and give the body a break. The amount of abuse we go through with cycles and training is horrendous to our health. I know I was looking forward to the end of my cycle when I was at week 10. It’s tough on the body. You likely won’t lose much size or strength during the off phase since you know how to train properly.
Easy I’ll do this. 2 x 10mg per week. I have proper pharm grade aromasin straight from a pharmacy. So I’ll take it today and ThursdayI cut my aromasin down to 10mg twice per week while using 250mg Test E per week. I don’t want to crash my E2 too much.
I really don’t think it matters too much. It wouldn’t hurt to eat in a shorter window tk give the digestive tract a beak. Heck try some 20 hour fasts once a week and see how you feel. Could help a lot. I believe fasting works best when off cycle anyway.Your right. So would you just lower carbs and protein each meal? Or would you think just taking 1 meal out would be better?
Yeah I wasn’t planning on blasting for another 3 or 4 weeks but since yesterday I either tore/strain bicep who knows how long now.I don’t think you need to reduce your food drastically, unless you are holding bodyfat. But you are also not not ready to blast, you need to get health markers in check a bit more first. Blood donation, Ip6, red yeast rice extract and/or some citrus bergamot, there’s a few things I would suggest to be honest
Also I did have a look but could find it, do you have a copy of your diet handy?
I wouldn't use slinHey guys sorry for the delay. My phone has been with repair guy cause I smashed it by accident.
I did my priv blood tests this morning and hope to get results either tonight or tomorro.
I’m still just trying to figure what type of cycle I want to do still as I plan on doing something wild as usual.
I’ve had 2 rest days with cardio but tomorro I have chest/biceps/calves tomorro.
I’m still running igf1 as I haven’t stopped it. My urination problem has gone back to normal and I found out I don’t have diabetes and a scan showed no prostate issues nor enlargement.
I do have a question for experienced users. Once my cruise is done
I have 3 more weeks of my cruise left also 2 weeks left for the igf1
Once I jump into my blast can I use insulin or should I wait? Not sure if you have to wait a while before using insulin after igf or can I start it when I blast
@Snayaz you have a new blood work for us to see bro?Yeah I wasn’t planning on blasting for another 3 or 4 weeks but since yesterday I either tore/strain bicep who knows how long now.
I’ll be donating blood this week and next week aswel so that parts nonissue. Liver i hve urisidiol which helps more than any other liver tabs and cholesterol im on other supps I know that help it.
I’m in bed now as I just woke up but gonna have a look at my bicep to see if it’s bad.
Yeah I posted it up, scroll up a bit cause you may have missed the bloods bro.@Snayaz you have a new blood work for us to see bro?
@Snayaz just saw it, missed itYeah I posted it up, scroll up a bit cause you may have missed the bloods bro.
I’m still going to wait and get markers into place.
Donate blood this Friday and bring liver enzymes down and in 3 weeks do bloods again.
This is my first bloods I’ve seen that my estro has been this high. And before I never ran ai and didn’t have them this high.@Snayaz just saw it, missed it
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-anadrol-insulin-cycle-log.98370/post-1550192
the bloods are not good, high estrogen high prolactin
high alt ast and urea, kidney and liver problems
overall bloods out of whack not good
Update
I came back from drs and it seems to be a bicep strain and not a bad tear.
I’ll be taking time off upper body but still be working lower body and Abs. then next week I’ll do some light band work for left bicep before I go to the gym and use machines at light weight.
@Snayaz your bloods are out of whack if you ask meThis is my first bloods I’ve seen that my estro has been this high. And before I never ran ai and didn’t have them this high.
Prolactin aswel but I am going to use aromasin twice a week through my cruise. And find something to drop prolactin.
Urea they told me on the day of my blood test that I am dehydrated as it shows how slow bloods were coming out. I didn’t drink no water around 8pm and didn’t feel like water in the morning as I wasn’t thirsty tbh.
AST and alt are high but that Maby cause I trained hard the day before but I know it was from the anadrol and anavar so I know that will still take time.
Remember these bloods are 3 weeks after my blast so I wasn’t expecting bloods to look the greatest.
Would you know what dose of aromasin would be good for now with 250mg so I can lower estro? Also what would be a good dose for caber for prolactin?
I appreciate you for your help you and everyone on evo
I been on 250mg a week but dosed to 2 half ml injections a week. Should I be doing 300mg?@Snayaz your bloods are out of whack if you ask me
you should lower your doses and stay on sports TRT 300mgs testosterone/week
and calm your bloods down for 4 weeks before going further
and your diet training not clear on the udpates
how much you training? to train so hard to get alt ast up
@Snayaz 250mgs/week is fine just stay with 125/125 split but nothing else, no orals no hgh no insulin nothing, just fully detox right nowI been on 250mg a week but dosed to 2 half ml injections a week. Should I be doing 300mg?
Yeah I’m not planning on jumping on till things are sorted but remember I was using anadrol and anavar start and end of cycle. I train real hard and harder then most, this is why I train alone cause people can’t keep up.
Diet hasn’t changed much I only lowered carbs down a bit and same with protein. Example
200g chicken and 180g jasmine rice.
I will be adding more fruits and cranberry/pomegranate juice aswel
Aromasin 12.5mg twice a week
Caber I’m trying to find and buy asap
True.you're supposed to fast ahead of blood work so I'm not sure why they always pulled your dehydrated crap whenever a number is off
the truth is that bodybuilders have strained kidney levels
Im only using the test, no orals no gh no insulin. I stopped igf last week and I am using vitamins and a cycle support tablets right now. I’m using 12.5mg aromasin to lower estrogen and I have caber on Monday next week for high prolactin.@Snayaz 250mgs/week is fine just stay with 125/125 split but nothing else, no orals no hgh no insulin nothing, just fully detox right now
you doing some organ support?
@Skays you going to do the Dave cutting or bulking? because his cutting diets are mainly low carbs high fat it seems, even higher sodium then mostMorning guys
Bit of an update with bicep minor tear.
It’s healing real good, I am getting more range of motion back without any pain. I can finally wipe my ass properly without feeling any problem lol. I haven’t trained since Monday and don’t plan to train until Sunday and do legs.
Tonight I’ll be here at home tho just doing some upper body resistance band workout just to put some blood in the bicep to help with healing then some iastm/cupping with my physio friend after that.
I’ll give a layout of my diet now as I’ve dropped calories and carbs just so I don’t put much fat on but I have been doing cardio daily fasted just to help too.
Meal 1: 4 whole eggs 3egg whites/ 4 English muffins
Meal 2: 2 steak sandwiches (200g steak)
Meal 3: 200g chicken breast/ 180g jasmine rice
Meal 4 200g chicken breast/ 180g jasmine rice
Meal 5 250g Greek yoghurt 100g berries/ tbsp almond butter
Fruits are in there too tho it varies which meals I have them and they are (grapefruit/kiwis/banana)
VitaMins atm
Fish oil
Pre/pro/digestive enzyme mix
Psyllium husk
Vitamin d
Multi vitamins
Cycle safe
Nac
Shilajit
Saw palmetto
Next week I will be going back to training but it will be light work for the time being and machine/cable until I know for certain bicep is healed then I’ll work into heavier loads.
I also plan on doing a Dave palumbo style diet if anyone of you guys know what that is but breakfast and post workout will have carbs just not heavy. It’s just a mini little cut but for a few weeks tho the ide for it is to also help bloods a bit too since my body has taken in so many carbs throughout this cycle.
I’ll be doing his cutting bro. I have done it years ago with success but regardless if I lose a little size or not I don’t mind as I’ll be blasting Maby in 6 weeks once bloods are in normal range but for now I wanna get to a healthier weight. I’m almost 40 and I don’t wanna be hugeeeee forever lol leaner and some good size then maintain on trt.@Skays you going to do the Dave cutting or bulking? because his cutting diets are mainly low carbs high fat it seems, even higher sodium then most
meals though look good, clean
would like some meal pics if you can bro![]()
What’s not good?Not good
blood sugar issue I think @25homes meantWhat’s not good?
@Snayaz cutting is good waiting on your meals I can see you doing it rightI’ll be doing his cutting bro. I have done it years ago with success but regardless if I lose a little size or not I don’t mind as I’ll be blasting Maby in 6 weeks once bloods are in normal range but for now I wanna get to a healthier weight. I’m almost 40 and I don’t wanna be hugeeeee forever lol leaner and some good size then maintain on trt.
I’ll throw up some meals tomorro as I’ve already eaten half the meals for the day.
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