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mad2024

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Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks
 
mad2024 said:
Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks
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I'm going to refer to your original thread first for readers
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pct-clomid-hcg.101220/
 
mad2024 said:
Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks
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@mad2024 ok welcome back to EVO family and lets talk now. :)

PCT
Before we talk further on this, do you have blood work? any bloods at all.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more :)
 
Okay guys since the last thread thanks a lot for the support.
But everyone is just telling me I did extremely wrong okay I understood that ! Lets now see how we can get out of this situation, having my blood tests next week.
What is the perfect PCT everyone is telling about.

Plus on all platforms I see lots of people saying that HCG is very crucial in a PCT while here everyone is saying the opposite which creates a little confusion sorry for that.

Can anyone tell me whats thr perfect pct pattern and when and how should I start.

Thanks a lot
 
there is a lot of bad advice out there
I don't blame you for being frustrated
 
this same people telling you to use hcg in pct
are the same people who had to go on trt because they messed up
 
Rich Piana used to recommend hcg in pct too
how did that work out for him?
 
please don't pay attention to what others say
do what the science says to do
 
Im really thankful for all this support guys, lets please try to not lose the subject.

Okay now what and when should I start ?

Im off roids since 2 months now and its been 1 month since my last HCG shot.

To restart a proper pct, what and when should I start please ?

I have currently : Clomid , Anastrozole, proviron , NAC 600mg , ZMA. I live in France so some suppliments mentioned in the PCT sticky are not available, but will try to find the replacement. Ans note im currently not taking anything except ZMA and NAC
 
mad2024 said:
Okay guys since the last thread thanks a lot for the support.
But everyone is just telling me I did extremely wrong okay I understood that ! Lets now see how we can get out of this situation, having my blood tests next week.
What is the perfect PCT everyone is telling about.

Plus on all platforms I see lots of people saying that HCG is very crucial in a PCT while here everyone is saying the opposite which creates a little confusion sorry for that.

Can anyone tell me whats thr perfect pct pattern and when and how should I start.

Thanks a lot
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mad2024 said:
Im really thankful for all this support guys, lets please try to not lose the subject.

Okay now what and when should I start ?

Im off roids since 2 months now and its been 1 month since my last HCG shot.

To restart a proper pct, what and when should I start please ?

I have currently : Clomid , Anastrozole, proviron , NAC 600mg , ZMA. I live in France so some suppliments mentioned in the PCT sticky are not available, but will try to find the replacement. Ans note im currently not taking anything except ZMA and NAC
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@mad2024

I would start this:
week 1-2
5 caps hcgenerate ED
60mgs tamoxifen ED
25mgs clomid ED

after week 2 we mod doses but do 2 weeks and we can go from there
I still havent seen your diet training which is a HUGe factor in recovery
 
Eddie Haskell said:
@mad2024

I would start this:
week 1-2
5 caps hcgenerate ED
60mgs tamoxifen ED
25mgs clomid ED

after week 2 we mod doses but do 2 weeks and we can go from there
I still havent seen your diet training which is a HUGe factor in recovery
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Gonna start with this pattern, Nolvadex and Clomid are available but HCGenerate is not avaialbale in France , possible to know what should I replace it with ?
 
mad2024 said:
Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks
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@mad2024 Interesting to see the results of the blood work!
 
mad2024 said:
Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet: Daily 200g Carbs and 130 - 150g Protein , Im 75kg.
Training, Training 4 days a week now.
Cardio : not too much, I play soccer and run 2 times a week.

supplements
Currently only taking ZMA before sleep.
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@Eddie Haskell
 
mad2024 said:
Should get my blood test results in the upcoming days.

I checked for the n2generate, not possible to have any alternative as n2generate would cost me 160 Euros to be delivered to where I live in France.
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post bloods and we go from there @mad2024

plan for hcgenerate and get the budget, you get what you pay for
 
mad2024 said:
Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet: Daily 200g Carbs and 130 - 150g Protein , Im 75kg.
Training, Training 4 days a week now.
Cardio : not too much, I play soccer and run 2 times a week.

supplements
Currently only taking ZMA before sleep.
Click to expand...
@Masonic Bodybuilder
 
mad2024 said:
Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks
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@mad2024 keep us posted with your progress.......
 

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your body has to recover now
testosterone boosters are a must to get you back bouncing and feeling better
 
you need to get the proper blood work done
a lot of this stuff you did is great but it has nothing to do with your hormones which are what we want to focus on
 
we don't know much about your pituitary health
you didn't get all your hormone #'s checked
 
the good news so far is your testosterone levels are in line
that's definitely a good sign
 
I think that you are improving
otherwise your test levels would be in the tank
 
you will be fine things are progressing well
but next time you get blood work include everything make sure you tell your doctor
 
check out steve's bloodwork thread
it explains what you need to get
 
keep up with herbals
they are important in PCT
 
Wow thanks for the huge support guys.

Indeed I also feel way better than last week and I feel my energy level is back and yeah testosterone levels are back on line. I CAN ALSO FEEL IT 🚀.

Since laat week I started taking 3 pills of ZMA so I think alot of zinc is helping alot.
But ill get me a stronger testosterone booster as well.
And yes here in France doctors are shit, they dont know anything I swear one doctor asked me whats the meaning of anabolic steroids ! Ill ask my dr to prescribe me to check those too :
Estrogen E2
prolactin
LH
FSH
SHBG

will keep you updated with everything
 
mad2024 said:
Wow thanks for the huge support guys.

Indeed I also feel way better than last week and I feel my energy level is back and yeah testosterone levels are back on line. I CAN ALSO FEEL IT 🚀.

Since laat week I started taking 3 pills of ZMA so I think alot of zinc is helping alot.
But ill get me a stronger testosterone booster as well.
And yes here in France doctors are shit, they dont know anything I swear one doctor asked me whats the meaning of anabolic steroids ! Ill ask my dr to prescribe me to check those too :
Estrogen E2
prolactin
LH
FSH
SHBG

will keep you updated with everything
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@mad2024 you need to recheck the bloods with the above and get back to us

add ZMA higher dose 5 pills with quercetin
you also need 20mgs tamoxifen ED minimmum

you eating high protein? how much?
 
LevButlerov said:
@mad2024 you need to recheck the bloods with the above and get back to us

add ZMA higher dose 5 pills with quercetin
you also need 20mgs tamoxifen ED minimmum

you eating high protein? how much?
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Yeah im gonna ask my dr to prescribe me thoses tests next week.

Yeah im on 150g - 170g Protein Strictly
 
mad2024 said:
Yeah im gonna ask my dr to prescribe me thoses tests next week.

Yeah im on 150g - 170g Protein Strictly
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besides protein what you doing with food? @mad2024 carbs fats and what kind of foods

you cant get private blood work?
 
Vets got you
 
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