Approved Log My PCT Log

[mad2024]

Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks

I'm going to refer to your original thread first for readers
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/pct-clomid-hcg.101220/

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello Guys,


So I went on a 14 weeks cycle.
Dianabol for 4 weeks then Deca for 10 weeks and Sustanon for 14 weeks.

After my last shot, I waited 2 weeks then I started Clomid Everyday 50mg for 30 days.
NAC since the start of the Cycle till now still taking.
I was also taking proviron 1 pill everyday.

I also started HCG shots on 5000ui, 2 shots of 10000ui in 10 days between each shot.

Now im off everything, No roids and only taking NAC and ZMA.

the weird thing that I felt is, when I fist took the first HCG 5000ui shot , my balls went back big size right after it and I felt energy and sexually everything was great, after the second shot, everything went reverse. Smaller balls, Testosterone low count (waiting my test results but I can feel it), no sexual desire at all, not feeling any pleasure in sexual activity. But gradually its changing, yet the size of the balls is not going back as it was.

Its been a month like this. Since my last clomid and HCG intakes.

Do you think all of that is normal or should I check anything else or any clues.
Or whats my alternatives to do now

Thanks

@mad2024 ok welcome back to EVO family and lets talk now.

PCT
Before we talk further on this, do you have blood work? any bloods at all.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

thank you and share more

 

[stevesmi]

Please check my response and your other thread

 

[Mobster]

See the Perfect PCT sticky.

I've NEVER used HCG

 

[mad2024]

Okay guys since the last thread thanks a lot for the support.
But everyone is just telling me I did extremely wrong okay I understood that ! Lets now see how we can get out of this situation, having my blood tests next week.
What is the perfect PCT everyone is telling about.

Plus on all platforms I see lots of people saying that HCG is very crucial in a PCT while here everyone is saying the opposite which creates a little confusion sorry for that.

Can anyone tell me whats thr perfect pct pattern and when and how should I start.

Thanks a lot

 

[ceo]

Bros you listen to the wrong person
not your fault nobody playing the blame game

 

[ROIDDERS]

you can definitely do another PCT
start with a SERM and hcgenerate

 

[chesty]

there is a lot of bad advice out there
I don't blame you for being frustrated

 

[Ulter]

this same people telling you to use hcg in pct
are the same people who had to go on trt because they messed up

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

APPROVED LOG

 

[e2]

Rich Piana used to recommend hcg in pct too
how did that work out for him?

 

[2Thick]

the thing about rich piana and people like that is they are all blasting gear year round
so of course they recommend hcg out of ignorance

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

please don't pay attention to what others say
do what the science says to do

 

[Wootoom]

hcg causes suppression
so it will only delay recovery

 

[Masonic Bodybuilder]

Love to see a PCT log. It is an extremely important part of any cycle and often gets overlooked.

 

[mad2024]

Im really thankful for all this support guys, lets please try to not lose the subject.

Okay now what and when should I start ?

Im off roids since 2 months now and its been 1 month since my last HCG shot.

To restart a proper pct, what and when should I start please ?

I have currently : Clomid , Anastrozole, proviron , NAC 600mg , ZMA. I live in France so some suppliments mentioned in the PCT sticky are not available, but will try to find the replacement. Ans note im currently not taking anything except ZMA and NAC

 

[0xhex]

you should not start pct without pct result,depending on your cycle duration you need to wait at least between 4-8 week to start pct.
expecting results for starting pct => testo level should be minimum, when it reaches the ground point you can start the pct, only you need is clomid on pct

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Okay guys since the last thread thanks a lot for the support.
But everyone is just telling me I did extremely wrong okay I understood that ! Lets now see how we can get out of this situation, having my blood tests next week.
What is the perfect PCT everyone is telling about.

Plus on all platforms I see lots of people saying that HCG is very crucial in a PCT while here everyone is saying the opposite which creates a little confusion sorry for that.

Can anyone tell me whats thr perfect pct pattern and when and how should I start.

Thanks a lot

Im really thankful for all this support guys, lets please try to not lose the subject.

Okay now what and when should I start ?

Im off roids since 2 months now and its been 1 month since my last HCG shot.

To restart a proper pct, what and when should I start please ?

I have currently : Clomid , Anastrozole, proviron , NAC 600mg , ZMA. I live in France so some suppliments mentioned in the PCT sticky are not available, but will try to find the replacement. Ans note im currently not taking anything except ZMA and NAC

@mad2024

I would start this:
week 1-2
5 caps hcgenerate ED
60mgs tamoxifen ED
25mgs clomid ED

after week 2 we mod doses but do 2 weeks and we can go from there
I still havent seen your diet training which is a HUGe factor in recovery

 

[mad2024]

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet: Daily 200g Carbs and 130 - 150g Protein , Im 75kg.
Training, Training 4 days a week now.
Cardio : not too much, I play soccer and run 2 times a week.

supplements
Currently only taking ZMA before sleep.