You'd go nuts , 6 days of legs legs legs it is thenI can't miss an entire week of training though. That would hurt worse than the wrist lol.
You'd go nuts , 6 days of legs legs legs it is thenI can't miss an entire week of training though. That would hurt worse than the wrist lol.
Im really liking the TB 500 with the BPC, first time i tried it didn't do much, new source and they are awesome together. Way less Doms when using bothLog Day 165
Pretty big day of training yesterday. Went really hard and managed to train around the pain in my wrist and not make anything worse.
For the pressing I used my wrist wraps, for the row I used my straps, and for the laterals I threw in a wrist cuff. Seemed to work well except...I tweaked something in my shoulder. Maybe my form was off cuz of the cuff, I duno. I'm getting pain in my shoulder when my arm gets parallel to the joint. Pain is on the interior of the front delt. Hard to tell how bad it is cuz I am dealing with some DOMS from yesterday training. Feels like it's nothing major and should go away in a few days.
Tonight is supposed to be an arm day but with my wrist and shoulder now I'm gonna give it a break tonight. Work was really hard today with a lot of heavy pulling and carries so I feel I earned it lol. Tomorrow will be more of the same at work, so I guess 1 night off can't hurt. I can be sorta smart sometimes lol.
I've dealt with similar if not the same injuries multiple times before and I've always managed to train and work through them. Just need to keep up the BPC 157 and becareful not to make anything worse.
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I've had great experiences with both. For the minor stuff I use the BPC and when I get more serious injuries I bring out the big guns with the TB. Without them I'd miss days at work or just be suffering through it for a long time.Im really liking the TB 500 with the BPC, first time i tried it didn't do much, new source and they are awesome together. Way less Doms when using both
Rough stretch but you’re handling it the right way, backing off upper and letting the shoulder calm down is smart. That kind of movement with the garbage bags could easily tweak it, especially if you were already beat up from training. Bpc157 and tb500 should help push healing along, a lot of guys swear by that combo for these situations.Log Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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You should switch to 2x/week training rest core and cardio.I can't miss an entire week of training though. That would hurt worse than the wrist lol. I'll be good tho and drop anything that can hurt my wrist. Forearms are definitely off the table and I'm going to have to modify or replace a few other movements.
I'm on the treadmill as we speak lol.You should switch to 2x/week training rest core and cardio.
Cardio and core is a smart call till that shoulder chills out, no point forcing extensions or anything that’ll keep it irritated. Wrist bouncing back quick is a good sign, so just let the shoulder catch up and then you can ease legs back in. Better to miss a week than drag an injury out for months.I'm on the treadmill as we speak lol.
I don't think my shoulder can even handle a brace for leg extensions today so I'm going to wait and see tomorrow. Upper is outta the question now, no choice. I wonder if my shoulder would be alright if I just said ok when you said take a week of training lol.
Lots of cardio and sit-ups in my future. I'll add the legs back in as soon as the pain subsides a bit in the shoulder.
My wrist is already strong enough to carry multiple dinner plates again without any pain so that's a positive.
I'm also thinking it's better to let my body focus on healing the injuries vs trying to recover and heal together. Once the swelling goes down in going to try some physio tests to figure out what's going on. I have a good friend who's a PT so he can guide me on how to rehab this one.Cardio and core is a smart call till that shoulder chills out, no point forcing extensions or anything that’ll keep it irritated. Wrist bouncing back quick is a good sign, so just let the shoulder catch up and then you can ease legs back in. Better to miss a week than drag an injury out for months.@BeMe
Wow that bad!!! No good, hopefully no lasting damage, Shoulders are a prickdon't think my shoulder can even handle a brace for leg extensions
Yea I know..I had surgery on the other after I dislocated it a shit load of times. I told the story on the podcast actually.Wow that bad!!! No good, hopefully no lasting damage, Shoulders are a prick
That sucks @BeMe. It’s always something like this. I put a ladder rack on one of my trucks and now I hate hate hate getting anything heavy out of it.injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck.
That’s the right call, letting the body put full energy into healing first will get you back to proper training faster. Having a PT buddy walk you through the rehab is a big plus, you’ll get the right movements in without guessing and risking another setback.I'm also thinking it's better to let my body focus on healing the injuries vs trying to recover and heal together. Once the swelling goes down in going to try some physio tests to figure out what's going on. I have a good friend who's a PT so he can guide me on how to rehab this one.
Ya shoulda let the kid do the heavy lifting but I like to lead by example. I carried those bags up some stairs, too the truck, all fine. Carrying outta the truck to throw in the scrap pile...something went wrong. I think maybe my shoulder was just exhausted from training the night before and then yanking wires outta this burnt up house all day. Just a moment of weakness in the joint and boom.That sucks @BeMe. It’s always something like this. I put a ladder rack on one of my trucks and now I hate hate hate getting anything heavy out of it.
Well you are forced to deload truly now. I think you’ll heal quickly. Seems like you’re going to have to let your help carry the load at work and everything. I trained more people in the 5-7 years I was injured than the whole other 20+ years I was a foreman. I’m sure you’ll recover quickly
That’s the right call, letting the body put full energy into healing first will get you back to proper training faster. Having a PT buddy walk you through the rehab is a big plus, you’ll get the right movements in without guessing and risking another setback.
I would do daily infrared light therapy along with body massages and acupuncture if you can find it. @BeMe
Shoulders are so ridiculously complicated. One little tear, or some swelling. Cause all kinds of problems. When my herniated discs in my neck were bad, I count properly operate my arm. I thought I could, but all the nerves getting there signal, so things were popping out of place. PT had to show me with a mirror. My shoulder blade was popping out, and I was working like that. It hurt a lot because all those ligaments and tendons were all rubbing on things and going the wrong way. It took way too long to figure out that all the problems were coming from my neck. Way too long. Don’t rule it out.Ya shoulda let the kid do the heavy lifting but I like to lead by example. I carried those bags up some stairs, too the truck, all fine. Carrying outta the truck to throw in the scrap pile...something went wrong. I think maybe my shoulder was just exhausted from training the night before and then yanking wires outta this burnt up house all day. Just a moment of weakness in the joint and boom.
Yup theragun on an irritated spot can flare it up more, better to let it calm before hammering it again. Ice and just giving it a break usually does more than chasing it with gadgets.I'm not much of a believer in acupuncture LOL. I'm Asian and even I don't believe.
I hit it with a theragun when I got home and sat down but that made it worse I think lol. That was the point when I realized this is probably more than just some muscle soreness from training and work.
Once the information dies down though I'm going to start going to town on it with the theragun.
I was doing some research into red light panels but now that I have to drop four or five grand on a dental implant that purchases on pause for a while. The good red light panels are really expensive @LevButlerov
i learned a lot time ago our teeth are an investment. i didn't take care of my teeth after high school for a few years but it caught up to me. i broke a tooth as well about 5 years ago but they put in a crown and it wasn't so expensive. @BeMeLog Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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No do those even do anything?Yup theragun on an irritated spot can flare it up more, better to let it calm before hammering it again. Ice and just giving it a break usually does more than chasing it with gadgets.
Red light panels do help recovery but you’re right, the ones worth buying are pricey and not something you need right away, dental work takes priority. When the inflammation settles, ease back in slow so it doesn’t flare up again.
A thought, did you check amazon for infrared lamp? @BeMe
Yeah this one for me has always been kind of weak since I was like 19 or something and got hit in the mouth. It has a root canal right next to it that I totally forgot about. This one snapped right at the root. It was always kind of weak. I think I busted it eating that Chinese fried lobster at the wedding this weekend. They fry the shell and everything and I can tell where the meat was.i learned a lot time ago our teeth are an investment. i didn't take care of my teeth after high school for a few years but it caught up to me. i broke a tooth as well about 5 years ago but they put in a crown and it wasn't so expensive. @BeMe
i think mine went eating popcorn or nuts. i've def spent a fair share of $$$ over the years on teeth. a good dentist who is fairly priced is very important.Yeah this one for me has always been kind of weak since I was like 19 or something. It has a root canal right next to it that I totally forgot about. This one snapped right at the root. It was always kind of weak. I think I busted it eating that Chinese fried lobster at the wedding this weekend. They fry the shell and everything and I can tell where the meat was.
I have one. I use it. I don’t think it does nothing.No do those even do anything?
@BeMe bro no need to spend all that money on tooth. in texas we do it simple. you tie loop around tooth and tie rope to back of truck. then hit the gas and tooth pop right out easyLog Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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You've had a lot of improvements over the past year. @BeMe And you've been really consistent and working hard. So, I'm not surprised that you're dealing with some injuries like this, just make sure you baby them.Log Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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That's a glowing review lolI have one. I use it. I don’t think it does nothing.
Same way you guys do circumcisions right@BeMe bro no need to spend all that money on tooth. in texas we do it simple. you tie loop around tooth and tie rope to back of truck. then hit the gas and tooth pop right out easy
Gonna do my best but not training is killn me lolYou've had a lot of improvements over the past year. @BeMe And you've been really consistent and working hard. So, I'm not surprised that you're dealing with some injuries like this, just make sure you baby them.
I couldn’t spending $600 on something that is so difficult to quantify. I figure if the light is within the same spectrum it’s got to be good enough. The cats love it. I do use it all the time.That's a glowing review lol
This sucks to hear bro. I would blast the shit out of the BPC and TB. Have you ever tried the copper GHK-Cu with it too? I pin that shit right into the injury.Log Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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@BeMe It's not the worst thing in the world. A lot of the things are going through are just part of life. Trust me, the last thing you want to go through is what I went through with my ex-wife.Log Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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bros just be careful with your shoulder. you don't want to have big problems. and get that tooth taken care of @BeMeLog Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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it will be okay man @BeMe you will do fine on this. sometimes we need to take a step back to go 2 steps forwardLog Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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Naw never tried the GHKCu, I'm a bit iffy on it to be honest. I'm gonna hold off on that stuff until there's more longer term data on it.This sucks to hear bro. I would blast the shit out of the BPC and TB. Have you ever tried the copper GHK-Cu with it too? I pin that shit right into the injury.
I hear ya bro...definitely isn't all that bad in the greater picture of life. I'm doing my best to stay positive and take solace in the little things that are improving. My wrist has been getting better each day. I can raise my arm higher today then yesterday with less pain. Little wins@BeMe It's not the worst thing in the world. A lot of the things are going through are just part of life. Trust me, the last thing you want to go through is what I went through with my ex-wife.
Yea I just got the quote today. Gonna run me 4 grand but they can extract and implant the same day. It's called an auto implant. Doing it this way I don't need to wear a fake tooth for 3 months and then go back later for an implant. Also means one anesthesia instead of two.bros just be careful with your shoulder. you don't want to have big problems. and get that tooth taken care of @BeMe
Ya bro. Just makes us smarter and stronger at the end of the day. The toughest thing is making myself not train. I started thinking today I can actually do curls and tricep pull downs and won't hurt my shoulder...but that's not ideal so I gotta stop myself. Just gonna hit some hamstring curls and leg extensions with the treadmill tonight.it will be okay man @BeMe you will do fine on this. sometimes we need to take a step back to go 2 steps forward
Yes they do actuallyNo do those even do anything?
Good move stacking tb500 with bpc, that combo usually speeds up soft tissue healing and helps with the kind of shoulder issue you’re describing. No need to jump GH from 2iu to 4iu right now, higher doesn’t always mean faster recovery and it’ll just bloat costs.Log Day 167
Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH
Man am I glad the work week is over. Working with this bad wrist and shoulder was pretty tough. A lot of my work is overhead so grinding through the painful part in the range of motion to get overhead and work was pretty tough.
The shoulder is feeling significantly better today than yesterday. I was able to tie my boots without wincing this morning. The pain has narrowed to a very small section in my range of motion. I can get to 90° now with no pain, but from 90° to about 135° is pretty painful, almost feels like an impingement. Hopefully that's just still swelling and it'll settle down.
Tb500 just arrived then I got to reconstituting. Going to run 1g EOD along side my 750mcg of BPC ED.
I was thinking, GH improves recovery, so should I maybe up my GH dose to 4iu ED while I'm injured?
Avoided training last night, second night in a row. Stuck to just treadmill. I'm going to do some light leg work today and hit the treadmill again.
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Yep that's the plan. I'm gonna be smart for a change lol.Good move stacking tb500 with bpc, that combo usually speeds up soft tissue healing and helps with the kind of shoulder issue you’re describing. No need to jump GH from 2iu to 4iu right now, higher doesn’t always mean faster recovery and it’ll just bloat costs.
Stay steady on 2iu, let the peptides do their job, and focus on blood flow with light legs and treadmill until that painful range clears. Once swelling calms and motion improves, then you can ease pressing back in.@BeMe we have time, let the inflammation heal up a bit.
That’s the right call, better to let the arms settle than push through and make it worse. Light legs and some treadmill or hiking will still keep you moving without stressing recovery. A couple days at the desk won’t hurt, you’ll come back fresher for bis and tris next week.Yep that's the plan. I'm gonna be smart for a change lol.
I did try a couple 25lb curls...but I shut that down quick. I think I'll be able to add bis and tris back in a few days but I'm giving my body a break. Light leg work today and I'm taking the weekend off. I have so much office work to catch up on anyway. I'll be a desk dude this weekend and just hike and treadmill
bro no you just bite it off easy. just like biting off steer's ballsSame way you guys do circumcisions right
bros dayum. that hardcore. a trick i do is i drive south of border and see a dentist for expensive shit. cost like 1/5th the priceYea I just got the quote today. Gonna run me 4 grand but they can extract and implant the same day. It's called an auto implant. Doing it this way I don't need to wear a fake tooth for 3 months and then go back later for an implant. Also means one anesthesia instead of two.
good to hear this.Ya bro. Just makes us smarter and stronger at the end of the day. The toughest thing is making myself not train. I started thinking today I can actually do curls and tricep pull downs and won't hurt my shoulder...but that's not ideal so I gotta stop myself. Just gonna hit some hamstring curls and leg extensions with the treadmill tonight.
bro stop fapping all day and wrist will healI hear ya bro...definitely isn't all that bad in the greater picture of life. I'm doing my best to stay positive and take solace in the little things that are improving. My wrist has been getting better each day. I can raise my arm higher today then yesterday with less pain. Little wins
Your wife crushed it with that spread, that’s a legit feast. Hot pot with all that variety hits protein, flavor, and comfort all in one, you’re lucky she puts that kind of effort into the food.I mentioned to my wife we haven't had homemade hot pot in a while and she went all out. We're doing a ton yum soup with mushrooms, shrimp, fresh snapper, beef brisket, fish balls, and tofu. My wife went all out
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Canadians actually do that too. I know a bunch of guys who went to Mexico for dental work.bros dayum. that hardcore. a trick i do is i drive south of border and see a dentist for expensive shit. cost like 1/5th the price
I blame your profile pic for that lolbro stop fapping all day and wrist will heal
It was delicious! I'm so stuffed lol.Your wife crushed it with that spread, that’s a legit feast. Hot pot with all that variety hits protein, flavor, and comfort all in one, you’re lucky she puts that kind of effort into the food.@BeMe
That's fair bro for sure. I like that you're cautious and wait for data. I am officially a huge proponent of BPC/TB after it worked like a small miracle for me. I think it is single handedly responsible for me being able to finish my log and blast as a "win".Naw never tried the GHKCu, I'm a bit iffy on it to be honest. I'm gonna hold off on that stuff until there's more longer term data on it.
I've run BPC and TB many times in the past and always had good results. My TB just arrived today and it's reconstituting as we speak.
bro in prison you get caught fapping on shower its insta-shank to handI blame your profile pic for that lol
Tough gig on the price tag but this process is what i would do to.. i hate having to run multiple appointments for the same thing.Yea I just got the quote today. Gonna run me 4 grand but they can extract and implant the same day. It's called an auto implant. Doing it this way I don't need to wear a fake tooth for 3 months and then go back later for an implant. Also means one anesthesia instead of two.
work around themGonna do my best but not training is killn me lol
Dosing to the peptides?That's fair bro for sure. I like that you're cautious and wait for data. I am officially a huge proponent of BPC/TB after it worked like a small miracle for me. I think it is single handedly responsible for me being able to finish my log and blast as a "win".
What dosing do you use just curious, and do you do it b.i.d. or all at once ED?
Better the hand then what's in my hand.bro in prison you get caught fapping on shower its insta-shank to hand
Yea and having to recover twice. Hopefully this works out as planned.Tough gig on the price tag but this process is what i would do to.. i hate having to run multiple appointments for the same thing.
I was training around the wrist really well.work around them
I think I mentioned this, but when I herniated the discs in my neck, I thought it was a shoulder injury. They had me bouncing from specialist to specialist and it wound up taking a really long time to diagnose, which caused a lot of issues and the pain migrated around as I was compensating from lack of mobility and trying to avoid irritation. If you can rule that out right away, I would definitely do that. It would change your entire rehab and hopefully get you getting better right away instead of worseI was training around the wrist really well.
The shoulder is killn any chance of back or chest training tho. Couldn't even brace myself for leg extensions the other day.
Hit some legs last night which was nice. The shoulder is getting a bit better each day.
Good dosing I like it.Dosing to the peptides?
Tb500 is 1g EOD
BPC is 350mcg 2x daily...or just 700mcg when I forget to pin in the AM before work
Im pretty positive it's my shoulder. I'm feel the pain right in my shoulder and it's only there when I raise my arm from 90° to 135°. My range of motion is improving day to day. I only have like a 4 outta 10 pain in that range now and it's all good the rest of the time.I think I mentioned this, but when I herniated the discs in my neck, I thought it was a shoulder injury. They had me bouncing from specialist to specialist and it wound up taking a really long time to diagnose, which caused a lot of issues and the pain migrated around as I was compensating from lack of mobility and trying to avoid irritation. If you can rule that out right away, I would definitely do that. It would change your entire rehab and hopefully get you getting better right away instead of worse
Ya it's the protocol I've used for years now. I started with these peptides like 5 or 6 years ago and they've really saved my ass at work. Things that would take weeks to recover from heal up in a week a lot of the time. Working around injuries is a bitch but these peptides make it a lot easier.Good dosing I like it.
The initial acute event felt like pain in my shoulder socket. It happened when I was lifting a tool from one side of a pole to the other, leaning out of a basket, with my arms extended to reach it. Have done it a million times. The tool is about 70 pounds. I thought I heard the sound of a pencil breaking and pain shot from my shoulder socket to all through my arm and I couldn’t really use the arm. We went to the emergency room. They didn’t find anything wrong with my shoulder and they thought I was seeking drugs. I went home with some Tylenol 3 and slumped on the couch for a few days and the pain migrated from inside my shoulder, to across my shoulder blades, and my left trap was hot and swollen and tight. Weeks or months later, most of the symptoms were numbness and tingling in my left arm. That got progressively worse to the point that I couldn’t sleep and it was making me crazy. I was able to get that to go mostly away by switching from vaping nicotine to vaping cbd. A LOT OF IT. It really brought the inflammation down. It was months later that PT showed me how my nerves weren’t firing so my shoulder blade was popping out. I had to learn new neck posture and really force my shoulders back and down. I never felt it in my neckIm pretty positive it's my shoulder. I'm feel the pain right in my shoulder and it's only there when I raise my arm from 90° to 135°. My range of motion is improving day to day. I only have like a 4 outta 10 pain in that range now and it's all good the rest of the time.
What was the pain like when you herniated that disc?
Solid first log, manstats and routine look dialed in, and I like how thorough you are with supplements and tracking. Primo + test should treat you well if you’re patient. Excited to see how your progress unfolds—keep us posted!
Appreciate the detailed breakdown, bromakes a lot of sense. I’ll definitely keep an eye on E2 before making any changes. I like the “small changes, small mistakes” approach — way smarter for long-term progress. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Just incase the fuse burns short with the dentist and you give him the whats upYea and having to recover twice. Hopefully this works out as planned.
The only thing that sucks is I was gonna start my Tren cycle in the beginning of November but I'll be getting this implant done sometime around then as well. Might need to postpone my cycle start.
@BeMe glad to hear that the wrist is doing better! You’re doing great man. Keep it upLog Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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Omg that pencil breaking sound description gave me the chills...sorry that happened to you bro.The initial acute event felt like pain in my shoulder socket. It happened when I was lifting a tool from one side of a pole to the other, leaning out of a basket, with my arms extended to reach it. Have done it a million times. The tool is about 70 pounds. I thought I heard the sound of a pencil breaking and pain shot from my shoulder socket to all through my arm and I couldn’t really use the arm. We went to the emergency room. They didn’t find anything wrong with my shoulder and they thought I was seeking drugs. I went home with some Tylenol 3 and slumped on the couch for a few days and the pain migrated from inside my shoulder, to across my shoulder blades, and my left trap was hot and swollen and tight. Weeks or months later, most of the symptoms were numbness and tingling in my left arm. That got progressively worse to the point that I couldn’t sleep and it was making me crazy. I was able to get that to go mostly away by switching from vaping nicotine to vaping cbd. A LOT OF IT. It really brought the inflammation down. It was months later that PT showed me how my nerves weren’t firing so my shoulder blade was popping out. I had to learn new neck posture and really force my shoulders back and down. I never felt it in my neck
Wow you're way smarter than me @Allupfromhere cuz I was seriously confused haha. I thought he was responding to someone else's log in my log.Welcome to evo bro! But i think you may have missed the dates your responding to lol. This was the start for brother @BeMe a long time ago... much has happened since this time, alot!
Glad to have you around though brother and that the logs can helphave you started a cycle/log currently? If not and your looking too start up a new thread bro and reach out if you need help doing so.
I think TB500 is more soft tissue. Might help with any inflammation I get. My understanding is the procedure is pretty straightforward. They said it's a pretty quick in and out thing so hopefully that means there isn't much recovery. I remember getting my wisdom teeth out when I was young and that sucked hahaJust incase the fuse burns short with the dentist and you give him the whats upnah only kidding.
If the dates were running that close anyway just get the tooth done so you dont have to try and navigate them both at the same time.
Could tb500 still assist with recovery in this circumstance?
Thanks bro! Just gotta control the urge to train and let these healing peptides do their job.@BeMe glad to hear that the wrist is doing better! You’re doing great man. Keep it up
Oh that sound… was In. My. Brain. It was not cool at all. I’ve been pretty damn hurry before and not even realized it until later, this was not one of those times hahahahathat pencil breaking sound description gave me the chills
That’s encouraging!overhead press movement and it's not horribly painful
I couldn't tell you one way or another cuz I've been vaping solid for the last 6 years since I quit smoking. I haven't taken a single day off a being so I don't know what it feels like anymore to be a non vaper lol. I am trying to use the pouches more to get off the vapes if I can.Oh that sound… was In. My. Brain. It was not cool at all. I’ve been pretty damn hurry before and not even realized it until later, this was not one of those times hahahaha
That’s encouraging!
You know I really think I get a huge inflammation response from vaping. I’m mostly nicotine free, but sometimes I crack and it’s better for me and the general public if a have some. And every time, writing a week or two, a lot of my pain comes back, and the gums around my wisdom teeth swell up. If I keep going I’ll have full blown arthritis and all the bad ass stuff I do, impossible. Over. I can do my job but that’s about it and I feel like my joints are made out of glass and one wrong move and I’m done. I think there must be some combination of genetics that causes me a really high inflammation response, and I know that’s a thing I just never did get my genes studied. I do often wonder if other people aren’t getting it too, but they aren’t feeling it as much as me because they aren’t as damaged![]()
I wore patches with a piece of KT tape over them for years. I could even go barefooting with them. I recommend it to anyone. Just don’t have any other type of nicotine when you have the patch on. All you’ll do is raise your tolerance to the moon. I’ll sleep with it on even, and I’ll feel really good! It’s something you might want to consider, vaping is less harsh than smoking but…. You’re still inhaling a TON of weird stuff man. There’s no way we’re getting off for free on this. For me, I can feel the difference big time, but before that I smoked or vaped consistently like you, except of course when I was in jail and got really healthy lolI couldn't tell you one way or another cuz I've been vaping solid for the last 6 years since I quit smoking. I haven't taken a single day off a being so I don't know what it feels like anymore to be a non vaper lol. I am trying to use the pouches more to get off the vapes if I can.
I'm pretty sure they're allowed to put stuff in American vapes that you can't put in Canadian vapes. I know our government banned a whole lot of stuff that went into vapes years ago. We can't even buy vapes with more than 20mg nicotine levels. I used to vape on 60mg. They turned me into a chain vaper
She is the bestIt was delicious! I'm so stuffed lol.
Ya I'm really lucky with the food she cooks. If it were just me I'd be eating chicken breast with rice and broccoli every night lol.
My client went to Mexico for dental work the other monthCanadians actually do that too. I know a bunch of guys who went to Mexico for dental work.
bro you look at someone wrong in prison you get shank instantlyBetter the hand then what's in my hand.
What it I look you in the eyes when I'm doing it? That's cool right lol
What if I look at you right?bro you look at someone wrong in prison you get shank instantly
hahahaWhat if I look at you right?
I had a wuick question in my log post today. I missed my test injection on Thursday cuz I had bloodwork today. I'm going 70mg EOD right now so regular schedule pin tonight.hahahaLOL!!!!! you made me laugh!
bro nobody look at each other right. another thing too if you walking by and accidentally bump me then we gonna go at it. that disrespect.What if I look at you right?
Only the flower scented stuff for you right? Reminds you of the sound of music?bro nobody look at each other right. another thing too if you walking by and accidentally bump me then we gonna go at it. that disrespect.
another thing is bringing wrong soap to shower time.
focus on improving mobility and flexibility in the mean time. some light yogaI was training around the wrist really well.
The shoulder is killn any chance of back or chest training tho. Couldn't even brace myself for leg extensions the other day.
Hit some legs last night which was nice. The shoulder is getting a bit better each day.
Yea unfortunately I'm very familiar with shoulder rehab. I had surgery on my right shoulder. This is my good shoulder thats messed up this time.focus on improving mobility and flexibility in the mean time. some light yoga
Thanks bro. I'd need atleast another 25 good pounds for that though lol.You look good man! That’s just how you walk around. You could be a body double for an action movie no problem hahaha
No way. You’re already past Fight Club physique. You’re there. What’s your genre? Cop gone vigilante? You got that easyatleast another 25 good pounds for that though lol.
Take this as the bodies warning brother your red lining the body and not taking enough time off the the injuries are starting, i hope you rest a bit more and recover brother, a tear depending on how bad is nothing to play with, i had 3 of them at one time and surgery was the only solution.Log Day 166
Feel like I'm being a bummer with all this bad news but the hits keep coming. First my wrist, then my shoulder yesterday, and today I found out I have a broken tooth and need an implant. It's from an shot to the face about 20 years ago but I bit into something and loosened it up again. No saving the tooth. Looking at a 4-5 thousand dollar bill. They say bad things come in threes so hopefully that's it.
My wrist is getting better, but my shoulder is actually pretty bad today. I can't raise it up past my chest without a lot of pain. I think I maybe have some serious inflammation in there cuz advil helps. Could be an impingement or a tear. Not sure yet. Going to wait a couple days and start doing some of the mobility tests.
Looks like the universe is trying to tell me to listen to @LevButlerov advice. No more upper training for me for a bit. The wrist I can train around but the shoulder is a no go.
I was thinking back yesterday and I don't think I injured my shoulder training. It wasn't bothering me at work all day but when I got inside at home it was killing me. I think I injured it lifting some really heavy bags of garbage out of my truck. I was doing the swing over the shoulder Santa carrying sack movement to carry the bags and I think I did it then. Sucks.
Got some more BPC 157 and TB 500 on the way to help speed things up. Hopefully I can get over this shoulder problem quick cuz it really hampers my work.
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I didnt see it strange, my apologies.I had a wuick question in my log post today. I missed my test injection on Thursday cuz I had bloodwork today. I'm going 70mg EOD right now so regular schedule pin tonight.
Should I double up to make up for the missed injection on Thursday @LevButlerov
Not sure what I should do cuz I'm used to pinning 2x week
Good jump on the leg extension, right leg moving 90 vs left at 120 shows progress is real. Shoulder healing well if you’re pressing overhead again with less pain, that’s a good sign. But I thought you had the wrist issue?Log Day 168
Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH
Managed to get a little training done last night. My shoulder was feeling better enough to the point where I could brace myself on the leg extension machine again. I did some of the single leg sets. My right knee seems to be progressing which is really good. Got up to 90 lbs yesterday. Still a far cry from the 120 my left leg is doing but it's a good jump from last week. I think the extra training is paying off.
I really shouldn't have trained yesterday though, because I had blood work this morning whoops. It wasn't anything too crazy training wise so hopefully it doesn't mess up my blood markers too much.
The shoulder still getting better day by day. I can do an overhead press motion now without too much pain. The range where it hurts is getting smaller too.
I missed a test dose I'm Thursday cuz I had the bloodwork today. Should I double dose tonight to make up for that missed pin? When I was pinning twice a week I'd just pin a day later but now that I'm pinning EOD I'm not exactly sure what to do.
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I'm feeling like it's not a tear, or at worst maybe a micro. Shoulders already feeling pretty strong again today. I took 4 days off and I'm feeling a lot better. Got the BPC and TB doing work for me.Take this as the bodies warning brother your red lining the body and not taking enough time off the the injuries are starting, i hope you rest a bit more and recover brother, a tear depending on how bad is nothing to play with, i had 3 of them at one time and surgery was the only solution.
No worries. We already determined you're a human and not an AI lolI didnt see it strange, my apologies.
You should double up today to make up for the missed shot, no issues@BeMe
The wrist has gotten a lot better since starting the BPC 157 a week ago. Still some minor pain if I push it but it's feeling about 80% back to normal. I'll probably wait another week before I start my forearm training again though.Good jump on the leg extension, right leg moving 90 vs left at 120 shows progress is real. Shoulder healing well if you’re pressing overhead again with less pain, that’s a good sign. But I thought you had the wrist issue?
Missing a pin isn’t the end of the world, no issues, I would double up next pin.@BeMe
I would still be careful with the wrist, give it at least 1 more weekThe wrist has gotten a lot better since starting the BPC 157 a week ago. Still some minor pain if I push it but it's feeling about 80% back to normal. I'll probably wait another week before I start my forearm training again though.
I didn't do any overhead presses I can just do the motion without any pain. Still going to hold off on actually training shoulders or chest another day. I'll probably start back light on Tuesday and see how the shoulder feels.
I'd double up bro and then continue on status quo. My two centsI had a wuick question in my log post today. I missed my test injection on Thursday cuz I had bloodwork today. I'm going 70mg EOD right now so regular schedule pin tonight.
Should I double up to make up for the missed injection on Thursday @LevButlerov
Not sure what I should do cuz I'm used to pinning 2x week
Can you describe how you know your E2 is low? I know when mine is but I'd love to hear what others feel when there's is. I'm more irritable and my libido goes down.I'm feeling like it's not a tear, or at worst maybe a micro. Shoulders already feeling pretty strong again today. I took 4 days off and I'm feeling a lot better. Got the BPC and TB doing work for me.
I'm pretty sure my e2 is low. I got bloodwork yesterday and hopefully that will give me some answers
I'll be smart, I promise. The universe already punished me once for not taking your advice lolI would still be careful with the wrist, give it at least 1 more weekreally wait the week out and slow on the upper please.
Creaky joints, mood feels a bit down, libido is a bit down. It's kinda like an overall less positive feeling in my mind and body. Duno for sure if it's low estrogen but my bloodwork will tell me for sure tomorrow. The symptoms I'm dealing with tick all the low e2 boxes for sure.Can you describe how you know your E2 is low? I know when mine is but I'd love to hear what others feel when there's is. I'm more irritable and my libido goes down.
That makes perfect sense to me bro.Creaky joints, mood feels a bit down, libido is a bit down. It's kinda like an overall less positive feeling in my mind and body. Duno for sure if it's low estrogen but my bloodwork will tell me for sure tomorrow. The symptoms I'm dealing with tick all the low e2 boxes for sure.
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