Approved Log My Testosterone enanthate Cycle Log

[pr0doggy]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout

Day 31 - Morning after

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
View attachment 135375

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135376

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135377

Day 31 - Morning after

View attachment 135378

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

Welcome to EVO brother!

Congrats on one of the best first log posts I've ever read! You definitely have your shit squared away. You found the right place too trust me. I've been doing 30+ years and trust me when I say STAY here on EVO. It's a hot mess out there right now and you'll find real people who care here with sports science degrees and 1000's of years of experience.

You look great brother, some quality mass and density built, clearly.

Just really quick... your e2 is through the roof!

Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)

God yes! But I'd switch to aromasin.

Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?

No but you should have ran aromasin from the start at 12.5mg EOD and then checked bloods to see if it was keeping e2 in check. Now we're in catch up mode so I'd increase your adex to 0.5mg eod for a couple 2-3 weeks and get your e2 checked again. Pay out of pocket if you have to. Having your e2 at twice the normal range for too long can some serious side effects and long term issues.

Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)

Not enough now (see above), that woulda been fine at the start though.

Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

Bloat = high estrogen
Anxiety = high estrogen
High BP = Testosterone
Itchy nips = gyno forming, aromatization in full swing

Increase frequency of test to daily

Probably a good idea at this point, keep spikes to a minimum and keep a steady state.

Support Supplements:

One thing I learned on here and it was invaluable is that digestion, and specifically of proteins in the gut, is often overlooked. Get yourself some raw psyllium husk and apple cider vinegar. I take 15g before each meal and I eat 2MAD, you can get by yourself with at least 5g before each meal (in water swirl and chug). I take a swig of ACV before each meal as well but one tablespoon is the recommended dosage.

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

If you wanna go deep with this log we're ready to go deep with you. So lay out every workout sets and reps and exercise choice for us to help you out with that too.

Check my log if you want or you can check any of these for examples too but what you've got going so far is excellent. I'll be following this one brother! Welcome to the family!

P.S. How did you hear about EVO? @LevButlerov tag for our your mod que @BeMe Check this guy out! Throw some of your new MOD knowledge his way! We got ourselves a keep here!

Here are examples of LOG Journals you can choose to use as your template:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should. This podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

 

[pr0doggy]

Welcome to EVO brother!

Congrats on one of the best first log posts I've ever read! You definitely have your shit squared away. You found the right place too trust me. I've been doing 30+ years and trust me when I say STAY here on EVO. It's a hot mess out there right now and you'll find real people who care here with sports science degrees and 1000's of years of experience.

You look great brother, some quality mass and density built, clearly.

Just really quick... your e2 is through the roof!


God yes! But I'd switch to aromasin.

No but you should have ran aromasin from the start at 12.5mg EOD and then checked bloods to see if it was keeping e2 in check. Now we're in catch up mode so I'd increase your adex to 0.5mg eod for a couple 2-3 weeks and get your e2 checked again. Pay out of pocket if you have to. Having your e2 at twice the normal range for too long can some serious side effects and long term issues.

Not enough now (see above), that woulda been fine at the start though.

Bloat = high estrogen
Anxiety = high estrogen
High BP = Testosterone
Itchy nips = gyno forming, aromatization in full swing


Probably a good idea at this point, keep spikes to a minimum and keep a steady state.


One thing I learned on here and it was invaluable is that digestion, and specifically of proteins in the gut, is often overlooked. Get yourself some raw psyllium husk and apple cider vinegar. I take 15g before each meal and I eat 2MAD, you can get by yourself with at least 5g before each meal (in water swirl and chug). I take a swig of ACV before each meal as well but one tablespoon is the recommended dosage.


If you wanna go deep with this log we're ready to go deep with you. So lay out every workout sets and reps and exercise choice for us to help you out with that too.

Check my log if you want or you can check any of these for examples too but what you've got going so far is excellent. I'll be following this one brother! Welcome to the family!

P.S. How did you hear about EVO? @LevButlerov tag for our your mod que @BeMe Check this guy out! Throw some of your new MOD knowledge his way! We got ourselves a keep here!

Here are examples of LOG Journals you can choose to use as your template:
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

P.S. are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should. This podcast is about steroids, sarms, peptides, and bodybuilding:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

P.P.S. download our eBooks and learn more:
https://irongorillas.com

Thanks for the detailed reply, brother.

I hear you on the use of AI. I followed a "Your First Cycle" guide on reddit (lol) and read that I should just take AI when symptoms occur which in hindsight, I shouldn't have listened to and should have just did it from the start.

A few questions though:

1. Why switch to Aromasin? What's the difference?
2. Do I keep doing 0.5 EOD until I get my hands on Aromasin?
3. Do I just swap it out upon getting my hands on it? As in just drop the Arimidex and start taking 12.5mg Aromasin.

On your other points, I will definitely increase dosing to daily for now, thanks bro. And will also work on my workout log. Will just look back at my own notes (I write them down on a notebook old-school style lol). I'll try to clean it up as much as possible because at one point I was doing trial and error to help manage my sciatica and AC joint problems. Will update ASAP.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
View attachment 135375

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135376

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135377

Day 31 - Morning after

View attachment 135378

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

welcome to the EVO family @pr0doggy thank you for sharing. I'm going to give you an answer below but before we start, I'd like to ask you a favor, please don't use chatgpt or ai to create posts. We would like to talk to you in your own tone not to ai, I know you just "cleaned up" your message but no matter what it looks like post it, we'd like to have a convo with you as a man to man, EVO brother to EVO brother not talking to ai

You’ve done well structuring this 1st full cycle and tracking bloods early, that’s exactly how to do it. Very pro of you!

The recomp plan at 300 mg test is fine for now, and the 0.5 mg arimidex 2x/week should lower e2 but IMO, you can do with 0.25mgs arimidex 2x/week without an issue.
Keep MK677 nutrobal only until the vial is gone, and use it PM only pre bed.

Physique wise you’ve made visible progress already, your week 4 pics show thicker delts, fuller arms, and tighter midsection. You’re definitely bigger and leaner even with the water layer, and the structure looks more athletic now. Very much a win!

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)

sure

• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)

try 0.25mgs 2x/week

• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?

keep it at 300mgs and pin EOD

• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

you should try to recomp at this stage but to do that we need to see your diet in more details and macros, as well as training details

@BeMe @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

 

[toddthelineman]

Nice arms. Only gonna get better

 

[pr0doggy]

welcome to the EVO family @pr0doggy thank you for sharing. I'm going to give you an answer below but before we start, I'd like to ask you a favor, please don't use chatgpt or ai to create posts. We would like to talk to you in your own tone not to ai, I know you just "cleaned up" your message but no matter what it looks like post it, we'd like to have a convo with you as a man to man, EVO brother to EVO brother not talking to ai

You’ve done well structuring this 1st full cycle and tracking bloods early, that’s exactly how to do it. Very pro of you!

The recomp plan at 300 mg test is fine for now, and the 0.5 mg arimidex 2x/week should lower e2 but IMO, you can do with 0.25mgs arimidex 2x/week without an issue.
Keep MK677 nutrobal only until the vial is gone, and use it PM only pre bed.

Physique wise you’ve made visible progress already, your week 4 pics show thicker delts, fuller arms, and tighter midsection. You’re definitely bigger and leaner even with the water layer, and the structure looks more athletic now. Very much a win!



sure

try 0.25mgs 2x/week

keep it at 300mgs and pin EOD

you should try to recomp at this stage but to do that we need to see your diet in more details and macros, as well as training details

@BeMe @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz

Hahaha, you caught me there! But I yes, AI was used to format it. I like to keep things orderly.

Noted on your comments! A few questions:

• I've already taken 0.5mgs arimidex today. Should I lower it to 0.25mg on my next dose? Or keep 0.5mg 2x this week then proceed with 0.25mg 2x starting next week?
• When is it ideal to retest E2? I was thinking after 2 weeks on AI.

On diet and workout, will polish it out through this week and share accordingly.

Thanks for the support!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hahaha, you caught me there! But I yes, AI was used to format it. I like to keep things orderly.

no problem its best we talk person to person so real info is shared in the EVO family @pr0doggy

• I've already taken 0.5mgs arimidex today. Should I lower it to 0.25mg on my next dose? Or keep 0.5mg 2x this week then proceed with 0.25mg 2x starting next week?

next dose cut it down to .25mgs

• When is it ideal to retest E2? I was thinking after 2 weeks on AI.

lets wait at least 2-3 weeks.

On diet and workout, will polish it out through this week and share accordingly.

Thanks for the support!

Please share as you go, we are waiting
EVO family support your way!

 

[pr0doggy]

Nice arms. Only gonna get better

thanks brother! hoping to keep making gains

 

[Allupfromhere]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
View attachment 135375

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135376

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135377

Day 31 - Morning after

View attachment 135378

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

Chat Gtp aside this is still a proper killer of a log intro brother it does show your initial commitment to your journey and structure.
Sorry to here about the wedding bro but the best thing you could have done is exactly what your doing.

Dont let life keep you in the dumps bro, you can create all the comeback you have to if **you** choose too. No one can take that away from you.

Lets see you dig deep here brother put it the work and you will get the returns. Evo fam will have your back the entire way no questions. What you get back what you put in brother.

Lets see some training and day to day nutrition as well

Cant wait to support yoh in the complete rebuild of the best version of you. Light it up brother lets go

 

[HarleyGuy]

Hahaha, you caught me there! But I yes, AI was used to format it. I like to keep things orderly.

Noted on your comments! A few questions:

• I've already taken 0.5mgs arimidex today. Should I lower it to 0.25mg on my next dose? Or keep 0.5mg 2x this week then proceed with 0.25mg 2x starting next week?
• When is it ideal to retest E2? I was thinking after 2 weeks on AI.

On diet and workout, will polish it out through this week and share accordingly.

Thanks for the support!

When in doubt go with what @LevButlerov advises. Adex is strong strong so he's right to start low and slow but that e2 does have to come down.

And I mentioned switching to aromasin as it's less aggressive and is more forgiving if you want to run it low dose for peace of mind on an aromatizing cycle if you can't get bloodwork, whereas adex is faster acting which with your e2 levels now adex is what you want.

 

[Mobster]

What do you mean by bloat?

 

[pr0doggy]

What do you mean by bloat?

Mostly just my face and midsection feeling very puffy in the morning. It’s subsided a lot recently though when I introduced electrolytes and less sodium in my meals

 

[stevesmi]

Mostly just my face and midsection feeling very puffy in the morning. It’s subsided a lot recently though when I introduced electrolytes and less sodium in my meals

@pr0doggy a lot of people are the opposite. they will get more inflammation as the day goes on and they eat. so this is very interesting

 

[pr0doggy]

@pr0doggy a lot of people are the opposite. they will get more inflammation as the day goes on and they eat. so this is very interesting

Oh yeah? I’ll observe more. Usually it gets worse whenever I eat high sodium meal. But normally, my sodium is in check

 

[pr0doggy]

First purchase from approved suppliers here. Telmisartin and cialis from @UGL OZ

Also just ordered ralox and nebivolol from @Wolfenstein

I know @LevButlerov suggestion was just to lower e2 via Arimidex 0.25mg weekly but just wanna have something on hand in case gyno does show up.

Most of what I ordered here are so I have them just in case I’ll need them. Hopefully I don’t except for the cialis lol.

 

[stevesmi]

Oh yeah? I’ll observe more. Usually it gets worse whenever I eat high sodium meal. But normally, my sodium is in check

then that is linked to electrolyte imbalance. its something you would need to play with

 

[ceo]

First purchase from approved suppliers here. Telmisartin and cialis from @UGL OZ

Also just ordered ralox and nebivolol from @Wolfenstein

I know @LevButlerov suggestion was just to lower e2 via Arimidex 0.25mg weekly but just wanna have something on hand in case gyno does show up.

Most of what I ordered here are so I have them just in case I’ll need them. Hopefully I don’t except for the cialis lol.

bros that good looking stuff right there going with approved source. ugloz rave reviews from our aussie bros and sistas. you gonna love it let us know how you like it @pr0doggy

 

[Ulter]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
View attachment 135375

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135376

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135377

Day 31 - Morning after

View attachment 135378

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

I can definitely tell that you're extremely raw. @pr0doggy But I think that you have the potential to really do well. We expect some big things out of you.

 

[kcates]

Nice start to your program. I will be following along.

 

[2Thick]

First purchase from approved suppliers here. Telmisartin and cialis from @UGL OZ

Also just ordered ralox and nebivolol from @Wolfenstein

I know @LevButlerov suggestion was just to lower e2 via Arimidex 0.25mg weekly but just wanna have something on hand in case gyno does show up.

Most of what I ordered here are so I have them just in case I’ll need them. Hopefully I don’t except for the cialis lol.

@pr0doggy you shouldn't have gyno if you keep estrogen in check. But yeah, it's smart to always have things on hand. Hopefully you don't have to use anything in a pinch.

 

[pr0doggy]

@pr0doggy you shouldn't have gyno if you keep estrogen in check. But yeah, it's smart to always have things on hand. Hopefully you don't have to use anything in a pinch.

Yes sir, that’s the plan. Just scared about the currently high e2 but I’d rather be sure! Will update you guys as I go

 

[2Thick]

Yes sir, that’s the plan. Just scared about the currently high e2 but I’d rather be sure! Will update you guys as I go

always good to be safer then sorry

 

[pr0doggy]

I can definitely tell that you're extremely raw. @pr0doggy But I think that you have the potential to really do well. We expect some big things out of you.

Thanks mate, trying my best out here. Will update everyone on lifts and diet soon enough. Thanks for the support

 

[pr0doggy]

bros that good looking stuff right there going with approved source. ugloz rave reviews from our aussie bros and sistas. you gonna love it let us know how you like it @pr0doggy

Will definitely keep you guys posted. Thanks for the support brother

 

[ROIDDERS]

Yes sir, that’s the plan. Just scared about the currently high e2 but I’d rather be sure! Will update you guys as I go

Don't go into a cycle being scared as long as you do everything correctly and you have your things that you need, then there's nothing to worry about. @pr0doggy

 

[pr0doggy]

UPDATE 1 (31/10/2025):

* Will edit this as I go throughout the day

Took my first AI dose yesterday. 0.5mg Arimidex. Not sure if placebo but woke up feeling much better compared to yesterday.

I slept better than yesterday. Not much anxiety that kept me up at night compared to the day prior. Also woke up brick hard and with less anxiety.
Feeling pretty good actually.

BP and HR still elevated.

BP at 138/67
HR at 80 resting (used to be 55-60)

MEAL 1:

Ingredients

• 70 g Woolworths Quick Oats
• 15 g Woolworths Skim Milk Powder
• 15 g Nesquik Chocolate Milk Flavouring
• 130 g Golden Kiwi

Total Macros

Calories: 417 kcal
Protein: 14.8 g
Carbs: 74.2 g
Fat: 5.5 g
Fibre: 6.2 g

 

[pr0doggy]

Don't go into a cycle being scared as long as you do everything correctly and you have your things that you need, then there's nothing to worry about. @pr0doggy

Thanks brother, will keep this in mind!

 

[RoySimpson]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

---

Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

---

Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

---

AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

---

Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

---

Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

---

Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

---

Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

---

Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

---

Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

---

Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
View attachment 135375

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135376

Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
View attachment 135377

Day 31 - Morning after

View attachment 135378

Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

@pr0doggy welcome to the forums bro!

 

[LevButlerov]

UPDATE 1 (31/10/2025):

* Will edit this as I go throughout the day

Took my first AI dose yesterday. 0.5mg Arimidex. Not sure if placebo but woke up feeling much better compared to yesterday.

I slept better than yesterday. Not much anxiety that kept me up at night compared to the day prior. Also woke up brick hard and with less anxiety.
Feeling pretty good actually.

BP and HR still elevated.

BP at 138/67
HR at 80 resting (used to be 55-60)

MEAL 1:

Ingredients

• 70 g Woolworths Quick Oats
• 15 g Woolworths Skim Milk Powder
• 15 g Nesquik Chocolate Milk Flavouring
• 130 g Golden Kiwi

Total Macros

Calories: 417 kcal
Protein: 14.8 g
Carbs: 74.2 g
Fat: 5.5 g
Fibre: 6.2 g

Good start to the update, that first Arimidex dose likely dropped e2 just enough to ease the tension and sleep issues. @pr0doggy

BP and HR are still elevated but trending in the right direction, keep monitoring over the next 3-5 days since it can take that long to stabilize.

and your macros do you have full day macros?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Mostly just my face and midsection feeling very puffy in the morning. It’s subsided a lot recently though when I introduced electrolytes and less sodium in my meals

Damn that's weird... when I wake up is when I take my 'in the mirror look at me everyone' shots. It's the only time of day I can stand looking at my reflection LOL

 

[HarleyGuy]

Took my first AI dose yesterday. 0.5mg Arimidex. Not sure if placebo but woke up feeling much better compared to yesterday.

This is definitely not placebo... Adex is strong bro. I've only had to use it a couple times otherwise I use aromasin it's like a .50 cal vs. a nuke LOL. I used letro early on in my gear career and wondered why my bones felt like they were gonna crack under the bench press LOL

 

[pr0doggy]

Good start to the update, that first Arimidex dose likely dropped e2 just enough to ease the tension and sleep issues. @pr0doggy

BP and HR are still elevated but trending in the right direction, keep monitoring over the next 3-5 days since it can take that long to stabilize.

and your macros do you have full day macros?

Cool. I'll keep updating and hopefully you guys can guide me if I need to take anything to lower it down!

For my full day macros it's below:

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

I usually end up with perfect calories but more protein 200-230g, less carbs, and fats.

This is definitely not placebo... Adex is strong bro. I've only had to use it a couple times otherwise I use aromasin it's like a .50 cal vs. a nuke LOL. I used letro early on in my gear career and wondered why my bones felt like they were gonna crack under the bench press LOL

Ok cool, glad to hear it's not placebo and that hopefully my e2 is trending downwards. I'll keep the 0.25mg dosage 2x per week for 2-3 weeks then take bloods again!

LOL that .50 cal vs nuke analogy makes things clearer for me

 

[pr0doggy]

Apparently, I can't edit my message above regarding my nutrition updates. Will just save the update for later then.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Apparently, I can't edit my message above regarding my nutrition updates. Will just save the update for later then.

Ya you've only got about 20 mins or so and then time's up.

 

[LevButlerov]

Cool. I'll keep updating and hopefully you guys can guide me if I need to take anything to lower it down!

For my full day macros it's below:

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

I usually end up with perfect calories but more protein 200-230g, less carbs, and fats.

Good macros try to push protein to 240 .

Apparently, I can't edit my message above regarding my nutrition updates. Will just save the update for later then.

just click reply and update @pr0doggy

 

[HarleyGuy]

Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

Have you decided on what you're doing I haven't seen a concrete decision here posted yet because whatever it is these macros are all f--ked up (sorry I'm blunt but passionate sometimes). The only reference to it is you saying "hoping to keep making gains".

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

You said maybe extend the bulk but then maybe a recomp and never let us know which so I'm assuming the bulk is still going? Because those macros mean one thing vs. the other, big time. Protein should be 300+ in my opinion anyway with calories at 3600 on a bulk, minimum.

This is a great log because you're starting from scratch and taking guidance to get things dialed to get this to a 50+ page log where you nail your goals like a champ, and you will! Keep logging brother you've got a great base it looks like you could put on some serious muscle. Arms are already thick and big we're on our way!

 

[HarleyGuy]

Haha @LevButlerov I just shit on his macros and then read your reply, but we agree at least on upping the protein. I just don't know if he's in a bulk or recomping.

Good macros try to push protein to 240 .

 

[LevButlerov]

Haha @LevButlerov I just shit on his macros and then read your reply, but we agree at least on upping the protein. I just don't know if he's in a bulk or recomping.

lets see how he does with higher protein, if good we can go up, if not we can drop a bit and up the carbs @HarleyGuy

 

[HarleyGuy]

lets see how he does with higher protein, if good we can go up, if not we can drop a bit and up the carbs @HarleyGuy

Good compromise. Not gonna argue with anyone upping their protein @pr0doggy
So he's bulking then it seems, then those macros make more sense. But I'm on board with 240-250 P for sure.

 

[ceo]

Will definitely keep you guys posted. Thanks for the support brother

bros that good!

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thanks brother, will keep this in mind!

Yes. Be confident in yourself.

 

[Ulter]

Thanks mate, trying my best out here. Will update everyone on lifts and diet soon enough. Thanks for the support

EVO support 100%! keep clanging that iron. That's what I want to see.

 

[pr0doggy]

UPDATE 1 (31/10/2025):

* Will edit this as I go throughout the day

Took my first AI dose yesterday. 0.5mg Arimidex. Not sure if placebo but woke up feeling much better compared to yesterday.

I slept better than yesterday. Not much anxiety that kept me up at night compared to the day prior. Also woke up brick hard and with less anxiety.
Feeling pretty good actually.

BP and HR still elevated.

BP at 138/67
HR at 80 resting (used to be 55-60)

MEAL 1:

Ingredients

• 70 g Woolworths Quick Oats
• 15 g Woolworths Skim Milk Powder
• 15 g Nesquik Chocolate Milk Flavouring
• 130 g Golden Kiwi

Total Macros

Calories: 417 kcal
Protein: 14.8 g
Carbs: 74.2 g
Fat: 5.5 g
Fibre: 6.2 g

Update from yesterday. I didn’t get to update all meals but this is what I ended up with. I upped protein as per @LevButlerov

I didn’t get to workout though as I felt like shit. Been feeling flu/fever like symptoms since Wednesday. Week before that, been waking up with sore throat and still kept pushing it at gym. Wednesday, I ran outside while it was raining and o guess that’s what fucked me up. Feeling much better today though.

No more nip itching sometimes I feel sensitive on my nips but overall much better than when I first got high e2 readings.

Will take another 0.25mg adex tomorrow. My schedule is Sunday and Thursday. I pin test EOD 3x a week and do adex 2x Sundays and Thursdays.

One question though could this fever/chills/flu problem be related to E2? Or am I actually sick? It feels like my typical sickness when I catch a flu. And I read up that e2 shouldn’t give you chills and body aches and headaches at the top of your head. Mostly just back of the eyes and temples.

Additionally my blood pressure is still pretty normal though my heart rate stays elevated. 75-80 resting heart rate versus 50-65 before.

Still feeling a bit sick today but will push to go to the gym.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update from yesterday. I didn’t get to update all meals but this is what I ended up with. I upped protein as per @LevButlerov

I didn’t get to workout though as I felt like shit. Been feeling flu/fever like symptoms since Wednesday. Week before that, been waking up with sore throat and still kept pushing it at gym. Wednesday, I ran outside while it was raining and o guess that’s what fucked me up. Feeling much better today though.

No more nip itching sometimes I feel sensitive on my nips but overall much better than when I first got high e2 readings.

Will take another 0.25mg adex tomorrow. My schedule is Sunday and Thursday. I pin test EOD 3x a week and do adex 2x Sundays and Thursdays.

One question though could this fever/chills/flu problem be related to E2? Or am I actually sick? It feels like my typical sickness when I catch a flu. And I read up that e2 shouldn’t give you chills and body aches and headaches at the top of your head. Mostly just back of the eyes and temples.

Additionally my blood pressure is still pretty normal though my heart rate stays elevated. 75-80 resting heart rate versus 50-65 before.

Still feeling a bit sick today but will push to go to the gym.

Good update, that sounds like a real flu not e2 related since high e2 doesn’t give fever or chills like that. Elevated heart rate while sick is normal from immune stress and less sleep so keep resting and stay on your usual adex schedule. @pr0doggy i wouldn't shift hormones now.

do you have food macro shares?

 

[pr0doggy]

Good update, that sounds like a real flu not e2 related since high e2 doesn’t give fever or chills like that. Elevated heart rate while sick is normal from immune stress and less sleep so keep resting and stay on your usual adex schedule. @pr0doggy i wouldn't shift hormones now.

do you have food macro shares?

Glad to hear it's not E2 related. Should I push for a workout today or better to rest it out? Part of me is getting that "Damn you're on gear and not working out?!" guilt whenever I rest LOL @LevButlerov

Here are my food macros for yesterday by the way:

My shake typically consists of
- Pea protein
- Skim milk
- Chocolate powder
- Fruits

 

[LevButlerov]

Glad to hear it's not E2 related. Should I push for a workout today or better to rest it out? Part of me is getting that "Damn you're on gear and not working out?!" guilt whenever I rest LOL @LevButlerov

Here are my food macros for yesterday by the way:

View attachment 136337

My shake typically consists of
- Pea protein
- Skim milk
- Chocolate powder
- Fruits

If you still feel the fever or body aches then rest 1 more day, gear or not recovery beats forced sessions when immune stress is high. You're better taking 3 days off deload and recover.
and it could be e2 but we wont know until you rest a bit @pr0doggy

Macros look good, protein is good almost 250 there just get to 300 and you top dog!

 

[pr0doggy]

If you still feel the fever or body aches then rest 1 more day, gear or not recovery beats forced sessions when immune stress is high. You're better taking 3 days off deload and recover.
and it could be e2 but we wont know until you rest a bit @pr0doggy

Macros look good, protein is good almost 250 there just get to 300 and you top dog!

Cool brother I’ll take the day off but keep macros up. Maybe just go for a quick walk for the steps. Thanks mate

 

[LevButlerov]

Cool brother I’ll take the day off but keep macros up. Maybe just go for a quick walk for the steps. Thanks mate

Light walk nothing more than 15min

 

[ballin2504]

Hey EVO fam,​

I just started my first actual cycle. I messed around with Enclomiphene + Anavar (not the smartest combo, I know) for 2 months before, followed by Tesamorelin + Ipamorelin for recovery and body composition.

Peaked at over 230 lbs, then cut down to 170 lbs in one year. I ended up lean but flat and stringy — barely any muscle at all. Since then, I rebuilt with smarter nutrition and structure. Got hit with a rough sciatica + AC joint injury that set me back, and I landed at a weird skinny-fat physique.

Recently moved to Sydney and left behind my family and my ex-fiancé, who ended up having cold feet before our wedding and our move here. I was depressed and mentally out of it and thought to myself, “Hey, might as well get on with this and bounce back as a completely new person.”

This is my first proper Testosterone cycle, and I’m considering adding another compound later depending on response and labs.

As of today - 30/10/2025 - I just finished 4 weeks out of my 12-16 week cycle.

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Starting Stats & Relevant Info​

Age: 30
Starting Weight: 82 kg (180 lbs)
Estimated Body Fat: ~15-16% *not sure about this one all I had was those electric InBody scales at the gym
Training Frequency: 5–6x per week
Training Experience: Years on and off, but only truly consistent the past 2 years. Most of that consistency was just focused on losing weight though.

Current Plan:
A 12 to 16-week cycle if blood work permits. Originally planned to bulk for 8–10 weeks, then cut for the remaining phase — but now considering extending the bulk. Not 100% sure yet though. So it'll be more like a recomp I guess. Maybe you could give advice?

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Current Phase – Bulk​

Compounds:

• Testosterone Enanthate – 300 mg/week (Started 100 mg M/W/F but now moving to EOD)
  *Source isn’t from EVO — didn’t know this place existed before, but will definitely source here for future vials.
• MK677 – 12.5 mg/day (only until I finish up my old vial — not wasting it lol)

Peptide Support:

• KLOW Blend (GHK-Cu : BPC-157 : TB-500 : KPV 5:1:1:1) – 3.2 mg/day for ~3.5 weeks
• MOTS-C – currently considering adding this soon
• Retatrutide – taking 2mg/week to counter some of the negatives of Test on biomarkers

Support Supplements:

• Creatine
• Fish Oil
• Vitamin C
• NAC
• B Complex
• Magnesium Glycinate
• Zinc
• Vitamin D
• CoQ10

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AI / SERMs​

Have Arimidex on hand but not taking any.
Bloods this week to monitor E2 and Prolactin before making adjustments.

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Bloodwork (So far)​

View attachment 135354

PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW: E2 significantly higher than I want. Below are some of the things I feel:

- Bloat (Really bad)
- Some anxiety
- Higher BP/HR but not extreme
- Time-to-time I'd have itchy nips but it comes in passing. Just one scratch and I'm done lol. No spicy or painful nips.

OTHER OBSERVATIONS:

Libido: high — horny almost every day
Mood: calmer than during my dark, “suicidal thought” days after everything that happened
Energy: strong throughout the day except for my usual afternoon dip
Acne:
I’ve always had folliculitis — small pimple-like bumps all over my back, chest, and arms that no meds have fixed (antibiotics, creams, gels, you name it). Aside from that, nothing major. Got a few face spots in week 2 that cleared up with Benzac.
Hairline: perfect
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Injection Comfort: started subQ TRT-style (was scared of needles lol), now doing IM — much better

TWEAKS AS OF 30/10/2025:
- 0.5mg Arimidex 2x weekly for 2 weeks and retest e2
- Increase frequency of test to daily OR lessen it entirely (Maybe someone can help me assess which is better?)

Additional bloodworks (No-pre, sorry. I didn't know the right bloods to take initially)

View attachment 135379
View attachment 135380

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Nutrition (Daily Averages)​

Calories: 3,200 kcal (vs ~2,900 TDEE)
Protein: ~200g
Carbs: ~400g
Fats: ~89g

All meals are cooked and tracked regularly.

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Training​

Split:

1. Chest + Back
2. Arms + Shoulders
3. Legs
4. Push
5. Pull
6. Legs
7. Rest

Frequency: 5–6x/week (rest if sciatica pain flares up)
Goal: Hit every muscle group twice weekly

As for compounds — I’m very limited due to the sciatica and the AC joint issue, but still pushing heavy within safe range. So my workouts are heavy on plate-loaded machines (Chest press, shoulder press, pendulum squats

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Cardio & Recovery​

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs
Goal: maintain cardiovascular fitness and manage blood pressure
Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
Stress Level: Moderate (6/10)

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Goals​

Next 6 Months:
Recomp with gradual mass gain

3–4 Years:
Aesthetic hypertrophy, proportionate build

Long Term (35 onwards maybe?)
Blast and cruise TRT approach under medical supervision — balance performance with health and longevity

Priority Order:
Foundation mass → aesthetics → performance → longevity

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Feedback Requested​

• Is it a good call that I started AI today? (30/10/2025)
• Is my AI dosage correct? (0.5 2x weekly)
• Should I lower test dosage or increase frequency of pinning?
• Should I keep my focus on gaining muscle and bulking or should I stop test right now and cut down to a better BF% before restarting my cycle again?

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Progress Photos​

• I believe I started relatively high bodyfat % and could have started with a lot more mass. I was just in a bad place mentally then and thought this would be good route to take. I estimate it to be 15-16% with the help of an InBody scale (I know it's not that accurate)
• I have gained some weight and am holding more fat now
• I’m aware of the risks and fully accountable for my choices.

Day 0 to Day 31 - Morning no pump
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Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
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Week 1 & Week 4 - Mid-workout
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Day 31 - Morning after

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Appreciate any input — and cheers to everyone who’s contributed knowledge to this community.

@pr0doggy nice start to the log and we are glad to have you here on evo. Looks like you have a great base to build on. Let’s get it.

 

[pr0doggy]

UPDATE 2/11/2025 (Week 5, Pin #2)

Sharing macros for yesterday:

Didn't workout coz I was still feeling sick but kept macros & steps in check.

Woke up feeling much better. I think I'm good for a quick but lighter workout today. Won't push it as hard just yet.

Slept really well woke up in a good mood, not much anxiety. I normally wake up with anxiety (diagnosed) but when high E2 started, it was much worse. Now I feel better.

Will take another dose of test this morning plus 0.25mg adex. This will be my 2nd dose of Adex. Will continue taking for 3 weeks and then retest my E2.

Woke up with BP at 128/67 and resting heart rate a bit lower but still elevated at 73 vs 55 baseline.

 

[pr0doggy]

@pr0doggy nice start to the log and we are glad to have you here on evo. Looks like you have a great base to build on. Let’s get it.

Thanks brother. Will keep updating!

Good compromise. Not gonna argue with anyone upping their protein @pr0doggy
So he's bulking then it seems, then those macros make more sense. But I'm on board with 240-250 P for sure.

Yes brother, I'll keep the bulk up until 10 weeks maybe then see where to go from there. If I packed on a lot of fat, I will cut for the last 6 weeks. I plan to add anavar here.

Ultimate goal for this first cycle is see how test affects me (and I'm learning a lot right now! I am apparently a high aromatiser lol) and also look better at the end of it. After this cycle, PCT (or cruise? idk yet) before starting another proper bulk cycle with additional compounds if needed.

Reason why I say cruise maybe is because I am running the Sydney Marathon and I kinda feel like being on gear during the marathon might be beneficial lol but idk yet I haven't researched enough for that. That's a problem for next time. Gotta focus on this cycle first.

 

[LevButlerov]

UPDATE 2/11/2025 (Week 5, Pin #2)

Sharing macros for yesterday:

View attachment 136587

Didn't workout coz I was still feeling sick but kept macros & steps in check.

Woke up feeling much better. I think I'm good for a quick but lighter workout today. Won't push it as hard just yet.

Slept really well woke up in a good mood, not much anxiety. I normally wake up with anxiety (diagnosed) but when high E2 started, it was much worse. Now I feel better.

Will take another dose of test this morning plus 0.25mg adex. This will be my 2nd dose of Adex. Will continue taking for 3 weeks and then retest my E2.

Woke up with BP at 128/67 and resting heart rate a bit lower but still elevated at 73 vs 55 baseline.

Good to hear you’re feeling better and e2 symptoms easing, that 0.25mg adex plan for 3 weeks is fine.

BP and heart rate still a bit high but will settle as e2 normalizes.

 

[HarleyGuy]

I kinda feel like being on gear during the marathon might be beneficial

Believe it or not running only Test for a marathon might not be your best gear choice. There are peptides can go increase your VO2 max and EQ will get your RBC up. This is more for someone like @stevesmi to take on.

 

[Allupfromhere]

Believe it or not running only Test for a marathon might not be your best gear choice. There are peptides can go increase your VO2 max and EQ will get your RBC up. This is more for someone like @stevesmi to take on.

Interesting to here some replies to this as i had a friend ask me the same question yesterday.

 

[pr0doggy]

Believe it or not running only Test for a marathon might not be your best gear choice. There are peptides can go increase your VO2 max and EQ will get your RBC up. This is more for someone like @stevesmi to take on.

Interesting to here some replies to this as i had a friend ask me the same question yesterday.

I was actually looking into Test + EQ because of its endurance benefits. Watched a few videos and read up a bit about it but haven’t really gone into much detail.

All I know is that EQ takes a while to kick in and to get out of your system and that’s why i was considering doing a cruise instead of a full pct just yet.

If I end this cycle at 16 weeks, my pct will be mid-Feb. Timings might be tight if I plan to fully recover and be ready for the marathon in Aug/Sept... or is it just right? But would love to hear more from you guys.

Anyway, morning update with some workout logs to be shared today!

 

[LevButlerov]

I was actually looking into Test + EQ because of its endurance benefits. Watched a few videos and read up a bit about it but haven’t really gone into much detail.

All I know is that EQ takes a while to kick in and to get out of your system and that’s why i was considering doing a cruise instead of a full pct just yet.

If I end this cycle at 16 weeks, my pct will be mid-Feb. Timings might be tight if I plan to fully recover and be ready for the marathon in Aug/Sept... or is it just right? But would love to hear more from you guys.

Anyway, morning update with some workout logs to be shared today!

EQ is good for endurance since it boosts RBC count, but you’ll want to stop it 12-14 weeks before the marathon so hematocrit normalizes. I would stack it with cardarine gw for your goals @pr0doggy

 

[HarleyGuy]

EQ is good for endurance since it boosts RBC count, but you’ll want to stop it 12-14 weeks before the marathon so hematocrit normalizes. I would stack it with cardarine gw for your goals @pr0doggy

@pr0doggy Perfect advice right here and love the cardarine and gw suggestion. And the timing of your marathon in Aug would give you time to run it (after PCT) for 12 weeks ending in May and then going off 12 weeks for the marathon in Aug.

 

[Allupfromhere]

EQ is good for endurance since it boosts RBC count, but you’ll want to stop it 12-14 weeks before the marathon so hematocrit normalizes. I would stack it with cardarine gw for your goals @pr0doggy

@pr0doggy Perfect advice right here and love the cardarine and gw suggestion. And the timing of your marathon in Aug would give you time to run it (after PCT) for 12 weeks ending in May and then going off 12 weeks for the marathon in Aug.

Was about to mention gw but you guys beat me too it lol, sprinkle in some mots c and that would give you a serious fuel tank for a marathon

 

[pr0doggy]

UPDATES:

Nutrition on track now averaging 3.2k calories on 220-230g protein. Experimenting on upping calories further to hit 250g protein.

As for lifts, below are some of the improvements. Few notes:

1. No bar exercises until my PT allows me (I have sciatica and AC joint injuries)
2. I am limited to plate loaded machines that allow me to hit one side at a time.
3. Once I get the go signal (estimated in 2-3 weeks) from my PT, I will test my squat, bench, deadlift.
4. Leg exercises will be updated tomorrow once I do my workout again. For legs, I am also limited to machines. (Pendulum Squat, Leg Press, etc)

Please see below improvements. All plate-loaded machines and all measurements are in Kilograms.

Additional updates:

Felt much better today overall. Mood was very good. I feel like Arimidex is starting to work well. BP and HR were still up and down though. And still some anxiety throughout the day but not as bad as the first few days.

Also adding some progress photos from today's workout. Did arms and shoulders today.

Left photo: October 28, Right photo: Today, November 11

1 question though:

I just got my Ralox from @Wolfenstein. Is it smart to take it preventively while my E2 is high? In my head this is to avoid potential build up of gyno. Protocol would be 0.25mg Arimidex 2x per week + Ralox until I test for E2 again.

Or is that a dumb idea? It was just a random thought I had while showering and I haven't done any research about it lol.

 

[pr0doggy]

Was about to mention gw but you guys beat me too it lol, sprinkle in some mots c and that would give you a serious fuel tank for a marathon

EQ is good for endurance since it boosts RBC count, but you’ll want to stop it 12-14 weeks before the marathon so hematocrit normalizes. I would stack it with cardarine gw for your goals @pr0doggy

@pr0doggy Perfect advice right here and love the cardarine and gw suggestion. And the timing of your marathon in Aug would give you time to run it (after PCT) for 12 weeks ending in May and then going off 12 weeks for the marathon in Aug.

Spot on. I was planning to do Test, EQ, Cardarine, MOTS-C, SLUPP332. But I'll be asking for your help again towards the end of this cycle. I wanna focus on this one first. Thanks for the guidance though!

 

[HarleyGuy]

But I'll be asking for your help again towards the end of this cycle

Good and we will be here for you too!

 

[LevButlerov]

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UPDATES:

Nutrition on track now averaging 3.2k calories on 220-230g protein. Experimenting on upping calories further to hit 250g protein.

As for lifts, below are some of the improvements. Few notes:

1. No bar exercises until my PT allows me (I have sciatica and AC joint injuries)
2. I am limited to plate loaded machines that allow me to hit one side at a time.
3. Once I get the go signal (estimated in 2-3 weeks) from my PT, I will test my squat, bench, deadlift.
4. Leg exercises will be updated tomorrow once I do my workout again. For legs, I am also limited to machines. (Pendulum Squat, Leg Press, etc)

Please see below improvements. All plate-loaded machines and all measurements are in Kilograms.

View attachment 137194

Additional updates:

Felt much better today overall. Mood was very good. I feel like Arimidex is starting to work well. BP and HR were still up and down though. And still some anxiety throughout the day but not as bad as the first few days.

Also adding some progress photos from today's workout. Did arms and shoulders today.

View attachment 137196

Left photo: October 28, Right photo: Today, November 11

1 question though:

I just got my Ralox from @Wolfenstein. Is it smart to take it preventively while my E2 is high? In my head this is to avoid potential build up of gyno. Protocol would be 0.25mg Arimidex 2x per week + Ralox until I test for E2 again.

Or is that a dumb idea? It was just a random thought I had while showering and I haven't done any research about it lol.

Good side chest in that pic, arms and delts have come up and your shape is tightening fast. The progress from late October to now is clear improvement even with the machine only pumps

On the Ralox, don’t add it yet unless you actually feel gland or puffiness under the nipple. Keep the Arimidex 0.25mg 2x /week for now and retest e2 first imo @pr0doggy

 

[Allupfromhere]

Spot on. I was planning to do Test, EQ, Cardarine, MOTS-C, SLUPP332. But I'll be asking for your help again towards the end of this cycle. I wanna focus on this one first. Thanks for the guidance though!

Sound like a plan brother we are all here for you the whole way

 

[pr0doggy]

UPDATES:

Did legs yesterday and it felt good but my sciatica was flaring up so wasn't able to push as hard as I wanted to... Still 2 weeks to go til next PT re-evaluation.

Macros still in check. Planning to up to 3.5k calories for the next few weeks before starting the cut part of the recomp. This means upping protein to around 250g.

Will also try to get labs as soon as next week. I feel so much better in terms of E2 sides. Almost feeling nothing anymore which is such a relief!

A few questions:
1. Given that sides of high e2 have subsided, should I still keep taking Adex? Just finished first dose of week 2 today.
2. Should I add any other compound? I was planning to add Anavar for the cut portion of this cycle. Maybe 40-50mg. I used to do 25mg. Additionally, I saw @Infinity Labs had Mast E available. Considering adding it so I wouldn't need AI. Or even Mast P. I've seen one featured supplier here with Mast P recently
3. If not Mast, what else can I add to grow even more quality muscle?

Also, not the best pics but here are some legs updates lol. Wish they could have grown faster and bigger but sciatica is a bitch. There are days when I can't even walk.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

@Eddie Haskell loggers here or need to find my own guys to sign up on EVO to log?

@Infinity Labs Hi This is not the correct way to ask about this, please send DM.

 

[LevButlerov]

UPDATES:

Did legs yesterday and it felt good but my sciatica was flaring up so wasn't able to push as hard as I wanted to... Still 2 weeks to go til next PT re-evaluation.

Macros still in check. Planning to up to 3.5k calories for the next few weeks before starting the cut part of the recomp. This means upping protein to around 250g.

Will also try to get labs as soon as next week. I feel so much better in terms of E2 sides. Almost feeling nothing anymore which is such a relief!

A few questions:
1. Given that sides of high e2 have subsided, should I still keep taking Adex? Just finished first dose of week 2 today.
2. Should I add any other compound? I was planning to add Anavar for the cut portion of this cycle. Maybe 40-50mg. I used to do 25mg. Additionally, I saw @Infinity Labs had Mast E available. Considering adding it so I wouldn't need AI. Or even Mast P. I've seen one featured supplier here with Mast P recently
3. If not Mast, what else can I add to grow even more quality muscle?

Also, not the best pics but here are some legs updates lol. Wish they could have grown faster and bigger but sciatica is a bitch. There are days when I can't even walk.

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UPDATES:

Did legs yesterday and it felt good but my sciatica was flaring up so wasn't able to push as hard as I wanted to... Still 2 weeks to go til next PT re-evaluation.

Macros still in check. Planning to up to 3.5k calories for the next few weeks before starting the cut part of the recomp. This means upping protein to around 250g.

Will also try to get labs as soon as next week. I feel so much better in terms of E2 sides. Almost feeling nothing anymore which is such a relief!

A few questions:
1. Given that sides of high e2 have subsided, should I still keep taking Adex? Just finished first dose of week 2 today.
2. Should I add any other compound? I was planning to add Anavar for the cut portion of this cycle. Maybe 40-50mg. I used to do 25mg. Additionally, I saw @Infinity Labs had Mast E available. Considering adding it so I wouldn't need AI. Or even Mast P. I've seen one featured supplier here with Mast P recently
3. If not Mast, what else can I add to grow even more quality muscle?

Also, not the best pics but here are some legs updates lol. Wish they could have grown faster and bigger but sciatica is a bitch. There are days when I can't even walk.

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Your legs look big and thick in that pic good shape even with the sciatica flaring up. @pr0doggy

1. Given that sides of high e2 have subsided, should I still keep taking Adex? Just finished first dose of week 2 today.

If e2 sides are gone, drop Adex for now and just monitor feel until bloods.
when can you do bloods?

2. Should I add any other compound? I was planning to add Anavar for the cut portion of this cycle. Maybe 40-50mg. I used to do 25mg. Additionally, I saw @Infinity Labs had Mast E available. Considering adding it so I wouldn't need AI. Or even Mast P. I've seen one featured supplier here with Mast P recently

Adding masteron is fine low dose it, but anavar+ is good too

3. If not Mast, what else can I add to grow even more quality muscle?

eq is possible
check our eq megathread
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ios-a-study-of-equipoise-and-estrogen.105375/

Also, not the best pics but here are some legs updates lol. Wish they could have grown faster and bigger but sciatica is a bitch. There are days when I can't even walk.

I thought these are good pics IMO

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki


@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Madmax46

 

[Allupfromhere]

UPDATES:

Did legs yesterday and it felt good but my sciatica was flaring up so wasn't able to push as hard as I wanted to... Still 2 weeks to go til next PT re-evaluation.

Macros still in check. Planning to up to 3.5k calories for the next few weeks before starting the cut part of the recomp. This means upping protein to around 250g.

Will also try to get labs as soon as next week. I feel so much better in terms of E2 sides. Almost feeling nothing anymore which is such a relief!

A few questions:
1. Given that sides of high e2 have subsided, should I still keep taking Adex? Just finished first dose of week 2 today.
2. Should I add any other compound? I was planning to add Anavar for the cut portion of this cycle. Maybe 40-50mg. I used to do 25mg. Additionally, I saw @Infinity Labs had Mast E available. Considering adding it so I wouldn't need AI. Or even Mast P. I've seen one featured supplier here with Mast P recently
3. If not Mast, what else can I add to grow even more quality muscle?

Also, not the best pics but here are some legs updates lol. Wish they could have grown faster and bigger but sciatica is a bitch. There are days when I can't even walk.

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Sciatica or not bro you have done well with the growth you have made! Legs look

 

[pr0doggy]

Sciatica or not bro you have done well with the growth you have made! Legs look

Your legs look big and thick in that pic good shape even with the sciatica flaring up. @pr0doggy


If e2 sides are gone, drop Adex for now and just monitor feel until bloods.
when can you do bloods?

Adding masteron is fine low dose it, but anavar+ is good too

eq is possible
check our eq megathread
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ios-a-study-of-equipoise-and-estrogen.105375/

I thought these are good pics IMO

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki


@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy @Madmax46

haha thanks for the support guys!

I’ll prolly take a blood test on Saturday but only for e2 and test since it’s a bit out of budget right now to do everything all over again.

Which between EQ and mast is better at this stage? I’m considering running it until I transition into a cut. I would assume mast?

 

[pr0doggy]

Got a few items coming in from imports + vendors here so I thought I’d share some of what’s in my stack right now. This is coming out to be an expensive lifestyle but I'm loving it

 

[LevButlerov]

Got a few items coming in from imports + vendors here so I thought I’d share some of what’s in my stack right now. This is coming out to be an expensive lifestyle but I'm loving it

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I see some nice Shogun in the pics, can we get more UGL OZ @UGL OZ pics? @pr0doggy

@Be @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki


@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

 

[LevButlerov]

haha thanks for the support guys!

I’ll prolly take a blood test on Saturday but only for e2 and test since it’s a bit out of budget right now to do everything all over again.

Which between EQ and mast is better at this stage? I’m considering running it until I transition into a cut. I would assume mast?

I would go with equipoise right now lower dose.

 

[pr0doggy]

I see some nice Shogun in the pics, can we get more UGL OZ @UGL OZ pics? @pr0doggy

@Be @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki


@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

Imma take better shots later. Just headed to the clinic to retest e2 right now lol. Hopefully all is well.

Cialis & telmisartan from UGLOZ and nebivolol & ralox from Austrix!

 

[Freki]

This is coming out to be an expensive lifestyle but I'm loving it

So true , still its miles cheaper then drinking every day

 

[Dreamer]

Got a few items coming in from imports + vendors here so I thought I’d share some of what’s in my stack right now. This is coming out to be an expensive lifestyle but I'm loving it

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Nice stack, I love supps man, I am always looking at new things to add, I love tracking my bloods and seeing how close I can get to the optimal range with different things

 

[LevButlerov]

Imma take better shots later. Just headed to the clinic to retest e2 right now lol. Hopefully all is well.

Cialis & telmisartan from UGLOZ and nebivolol & ralox from Austrix!

keep us updated

 

[pr0doggy]

keep us updated

Results will be tomorrow but I think now is not the best time to test my e2 because it’s a lil over 24 hours since last test pin. Won’t thay give a higher reading? But anyway, I’d rather have a reading now because I’ll be out of town for 2 weeks with no access to labs. Gym and gear still ok though.

 

[Pigsy]

I see some nice Shogun in the pics, can we get more UGL OZ @UGL OZ pics? @pr0doggy

@Be @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki


@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy

Shogun is the way to go

 

[waggat]

Hey mate, good log so far. I'll go back and read through properly this weekend.

You're looking good even in your first photos. Will be awesome to see your progress!

 

[pr0doggy]

So true , still its miles cheaper then drinking every day

Definitely. Then sometimes I see old pics and I am reminded of my journey hahaha. These are pics from when I moved to Australia 2 months ago. First month no gear. Second month with test.

 

[LevButlerov]

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Big Shogun Win for Team UGL OZ @UGL OZ

 

[LevButlerov]

Definitely. Then sometimes I see old pics and I am reminded of my journey hahaha. These are pics from when I moved to Australia 2 months ago. First month no gear. Second month with test.

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night and day you've made huge progress in those pics, biger and thicker and leaner @pr0doggy

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki
@rizzlekdizzle @Yuri

 

[LevButlerov]

Results will be tomorrow but I think now is not the best time to test my e2 because it’s a lil over 24 hours since last test pin. Won’t thay give a higher reading? But anyway, I’d rather have a reading now because I’ll be out of town for 2 weeks with no access to labs. Gym and gear still ok though.

will wait for results lets see first

 

[Yuri]

night and day you've made huge progress in those pics, biger and thicker and leaner @pr0doggy

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @toddthelineman @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @s.gentz @Dreamer @Freki
@rizzlekdizzle @Yuri

For sure!

 

[Freki]

Definitely. Then sometimes I see old pics and I am reminded of my journey hahaha. These are pics from when I moved to Australia 2 months ago. First month no gear. Second month with test.

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So impressive and in a month crazy good results

 

[Allupfromhere]

Got a few items coming in from imports + vendors here so I thought I’d share some of what’s in my stack right now. This is coming out to be an expensive lifestyle but I'm loving it

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Definitely. Then sometimes I see old pics and I am reminded of my journey hahaha. These are pics from when I moved to Australia 2 months ago. First month no gear. Second month with test.

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Fuck brother you growing like a weed and the amount your chest and are have filled out is crazy, well done! Keep the foot on the pedel bro and who knows where you go

 

[pr0doggy]

will wait for results lets see first

Ok so…. It’s still pretty high but definitely significantly better than last time

From 320+ to 125 after 3 doses of adex. I’ll keep taking it for another week or 2 then retest.

 

[pr0doggy]

Ok so…. It’s still pretty high but definitely significantly better than last time

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From 320+ to 125 after 3 doses of adex. I’ll keep taking it for another week or 2 then retest.

Oh just kidding I was half asleep when I typed this lol. Isn’t this within normal range already?

 

[Freki]

Oh just kidding I was half asleep when I typed this lol. Isn’t this within normal range already?

That's a great range to be in

 

[pr0doggy]

That's a great range to be in

Dope I took my last dose to finish my 2 weeks on it this morning. I’ll stop taking from now on and then just retest in 2-3 weeks or depending on symptoms! Thanks guys

 

[Freki]

Dope I took my last dose to finish my 2 weeks on it this morning. I’ll stop taking from now on and then just retest in 2-3 weeks or depending on symptoms! Thanks guys

Nah if your still on cycle you have to continue taking it

 

[pr0doggy]

Nah if your still on cycle you have to continue taking it

Oh interesting. was just following @LevButlerov’s guidance initially to stop once symptoms are gone... If I keep taking it, should I lessen dosage? Wouldn’t wanna tank e2 also

 

[Freki]

If e2 sides are gone, drop Adex for now and just monitor feel until bloods.

Thoughts Lev he's in range ? And looks like low dose adex

Oh interesting. was just following @LevButlerov’s guidance initially to stop once symptoms are gone... If I keep taking it, should I lessen dosage? Wouldn’t wanna tank e2 also

What dose are you taking?

Seeing your in range after 2 weeks , I would keep it the same till the end of cycle. Also You get a rebound effect from Adex so e2 should come back even stronger, if you stop

 

[pr0doggy]

Thoughts Lev he's in range ? And looks like low dose adex

What dose are you taking?

Seeing your in range after 2 weeks , I would keep it the same till the end of cycle. Also You get a rebound effect from Adex so e2 should come back even stronger, if you stop

Currently on 0.25 2x weekly, brother. I do not mind keeping at it or maybe moving to aromasin to avoid rebound? Idk. Was also looking to adding mast or eq. Depends on what I get my hands on first.

 

[Freki]

Currently on 0.25 2x weekly, brother. I do not mind keeping at it or maybe moving to aromasin to avoid rebound? Idk. Was also looking to adding mast or eq. Depends on what I get my hands on first.

Thats a real low dose, you found a nice lvl at a low dose adex perfect.
Id keep it just as is for the rest of cycle.

Save the EQ for next time, its a prick to get the right dose for e2.

Can add Mast but just be careful with new vendors bro, Small orders only.

 

[pr0doggy]

Thats a real low dose, you found a nice lvl at a low dose adex perfect.
Id keep it just as is for the rest of cycle.

Save the EQ for next time, its a prick to get the right dose for e2.

Can add Mast but just be careful with new vendors bro, Small orders only.

Was actually considering adding something like:

EQ 100-150mg test 300mg and see how it goes from there. Then maybe 20mg/day of tbol for 6 weeks while waiting for eq to kick in. Reason for this is more endurance. As I stated earlier in this thread, I’m starting to train for a marathon.

As for mast, I’m supposed to log mast for infinity labs but while we’re not there yet, I’ll maybe just to eq first.

Can I swap eq out for mast in case the logging for mast pushes through?

 

[Freki]

EQ 100-150mg test 300mg and see how it goes from there. Then maybe 20mg/day of tbol for 6 weeks while waiting for eq to kick in.

Balancing your e2 is going to suck and you cant get a normal e2 blood test to check, I just don't see the point in adding it to this cycle, your on 300mgs of test now right?

As I stated earlier in this thread, I’m starting to train for a marathon.

My man Ive run a few. Then transitioned to ultras , its an amazing sport.

 

[Freki]

Cardio: 3–4x per week, 2.5-5 km Zone 2 runs

Try minutes instead of kms, at a minimum 30mins x 4 times a week then once accustomed add in a 1hr long run on weekends.

From there You have to build up slow or you will break.

Eventually should be doing 1hr x 4 - 5 days and 2hrs on weekends. With 2 speed or form sessions a week.

Whats your 5k pb? 10k pb?

 

[pr0doggy]

10k pb is 6:19 pace
5k pb is 5:46 pace

Try minutes instead of kms, at a minimum 30mins x 4 times a week then once accustomed add in a 1hr long run on weekends.

From there You have to build up slow or you will break.

Eventually should be doing 1hr x 4 - 5 days and 2hrs on weekends. With 2 speed or form sessions a week.

Whats your 5k pb? 10k pb?

longest run is 21km at around 7:20ish only done 21.1k twice ever

 

[pr0doggy]

Balancing your e2 is going to suck and you cant get a normal e2 blood test to check, I just don't see the point in adding it to this cycle, your on 300mgs of test now right?

My man Ive run a few. Then transitioned to ultras , its an amazing sport.

And yes sir. I’m on 300mgs test. Lev suggested to micro some eq for remainder of cycle is ok so was considering it. Have some coming soon but also not eager to hop on it I can always just keep it for future cycles.

Thanks brother I got in the Sydney marathon for next year so I’m gonna train hard lol

 

[Freki]

And yes sir. I’m on 300mgs test. Lev suggested to micro some eq for remainder of cycle is ok so was considering it. Have some coming soon but also not eager to hop on it I can always just keep it for future cycles.

Thanks brother I got in the Sydney marathon for next year so I’m gonna train hard lol

So jealous, I loved every bit of it, keep us updated with your progress