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A lot of the recipe stuff I look at is Asian type stuff. This was surprisingly simple as well. Just let the beef sit with the baking soda while I cut the veg, then pretty much chuck it all in. Sauce was simple as well.
Yep my wife makes the exact same dish the same way. Intjim she uses corn starch instead of the baking soda though. Quick and delicious.
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Bang on my bro
As soon as u hit 20 on your top lets bump that weight up
Sounds good mate. I see what you mean about it. Definitely seems like a good strategy. Nice change of pace too. I haven't hit calves seriously for a while.
When I first started training I really went to town on them (inspired by Arnold and all his talk about it) as my legs were so skinny. I remember lying on the ground in pain clutching my calves the pumps were so full on.
Yeah bro its a burner hey,I also like the strategy,im feeling the progress quick also
Nothing like some cal
Yeah bro 100% i think Arnold was onto it when it came to calves
When I used to run everyday I did a lot of beach running up in the softer sand which stretches the calf muscle
Hence why when I started training them with weight they really grew well
I heard Arnold talk about this also,makes a lot of sense in my opinion
Stick to the approach bro you will notice next time around youl get that muscle connection,the first I tried it my calves were BURNING
Next session was
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@waggat Man you are a wizard in the kitchen for sure. That's some good looking meals. I was not even aware about using baking soda to tenderize the beef. Tell us more about that.
Bros. You gotta try my wife's stir fry. She makes the best. She's straight from Japan. I love the sesame seeds you put on top. Not a lot of guys know that's very good for you. @waggat
Hey mate, it's called velveting. I think it's an Asian method. You just cut the beef and mix in the baking soda and let it sit for 20 minutes. Then rinse it off. It apparently breaks down the fibres of the meet to make it tender.
crazy enough i have never heard of that. so that is great info!
@waggat food is looking on point!
this is true for sure. @waggat Is impressing us for sure. He needs to start his own Asian restaurant.
Very nice man. Did you go to school for all this stuff? How do you gain all this knowledge for cooking? I gotta start cooking myself. I'm not really good at it. @waggat
@waggat brother!!! I am going to make that!!! So freaking clean!!!
Is it made out of stone? @Mobster
Thanks mate. Dinner is the one meal I try to keep interesting.
I just started trying a bunch of recipes to find stuff the family likes. I suppose you start to see trends. I don't think I'm a good cook though, maybe just good at following recipes. It keeps it interesting as well to see if you can get it to turn out the same.
From his castle wall?
Gotta eat well!! That dish looks so good
Yeah I'll be keeping it in the rotation. I like stir fry but I've always been concerned about the beef being tender. With velveting you can use any cut really (the recipe said you adjust for bad cuts by leaving it longer).
that is great!
Naw you're definitely a good cook bro. Following a recipe isn't as easy as it sounds. If I tried what you're doing it would turn out a mess lol.
Plus cooking from recipes is just how you build a knowl base. I bet you could freestyle a meal easily at this point.
Ok so in the last two days I've had some nipple tenderness. It prompted me to take 12.5mg Aromasin yesterday morning. Was still feeling it in the evening so took another.
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
. @LevButlerov can we get a badge for that?
This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
. @LevButlerov can we get a badge for that?This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
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Some of those symptoms could be psychological, it happens often when you expect e2 sides. I’d avoid pushing aromasin so hard so no E2 crash. @waggatOk so in the last two days I've had some nipple tenderness. It prompted me to take 12.5mg Aromasin yesterday morning. Was still feeling it in the evening so took another.
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
View attachment 138327
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
If you need something by feel, tamoxifen is safer short term for nipple relief.
I'm concerned going by feel will really tank your e2.
and aromatization king is taken I think
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To echo what Lev has said, in my first cycle, I had all the symptoms of high e2 but ended up being low e2 but fluctuated very quickly on bloods, I ended up crashing it with adex and getting worse and worse, sometimes it pays to ride it out a little and see where you landSome of those symptoms could be psychological, it happens often when you expect e2 sides. I’d avoid pushing aromasin so hard so no E2 crash. @waggat
If you need something by feel, tamoxifen is safer short term for nipple relief.
I'm concerned going by feel will really tank your e2.
and aromatization king is taken I think
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Some of those symptoms could be psychological, it happens often when you expect e2 sides. I’d avoid pushing aromasin so hard so no E2 crash. @waggat
If you need something by feel, tamoxifen is safer short term for nipple relief.
I'm concerned going by feel will really tank your e2.
and aromatization king is taken I think
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Ok thanks that makes sense. I suppose I'm pretty much jumping to conclusions. I just thought with the sudden 2kg weight gain and not going to the toilet yesterday (despite drinking a lot) that was a solid sign of high E2.
With blood test on Wednesday, maybe I'll do one more 12.5mg dose on Sunday only?
2kg of weight gain can be a pretty natural flucuation aswell based on salt, food etc, its crazy how much the symptoms of low and high can crossover a lcms e2 test is truly the only real way to know, I can pick it now off feel somewhat reliably after doing labs and confirming
Few contenders for that titleOk so in the last two days I've had some nipple tenderness. It prompted me to take 12.5mg Aromasin yesterday morning. Was still feeling it in the evening so took another.
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
View attachment 138327
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
Judt a reminder EQ takes about 10 weeks to saturate.
And you will need a lcms e2 test to detect the difference between e1 and e2
Hey mate, I thought I saw someone say that the E2 effects come in much quicker though?Few contenders for that title
Judt a reminder EQ takes about 10 weeks to saturate.
And you will need a lcms e2 test to detect the difference between e1 and e2
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Don't take any aromasin sunday lets do bloods and see without it @waggat
That's a great question, def over my limited knowledge.
It still takes x amount of time for the ester to be cleaved off, before that the boldenone isn't being used. Pretty sure thats the case someone correct if not so.
So my hypothesis would be that there is a point of limited return. Once e2 is crashed its not going to crash at the same rate any further.
So the person who gets the low e2 effects straight away probably needs a much smaller dose???
Ok no problem!
Hey legend are you gauging the high e2 off bloods or by feel?Ok so in the last two days I've had some nipple tenderness. It prompted me to take 12.5mg Aromasin yesterday morning. Was still feeling it in the evening so took another.
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
View attachment 138327
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
Yeah i agree here just be carefull brother you dont want to overshoot on something that may not have actually shot first. So go easy with the ai until bloods tell you.
It did for me brother! Now i cant give you evidence from a scientific stand point i can only share my own experience.
I was on a gram of test, 300 mast, wont add the other compound as it doesnt influence this, and 25mg of aromasin ED and could only get my e2 down to 167pmol. Which isnt to bad when test is that high, but was on 25mg daily asin which isnt great.
Dropped everything and test back to 500mg weekly for 4 weeks as 1g was shithouse i didnt feel good i was bloating and was a pretty dumb cycle to be honest.
After 4 weeks at 500mg i added in 400mg eq, no ai whatsoever for 4 weeks so my e2 would have bumped as the test dose was smoothing out without an ai.
A little over two weeks after adding in the eq my estrogen was nuked. Wouldnt even pick up below the lowest reading.
Hey mate, thanks for the info!
Yeah going off feel (nipple tenderness) and a sudden weight gain of 2kg.
I'll stay calm and not take anymore AI until I get bloods next week
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@waggat now that’s looks like some good meals
Why not for sure. You are creative.
How long have you been running the EQ for now? Doesn't feel like it's been that long.Ok so in the last two days I've had some nipple tenderness. It prompted me to take 12.5mg Aromasin yesterday morning. Was still feeling it in the evening so took another.
Weighed myself this morning and was up 2.2kg from the day before.
So I would like to nominate myself for aromitisation king
This prompted me to make a record of my cycle in terms of gear, AI and E2.
View attachment 138327
Appears as though even at 1:1 the EQ isn't doing enough. Also, I guess up until this last week the Nolvadex was masking the high E2?
I plan on getting bloods on Wednesday next week. Maybe from here on out I'll try 12.5mg Aromasin EOD?
Man I didn't realize you were running test so high. Bold moves considering you're the aromatization king lol
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lets see how it goes
Hey mate, I guess the original plan was to run up to 450 or so test only and control E with an AI.
Started the EQ four weeks ago.
Yeah you still got a ways to go bro before the EQ can manage the E2 for you. You're like 8 to 10 weeks for blood saturation so you're barely halfway there LOL. Hopefully the AI can keep you in check for a bit then the EQ can slide on in there and finish the job and topple the king LOL
Workout yesterday.
Was a good one. I've changed abs to push day and shorted each day slightly.
I've also been playing around a bit with back off sets and even a drop set on this one.
20 min incline treadmill
10 min yoga style stretching
06/11/25 - Push
Incline DB press (kg each side)
Warmups, 22.5x10, 27.5x8, 32.5x7
Incline cable fly (kg each side)
7.5x12, 10x11, 11.25x10
Cable lateral - (kg each side)
5x12, 7.5x10, dropset 5x6
Db shoulder press (kg db's)
Warmup, 20x10, 25x8, 30x6
Cable pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 20x12, 25x10, 30x10
Leg raises
Crunches
Planks
30 min incline treadmill
Was a good one. I've changed abs to push day and shorted each day slightly.
I've also been playing around a bit with back off sets and even a drop set on this one.
20 min incline treadmill
10 min yoga style stretching
06/11/25 - Push
Incline DB press (kg each side)
Warmups, 22.5x10, 27.5x8, 32.5x7
Incline cable fly (kg each side)
7.5x12, 10x11, 11.25x10
Cable lateral - (kg each side)
5x12, 7.5x10, dropset 5x6
Db shoulder press (kg db's)
Warmup, 20x10, 25x8, 30x6
Cable pushdown (kg)
Warmup, 20x12, 25x10, 30x10
Leg raises
Crunches
Planks
30 min incline treadmill
I'm still loving these macros keep protein as your highest macro with your goals.
There's many candidates LOL
@waggat be sure and post your bloods here when you get them something is off about your e2.
Hey mate, yep will do re protein. I feel the current setup is fairly dialled in.
Yes will be interesting to see where the E2 is at.
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waiting
Needs LCMS e2 test , going to be at least a 10 day wait to get the results back. Probably the worst thing about using EQwaiting
Was just going to get the standard panel from roidsafe which has normal E2. Do you think I should add LCMS E2?
Yes, the standard test can't tell the difference between e2 and e1 makes it pointless when using EQ
$60 more from memory,
I might get the full panel from roidsafe (I bought a bulk lot) and then just the LCMS E2 from imedical then.
Is the bulgogi @waggat ?
Bro you are a master chef. Your pics make my mouth water every time. LITERALLY!
Yeah it is but I guess it's an easier version using mince. Another one that is nice and pretty easy though.
Nah the recipe uses finely grated apple. Seems to come out ok.
That's half the equation. Apple and Asian pear is where the authentic flavour comes from. I said plum by mistake before lol. I'm clearly not the cook
Hmm im not entirely sure that has to be the case of eq fully saturating before it influences e2. There has been at least 4 other aussies who were the same as my self where it got hit straight away. Such a hostile compound from person to person and its effects.
I feel now that if someone is thinking about eq, gotta be willing to run regular bloods to find your sweet spot or you may find yourself chasing tail to get to where you want. Fuck the American boys make it seem sooo easy haha.
Thays enough outta you @waggat bro you should be on a master chef show hahs
It would be great to see you try the cycle your on now from the beginning and see if it still has the same effects on e2 at the start.
Oh interesting. I crushed your e2 right away? That's a good fact to know going in
Food for last two days below.
One day I had lunch and dinner at my mum's place and it threw everything off. Burnt the extra cals mowing the lawn though.
Yesterday was a bit short on protein due to missing my normal shake.
Meal pic from dinner the other night. Porterhouse steak and salad.
And fish and veggies the night before.
One day I had lunch and dinner at my mum's place and it threw everything off. Burnt the extra cals mowing the lawn though.
Yesterday was a bit short on protein due to missing my normal shake.
Meal pic from dinner the other night. Porterhouse steak and salad.
And fish and veggies the night before.
Workout yesterday.
Went with a mate and hit some good numbers. Had to adjust or add sets on the fly.
No cardio other than a 10 min warmup though.
09/11/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmup, 45x10, 55x8, 65x8, 72.5x8
HS incline press (kg each side)
Warmup, 25x10, 32.5x10, 40x9
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 10x12, 12.5x10, 15x10 (bent arm)
Cable lateral (kg each)
7.5x10, 10x9 dropset 7.5x8
Rope tricep pushdown (kg)
15x14, 20x13, 25x12, 25x9
PJR pullover (kg)
25x14, 30x13, 35x11, 37.5x10
Went with a mate and hit some good numbers. Had to adjust or add sets on the fly.
No cardio other than a 10 min warmup though.
09/11/25 - Push
Incline BB press (kg)
Warmup, 45x10, 55x8, 65x8, 72.5x8
HS incline press (kg each side)
Warmup, 25x10, 32.5x10, 40x9
Db lateral raise (kg each)
Warmup, 10x12, 12.5x10, 15x10 (bent arm)
Cable lateral (kg each)
7.5x10, 10x9 dropset 7.5x8
Rope tricep pushdown (kg)
15x14, 20x13, 25x12, 25x9
PJR pullover (kg)
25x14, 30x13, 35x11, 37.5x10
Pushing the macros hard! Very nice.
Bro your meals are always looking so healthy yet so damn tasty
Its nice training with someone every now and then to really push it harder then we could solo. Sometimes we realise we are capable of more then we realise
Workout yesterday.
Good leg day. Got to do hack squats again. Look forward to getting the numbers up on them. Swapped from walking lunges to Bulgarians. Haven't done them for a while. Will just have to work out the form ti hit the quads.
20 min incline treadmill
10 min yoga style stretching
11/11/25 - Legs
Leg extension (kg)
warmups, 84.5x13, 98.5x12, 112.5x10
Hack squat (kg)
1xwarmup, 40x11, 60x10, 80x9
Bulgarian split squats (kg each hand)
Warmup, 10x12, 18x11, 24x11
Back extension (kg)
Warmup, 25x13, 40x12
Machine calf (kg)
Warmup, 50x20, 70x20, 90x18
30 min incline treadmill
Good leg day. Got to do hack squats again. Look forward to getting the numbers up on them. Swapped from walking lunges to Bulgarians. Haven't done them for a while. Will just have to work out the form ti hit the quads.
20 min incline treadmill
10 min yoga style stretching
11/11/25 - Legs
Leg extension (kg)
warmups, 84.5x13, 98.5x12, 112.5x10
Hack squat (kg)
1xwarmup, 40x11, 60x10, 80x9
Bulgarian split squats (kg each hand)
Warmup, 10x12, 18x11, 24x11
Back extension (kg)
Warmup, 25x13, 40x12
Machine calf (kg)
Warmup, 50x20, 70x20, 90x18
30 min incline treadmill
From Asia back to the mediterranean. I'm noticing a pattern with you haha
Love it mate... So good hey... Well the pain isn't the best but that passes quickly
You know it's going to be a fun final set when you only just get the reps on the set before then add weight!Good to have a nice target / plan as well!
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Good leg day, the 80 kg hacks and 24 kg splits build serious leg density
How did your legs feel after this workout? I love the hack squats right after the leg extensions! OUCH!! I love that shit! keep it up Lets fucking go!!
Oh my goodness!! That Thai bowl is some serious food porn!! I think I might have drooled a bit
Yeah mate awesome hey. Have just recently changed to them from leg press as main quad exercise due to seeing so many people do them. I love that they seem to hit the lower area hard.
I like the way they make your quads feel wide
@MarkNV jump on board with our new calfe routine its s burner
It looks like a burner! I will try next time I do them. I like when when you can’t take
Blood test results.
As a reminder, current dose is as follows:
Test E - 300mg/week (changed from 375 a week ago)
EQ - 400mg/ week (changed from 360 a week ago)
Anavar - 30mg/day
A bit worried about the white cell stuff. Is that an issue?
As a reminder, current dose is as follows:
Test E - 300mg/week (changed from 375 a week ago)
EQ - 400mg/ week (changed from 360 a week ago)
Anavar - 30mg/day
A bit worried about the white cell stuff. Is that an issue?
Means you're probably fighting some type of illness. How are you feeling?
Pretty much normal. I guess I'll get tests again in a few weeks and see if it's back to normal.
It's possible you were fighting something off and never got sick. I've had similar blood tests before. Pretty much exactly with elevated neutrophils. If I remember right that means it's a new infection, but don't quote me on that
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Your white cell count at 3.3 with neutrophils at 1.6 is mild suppression, nothing serious there imo @waggat
and most of the time it comes from stress, recent illness rather than anything serious, i agree with @BeMe its likely past illness
This level usually rebounds once calories, sleep and recovery improve.
I would sleep a bit more, add a nap or 2 here and there, and add an extra deload day per week to start off
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interesting, this is why we need a blood work sub will start one soon talking to management @Dreamer
Your bloods are actually quite solid, could be a little dehydrated giving a higher HCT and Urea, but see the e2? Definitely not high and as I was saying the symptoms can overlap, if anything, on a ratio to your free t, its probably a little lower than optimal.
I would love that Lev, blood work posts are my favourite, I find it fascinating
Hey mate, yeah thanks for 'talking me down'
It's interesting, I see some people comment on high E2 regardless and other (like you now) talk more about the number in comparison with T numbers.
I crashed my e2 on one of my cycles convinced it was high, but nah, it was already low and I started popping arimidex and it just got worse and worse haha.Hey mate, yeah thanks for 'talking me down'
It's interesting, I see some people comment on high E2 regardless and other (like you now) talk more about the number in comparison with T numbers.
My e2 is actually at 215 with my free test at 1250 and I feel great. E2 isnt always the enemy
Oh ya that reminds me when I got those readings my doc did run a copper test soon after and I was a bit low to.
I was like but I'm an electrician and I handle copper all day lol. Guess it doesn't work that way apparently.
I got on a copper supplement after as well. I was sick at the time of the original test though so I think it was a happy coincidence in the end.
I went down a rabbit hole of copper supplementation - it actually does ALOT, I feel so much better after adding some copper into my supps, apparently takes months to fully restore, its also apparently why my ast/alt is often high, even though ggt is fine and all my scans show literally nothing.
I love this stuff - its like a puzzle haha
Ya me too. You should get a fitness tracker. If you like geeking out on little changes and how they effect you a tracker is a lot of fun.
I use Oura ring man, I had a whoop but could never get good readings with my tattoos, I think Whoop had better data for lifting though
Oh shit ya that's right. I like the pics you post with the layout for oura with the floating tiles. Yea the tats mess whoop up. When I wear my bicep strap I have to put it on the inside of my arm.
I think almost everyone here would appreciate a tracker. Even if you don't kick out on all the metrics, it really gives you a lot of motivation for life improvements. I stopped drinking altogether because of my whoop and do more cardio because of it. They really push you to be better
Same man, when I was drinking, it would just absolutely tank all my metrics, worked out pretty quick I was never going to get my fitness goals with that, funny enough, even full cycle doses arent as bad as 6 beers on the metrics haha
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