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USA!too much demand nowwhat country you in? @Jayster3
How should I start? With dosage? I’m on 100mg test. I pin 7 units every day
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check real primobolan from Greg @domestic-supply.com he's got some now @Jayster3
https://domestic-supply.com/injectables/primobolan-methenolone/
lets get the primo before we talk doses
Or if there’s something else I can try as well
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primobolan and test is not bad
@Jayster3 Keep smashing it bro! Great update!
@jayster 3 really nice training man. Glad to see the update and it’s going good
in about 3 weeks 3/20/26 I'm going to get Bloodwork from 200mg of test everyday, 4 iu of HGH and 6mg of reta. I want to start primobolan after as well. Will there be someone who can help guide me and what to watch out for when I start? I may not have updates every week because I'm tracking on app. I'm dialed in calories besides the weekend.
Weeks 1-2 macros are 180p, 227c 70f 233.4lbs and 233 lbs
Week 3 180p, 144c, 75f 231.9 lbs
Week 4(now)- Week 7 180g 85g 75g 230.5 lbs (right now not end of week yet)
Weeks 1-2 macros are 180p, 227c 70f 233.4lbs and 233 lbs
Week 3 180p, 144c, 75f 231.9 lbs
Week 4(now)- Week 7 180g 85g 75g 230.5 lbs (right now not end of week yet)
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why primobolan why not use equipoise? @Jayster3
Hmm what’s difference? I heard EQ is a bit worse lol
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I think in general primobolan is a waste of money for most guys, it has no more impact than proviron. @Jayster3
equipoise low dose you can control e2 eaiser
Donated double red on 2/6.
A week after blood donation 2/13
Results today! Let's get it! This basically 2 weeks on 200mg of test!
Every time I do measure it it would vary, but always should be in normal range right? Next one is 3/14. I took this one because I wanted to see how Id react to 200mg so I was anxious.
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were you able to do e2 tests? @Jayster3 besides hematocrit everything seems fine
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Question I’m pinning everyday on ventro flutes. Recently. I got pain from both glutes. Just like when you press it is sore. I went for ventro glutes because it didn’t affect my arms, walking and etc. any ideas
Hey bro need to switch injection sites give the VG a break for a bit , i keep at least a week between hitting same spot again
https://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm
Hey bro, with the high hematocrit , is this normal for you? 200mgs of test i wouldnt of thought would raise it. How much water are you drinking a day?
Now I’m drink more water. Before I was terrible. Less than 80 is a day
Yeah could be the main cause for the high hematocrit, so important for blood and kidneys. Keep it up
Decent bloods, need to get HCT under control though / were you dehydrated before the test?
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not bad actually
This was on 1/22!not bad actually
HELP today my estradiol came back. What can I do?
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This is high and I didn't realize that was a month ago missed it sorry @Jayster3
what can you do? need to bump the aromasin in there asap 10mgs eod
I’m actually pretty confused to be honest. As 6ft starting at 233 now around 230 in 4 weeks that’s not a lot of weight loss.
I workout 5x a week. 4x of 25 minutes cardio eating this much calories, why am I not dropping weight faster???
I understand if I was like 15% and want to get shredded, but come on I should be dropping like crazy. Also I measure all my food.
Steak and chicken all raw… some steak have so many fat differences so I use the higher fat. Fine even if that fat gives me 200 extra calories, I’ll be at like 1900 or 2000 calories. Thats still pretty low no?
I workout 5x a week. 4x of 25 minutes cardio eating this much calories, why am I not dropping weight faster???
I understand if I was like 15% and want to get shredded, but come on I should be dropping like crazy. Also I measure all my food.
Steak and chicken all raw… some steak have so many fat differences so I use the higher fat. Fine even if that fat gives me 200 extra calories, I’ll be at like 1900 or 2000 calories. Thats still pretty low no?
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There is an aspect of fat loss and muscle gains you're not taking into account, you can gain about 1lb of mass in 4 weeks even in a deficit in theory and drop some bodyfat. Remember, this is a long term plan not 4 weeks more like 16+ @Jayster3 and dropping 3lbs of bodyfat is HUGE!!!!
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Any bf drop is huge
Hey mate,
Great log so far brother, loving the updates!
I had the exact same stall when I started test, there’s going to be water weight and your body will try to put on fat if your cortisol and/or estrogen are high. As long as you get your e2 under control with your AI you’ll start dropping weight retaining muscle and your water weight will go away.
We also have periods of weight stagnation. It’s not a linear process your bodies just trying to keep you alive lol
No no bro this is a good pace for fat loss. Muscle is dense and heavier and you want to keep that on. Don't worry so much about the number on the scale, you'll see it in the mirror bro. Maybe post up some really current physique shots and let us see because you likely won't see it by looking at yourself every day.
Your cals are low just make sure and hit your protein macros and don't run carbs so low that you're fatigued or not cognitively sharp.
Always rotate sites. Never pin the same site eod pin after pin. You check out here for all sorts of options. I pin all the over the place and never pin one spot more than once every week at the very most. See here: https://trtinjections.com/
You're not dropping 'weight' you're dropping fat (vs. muscle) and this takes longer and the scale moves slower as well. Losing a lot of weight fast usually means your losing muscle, we don't want that.
Imo calories are too low and you metabolism will slow as you stay there.
However "weight" loss is purely thermodynamics.
Where people get this wrong is thinking that calories in vs calories out is the only consideration. For weight loss it is, for fat loss its much more then this.
Dont become a slave to the scale as your only metric to gauge fat loss brother. Progress photos, muscle area measurements, performance retention on the log book all need to be considered to paint a picture if we are -
Losing fat
Building muscle
Losing muscle
I just underwent a serious almost 6 month cut and ended with only a 4kg difference but a significant change in composition.
Ultimately resulting in a super effective recomp.
Scale dont tell us everything my brother look at all aspects.
Everyone else made awesome points. I'll keep it simple.
1) The loss isn't factoring in muscle gained.
2) Peaks and troughs. Don't be thrown off by random short term measurements. Eg you were 2lb lighter two days before. Need to track over a longer period and look at trend.
3) Losing a tonne of weight is easy. We are trying to do it smart. This means keeping (or gaining) muscle so you don't screw your metabolism and weight stays off long term.
Should I take an AI?Hey mate,
Great log so far brother, loving the updates!
I had the exact same stall when I started test, there’s going to be water weight and your body will try to put on fat if your cortisol and/or estrogen are high. As long as you get your e2 under control with your AI you’ll start dropping weight retaining muscle and your water weight will go away.
We also have periods of weight stagnation. It’s not a linear process your bodies just trying to keep you alive lol
Yeah for sure, here’s Lev’s advice from a while back.
Do I have to be on it forever?
At the moment you body is aromatising alot and it’s likely to do with having 20% bf. So if you get alot leaner on your journey the less you’ll convert so it may not be necessary.
It’s pretty important to get frequent bloods to be able to analyse how everything is interacting.
In saying that, some people that are skinny aromatise alot aswell but in general the more body fat you have the more you’ll aromatise
Here’s 1/22 bloodwork again for everyone reference. This is my 8 week mark taking 140mg 2x a week. 
Then I donated double blood and waiting a week and got another bloodwork and yolo it.
Here’s this Friday’s blood work on 200mg pinned daily.
My red blood cells are all in normal range so I didn’t take a screen shot.
Then I donated double blood and waiting a week and got another bloodwork and yolo it.
Here’s this Friday’s blood work on 200mg pinned daily.
My red blood cells are all in normal range so I didn’t take a screen shot.
Ughhh that’s why it’s contradicting if the weight is slow I might have high estridol for a while
You can control e2 through using aromasin, use lev’s guidance based on your bloodwork.
It should regulate pretty quickly. Your latest photos should a really big improvement aswell bro! Sometimes it’s hard to see the results in the mirror when you look everyday, you’re doing great!
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good progress pics really much leaner and bigger too, shoulders arms bigger in such a short time
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says estradiol high but whats the amount?
Not crazy high, are you having any symptoms?
Haha. I mean nothing new popped out of me if that’s the question.
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I would like it closer to 45 if you can get it down, Ais? @Jayster3
I’m considering doing primo. Have vial ready. 200mg test and 200 primo? I can mix it
It will certainly help with e2 yes, you will likely find yourself drier and fuller
Alot of different opinions on whats the best way to control e2 - I had a shit time with AI’s I believe because of how low my SHGB is, I could never get anywhere near stable, EQ made a big difference in controlling it, I am on 1200 test and feel great in comparison to a TRT dose and trying to control e2
I hear mix where it needs to be 2:1? I know I’m still high body fat, would this help me shed more. I am eating and working out properly
Try it at 1:1 and see what 2 weeks feels like, potentially get more bloods done and assess from there.
It wont help you shed, but it will help you gain lean mass and look better
Can you explain since I’m also holding fat. I’m assuming I’m doing it right by slowly losing the fat and honestly fully there’s muscle growing under
What part do you want me to explain?
You cant really gain muscle and lose fat effectively at the same time, you can absolutely hold muscle and lose fat on your dosages or you can gain muscle - but the fat remains.
The drugs and dosages dont really change this, whether your eating in a surplus/deficit does.
But on 200 Test/ 200 primo, eating in a slight deficit and training hard, you will look a million times better at the end of 12 weeks , you will hold all your lean mass maybe gain a little and the fat will come off.
So for me I don’t have much lean mass as you can see in pictures lol. Now I’m confused what I should do. Gain muscle or try to gain muscle on a deficit or what.
I am eating hella deficit.
You would have more lean mass than you think, but take the primo out of the equation for mass or muscle its to control your e2 - anything else is a bonus.
I would keep cutting down and get as lean as I possibly can if I were you.
What sort of deficit you eating in, past 500-700 calorie deficit becomes underfueling and more harmful long term - have you considered reta or gh if your not using them already?
I would keep cutting down and get as lean as I possibly can if I were you.
What sort of deficit you eating in, past 500-700 calorie deficit becomes underfueling and more harmful long term - have you considered reta or gh if your not using them already?
I was in 2300 calories now at like a 1750 calories. I am taking Reta too. 6mg
I truly believe your calories are too low, did you drop them because the scale stalled or you wanted to speed up the loss
Speed up!
Not a good approach - you will end up skinny fat, please do me something, go on google, get onto a TDEE calculator, fill it out and let me know what the number is
I had my rmr tested. It was like 2100
You shouldnt be eating under your basal rate, I know its hard mentally to think more food would fuel better fat loss, but working out your TDEE and eating slightly under that is the way to cut without losing any lean mass and looking worse; when you eat too low, your body will effectively start catabolising and rather than using fat for fuel, it will hold the fat and burn protein instead. Your true deficit is actually probably somewhere around 2500-2600 and that is probably still on the lower end if your training 5x a week and getting decent steps
You will 100% get smaller doing this, but you wont get leaner
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Jeeez. Before all this and weighing out food 2500-2600 looks sooo scary haha. I feel like I’ll gain weight just on the food itself
I made this same mistake in my early days man, lost like 15kg and then looked back and realised I had no muscle left, not lean, but malnourished and small.
Truly, use a TDEE calc and you will be suprised - trust the process
Awesome assistance from @Dreamer here!
Agree 1750 is too low.
@Jayster3 what was your weight loss in the one month progress photos above? And what were your macros in that period? 2300 or 1750?
You definitely don't want to drop weight too quickly. If you do (and the gear will help prevent this but only to an extent), a significant amount will be muscle. That means that: 1) you won't look that good anyway and 2) you'll effect you're metabolism in the long-term.
Agree 1750 is too low.
@Jayster3 what was your weight loss in the one month progress photos above? And what were your macros in that period? 2300 or 1750?
You definitely don't want to drop weight too quickly. If you do (and the gear will help prevent this but only to an extent), a significant amount will be muscle. That means that: 1) you won't look that good anyway and 2) you'll effect you're metabolism in the long-term.
Pick one of these options,
if your libido becomes really low or you get dry achy joints you're likely low and all you need to do is lower the dosing of the ai or primo.
These are guys are recommending these numbers through their knowledge and experience,
you'll retain more muscle during your cut using the primo instead of the ai.
You can get your bloods done 6 weeks after starting the AI or primo to see how you are going as it should be relatively stable by then.
Also you don't look 30%, low 20's i think.
Haha thank you! Not even close. So if I’m on 200mg test, do 100mg primo? I’m taking labs 3/21 for a comprehensive one. So I can take 100mg primo and see where I am.Pick one of these options,
if your libido becomes really low or you get dry achy joints you're likely low and all you need to do is lower the dosing of the ai or primo.
These are guys are recommending these numbers through their knowledge and experience,
you'll retain more muscle during your cut using the primo instead of the ai.
You can get your bloods done 6 weeks after starting the AI or primo to see how you are going as it should be relatively stable by then.
Also you don't look 30%, low 20's i think.
Now question is this. If we take labs 4-6 weeks whatever we see issue in blood doesn’t that mean technically you been 4-6 weeks with that issue?
100mg will be a good place to start, it wont crash your e2 and if you feel flat libido, sore joints, low energy, brain fog etc - do bloods sooner - but primo will take 2-3 weeks to fully express in your bloods/body anyway.
And yes, that is true, but very few things are acutely dangerous that will cause you much harm having them for 4-6 weeks except maybe hugely elevated rbc and hct, or liver numbers - which youd feel and get bloods anyway.
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you do need to modify ai primo for e2 moves but best is ai movesPick one of these options,
if your libido becomes really low or you get dry achy joints you're likely low and all you need to do is lower the dosing of the ai or primo.
These are guys are recommending these numbers through their knowledge and experience,
you'll retain more muscle during your cut using the primo instead of the ai.
You can get your bloods done 6 weeks after starting the AI or primo to see how you are going as it should be relatively stable by then.
Also you don't look 30%, low 20's i think.
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I would go with taking aromasin @Jayster3 you shouldn't use steroids as an ai
How many mg?
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depends we need to go back into 1 discussion full bloods and gear and plans imo
So I got a Dexa beginning of year. I only really truly dieted 2/1. So I’m in about 5 weeks now. This is the progress.
Ultimately my goal is to build muscle but I know I got a long way to go.
Given 5 weeks of training. Putting on almost 4lbs of lean muscle is normal or good?
Supplements
Test 200mg
Reta 6mg
Hgh 1000iu per week
Hcg 4iu every day.
I did take primo about 133mg but I figure I’ll pause until I drop some more in weight.
Ultimately my goal is to build muscle but I know I got a long way to go.
Given 5 weeks of training. Putting on almost 4lbs of lean muscle is normal or good?
Supplements
Test 200mg
Reta 6mg
Hgh 1000iu per week
Hcg 4iu every day.
I did take primo about 133mg but I figure I’ll pause until I drop some more in weight.
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huge progress
@Jayster3 well done! and putting on 4lbs of mass is amazing not just good! EVO family respect your way
@Jayster3 the supplements that you have laid out are very organized. Only thing is you mixed up the growth hormone and HCG. I'm pretty sure you meant HCG 1000 IU's and then the HCG H4 IU's not the other way around.
It's okay man. I know that you are your worst critic. We got a lot of confidence in you. Let's make sure we stay consistent going forward and we can do the dexa see what happens. @Jayster3
Four pounds and lean muscle is pretty good man. @Jayster3 I mean my goodness, that's almost one pound a week so I'm not sure what you're complaining about. That is a great accomplishment.
The questions here would be around training and diet
@Jayster3 Bros, primo, probably a good idea. Wait till you lower your body fat. It's going to work much better because it's good for lean muscle mass and cuts.
Thanks for taking the time to post up the scan. Now by the time the log finishes or maybe half way through, you can do another scan and compare and contrast the differences. Let's hit this hard. @Jayster3
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I guess haha
@Jayster3 Keep grinding bro! Keep the log coming!
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its a fact not a guess you're injecting testosterone
@Jayster3 those tests dont tell you much like 50/50 off many times
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u mean?its a fact not a guess you're injecting testosterone
those tests dont tell you much like 50/50 off many times
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insulin sensitivity lab tests arent always correct they are hard to get locked in, the labs guess many times @Jayster3
@Jayster3 looks like it’s really good progression
Question. If someone can provide me some more clarification on PED.
With test as base and added like hgh and primo, am I suppose to feel different. Like with a locked in nutrition and exercise, how much would it be different if I didn’t use any enhancements?
To this day since I don’t have muscle like all of you have to show, I know the importance of food, but at the same time I don’t seem it like top top. I feel like working out is more important. If someone can understand what I mean.
I know muscle take time to grow, I thought ped would help it? I know I’m carrying some fat too but even losing it I feel like I’m scrawny.
With test as base and added like hgh and primo, am I suppose to feel different. Like with a locked in nutrition and exercise, how much would it be different if I didn’t use any enhancements?
To this day since I don’t have muscle like all of you have to show, I know the importance of food, but at the same time I don’t seem it like top top. I feel like working out is more important. If someone can understand what I mean.
I know muscle take time to grow, I thought ped would help it? I know I’m carrying some fat too but even losing it I feel like I’m scrawny.
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Food and training are #1 and #2, PEDs are far down the line. The issue is you're not really updating food or training so how can we help? @Jayster3
in everyone experience in a caloric deficit, muscle gain and training progression is not optimized to it's fullest extent right?
I know my goal is fat loss first bringing body fat a bit lower with exercise and training. but obviously my lifts arent like sky rocketing especially at a 1800 calories.
I know my goal is fat loss first bringing body fat a bit lower with exercise and training. but obviously my lifts arent like sky rocketing especially at a 1800 calories.
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I would concentrate on fat loss first and go from there
muscle after
Here's my weekly checkin Sunday.
I'm currently 216-217lbs.
200mg test split 3x M/W/F
100mg primo
4-6mg of Reta
1000 IU HCG
180g P, 85g C, 75g F
I dropped HGH because I want to measure my igf levels this week.
I'm swamped so I haven't been posting here, but I'm almost on the next step.
This Saturday I'm going to get a full BB bloodwork panel. Question, to see where my test level is at, what am I looking for? I have a dose on Friday so do I still take my dose or wait until after bloodwork? What is the next mg of test I should move up to assuming BW is fine?
It's sad to see, but it looks like when I lose fat, I'm going to look like when I was at my skinniest with basically no muscle.
I also bought 2 vials of tren because when I lose a bit more fat, I'm actually trying to consider it. It can be that I'm not eating enough, but putting muscle always is a struggle. What are all your experiences?
I'm currently 216-217lbs.
200mg test split 3x M/W/F
100mg primo
4-6mg of Reta
1000 IU HCG
180g P, 85g C, 75g F
I dropped HGH because I want to measure my igf levels this week.
I'm swamped so I haven't been posting here, but I'm almost on the next step.
This Saturday I'm going to get a full BB bloodwork panel. Question, to see where my test level is at, what am I looking for? I have a dose on Friday so do I still take my dose or wait until after bloodwork? What is the next mg of test I should move up to assuming BW is fine?
It's sad to see, but it looks like when I lose fat, I'm going to look like when I was at my skinniest with basically no muscle.
I also bought 2 vials of tren because when I lose a bit more fat, I'm actually trying to consider it. It can be that I'm not eating enough, but putting muscle always is a struggle. What are all your experiences?
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Good update but we need way more training diet supp updates @Jayster3
igf level will crash when you stop hgh it wont be a good measure
and dont pin at least 3 days before bloods wait for it
Trenbolone is NOT for fat loss, its going to make you peak prolactin not good, you need to work on diet training cardio which we dont see here.
216 today
Here's the latest update
200mg test split 3x
100mg primo split 3x
6mg reta
1500iu HCG
180g p, 85g c, 75g f
5 day workout
4 day incline cardio 30 minutes
I'm still waiting on test results with estradiol to see how im reacting to primo. So far as for symptoms, not really anything. If anything feel good and ready to workout.
Today I took 1/3 dose of 300mg of test. My plan is to keep at my deficit and really shed this body fat. Maybe 1-2 more months? I don't have a target weight as it's hard to tell. I will get a dexa to see bodyfat % soon as well.
How do you advise either now or when I shed a bit more weight to start focus on building muscle. I have tren A 100 on standby for when I'm ready and have clearer guidance.
From bloodwork, the only thing is Lipid. I'm assuming it's because of the primo. To help counter or mitigate the effects, I'm taking 2500-3000 epa, 1 1200mg citrus bergamot. Any other recommendations?
When should I add tren? Is 300mg of test good? How would you justify to increase it or not after 200mg?
Here's the latest update
200mg test split 3x
100mg primo split 3x
6mg reta
1500iu HCG
180g p, 85g c, 75g f
5 day workout
4 day incline cardio 30 minutes
I'm still waiting on test results with estradiol to see how im reacting to primo. So far as for symptoms, not really anything. If anything feel good and ready to workout.
Today I took 1/3 dose of 300mg of test. My plan is to keep at my deficit and really shed this body fat. Maybe 1-2 more months? I don't have a target weight as it's hard to tell. I will get a dexa to see bodyfat % soon as well.
How do you advise either now or when I shed a bit more weight to start focus on building muscle. I have tren A 100 on standby for when I'm ready and have clearer guidance.
From bloodwork, the only thing is Lipid. I'm assuming it's because of the primo. To help counter or mitigate the effects, I'm taking 2500-3000 epa, 1 1200mg citrus bergamot. Any other recommendations?
When should I add tren? Is 300mg of test good? How would you justify to increase it or not after 200mg?
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Staying steady
@Jayster3 you need to up the carbs and protein way more.and before adding anything we need to see your full bloods
please start updating actual training diet not seeing it or supps
@Jayster3 amazing work on this. The RETA looks fantastic and the testosterone and primo are also on point.
Bros, this is a fantastic layout. I like the five-day workout and I like the four-day incline cardio. That's good dedication. @Jayster3
Testosterone, Primo, Retta, and HCG are a pretty good stack. I am just not a big fan of HCG. @Jayster3 I don't think there are many benefits versus risks.
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