Approved Log Bodybuilding Contest Prep Cycle Log - 2027 Season C

[Demon_throne]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



––––––––––––––––––––––



Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



––––––––––––––––––––––



Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



––––––––––––––––––––––



Coached by: @Gains Man



––––––––––––––––––––––



Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



––––––––––––––––––––––



This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

––––––––––––––––––––––
More details dropping soon

 

[Demon_throne]

Please note that these pre cycle bloods were done post being sick (documented in my last log)



All elevated levels are 100% explained by
• Gastro

• Antibiotics

• Systemic inflammation

• Mild chest infection due to attempting to quitting vapes

 

[OwEv751]

What an epic log start up brother! Definitely following this for future insight.

 

[Demon_throne]

What an epic log start up brother! Definitely following this for future insight.

Thanks bro I plan to detail everything in as much detail as I can because there are many aspects and layers in place. It should be a log that people can refer back to just due to well everything that's listed in compound overview

 

[Kopite67]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



––––––––––––––––––––––



Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



––––––––––––––––––––––



Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



––––––––––––––––––––––



Coached by: @Gains Man



––––––––––––––––––––––



Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



––––––––––––––––––––––



This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

––––––––––––––––––––––
More details dropping soon

Great start brother. Beautifully laid out and a comprehensive breakdown of the plan. Let's get to it legend

 

[Demon_throne]

Great start brother. Beautifully laid out and a comprehensive breakdown of the plan. Let's get to it legend

Fuck yes boss. Let's get this on the road! One for the history books.

There is nothing new about
Test
Nandrolone
Boldankne
As a cycle. With all the extras and the level I plan to document everything it should be something that people can refer back to and be like "hey remember this"

 

[Southern Cross Labs]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



––––––––––––––––––––––



Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



––––––––––––––––––––––



Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



––––––––––––––––––––––



Coached by: @Gains Man



––––––––––––––––––––––



Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



––––––––––––––––––––––



This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

––––––––––––––––––––––
More details dropping soon

Really detailed write up, this log is going to be epic. Everything is dialed in.

I'd be surprise if you aren't under %10 body fat right now.

 

[Demon_throne]

Really detailed write up, this log is going to be epic. Everything is dialed in.

I'd be surprise if you aren't under %10 body fat right now.

I would rather be conservative mainly because of recovering from gastro I'm full again I believe glycogen wise but water is sitting funny at the moment so it's hard to tell

 

[Southern Cross Labs]

I would rather be conservative mainly because of recovering from gastro I'm full again I believe glycogen wise but water is sitting funny at the moment so it's hard to tell

I thought so when reading it better to underestimate

 

[LevButlerov]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



––––––––––––––––––––––



Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



––––––––––––––––––––––



Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



––––––––––––––––––––––



Coached by: @Gains Man



––––––––––––––––––––––



Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



––––––––––––––––––––––



This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

––––––––––––––––––––––
More details dropping soon

Please note that these pre cycle bloods were done post being sick (documented in my last log)



All elevated levels are 100% explained by
• Gastro

• Antibiotics

• Systemic inflammation

• Mild chest infection due to attempting to quitting vapes

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Good to see your new log @Demon_throne following and watching your prep EVO family support!

 

[Demon_throne]

Good to see your new log @Demon_throne following and watching your prep EVO family support!

Thanks lev but this is more off season growth but I can run all between now and competing though as this log

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks lev but this is more off season growth but I can run all between now and competing though as this log

its going to be a full on growth cycle for you and a win a the 2027 show EVO family support and love your way! @Demon_throne

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

Great start to the new log!

 

[Mobster]

Given the timescale I wanna see a pic as you are now vs where you'll be in the time left

 

[Demon_throne]

Given the timescale I wanna see a pic as you are now vs where you'll be in the time left

The 3 days left before it kicks off? I'll be posting photos up for start reference on Sunday

 

[Demon_throne]

Great start to the new log!

Thanks I know the intro post is a bit long winded but I feel I made it engaging and an easy to follow read I'm excited I've been working on this for a while now

 

[R.AP]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



––––––––––––––––––––––



Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



––––––––––––––––––––––



Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



––––––––––––––––––––––



Coached by: @Gains Man



––––––––––––––––––––––



Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



––––––––––––––––––––––



This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

––––––––––––––––––––––
More details dropping soon

Congratulations on the new log brother! Love the detail and the format. You're in good hands now and I cannot WAIT to see where the next leg of this journey takes you.

Following. Of course.

 

[stevesmi]

Official kick off 6/4/2026

This marks the start of my push toward stepping on stage.



The goal over the next 18 months is simple:

Build as much stage-quality muscle as possible while staying within striking distance of conditioning year-round.



This log documents the first growth phase — execution, results, and adjustments in real time.



––––––––––––––––––––––



Starting Stats

Age: 31

Height: 175 cm

Weight: 75kg

Fasted Waist: 29inch

Body Fat: ~10-12%

Previous Years Training: Just over 2 years



Health Markers:

Fasted Glucose: 3.8 mmol/L (blood work) 4.8-5.2 at home

Blood Pressure: 104/66

Resting Heart Rate: 68



––––––––––––––––––––––



Phase Overview (Growth Phase 1)

Duration: 20–26 weeks (bloodwork dependent)



Primary Goals:

- Maximise lean tissue gain

- Remain with in striking distance conditioning wise year round

- Keep body fat under ~15% during growth



Category: Classic Physique



––––––––––––––––––––––



Long-Term Plan to Season C 2027



This will be the first of three logs leading into my first competition season.



1. Growth Phase — Health Phase



2. Growth Phase 2 — Health Phase



3. Pre-Prep Phase

-Prep

-Comp season

-Post show



––––––––––––––––––––––



Current Training Split



Monday — Push

Tuesday — Pull

Wednesday — Lower

Thursday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)

Friday — Upper

Saturday — Lower

Sunday — Rest (Abs/Cardio)



Cardio Target:

~5+ hours per week (primarily for cardiovascular health)



––––––––––––––––––––––



Compound Overview



Note: Supplier/source is listed next to each compound.



Injectable AAS:

- Testosterone Enanthate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Nandrolone Decanoate - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Boldenone Undecylenate - from @Southern Cross Labs



Oral AAS:

- Oxandrolone - from @Southern Cross Labs

- Turinabol - from @Southern Cross Labs



Injectable Peptides / Hormones:

- HGH - from @Unitedau

- MOTS-c - from @Unitedau

- NAD+ - from @Unitedau

- Retatrutide - from @Unitedau

- SS-31 - from @Unitedau

- DSIP - from @Unitedau



Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:

- Methylene Blue - from @CladHQ

- SLU-PP-332 (lab not associated with evo or ef)

- 5-Amino-1MQ (lab not associated with evo or ef)



Support / Ancillaries:

- Insulin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Metformin - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Telmisartan - from @Gold Standard Labs

- Cialis - from @Unitedau

- Arimidex - from @Unitedau

- Cabergoline - from @Unitedau

- T3 / T4 - from @CladHQ



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Support Supplementation



Health Support:

- Fish oil (9 caps daily)

- Citrus bergamot (1000 mg)

- CoQ10 (150 mg)

- Magnesium glycinate (4 caps daily)

- Baby aspirin (75–100 mg)

- Vitamin E (500 IU, 3x/week)



Performance / Recovery:

- Creatine (9 g)

- Taurine (2 g)

- L-tyrosine (1 g)

- L-glutamine (5 g)



Hormonal Support:

- P5P (100 mg)



Base Support:

- Men’s Vital (Cycle support – @RGSX )



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Growth Phase Targets (If Execution Is On Point)



Estimated Outcomes Over ~6 Months:

- Muscle: +4–6 kg

- Fat: +2–3 kg

- Glycogen / Intracellular Water: +3–5 kg



Plan Post-Growth Phase:

Transition into a health phase, using mitochondrial support and a caloric reduction to strip accumulated fat and take conditioning back to base line without requiring an aggressive cut.



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Posting Structure



1. Training day reviews

2. Occasional slice of life updates

3. Weekly “Week in Review” (Sunday recap)

4. Coach check-in summaries



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Coached by: @Gains Man



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Sponsors



Full AAS Sponsor: EVO & EF

@Southern Cross Labs / @Southern cross labs rep

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/southern-cross-labs-intro-thread.109477/



Threema: 3SHTVEX8



Peptide Sponsor: EF (formally on evo)

@Unitedau

https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/threads/united-peptides-introduction.1516916/



Threema: 83MBBZ7W



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This is where things start to get serious.



The focus is execution, consistency, and making adjustments based on real data — not guesswork.



Let’s get to work.

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More details dropping soon

@Demon_throne this is another great log that you're putting together. It's going to be absolutely epic. Looking forward to seeing how much you can push yourself.

 

[ceo]

Please note that these pre cycle bloods were done post being sick (documented in my last log)



All elevated levels are 100% explained by
• Gastro

• Antibiotics

• Systemic inflammation

• Mild chest infection due to attempting to quitting vapes

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Bros, hopefully you can quit vapes. That shit is nasty. It really gets into your lungs and causes a lot of damage. @Demon_throne

 

[Ulter]

Please note that these pre cycle bloods were done post being sick (documented in my last log)



All elevated levels are 100% explained by
• Gastro

• Antibiotics

• Systemic inflammation

• Mild chest infection due to attempting to quitting vapes

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Really good layout on this blood work. @Demon_throne cholesterol levels are a bit off but that's pretty common. Make sure you're hitting your support supplements.

 

[Demon_throne]

Congratulations on the new log brother! Love the detail and the format. You're in good hands now and I cannot WAIT to see where the next leg of this journey takes you.

Following. Of course.

Thanks R.ap I've been working on the format in the background for the last few weeks hence why that intro post is like 700 words but reads well and does not drag on

@Demon_throne this is another great log that you're putting together. It's going to be absolutely epic. Looking forward to seeing how much you can push yourself.

Thank you Steve it's not like it's a new concept (nandrolone and boldanone) but with the utilisation of the peptide stack I'm hoping it will avoid the typical deca blow out look so it's kind of an experiment which tryuly gets me excited

Bros, hopefully you can quit vapes. That shit is nasty. It really gets into your lungs and causes a lot of damage. @Demon_throne

There the worst man so far so good I kept a "dead" one so that I can keep the motion going and "pretend"

Really good layout on this blood work. @Demon_throne cholesterol levels are a bit off but that's pretty common. Make sure you're hitting your support supplements.

Support stack I feel is very much covered I don't think there are any gaping holes. The supplement stack as listed only kicked off 3 days ago

 

[ROIDDERS]

Please note that these pre cycle bloods were done post being sick (documented in my last log)



All elevated levels are 100% explained by
• Gastro

• Antibiotics

• Systemic inflammation

• Mild chest infection due to attempting to quitting vapes

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@Demon_throne I've also read that vaping makes your cholesterol levels worse as well. I would imagine getting a constant dopamine rush all the time from vaping would definitely cause that.

 

[Demon_throne]

@Demon_throne I've also read that vaping makes your cholesterol levels worse as well. I would imagine getting a constant dopamine rush all the time from vaping would definitely cause that.

It definetly wouldn't be doing it any favours

 

[ROIDDERS]

It definetly wouldn't be doing it any favours

Yeah there's several guys on here who vape. Unfortunately, hopefully everybody can kick the habit and better themselves.

 

[stevesmi]

Thank you Steve it's not like it's a new concept (nandrolone and boldanone) but with the utilisation of the peptide stack I'm hoping it will avoid the typical deca blow out look so it's kind of an experiment which tryuly gets me excited

These peptides are extremely important today. Back in the old days they used to laugh at people who were using them. Now what would we do without them?

 

[Demon_throne]

These peptides are extremely important today. Back in the old days they used to laugh at people who were using them. Now what would we do without them?

Some people still do laugh at peptides but I think that's ignorance not knowing what things actually do and the purpose of them (becides the basic ones like the GLP's)

 

[Demon_throne]

So I've allready had a few people reachout and express concern about the things I have listed in the original post.



No not everything is being implemented at once. I'll list the prime example that has been brought up.



I am not stacking 2 orals at once. The idea is Oxandrolone at the start of the cycle considering I am using long esters (Nandrolone Decanoate and Boldenone Undecylenate). The utilisation of Turinabol will (if it's used) be late into the cycle as a a booster probably will line up with a push in food and possibly a Strength-focused mesocycle

 

[stevesmi]

Some people still do laugh at peptides but I think that's ignorance not knowing what things actually do and the purpose of them (becides the basic ones like the GLP's)

yep they do. i'm sure on other 'idiot meathead' forums they bash you for even bringing them up. their loss

 

[Demon_throne]

yep they do. i'm sure on other 'idiot meathead' forums they bash you for even bringing them up. their loss

I coped so much shit for my mock prep cycle on the other forums I was posting on.

The way I see it is everyone reacts differently to compounds. How do you know if you can run something like Tren as an example for something as important as a bodybuilding prep if you don't know how you respond to it. Yes it's not something you "must use" but with out the knowlage and experience if a coach was to program it and you respond terribly and it was also deployed say 4 weeks out that could ruin your whole look

 

[Demon_throne]

A few shots from over the last week for reference for my starting point for this growth phase.

Currently sitting a little more watery then shown but after being sick it's expected a few good days and I'll be back to this anyway

 

[Kopite67]

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A few shots from over the last week for reference for my starting point for this growth phase.

Currently sitting a little more watery then shown but after being sick it's expected a few good days and I'll be back to this anyway

Looking good brother. Still totally peeled

 

[LevButlerov]

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A few shots from over the last week for reference for my starting point for this growth phase.

Currently sitting a little more watery then shown but after being sick it's expected a few good days and I'll be back to this anyway

you're looking good size is building up

 

[Demon_throne]

First little break down for the cycle.

Injectable peptides/hormones.

- HGH
6iu daily for now with the possibility of the plan being to increase to 9iu and doing split dosages, 3iu fasted and 6pre bed.
- MOTS-c
Currently at 2mg fasted daily, with he intention of increasing it to 4mg daily once ss31 is in the picture
- NAD+
Currently dosed at 50mg daily with planned escalation as the cycle progresses to 75mg then to 100mg
- Retatrutide
Keeping it low currently at 3mg weekly
- SS-31
Not currently in the cycle but the plan is to bring it into the cycle towards the end and continue it through the following health phase
- DSIP
Just being used as an experiment currently at 300mcg daily so far I've not noticed anything so I'm not sure if it will be something I continue utilising.

 

[Kopite67]

First little break down for the cycle.

Injectable peptides/hormones.

- HGH
6iu daily for now with the possibility of the plan being to increase to 9iu and doing split dosages, 3iu fasted and 6pre bed.
- MOTS-c
Currently at 2mg fasted daily, with he intention of increasing it to 4mg daily once ss31 is in the picture
- NAD+
Currently dosed at 50mg daily with planned escalation as the cycle progresses to 75mg then to 100mg
- Retatrutide
Keeping it low currently at 3mg weekly
- SS-31
Not currently in the cycle but the plan is to bring it into the cycle towards the end and continue it through the following health phase
- DSIP
Just being used as an experiment currently at 300mcg daily so far I've not noticed anything so I'm not sure if it will be something I continue utilising.

That is quite a number on the HGH bro. You are certainly not fucking around with this cycle.

 

[Demon_throne]

That is quite a number on the HGH bro. You are certainly not fucking around with this cycle.

Well with using 360kits it's easier math doing 6iu then trying to fuck around with 5iu

 

[Ulter]

Support stack I feel is very much covered I don't think there are any gaping holes. The supplement stack as listed only kicked off 3 days ago

I think you're doing great on your stacks.

 

[ceo]

There the worst man so far so good I kept a "dead" one so that I can keep the motion going and "pretend"

Bros, that's a smart strategy. Hopefully you're able to kick it.

 

[Demon_throne]

Stack Break down part 2

Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:



- Methylene Blue -
Dosage 20mg daily

• Helps offset:

• High metabolic demand from T3/T4

• Increased oxidative stress from AAS + GH

• Can improve:

• Workout output

• Mental clarity



- SLU-PP-332
Dosage 100mg daily split 30mg/40mg/30mg

• Increases:

• Mitochondrial biogenesis

• Fat oxidation

• Energy expenditure



- 5-Amino-1MQ
Dosage 100mg daily split 50mg/50mg

• Helps with:

• Nutrient partitioning

• Slight reduction in fat storage

• Works nicely alongside:

• GH

• Metformin

• Your high-carb setup



How they work together

• Methylene Blue → efficiency

• SLU-PP-332 → expenditure

• 5-Amino-1MQ → partitioning

 

[Demon_throne]

Please note stack break downs are comprised through conversations between myself, my coach, sponsors and other members of the community so if any wording ever seems off it's just been a slight oversight on my behalf

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

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A few shots from over the last week for reference for my starting point for this growth phase.

Currently sitting a little more watery then shown but after being sick it's expected a few good days and I'll be back to this anyway

@Demon_throne amazing physique.....good start to log.......

 

[theJimJim]

Great log so far mate! Can't wait to see all the different planned stages come in to effect. Its going to be a good log to follow

 

[Demon_throne]

@Demon_throne amazing physique.....good start to log.......

Thanks bro, I hope to and want to break everything down into detail with out giving out full dosage information before tomorrow.

Working on the last 2 breakdowns so that people know can read and see that everything has its purpose place and reason

 

[LevButlerov]

Stack Break down part 2

Oral / Mitochondrial Stack:



- Methylene Blue -
Dosage 20mg daily

• Helps offset:

• High metabolic demand from T3/T4

• Increased oxidative stress from AAS + GH

• Can improve:

• Workout output

• Mental clarity



- SLU-PP-332
Dosage 100mg daily split 30mg/40mg/30mg

• Increases:

• Mitochondrial biogenesis

• Fat oxidation

• Energy expenditure



- 5-Amino-1MQ
Dosage 100mg daily split 50mg/50mg

• Helps with:

• Nutrient partitioning

• Slight reduction in fat storage

• Works nicely alongside:

• GH

• Metformin

• Your high-carb setup



How they work together

• Methylene Blue → efficiency

• SLU-PP-332 → expenditure

• 5-Amino-1MQ → partitioning

good breakdown 100mgs of slu how do you feel? @Demon_throne

Please note stack break downs are comprised through conversations between myself, my coach, sponsors and other members of the community so if any wording ever seems off it's just been a slight oversight on my behalf

 

[Demon_throne]

good breakdown 100mgs of slu how do you feel? @Demon_throne

On 100mg of Slu I feel great absolutly no issues my split between 1st to last dose is about 10hrs

I think if it was more spread out it could impact sleep and if it was closer together I could run the risk of unwanted effects aha

 

[LevButlerov]

On 100mg of Slu I feel great absolutly no issues my split between 1st to last dose is about 10hrs

I think if it was more spread out it could impact sleep and if it was closer together I could run the risk of unwanted effects aha

lets track it more

 

[Demon_throne]

2nd to last breakdown update

Support / Ancillaries:



The below items cover and support the following-

1. Health protection (BP, glucose, lipids)

2. Side effect control (estrogen, prolactin)

3. Nutrient partitioning / performance



- Insulin -

NovaRapid (possibly lantus in the future)

• Drives glucose + amino acids into muscle

• Highly anabolic when paired with carbs + GH



In my stack-

• Works synergistically with GH and androgens

• Amplifies growth, fullness, glycogen storage



- Metformin -

• Improves insulin sensitivity

• Reduces liver glucose output

• Blunts blood sugar spikes



In my stack-

• Offsets:

• GH-induced insulin resistance

• High carb intake

• Insulin usage risk



- Telmisartan -

• Blood pressure control (ARB)

• Improves insulin sensitivity



In my stack-

• Very valuable because:

• EQ + GH → can increase BP

• Androgens → strain cardiovascular system



- Cialis -

• Vasodilation → better blood flow

• Pumps, endurance, slight BP reduction



In my stack-

• Enhances:

• Training performance

• Nutrient delivery

• Pump (especially with insulin + carbs)



- Arimidex -

• Lowers estrogen (E2)



It's more a as needed thing but it's better to have and not need then need and not have



- Cabergoline -

• Lowers prolactin



It's more a as needed thing but it's better to have and not need then need and not have



- T3 / T4 -

• Increase metabolic rate

• Increase fat burning

• Increase nutrient turnover



In my stack-

• Increase calorie burn

• Increase nutrient demand

• Improve partitioning if I'm fed properly

 

[Kopite67]

2nd to last breakdown update

Support / Ancillaries:



The below items cover and support the following-

1. Health protection (BP, glucose, lipids)

2. Side effect control (estrogen, prolactin)

3. Nutrient partitioning / performance



- Insulin -

NovaRapid (possibly lantus in the future)

• Drives glucose + amino acids into muscle

• Highly anabolic when paired with carbs + GH



In my stack-

• Works synergistically with GH and androgens

• Amplifies growth, fullness, glycogen storage



- Metformin -

• Improves insulin sensitivity

• Reduces liver glucose output

• Blunts blood sugar spikes



In my stack-

• Offsets:

• GH-induced insulin resistance

• High carb intake

• Insulin usage risk



- Telmisartan -

• Blood pressure control (ARB)

• Improves insulin sensitivity



In my stack-

• Very valuable because:

• EQ + GH → can increase BP

• Androgens → strain cardiovascular system



- Cialis -

• Vasodilation → better blood flow

• Pumps, endurance, slight BP reduction



In my stack-

• Enhances:

• Training performance

• Nutrient delivery

• Pump (especially with insulin + carbs)



- Arimidex -

• Lowers estrogen (E2)



It's more a as needed thing but it's better to have and not need then need and not have



- Cabergoline -

• Lowers prolactin



It's more a as needed thing but it's better to have and not need then need and not have



- T3 / T4 -

• Increase metabolic rate

• Increase fat burning

• Increase nutrient turnover



In my stack-

• Increase calorie burn

• Increase nutrient demand

• Improve partitioning if I'm fed properly

And still they keep coming....

 

[Demon_throne]

And still they keep coming....

One more after this about compound selection.

I'm putting everything out there as I said that way people can understand choices and if this cycle is as much of a success as I believe it will be I can go back through and point out what deserved it's spot what worked as intended and what didn't work/ what I would do differently if it was re ran that way someone could take all the wins and possibly even build upon it and yeah turn this log into a living breathing science experiment

 

[Demon_throne]

The final pre start update!!!
The spicy stuff
- Testosterone Enanthate

What it brings:

• Primary anabolic + androgenic driver

• Sets your baseline hormone environment

• Increases:

• Protein synthesis

• Nitrogen retention

• IGF-1 signaling

• Converts to estrogen → important for growth, strength, and joint health



In the stack:

• Acts as the foundation everything else builds on

Supports:

• Strength (neural + muscular)

• Fullness via glycogen + intracellular water

• Keeps libido, mood, and overall function stable
----------------------


- Nandrolone Decanoate

What it brings:

• Highly anabolic, low androgenic

• Strong collagen synthesis + joint support

• Increases intramuscular water retention → fuller, rounder look

• Boosts red blood cell production



In the stack:

Synergises with test to:

• Improve training output longevity

• Reduce joint stress under heavy loads

• Adds dense tissue accrual, but with a slightly “softer” look


----------------------
- Boldenone Undecylenate

What it brings:

• Mild anabolic, very low estrogen conversion

• Major increase in RBC (oxygen delivery)

• Strong appetite stimulation

• Enhances vascularity and “dry” look



In my stack:

Balances Deca by:

• Adding hardness + vascularity

• Reducing overly “watery” appearance

• Improves work capacity + endurance

----------------------
--------------------------------

- Oxandrolone

What it brings:

• Dry, cosmetic hardening

• Significant strength increase without weight gain

• Improves ATP turnover → performance boost



In the stack:

• Early phase tool

• Enhances performance + neural output

• Helps keep look tight while calories rise

• Offsets Deca softness slightly


----------------------
- Turinabol

What it brings:

• Lean, steady tissue accrual

• Less dramatic than Anavar, but more actual mass contribution

• Minimal water retention



In my stack:

• Planned for the Later phase of cycle

• Continues clean growth without spillover

• Maintains performance + density

• Works well when bodyweight is already climbing



With this stack I feel we have essentially built a a cycle that creates an environment that will produce:


Big, full, round muscle

With vascularity + performance

Anchored by strength + hormonal balance

Max growth without excessive fat spill

High training output + recovery

Balanced look (full + relatively dry)

 

[Kopite67]

The final pre start update!!!
The spicy stuff
- Testosterone Enanthate

What it brings:

• Primary anabolic + androgenic driver

• Sets your baseline hormone environment

• Increases:

• Protein synthesis

• Nitrogen retention

• IGF-1 signaling

• Converts to estrogen → important for growth, strength, and joint health



In the stack:

• Acts as the foundation everything else builds on

Supports:

• Strength (neural + muscular)

• Fullness via glycogen + intracellular water

• Keeps libido, mood, and overall function stable
----------------------


- Nandrolone Decanoate

What it brings:

• Highly anabolic, low androgenic

• Strong collagen synthesis + joint support

• Increases intramuscular water retention → fuller, rounder look

• Boosts red blood cell production



In the stack:

Synergises with test to:

• Improve training output longevity

• Reduce joint stress under heavy loads

• Adds dense tissue accrual, but with a slightly “softer” look


----------------------
- Boldenone Undecylenate

What it brings:

• Mild anabolic, very low estrogen conversion

• Major increase in RBC (oxygen delivery)

• Strong appetite stimulation

• Enhances vascularity and “dry” look



In my stack:

Balances Deca by:

• Adding hardness + vascularity

• Reducing overly “watery” appearance

• Improves work capacity + endurance

----------------------
--------------------------------

- Oxandrolone

What it brings:

• Dry, cosmetic hardening

• Significant strength increase without weight gain

• Improves ATP turnover → performance boost



In the stack:

• Early phase tool

• Enhances performance + neural output

• Helps keep look tight while calories rise

• Offsets Deca softness slightly


----------------------
- Turinabol

What it brings:

• Lean, steady tissue accrual

• Less dramatic than Anavar, but more actual mass contribution

• Minimal water retention



In my stack:

• Planned for the Later phase of cycle

• Continues clean growth without spillover

• Maintains performance + density

• Works well when bodyweight is already climbing



With this stack I feel we have essentially built a a cycle that creates an environment that will produce:


Big, full, round muscle

With vascularity + performance

Anchored by strength + hormonal balance

Max growth without excessive fat spill

High training output + recovery

Balanced look (full + relatively dry)

That is a serious cycle brother. Be fascinating watching this unfolds in its entirety

 

[Demon_throne]

All in all bro
Everything is designed in a way to get the most out of everything while mimimising the unwanted effects ( ie the typical water fat look from deca)

I'm sure mobster or stevesmi or someone will go through all of it and be like holy fuck.

 

[LevButlerov]

And still they keep coming....

The final pre start update!!!
The spicy stuff
- Testosterone Enanthate

What it brings:

• Primary anabolic + androgenic driver

• Sets your baseline hormone environment

• Increases:

• Protein synthesis

• Nitrogen retention

• IGF-1 signaling

• Converts to estrogen → important for growth, strength, and joint health



In the stack:

• Acts as the foundation everything else builds on

Supports:

• Strength (neural + muscular)

• Fullness via glycogen + intracellular water

• Keeps libido, mood, and overall function stable
----------------------


- Nandrolone Decanoate

What it brings:

• Highly anabolic, low androgenic

• Strong collagen synthesis + joint support

• Increases intramuscular water retention → fuller, rounder look

• Boosts red blood cell production



In the stack:

Synergises with test to:

• Improve training output longevity

• Reduce joint stress under heavy loads

• Adds dense tissue accrual, but with a slightly “softer” look


----------------------
- Boldenone Undecylenate

What it brings:

• Mild anabolic, very low estrogen conversion

• Major increase in RBC (oxygen delivery)

• Strong appetite stimulation

• Enhances vascularity and “dry” look



In my stack:

Balances Deca by:

• Adding hardness + vascularity

• Reducing overly “watery” appearance

• Improves work capacity + endurance

----------------------
--------------------------------

- Oxandrolone

What it brings:

• Dry, cosmetic hardening

• Significant strength increase without weight gain

• Improves ATP turnover → performance boost



In the stack:

• Early phase tool

• Enhances performance + neural output

• Helps keep look tight while calories rise

• Offsets Deca softness slightly


----------------------
- Turinabol

What it brings:

• Lean, steady tissue accrual

• Less dramatic than Anavar, but more actual mass contribution

• Minimal water retention



In my stack:

• Planned for the Later phase of cycle

• Continues clean growth without spillover

• Maintains performance + density

• Works well when bodyweight is already climbing



With this stack I feel we have essentially built a a cycle that creates an environment that will produce:


Big, full, round muscle

With vascularity + performance

Anchored by strength + hormonal balance

Max growth without excessive fat spill

High training output + recovery

Balanced look (full + relatively dry)

good update you're gtg test deca eq anavar will be a clean cycle @Demon_throne

 

[Demon_throne]

Day 1 / 26 weeks
Fasted cardio
50mins bike.

Push





Incline db (could not get comfortable on the bench today)

Feeder sets:

• 25kg x 10 2 set

Working set

• 30kg x 10 reps
• (Best 35kg x 5)

Flat smith machine/machine bench (yet again I couldn't get comfortable)

Feeder sets

• 49kg x10 2 sets

Working set

• 69kg x 11
• (Best 89kg x 6)

crossoverflys (panatta standing multi flight machine)

Feeder sets

• 60kg x 12 2sets

Working set

• 90kg x10

Db lateral's (going to cables next week)

Feeder sets

• 12.5kg x12

Working set

• 20kg x 8

Barbel upright row

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10

Working set

• 40kg x10

Tricep push down vbar attachment

Feeder sets

• 25kg x 12

Working set

• 40kg x10

Db single arm French press

• 8kg x12 2sets

Working set

• 12.5kg x10

Loaded and ready for the week

@Southern Cross Labs

 

[Koba]

One more after this about compound selection.

I'm putting everything out there as I said that way people can understand choices and if this cycle is as much of a success as I believe it will be I can go back through and point out what deserved it's spot what worked as intended and what didn't work/ what I would do differently if it was re ran that way someone could take all the wins and possibly even build upon it and yeah turn this log into a living breathing science experiment

I am that living breathing science experiment aswell brother with all of my past 30 odd years of being on one continuous cycle without ever comming off or dropping to Trt dosages.

My age & my most recent bloods will attest to a large degree of it being relatively safe to do so, well atleast in my case it was
My motto is...
One life one cycle! ️

 

[Demon_throne]

I am that living breathing science experiment aswell brother with all of my past 30 odd years of being on one continuous cycle without ever comming off or dropping to Trt dosages.

My age & my most recent bloods will attest to a large degree of it being relatively safe to do so, well atleast in my case it was
My motto is...
One life one cycle! ️

* the blast stops when my heart does*

Been waiting for you to show up.

The t3/t4 was added in because of your suggestion with some added research of my own.

I believe when they arrive form @CladHQ I'll need a small carb bump if I'm not mistaken 25-50g just to offset it ? That sound about right

 

[Koba]

* the blast stops when my heart does*

Been waiting for you to show up.

The t3/t4 was added in because of your suggestion with some added research of my own.

I believe when they arrive form @CladHQ I'll need a small carb bump if I'm not mistaken 25-50g just to offset it ? That sound about right

You knew that I was going to show up! Lol
I like that saying!
We should incorporate our sayings into a T-shirt for the more Hardcore amongst us! Yes I would add the carb offset & also monitor your weight fasted every morning for the overall effects (not just for the T3/T4 addition) & if you aren't putting on anywhere from a few grams to a kilo + of bodyweight each week then add additional carbs in also.
Take the T3/T4 in the middle of the night when you get up to pee if you can for a few different reasons.
T3 at a dose of 25mcg taken with T4 100mcgs will help to keep Thyroid levels at the optimum range for metabolism, muscle growth & fat loss effects amongst others too.

 

[Demon_throne]

You knew that I was going to show up! Lol
I like that saying!
We should incorporate our sayings into a T-shirt for the more Hardcore amongst us! Yes I would add the carb offset & also monitor your weight fasted every morning for the overall effects (not just for the T3/T4 addition) & if you aren't putting on anywhere from a few grams to a kilo + of bodyweight each week then add additional carbs in also.
Take the T3/T4 in the middle of the night when you get up to pee if you can for a few different reasons.
T3 at a dose of 25mcg taken with T4 100mcgs will help to keep Thyroid levels at the optimum range for metabolism, muscle growth & fat loss effects amongst others too.

That was the rough plan 25-50g carbs then reasses after 4 days

 

[Kopite67]

View attachment 209979
Day 1 / 26 weeks
Fasted cardio
50mins bike.
View attachment 209981
Push





Incline db (could not get comfortable on the bench today)

Feeder sets:

• 25kg x 10 2 set

Working set

• 30kg x 10 reps
• (Best 35kg x 5)

Flat smith machine/machine bench (yet again I couldn't get comfortable)

Feeder sets

• 49kg x10 2 sets

Working set

• 69kg x 11
• (Best 89kg x 6)

crossoverflys (panatta standing multi flight machine)

Feeder sets

• 60kg x 12 2sets

Working set

• 90kg x10

Db lateral's (going to cables next week)

Feeder sets

• 12.5kg x12

Working set

• 20kg x 8

Barbel upright row

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10

Working set

• 40kg x10

Tricep push down vbar attachment

Feeder sets

• 25kg x 12

Working set

• 40kg x10

Db single arm French press

• 8kg x12 2sets

Working set

• 12.5kg x10

View attachment 209982
Loaded and ready for the week

@Southern Cross Labs

Interesting that you couldn't get comfortable on the benches today bro, that happened a couple of weeks ago as well. Could the lack of bodyfat be the cause as bench ridges are pushing directly into muscular tissue?
Still looking good brother

 

[Demon_throne]

Interesting that you couldn't get comfortable on the benches today bro, that happened a couple of weeks ago as well. Could the lack of bodyfat be the cause as bench ridges are pushing directly into muscular tissue?
Still looking good brother

Possibly I'm going to probably swap to machines for a few weeks while everything gets rolling

 

[LevButlerov]

View attachment 209979
Day 1 / 26 weeks
Fasted cardio
50mins bike.
View attachment 209981
Push





Incline db (could not get comfortable on the bench today)

Feeder sets:

• 25kg x 10 2 set

Working set

• 30kg x 10 reps
• (Best 35kg x 5)

Flat smith machine/machine bench (yet again I couldn't get comfortable)

Feeder sets

• 49kg x10 2 sets

Working set

• 69kg x 11
• (Best 89kg x 6)

crossoverflys (panatta standing multi flight machine)

Feeder sets

• 60kg x 12 2sets

Working set

• 90kg x10

Db lateral's (going to cables next week)

Feeder sets

• 12.5kg x12

Working set

• 20kg x 8

Barbel upright row

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10

Working set

• 40kg x10

Tricep push down vbar attachment

Feeder sets

• 25kg x 12

Working set

• 40kg x10

Db single arm French press

• 8kg x12 2sets

Working set

• 12.5kg x10

View attachment 209982
Loaded and ready for the week

@Southern Cross Labs

legs and abs look like they pop hard nice inclines real strong

 

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[Demon_throne]

Today's log.

Must say Viagra and Anavar with insulin and high carbs is nasty and I like it

Pull up's

• Bw x22
• Bw+ 17.5kg x 8

Close grip lat pull down duel clip

Feeder sets

• 35kg x10
• 45kg x10

Working set

• 55kg x 8

Back off set

• 35kg till failure then partials

Bent over db row

Feeders

• 30kg x10

Working set

• 55kg x8

Back off

• 30kg x10

Reverse peck deck

Feeder sets

• 54kg x 10
• 68kg x10

Working set

• 89kg x10

Back off

• 54kg x failure

Cable face pull

Feeder sets

• 17.5kg x10
• 25kg x10

Working set

• 36.25kg x 10

Machine bicep curl (Cybeex eagle arm curl)

Feeder sets

• 31.5kg x10
• 49.5kg x 10

Working set

• 85.5kg x 8

Back off set

• 31.5kg x failure/partials

Db hammer curl

Feeder set

• 15kg x10

Working set

• 20kg x9

Back off set

• All the way down the track from 20kg-12.5kg

No pump pic today went to go do posing but the room was occupied, couldn't wait around since it's school holidays had to come home to tag in the other half so she can train.

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's log.

Must say Viagra and Anavar with insulin and high carbs is nasty and I like it

Pull up's

• Bw x22
• Bw+ 17.5kg x 8

Close grip lat pull down duel clip

Feeder sets

• 35kg x10
• 45kg x10

Working set

• 55kg x 8

Back off set

• 35kg till failure then partials

Bent over db row

Feeders

• 30kg x10

Working set

• 55kg x8

Back off

• 30kg x10

Reverse peck deck

Feeder sets

• 54kg x 10
• 68kg x10

Working set

• 89kg x10

Back off

• 54kg x failure

Cable face pull

Feeder sets

• 17.5kg x10
• 25kg x10

Working set

• 36.25kg x 10

Machine bicep curl (Cybeex eagle arm curl)

Feeder sets

• 31.5kg x10
• 49.5kg x 10

Working set

• 85.5kg x 8

Back off set

• 31.5kg x failure/partials

Db hammer curl

Feeder set

• 15kg x10

Working set

• 20kg x9

Back off set

• All the way down the track from 20kg-12.5kg

No pump pic today went to go do posing but the room was occupied, couldn't wait around since it's school holidays had to come home to tag in the other half so she can train.

pull ups are perfect lets get pump pics tomorrow as you pump again

 

[Demon_throne]

pull ups are perfect lets get pump pics tomorrow as you pump again

It's legs tomorrow I'll snap one after cardio because I've bumped my mots up for the month as a test and I'll grab one post leg day after work

 

[LevButlerov]

It's legs tomorrow I'll snap one after cardio because I've bumped my mots up for the month as a test and I'll grab one post leg day after work

the legs are gonna pump

 

[Demon_throne]

But if a lazy post today guys.

Tri's and claves looking on point!!!!

 

[Demon_throne]

After 2 years of doing high volume (4-6 sets per exercise) I'm really missing volume with my current plan.

In chats with @Gains Man at the moment about possibly stripping it and adding tempo as an option or a second set that's like -2 from failure as a second option or a 70%weight back off set. Or a combination where there of.

Just to satisfy the feeling I have that I'm missing volume I mean going from 1-2 sets yeah that's doubling my work load but that's also where the second set being shy of failure or 70% weight( like a deload weeks weight) would lower the double up fatigue, and should also mean I can push food a little more because I'm using more but I also feel the extra volume will also cause extra growth.

Maybe even a basic burn out at the end of the days to add some extra volume with out too much fatigue or taking away from recovery

ie: push ups till failure on push day.

Any who sorry for confusing everyone but I do also use this as a place for my thoughts because that's all part of the journey

 

[LevButlerov]

But if a lazy post today guys.
View attachment 211162Tri's and claves looking on point!!!!



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After 2 years of doing high volume (4-6 sets per exercise) I'm really missing volume with my current plan.

In chats with @Gains Man at the moment about possibly stripping it and adding tempo as an option or a second set that's like -2 from failure as a second option or a 70%weight back off set. Or a combination where there of.

Just to satisfy the feeling I have that I'm missing volume I mean going from 1-2 sets yeah that's doubling my work load but that's also where the second set being shy of failure or 70% weight( like a deload weeks weight) would lower the double up fatigue, and should also mean I can push food a little more because I'm using more but I also feel the extra volume will also cause extra growth.

Maybe even a basic burn out at the end of the days to add some extra volume with out too much fatigue or taking away from recovery

ie: push ups till failure on push day.

Any who sorry for confusing everyone but I do also use this as a place for my thoughts because that's all part of the journey

100kg on single leg is not lazy its amazing @Demon_throne
interesting lets see how you doing with the new @Gains Man plan

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[Alice_In_Ironland]

After 2 years of doing high volume (4-6 sets per exercise) I'm really missing volume with my current plan.

In chats with @Gains Man at the moment about possibly stripping it and adding tempo as an option or a second set that's like -2 from failure as a second option or a 70%weight back off set. Or a combination where there of.

Just to satisfy the feeling I have that I'm missing volume I mean going from 1-2 sets yeah that's doubling my work load but that's also where the second set being shy of failure or 70% weight( like a deload weeks weight) would lower the double up fatigue, and should also mean I can push food a little more because I'm using more but I also feel the extra volume will also cause extra growth.

Maybe even a basic burn out at the end of the days to add some extra volume with out too much fatigue or taking away from recovery

ie: push ups till failure on push day.

Any who sorry for confusing everyone but I do also use this as a place for my thoughts because that's all part of the journey

I do two working sets per exercise only Both of those I take to failure. If I don’t progress on both sets, I add a 3rd set and do the same weight sort of AMRAP style (usually 6-8 reps if the two working sets were 10-15) - so progress still made. Honestly nowadays I feel I get so much stimulus from the first two sets if I progress in reps or load that I could not (and do not want to) do any more. Especially when doing those sets with maximum ROM/ standardised form & slow cadence/ tempo (more TUT) - It’s an adjustment to move to lower volume training, but it’s a different kind of hard once you get into the swing of it, definitely very conducive to gains & better recovery/ joint health

 

[Grumpy]

Looking solid @Demon_throne
Strong session

 

[Demon_throne]

I do two working sets per exercise only Both of those I take to failure. If I don’t progress on both sets, I add a 3rd set and do the same weight sort of AMRAP style (usually 6-8 reps if the two working sets were 10-15) - so progress still made. Honestly nowadays I feel I get so much stimulus from the first two sets if I progress in reps or load that I could not (and do not want to) do any more. Especially when doing those sets with maximum ROM/ standardised form & slow cadence/ tempo (more TUT) - It’s an adjustment to move to lower volume training, but it’s a different kind of hard once you get into the swing of it, definitely very conducive to gains & better recovery/ joint health

For me it's also I'm pushing a fair whack of weight on my top sets. They are progressing but it on some lifts is fractional each week. An example would be my single leg leg press from today I'm close to that extra rep say 7/8ths the way there.

I think we have decided on doubling the volume and adding bw burnouts. (Push ups at the end of chest day, inverter rows for pull, walking lunges on legs)

Kind of as a flush out/ burn out

 

[Yuri]

But if a lazy post today guys.
View attachment 211162Tri's and claves looking on point!!!!



View attachment 211159View attachment 211160View attachment 211161

Roadmaps running though them legs bro! Looking sharp

 

[Eveflorence]

But if a lazy post today guys.
View attachment 211162Tri's and claves looking on point!!!!



View attachment 211159View attachment 211160View attachment 211161

Lean and vascular brother looking elite

 

[Demon_throne]

Second last cardio sesh for the week in the books I think. Currently sitting at 5x50mins

Starting next week by volume is being essentially doubled. With the addition of body weight burnouts.

So what is a body weight burnout???

Essentially smash the fuck out of your normal workout. Then on push day (assuming you do ppl or something of that nature) you introduce push-ups as an addition. You could play around with variations but I think I'll just do diamond's.

Part of the reason is to re flush the muscles that were trained with blood, my push day I start with chest and end with tri's

So far no difference on 4mg mots c compared to 2mg

 

[Demon_throne]

Roadmaps running though them legs bro! Looking sharp

Legs and back are definetly my strongest point

Lean and vascular brother looking elite

Thanks bro appreciate the support for you boys on team raptor..


Working on this log yes it's for accountability. Part of it is because i am sponsored but at the end of the day i do this shit because I fucking love it. Hope you boys stick around and check in periodically this should be one epic log!

 

[waggat]

But if a lazy post today guys.
View attachment 211162Tri's and claves looking on point!!!!



View attachment 211159View attachment 211160View attachment 211161

Really good looking leg workout there mate. Good balance of exercises.

 

[Yuri]

Legs and back are definetly my strongest point

Thanks bro appreciate the support for you boys on team raptor..


Working on this log yes it's for accountability. Part of it is because i am sponsored but at the end of the day i do this shit because I fucking love it. Hope you boys stick around and check in periodically this should be one epic log!

My brother your approach and intention for logging amazing and also what makes a good log and community not juts doing it for a sponsor!

Heck yeah bro - we’re all here if you ever have questions or need to bounce ideas!

 

[Kopite67]

View attachment 211522

Second last cardio sesh for the week in the books I think. Currently sitting at 5x50mins

Starting next week by volume is being essentially doubled. With the addition of body weight burnouts.

So what is a body weight burnout???

Essentially smash the fuck out of your normal workout. Then on push day (assuming you do ppl or something of that nature) you introduce push-ups as an addition. You could play around with variations but I think I'll just do diamond's.

Part of the reason is to re flush the muscles that were trained with blood, my push day I start with chest and end with tri's

View attachment 211526
So far no difference on 4mg mots c compared to 2mg

Sounds like a brutal few session's coming up brother

 

[Demon_throne]

Sounds like a brutal few session's coming up brother

It will be because I've been on one top set this wole year

 

[Demon_throne]

Upper

Updated programming


Side mounted single side isolateral incline chest (hammer strength)

feeder set

• 10kg x20
• 20kg x 20

Working sets to failure

• 40kg x9
• 40kg x7

Peck deck low seat

Feeder sets

• 54kg x 10
• 74kg x

Working sets

• 91.5 x8
• 91.5 x 7

Reverse grip lat pull down

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10
• 40kg x 10

Working set

• 55kg x9
• 55kg x8

Chest supported low row

Feeder sets

• 21.25kg x10
• 30kg x10

Working sets

• 45kg x10
• 45kg x9

cable laterals

(First day 10/4, playing around with set up position) best time will be proper now I've worked out positioning

• 5kg x 13
• 5kg x 11
• 5kg x 15

Panatta alternate curling machine (weight is plates added)

Warm up set

• 10kg x15
• 20kg x12
• 22.5kg x10

Working sets

• 23.75kg x9
• 23.75kg x7

Single arm overhead tricep cable

feeder set

• 7.5kg x15

Working sets

• 12.5kg x 8

Absolutly loved today's work out .

Burn out sets and that are not being added in for a few weeks as the main focus is progression. Now with a second top set I feel I should be able to break plateaus

 

[Allupfromhere]

Solid work brother! Big things in line for you these next couple of years

 

[Demon_throne]

Solid work brother! Big things in line for you these next couple of years

Gains said the exact same thing bro. Most people once they go into a growth phase drop their cardio I'll still be doing 5hrs a week as my goal, tho part of me does worry I'll end up out pacing my food

 

[Demon_throne]

Current cals and macros btw. Don't to try holding it roughly here until week 2 is in the books and everything is more or less "online" or starting to get to that point

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

Gains said the exact same thing bro. Most people once they go into a growth phase drop their cardio I'll still be doing 5hrs a week as my goal, tho part of me does worry I'll end up out pacing my food

I like cardio in off season too for insulin sensitivity and fitness (can’t train with intensity if you’re not fit). Biggest impact is on recovery when you’ve gone some weeks without a de-load. Growing muscles is very energy intensive. HIIT cardio is good bang for buck - all the same benefits achieved in much less time/ better recovery thereafter.

 

[Demon_throne]

I like cardio in off season too for insulin sensitivity and fitness (can’t train with intensity if you’re not fit). Biggest impact is on recovery when you’ve gone some weeks without a de-load. Growing muscles is very energy intensive. HIIT cardio is good bang for buck - all the same benefits achieved in much less time/ better recovery thereafter.

I think what I do is considered miss?

Hr in the 120-130range for 50mins according to the Apple Watch 420kcal. Fasted 9odd hrs pre weight sesh. I am kind of leveraging it to help minimise spill but I also think just by protocol alone I'll start out pacing my food

 

[Kopite67]

Upper

Updated programming


Side mounted single side isolateral incline chest (hammer strength)

feeder set

• 10kg x20
• 20kg x 20

Working sets to failure

• 40kg x9
• 40kg x7

Peck deck low seat

Feeder sets

• 54kg x 10
• 74kg x

Working sets

• 91.5 x8
• 91.5 x 7

Reverse grip lat pull down

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10
• 40kg x 10

Working set

• 55kg x9
• 55kg x8

Chest supported low row

Feeder sets

• 21.25kg x10
• 30kg x10

Working sets

• 45kg x10
• 45kg x9

cable laterals

(First day 10/4, playing around with set up position) best time will be proper now I've worked out positioning

• 5kg x 13
• 5kg x 11
• 5kg x 15

Panatta alternate curling machine (weight is plates added)
View attachment 212308
Warm up set

• 10kg x15
• 20kg x12
• 22.5kg x10

Working sets

• 23.75kg x9
• 23.75kg x7

Single arm overhead tricep cable

feeder set

• 7.5kg x15

Working sets

• 12.5kg x 8

Absolutly loved today's work out .

Burn out sets and that are not being added in for a few weeks as the main focus is progression. Now with a second top set I feel I should be able to break plateaus

Great session brother. Working hard now

 

[LevButlerov]

Upper

Updated programming


Side mounted single side isolateral incline chest (hammer strength)

feeder set

• 10kg x20
• 20kg x 20

Working sets to failure

• 40kg x9
• 40kg x7

Peck deck low seat

Feeder sets

• 54kg x 10
• 74kg x

Working sets

• 91.5 x8
• 91.5 x 7

Reverse grip lat pull down

Feeder sets

• 25kg x10
• 40kg x 10

Working set

• 55kg x9
• 55kg x8

Chest supported low row

Feeder sets

• 21.25kg x10
• 30kg x10

Working sets

• 45kg x10
• 45kg x9

cable laterals

(First day 10/4, playing around with set up position) best time will be proper now I've worked out positioning

• 5kg x 13
• 5kg x 11
• 5kg x 15

Panatta alternate curling machine (weight is plates added)
View attachment 212308
Warm up set

• 10kg x15
• 20kg x12
• 22.5kg x10

Working sets

• 23.75kg x9
• 23.75kg x7

Single arm overhead tricep cable

feeder set

• 7.5kg x15

Working sets

• 12.5kg x 8

Absolutly loved today's work out .

Burn out sets and that are not being added in for a few weeks as the main focus is progression. Now with a second top set I feel I should be able to break plateaus

strong day alt curls good 23s pumping it!

 

[Demon_throne]

strong day alt curls good 23s pumping it!

I love this machine it feels so good

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

I think what I do is considered miss?

Hr in the 120-130range for 50mins according to the Apple Watch 420kcal. Fasted 9odd hrs pre weight sesh. I am kind of leveraging it to help minimise spill but I also think just by protocol alone I'll start out pacing my food

Yes I think likely you will begin to outpace your input & recovery as time goes on!
I think if you eat a mostly wholefood diet or stick to your meal plan, increase input only when performance and weight stalls, push training performance, and keep most carbs around the training window you don’t need to worry about spill-over or excessive fat gain - at least that’s been my experience

 

[Demon_throne]

Yes I think likely you will begin to outpace your input & recovery as time goes on!
I think if you eat a mostly wholefood diet or stick to your meal plan, increase input only when performance and weight stalls, push training performance, and keep most carbs around the training window you don’t need to worry about spill-over or excessive fat gain - at least that’s been my experience

Thanks sis .

Yeah recovery will be a big one I'll have to keep track of but I'm planin on making one of my rest days a full rest day meaning no cardio not even 10k steps just relax and do the shit I need to to survive in life aha

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

Thanks sis .

Yeah recovery will be a big one I'll have to keep track of but I'm planin on making one of my rest days a full rest day meaning no cardio not even 10k steps just relax and do the shit I need to to survive in life aha

Nice! That’s the dream!

 

[Demon_throne]

Nice! That’s the dream!

Well this short little open body builder I know (was in the overalls for season c nationals Ifbb last year) said if you can afford it push a little harder over your 6 days and give into rest on the 7th take your self for a massage, do your adulting shit. Eat your meals but that's the extent of your bodybuilding life on that final day..

So to not worry about 10k steps for that final day all you need is an extra 1667 steps each of the 6 others.

 

[LevButlerov]

I love this machine it feels so good

if it feels good do it

 

[Koba]

Thanks sis .

Yeah recovery will be a big one I'll have to keep track of but I'm planin on making one of my rest days a full rest day meaning no cardio not even 10k steps just relax and do the shit I need to to survive in life aha

Hi Big bro
The amount of cardio to do in a push phase is highly dependent on your individual metabolism, your current level of muscle mass & your food intake & the type of training that you are doing.

I've experimented lots with low warmup feeder sets & taking the last set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular & sometimes beyond aka Dorian Yates type training but this backfired for me as I suffered the majority of my numerous injuries form training this way.
Dorian was also badly injured by this type of training & that's why he retired from bodybuilding competitions.

I am naturally tall & thin with a fast metabolism so I should in theory be suited to low set failure training to help conserve energy for recovery & growth. Energy conservation was a major part of Arthur Jones & Mike Mentzer's original concept behind it all.

Apart from Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates & now Hunter Labrada to name a few, there haven't been too many examples of Bodybuilders making it to the top with this type of training.

The major flaw with it is that not many people possess the natural ability to be able recruit a maximum amount of muscle hypertrophy with only 1 set taken to the point of momentary muscular failure.

Without possessing a strong neural connection (mind muscle connection) to the muscles that you are working & with only 1 working set to get it right it can easily be possible that your nerves will fail before your muscles do which will make you stronger but it may not lead to maximum increases in muscle size (hypertrophy)

Fellow Aussie & successful Pro Bodybuilder Josh Lenartowicz who your quite a few Coaches have learned some of their concepts from used the concept of taking the last working set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular failure but incorperated a lot of light building sets before hand & as much as eight exercises, four to eight sets per exercise, and a workout tally of 42 to 52 sets.
He did this to create a neurological connection (mind muscle connection) in order to prevent injury with one overload heavy-max set & also to accrue time under tension.
Switching your training to a higher volume should help you to increase your muscle growth for the reasons that I mentioned.

Providing that your Ped, nutrition & recovery is on point then even doing 2 sets to failure & or a drop set can only increase the hypertrophy signal to the muscles especially if the neural connection is poor for only one all out set.

You can also opt to train like Ronnie Coleman using extremely heavy weights with a fast paced rep tempo & utilise continuous tension like he did for numerous sets at a reasonably high volume but the injury potential is also great with this style of training, take a look at poor Ronnie now he can hardly walk & has had 13 major surgeries that have cost him nearly 2 million dollars.

Now where cardio comes into this equation is if you are doing low sets low volume weight training proving that your nutrition is adequate & that you don't have a very fast metabolism you can do cardio & get away with it providing that you have an awesome neural connection to stimulate the muscle growth in the first place.

If we are doing higher volume training it will demand a higher calorie intake because it creates a higher demand for energy.

If you have a fast metabolism & or if your calories are not high enough & you perform a lot of cardiovascular exercise on top of your weight training then you won't be able to grow as effectively & effectively.

I personally never did any cardio as a part of my training during the Offseason & push phases & I was always around 10% bodyfat measured by dexa scan Offseason.

Precontest I hardly ever did any cardio at all either & when I did do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat more & when I didn't do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat less.
I was always one of the most or the most conditioned bodybuilders on stage at my competitions.

Now as far as the health benefits of cardio, I have been lifting weights intensely & constantly (never had a week off from training) for 35 years.
I have also been taking Aas at Bodybuilding doses (one continuous cycle) with no Trt for 30 odd years straight.
I must mention that I didn't use HGH or any health promoting agents like Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan, Empagliflozin etc for those 30 odd years.

As far as my health is concerned for not doing much cardio & being on cycle for that long, my most recent bloods from my current cycle have come back as being immaculate like a 20 years old but as you know I am over 50 years old.
I am using Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan & Dapigloflozin in my current push which have probably added something to these good blood tests results.

*I should add to this too that I am supposed to be doing 10,000 steps per day minimum & 25 mins of fasted cardio in my current push & I may or may not have done this as planned (sorry Coach) but hey we are all individuals & we learn to do what's best for what we want to achieve for our own bodies over time

@Alice_In_Ironland
@Kopite67
@Grumpy
@Allupfromhere

 

[Koba]

Well this short little open body builder I know (was in the overalls for season c nationals Ifbb last year) said if you can afford it push a little harder over your 6 days and give into rest on the 7th take your self for a massage, do your adulting shit. Eat your meals but that's the extent of your bodybuilding life on that final day..

So to not worry about 10k steps for that final day all you need is an extra 1667 steps each of the 6 others.

I don't think that I have ever done 10,000 steps in 1 day in my entire life except on bushwalks

 

[Demon_throne]

Hi Big bro
The amount of cardio to do in a push phase is highly dependent on your individual metabolism, your current level of muscle mass & your food intake & the type of training that you are doing.

I've experimented lots with low warmup feeder sets & taking the last set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular & sometimes beyond aka Dorian Yates type training but this backfired for me as I suffered the majority of my numerous injuries form training this way.
Dorian was also badly injured by this type of training & that's why he retired from bodybuilding competitions.

I am naturally tall & thin with a fast metabolism so I should in theory be suited to low set failure training to help conserve energy for recovery & growth. Energy conservation was a major part of Arthur Jones & Mike Mentzer's original concept behind it all.

Apart from Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates & now Hunter Labrada to name a few, there haven't been too many examples of Bodybuilders making it to the top with this type of training.

The major flaw with it is that not many people possess the natural ability to be able recruit a maximum amount of muscle hypertrophy with only 1 set taken to the point of momentary muscular failure.

Without possessing a strong neural connection (mind muscle connection) to the muscles that you are working & with only 1 working set to get it right it can easily be possible that your nerves will fail before your muscles do which will make you stronger but it may not lead to maximum increases in muscle size (hypertrophy)

Fellow Aussie & successful Pro Bodybuilder Josh Lenartowicz who your quite a few Coaches have learned some of their concepts from used the concept of taking the last working set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular failure but incorperated a lot of light building sets before hand & as much as eight exercises, four to eight sets per exercise, and a workout tally of 42 to 52 sets.
He did this to create a neurological connection (mind muscle connection) in order to prevent injury with one overload heavy-max set & also to accrue time under tension.
Switching your training to a higher volume should help you to increase your muscle growth for the reasons that I mentioned.

Providing that your Ped, nutrition & recovery is on point then even doing 2 sets to failure & or a drop set can only increase the hypertrophy signal to the muscles especially if the neural connection is poor for only one all out set.

You can also opt to train like Ronnie Coleman using extremely heavy weights with a fast paced rep tempo & utilise continuous tension like he did for numerous sets at a reasonably high volume but the injury potential is also great with this style of training, take a look at poor Ronnie now he can hardly walk & has had 13 major surgeries that have cost him nearly 2 million dollars.

Now where cardio comes into this equation is if you are doing low sets low volume weight training proving that your nutrition is adequate & that you don't have a very fast metabolism you can do cardio & get away with it providing that you have an awesome neural connection to stimulate the muscle growth in the first place.

If we are doing higher volume training it will demand a higher calorie intake because it creates a higher demand for energy.

If you have a fast metabolism & or if your calories are not high enough & you perform a lot of cardiovascular exercise on top of your weight training then you won't be able to grow as effectively & effectively.

I personally never did any cardio as a part of my training during the Offseason & push phases & I was always around 10% bodyfat measured by dexa scan Offseason.

Precontest I hardly ever did any cardio at all either & when I did do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat more & when I didn't do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat less.
I was always one of the most or the most conditioned bodybuilders on stage at my competitions.

Now as far as the health benefits of cardio, I have been lifting weights intensely & constantly (never had a week off from training) for 35 years.
I have also been taking Aas at Bodybuilding doses (one continuous cycle) with no Trt for 30 odd years straight.
I must mention that I didn't use HGH or any health promoting agents like Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan, Empagliflozin etc for those 30 odd years.

As far as my health is concerned for not doing much cardio & being on cycle for that long, my most recent bloods from my current cycle have come back as being immaculate like a 20 years old but as you know I am over 50 years old.
I am using Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan & Dapigloflozin in my current push which have probably added something to these good blood tests results.

*I should add to this too that I am supposed to be doing 10,000 steps per day minimum & 25 mins of fasted cardio in my current push & I may or may not have done this as planned (sorry Coach) but hey we are all individuals & we learn to do what's best for what we want to achieve for our own bodies over time

@Alice_In_Ironland
@Kopite67
@Grumpy
@Allupfromhere

Don't make me tag him bro. @ S W C C .

I enjoy my cardio time I'll see with in a few days if I'm truly out pacing my food which is a simple fix by just bring up my peri carbs

Think it's almost a net neutral at the movement

 

[Alice_In_Ironland]

Hi Big bro
The amount of cardio to do in a push phase is highly dependent on your individual metabolism, your current level of muscle mass & your food intake & the type of training that you are doing.

I've experimented lots with low warmup feeder sets & taking the last set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular & sometimes beyond aka Dorian Yates type training but this backfired for me as I suffered the majority of my numerous injuries form training this way.
Dorian was also badly injured by this type of training & that's why he retired from bodybuilding competitions.

I am naturally tall & thin with a fast metabolism so I should in theory be suited to low set failure training to help conserve energy for recovery & growth. Energy conservation was a major part of Arthur Jones & Mike Mentzer's original concept behind it all.

Apart from Mike Mentzer, Dorian Yates & now Hunter Labrada to name a few, there haven't been too many examples of Bodybuilders making it to the top with this type of training.

The major flaw with it is that not many people possess the natural ability to be able recruit a maximum amount of muscle hypertrophy with only 1 set taken to the point of momentary muscular failure.

Without possessing a strong neural connection (mind muscle connection) to the muscles that you are working & with only 1 working set to get it right it can easily be possible that your nerves will fail before your muscles do which will make you stronger but it may not lead to maximum increases in muscle size (hypertrophy)

Fellow Aussie & successful Pro Bodybuilder Josh Lenartowicz who your quite a few Coaches have learned some of their concepts from used the concept of taking the last working set of each exercise to the point of momentary muscular failure but incorperated a lot of light building sets before hand & as much as eight exercises, four to eight sets per exercise, and a workout tally of 42 to 52 sets.
He did this to create a neurological connection (mind muscle connection) in order to prevent injury with one overload heavy-max set & also to accrue time under tension.
Switching your training to a higher volume should help you to increase your muscle growth for the reasons that I mentioned.

Providing that your Ped, nutrition & recovery is on point then even doing 2 sets to failure & or a drop set can only increase the hypertrophy signal to the muscles especially if the neural connection is poor for only one all out set.

You can also opt to train like Ronnie Coleman using extremely heavy weights with a fast paced rep tempo & utilise continuous tension like he did for numerous sets at a reasonably high volume but the injury potential is also great with this style of training, take a look at poor Ronnie now he can hardly walk & has had 13 major surgeries that have cost him nearly 2 million dollars.

Now where cardio comes into this equation is if you are doing low sets low volume weight training proving that your nutrition is adequate & that you don't have a very fast metabolism you can do cardio & get away with it providing that you have an awesome neural connection to stimulate the muscle growth in the first place.

If we are doing higher volume training it will demand a higher calorie intake because it creates a higher demand for energy.

If you have a fast metabolism & or if your calories are not high enough & you perform a lot of cardiovascular exercise on top of your weight training then you won't be able to grow as effectively & effectively.

I personally never did any cardio as a part of my training during the Offseason & push phases & I was always around 10% bodyfat measured by dexa scan Offseason.

Precontest I hardly ever did any cardio at all either & when I did do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat more & when I didn't do cardio I had to adjust my calories & eat less.
I was always one of the most or the most conditioned bodybuilders on stage at my competitions.

Now as far as the health benefits of cardio, I have been lifting weights intensely & constantly (never had a week off from training) for 35 years.
I have also been taking Aas at Bodybuilding doses (one continuous cycle) with no Trt for 30 odd years straight.
I must mention that I didn't use HGH or any health promoting agents like Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan, Empagliflozin etc for those 30 odd years.

As far as my health is concerned for not doing much cardio & being on cycle for that long, my most recent bloods from my current cycle have come back as being immaculate like a 20 years old but as you know I am over 50 years old.
I am using Mitochondrial enhancers & Telemesartan & Dapigloflozin in my current push which have probably added something to these good blood tests results.

*I should add to this too that I am supposed to be doing 10,000 steps per day minimum & 25 mins of fasted cardio in my current push & I may or may not have done this as planned (sorry Coach) but hey we are all individuals & we learn to do what's best for what we want to achieve for our own bodies over time

@Alice_In_Ironland
@Kopite67
@Grumpy
@Allupfromhere

Good info here I think different people & different muscle groups can respond to different variations of training volume… the most important things are consistency & quality (exercise selection and execution) and avoiding ‘junk volume’. You gotta ask yourself if different types of ‘extra’ volume add-ons actually contribute to more hypertrophy (if that’s the goal), or are just expending more energy (which could be spared to drive performance for the next exercise) & creating additional fatigue. Whenever I see people do many sets of an exercise, they tend to chase ‘the burn’ & almost never come close to failure… in these cases (provided that it’s a good exercise), they could create more stimulus to the target muscle as well as strength gains doing fewer sets and taking them closer to mechanical failure/ form breakdown.

I personally stick to a daily step count, nutrition, fluid, salt target simply to control the controllables. It’s very much goal & person dependent, but for me it takes the guess work out of things when making changes to training/ nutrition/ PEDs, or simply having an explanation for changes in body weight, performance, energy, etc.

 

[Demon_throne]

Today's sesh..


Leg extension

Feeder

• 47kg x10
• 89.5kg x 10

Working sets

• 131kg x8
• 131kg x6

Back off

• 89.5kg x failure

Single leg leg press (50kg slead) weight listed are in plates

Feeder

• 40kg x 10
• 80kg x 10

Working set

• 115kg x 4
• 55kg x 17

Back off set

• 60kg x10

Pendulum squat

Working

• 120kg x11
• 120kg x 9

Single leg ham curl

Feeders

• 20kg x10
• 32.5kg x10

Working set

• 37.5kg x9
• 37.5kg x 7

Back off set

• 22.5kg x 17

DB stiff legged deadlift

Feeder

• 30kg x10

Working set

• 67.5kg x9
• 67.5kg x7

Standing calf raise (hammer strength)

Working set

• 200kg x 8
• 200kg x 6

Seated calf raise

Working

• 110kg x9
• 110kg x 7

Realised with the extra volume already I'll need intra carbs on leg days at least

Pumped to the shit house

 

[Koba]

Today's sesh..


Leg extension

Feeder

• 47kg x10
• 89.5kg x 10

Working sets

• 131kg x8
• 131kg x6

Back off

• 89.5kg x failure

Single leg leg press (50kg slead) weight listed are in plates

Feeder

• 40kg x 10
• 80kg x 10

Working set

• 115kg x 4
• 55kg x 17

Back off set

• 60kg x10

Pendulum squat

Working

• 120kg x11
• 120kg x 9

Single leg ham curl

Feeders

• 20kg x10
• 32.5kg x10

Working set

• 37.5kg x9
• 37.5kg x 7

Back off set

• 22.5kg x 17

DB stiff legged deadlift

Feeder

• 30kg x10

Working set

• 67.5kg x9
• 67.5kg x7

Standing calf raise (hammer strength)

Working set

• 200kg x 8
• 200kg x 6

Seated calf raise

Working

• 110kg x9
• 110kg x 7

Realised with the extra volume already I'll need intra carbs on leg days at least

View attachment 212788

Pumped to the shit house

Intra Carbs are the way to go bro ️

 

[Kopite67]

Today's sesh..


Leg extension

Feeder

• 47kg x10
• 89.5kg x 10

Working sets

• 131kg x8
• 131kg x6

Back off

• 89.5kg x failure

Single leg leg press (50kg slead) weight listed are in plates

Feeder

• 40kg x 10
• 80kg x 10

Working set

• 115kg x 4
• 55kg x 17

Back off set

• 60kg x10

Pendulum squat

Working

• 120kg x11
• 120kg x 9

Single leg ham curl

Feeders

• 20kg x10
• 32.5kg x10

Working set

• 37.5kg x9
• 37.5kg x 7

Back off set

• 22.5kg x 17

DB stiff legged deadlift

Feeder

• 30kg x10

Working set

• 67.5kg x9
• 67.5kg x7

Standing calf raise (hammer strength)

Working set

• 200kg x 8
• 200kg x 6

Seated calf raise

Working

• 110kg x9
• 110kg x 7

Realised with the extra volume already I'll need intra carbs on leg days at least

View attachment 212788

Pumped to the shit house

Great session brother. Ton of weight, ton of volume. Pumped up nicely