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I've got to get a video of the one arm pull Downs I haven't seen that in a while
Veteran Log 2024 Para Pharma Testosterone Primobolan Equipoise Tbol Contest Prep Log
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That is definitely the goal heading in this recompmore cardio? nice will tighten you up
To be fair i posted an update here few weeks ago and no one responded to it
Its my favorite team brother
Trying my best one day at a time
I love doing them, i even lean back slightly and add a slight twist and really pull down from the elbow as low as i can go with them, and on the way up i do a slow full stretch, i get a great pump from these, i will see it i can get a video for you sometime when i do them.
Its about the only thing going for me are the Italian genetics, i hope one day they carry me very far on the stage.
That is my weakest link brother, i hope with doing belt squats alot and focusing on RDL it will in time make vast improvements, my upper body has always grown much faster than my lower body, either way we make the best of it and try to build something great.
I hope with this recomp i got coming up and then going into a hard cut that v shape will pop like crazy
the majority of my results have come from para pharma and just think its been on low dose milder compounds, imagine when I get my hands on a little more advanced cycles. I cant wait for my next touchdown from para pharma as well, para pharma just works and works extremely well at that, my photos are proof if you look from 2023 to current day 2024 night and day difference .
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I'm an open supporter of para pharma, clean gear, used them for years. @Noah Wixx
I cant wait for my next touchdown from para pharma as well, para pharma just works and works extremely well at that, my photos are proof if you look from 2023 to current day 2024 night and day difference .
I didnt like the high mg/ml stuff, would not suggest it, but normal mg/ml like 200-250mgs is the best for testosterone (used test mainly).
I feel especially with men's physique if i didnt train forearms it would make my body look imbalanced, i have bigger biceps, if i went into a show having really small forearms, it would create a situation in which judges would dock me points, as overall upper body is judged, im trying to create a good balance between bicep and forearm ratios, my logical could be off with that, my mindset believes it could be a con if i didnt train them, plus having stronger forearms has helped me alot when i go heavier with different movements.
I absolutely love para pharma
Wednesday Nov 6 2024
@ugfreak
Push day focused on lower weight and slowing down the reps and really squeezing the muscles hard and creating a good pump.
Incase i haven't posted my current stats and goals in a while here they are.
Push/Pull/Leg split preformed 3 days a week cardio 45 minutes on Push & Pull day, 15 minutes on leg day.
Rep range on all movements bedsides AB work those reps vary.
1x15 ( warm up )
2x10 or 2x12 ( working sets )
Recovery time 4 days a week.
Future goal aspiring amateur men's physique competitor
Future goal/year for starting competition 2026
primary goal at the end of my current para pharma cycle preform a successful recomp.
Ive done so well with ugfreak and on para pharma from 2023 into 2024, maybe they will be gracious enough to help me out once again with a recomp cycle, you never know what is in the cards for the future, undoubtedly ive put in the sweat equity even changed gyms and have worked harder than i ever have before and pushed myself to the breaking points, para pharma and ugfreak have pushed me past every single barrier that has stood in my way, i am thankful, humble and grateful for ugfreak and para pharma accompanying me on my jounery towards the stage with men's physique and all the help and support with always having my back every step of the way, truly appreciate them more than words can describe.
Ugfreak and para took a chance on me in 2023 and it was my hope I didn't let them or myself down, i accomplished that and then some by coming through for myself and for them, which is something i am very proud of doing.
Current weight 221.0 lbs
Height 5'11
I posted my current meal prep and daily diet, this will be changing from 90/10 beef into chicken as they had a huge sale on chicken thighs, so i did what any bodybuilder would do... i cleaned out the enitre shelf and bought 22 packs lol.
I couldn't pass the deal up $1.99 a pack no brainer to stock pile that protein up.
Current meal prep and full day of eating looks like this.
4pm meal 1
6pm meal 2
8pm meal 3
10pm meal 4
Protein shake between meal 2 & 3
Protein bar in between meal 3 & 4
90/10 beef/rice/broccoli (4 meals)
1 whole avocado
1/4 cup whole walnuts
1 quest Protein bar
1 protein shake.
3,060 Calories
256.8g Protein
138.36g Fat
37.6g Fiber
224.1g Carbs
9.9g Sugar
BentOvr Cable Chest Flys
1x15@50lbs
1x12@60lbs
1x12@70lbs
Seated Pec Deck
1x15@120lbs
1x12@130lbs
1x12@140lbs
Seated Incline Chest Press Machine
1x15@120lbs
1x12@130lbs
1x12@140lbs
Weighted Dips
2x10@bodyweight (221lbs+25lb chain)
1x15@bodyweight (221lbs+15lb chain)
Dumbell Pull-Over
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x12@35lbs
Tricep V-Grip Pressdown
1x15@80lbs
2x12@100lbs
Rope Push-Down
1x15@100lbs
2x12@90lbs
Reverse Cable Push-Down
1x15@80lbs
2X12@100lbs
Tricep Cable Extension
1x15@80lbs
2x12@100lbs
Ab Roller Wheel
3x12@bodyweight
Laying Leg Rasie
3x12@bodyweight
Hanging Leg Raises
3x12@bodyweight
Foaming rolling after (10 minutes) for my entire back.
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Distance 2.09 miles
Incline 4.5
Speed 2.8
Calories Burned 260
@ugfreak
Push day focused on lower weight and slowing down the reps and really squeezing the muscles hard and creating a good pump.
Incase i haven't posted my current stats and goals in a while here they are.
Push/Pull/Leg split preformed 3 days a week cardio 45 minutes on Push & Pull day, 15 minutes on leg day.
Rep range on all movements bedsides AB work those reps vary.
1x15 ( warm up )
2x10 or 2x12 ( working sets )
Recovery time 4 days a week.
Future goal aspiring amateur men's physique competitor
Future goal/year for starting competition 2026
primary goal at the end of my current para pharma cycle preform a successful recomp.
Ive done so well with ugfreak and on para pharma from 2023 into 2024, maybe they will be gracious enough to help me out once again with a recomp cycle, you never know what is in the cards for the future, undoubtedly ive put in the sweat equity even changed gyms and have worked harder than i ever have before and pushed myself to the breaking points, para pharma and ugfreak have pushed me past every single barrier that has stood in my way, i am thankful, humble and grateful for ugfreak and para pharma accompanying me on my jounery towards the stage with men's physique and all the help and support with always having my back every step of the way, truly appreciate them more than words can describe.
Ugfreak and para took a chance on me in 2023 and it was my hope I didn't let them or myself down, i accomplished that and then some by coming through for myself and for them, which is something i am very proud of doing.
Current weight 221.0 lbs
Height 5'11
I posted my current meal prep and daily diet, this will be changing from 90/10 beef into chicken as they had a huge sale on chicken thighs, so i did what any bodybuilder would do... i cleaned out the enitre shelf and bought 22 packs lol.
I couldn't pass the deal up $1.99 a pack no brainer to stock pile that protein up.
Current meal prep and full day of eating looks like this.
4pm meal 1
6pm meal 2
8pm meal 3
10pm meal 4
Protein shake between meal 2 & 3
Protein bar in between meal 3 & 4
90/10 beef/rice/broccoli (4 meals)
1 whole avocado
1/4 cup whole walnuts
1 quest Protein bar
1 protein shake.
3,060 Calories
256.8g Protein
138.36g Fat
37.6g Fiber
224.1g Carbs
9.9g Sugar
BentOvr Cable Chest Flys
1x15@50lbs
1x12@60lbs
1x12@70lbs
Seated Pec Deck
1x15@120lbs
1x12@130lbs
1x12@140lbs
Seated Incline Chest Press Machine
1x15@120lbs
1x12@130lbs
1x12@140lbs
Weighted Dips
2x10@bodyweight (221lbs+25lb chain)
1x15@bodyweight (221lbs+15lb chain)
Dumbell Pull-Over
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x12@35lbs
Tricep V-Grip Pressdown
1x15@80lbs
2x12@100lbs
Rope Push-Down
1x15@100lbs
2x12@90lbs
Reverse Cable Push-Down
1x15@80lbs
2X12@100lbs
Tricep Cable Extension
1x15@80lbs
2x12@100lbs
Ab Roller Wheel
3x12@bodyweight
Laying Leg Rasie
3x12@bodyweight
Hanging Leg Raises
3x12@bodyweight
Foaming rolling after (10 minutes) for my entire back.
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Distance 2.09 miles
Incline 4.5
Speed 2.8
Calories Burned 260
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Curious why your first meal is so late in the day ? Any reason for that ?
Work schedule and i dont like to eat right away in the am or afternoon, i dont get hungry till later, so i choose toneat later in the day typically on my break at work, i feel weighted down if i eat to early in tje day or sluggish, not a fan of it honestly.
@Noah Wixx awesome work right here!
So you follow a 16-8 daily fast?
Never really calculated it like that brother, it would seem it plays out that way with my window and work, plus training and the times i can fit everything in.
Since your recomping it's probably not too bad but if you're concerned about muscle gain I would highly suggest avoiding it and adding in a protein shake several times or at least take BCAA and glutamine.
I do too! I've used their gear for my last couple cycles and it's def top notch!! @ugfreak is awesome as well. Great customer service!!!
Looking killer brother
The coach has an entire plan for different stages we enter into, on training days he has me switching it up and doing one protein shake and 4 walnuts an hour before i train, forgot to mention that, non training day eating routine is as u posted it above.
Yeah gentz para gear and ugfreak service and kindness is always highly valued and much appreciated, have you notice this about para even day one injecting it you feel it hit like a train, you can feel the shift happen, atleast i can.
I don't feel day 1 but you can tell it's high quality. The NPP does hit hard. All of their orals are great too.
Products are the same whether domestic or international.
I've had domestic orals from other labs that are clearly different and not as good.
Para is my go to for the foreseeable future.
Products are the same whether domestic or international.
I've had domestic orals from other labs that are clearly different and not as good.
Para is my go to for the foreseeable future.
Yeah i agree its very potent and high quality in my experience, ive been trying to tell people with all my para logs how damn good it really is, im happy you agree and see the difference and feel the difference just like i do when u use it, how awesome is it to have ugfreak as a source with access to products like they carry.
Tuesday November 12 2024
@ugfreak
Pull day today decided i would utilize rack pulls again as i havent done them in a while, really enjoyed switching it up a bit on this one.
Racks had been used up for a while so that is why we went smith machine today for the beginning of the workout.
Macro break down for each individual meal as my coach has changed it up heading into a recomp in the near future, probably around thanksgiving or shortly after, just want to see how i respond with the caloric switch.
After recomp we are heading into a hard cut and mock prep just to see how i could possibly look on stage, coach has it all mapped out, i just need to execute the rest.
4 meals Chicken/Rice/Broccoli
Calories (700 )
Fat ( 19.5g )
Protein 94g
Carbs (34g)
Fiber (6g )
Sugar (1g)
Avocado ( 50g )
Calories ( 80 )
Fat ( 7.2g )
Protein ( 1g )
Carbs ( 4.25g )
Fiber ( 3.35g )
Sugar ( 0.35g )
Whole Walnuts ( 1/4 Cup)
Calories (200)
Fat (19g )
Protein ( 5g)
Carbs (4g)
Fiber (2g )
Sugar (1g)
Protein Shake (1 scoop )
Calories (150)
Fat ( 3.5g )
Protein ( 25g)
Carbs (8g)
Fiber 2g )
Sugar (1g)
Total Calories ( 3,230 )
Total Fat (108g )
Total Protein ( 407g )
Total Carbs ( 168g )
Total Fiber ( 27.35g )
Total Sugar ( 7.35g )
Pull Day
Smith Machine Rack-Pull
1x15@205lbs
1x12@255lbs
1x12@315lbs
Smith Machine BentOvr Row
1x15@205lbs
1x12@255lbs
1x10@265lbs
One Arm Cable Pull-Down
1x15@150lbs
2X12@100lbs
Rear Delt Machine ( one arm at a time )
1x15@170lbs
2x12@180lbs
Cable Face Pulls ( kneeling leaning back )
1x15@100lbs
2x12@120lbs
Barbell Shrugs
1x15@205lbs
2x12@255lbs
Standing Ez-Bar Curl
2x10@125lbs
1x15@75lbs
25lb Plate Curls ( squee as hard as i can )
1x15@25lbs
2x12@25lbs
Hammer Curls
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x12@35lbs
Cable Wrist Curls( hard squeeze each rep)
1x15@60lbs
1x12@70lbs
1x12@80lbs
Cable Wrist Flexion
1x15@20lbs
2x12@25lbs
Single Hand Cable Wrist Flexion
1x15@20lbs
2x12@20lbs
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Incline 2.0
Speed 3.0
Miles 2.24
Calories Burned 220
@ugfreak
Pull day today decided i would utilize rack pulls again as i havent done them in a while, really enjoyed switching it up a bit on this one.
Racks had been used up for a while so that is why we went smith machine today for the beginning of the workout.
Macro break down for each individual meal as my coach has changed it up heading into a recomp in the near future, probably around thanksgiving or shortly after, just want to see how i respond with the caloric switch.
After recomp we are heading into a hard cut and mock prep just to see how i could possibly look on stage, coach has it all mapped out, i just need to execute the rest.
4 meals Chicken/Rice/Broccoli
Calories (700 )
Fat ( 19.5g )
Protein 94g
Carbs (34g)
Fiber (6g )
Sugar (1g)
Avocado ( 50g )
Calories ( 80 )
Fat ( 7.2g )
Protein ( 1g )
Carbs ( 4.25g )
Fiber ( 3.35g )
Sugar ( 0.35g )
Whole Walnuts ( 1/4 Cup)
Calories (200)
Fat (19g )
Protein ( 5g)
Carbs (4g)
Fiber (2g )
Sugar (1g)
Protein Shake (1 scoop )
Calories (150)
Fat ( 3.5g )
Protein ( 25g)
Carbs (8g)
Fiber 2g )
Sugar (1g)
Total Calories ( 3,230 )
Total Fat (108g )
Total Protein ( 407g )
Total Carbs ( 168g )
Total Fiber ( 27.35g )
Total Sugar ( 7.35g )
Pull Day
Smith Machine Rack-Pull
1x15@205lbs
1x12@255lbs
1x12@315lbs
Smith Machine BentOvr Row
1x15@205lbs
1x12@255lbs
1x10@265lbs
One Arm Cable Pull-Down
1x15@150lbs
2X12@100lbs
Rear Delt Machine ( one arm at a time )
1x15@170lbs
2x12@180lbs
Cable Face Pulls ( kneeling leaning back )
1x15@100lbs
2x12@120lbs
Barbell Shrugs
1x15@205lbs
2x12@255lbs
Standing Ez-Bar Curl
2x10@125lbs
1x15@75lbs
25lb Plate Curls ( squee as hard as i can )
1x15@25lbs
2x12@25lbs
Hammer Curls
1x15@25lbs
1x12@30lbs
1x12@35lbs
Cable Wrist Curls( hard squeeze each rep)
1x15@60lbs
1x12@70lbs
1x12@80lbs
Cable Wrist Flexion
1x15@20lbs
2x12@25lbs
Single Hand Cable Wrist Flexion
1x15@20lbs
2x12@20lbs
Cardio
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Incline 2.0
Speed 3.0
Miles 2.24
Calories Burned 220
Man, I’m so far behind on this log! Hope you are doing well brother!! It’s been non stop here. Seems like I catch up. Should be able to come January. My daughter is getting married in December. And with all the stuff we’ve had going on and all of the holidays… I’m just way behind.
Dont worry about the time brother or how much you check in on my log, even if its just once and a while i appreciate you and the check in with me and my log.
That is exciting news brother! Congratulations
yes this time of year is insanity for being busy and behind, completely get it brother Overall im doing great since switching gyms anf utilizing more racks and gree weights and switching up my movements, overall progress has been very steady.
I hope the same is happening for you brother
@Cronus402 congratulations on your girl getting married
EVO family supportNoah im watching his log
but please update yours
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-proviron-bulk-cycle-log.100043/
Thursday December 5 2024
@ugfreak
I hope everyone is doing well and in good health for the holiday season, i wanted to start out by saying i took a few weeks off with a deload, i also had to focus on getting my mind right.
My motivation and energy was lacking alot last few weeks, which leads me into my next order of business. I will be trying to run bloods next week monday or tuesday, it all depends on appointment availability.
Only thing is im not happy about shelling out over 400 dollars to lab corp for it lol.
Ive been working on getting out of this mental rut i find myself in. I am two days back into the gym, trying to refocus.
I am nearly finished with my para pharma cycle, not many injections left at this point.
Pull Day
T-Bar Row (utilizing pad/bar attachment)
1x15@135lbs
1x10@160lbs
1x10@180lbs
BentOvr Row
1x15@225lbs
2x10@225lbs
Rack Pulls
1x15@175lbs
2x10@175lbs
Lat Pull-Down
1x15@100lbs
1x10@120lbs
1x10@140lbs
Rear Delt Machine
1x15@110lbs
1x10@120lbs
1x10@130lbs
Shoulder Shurgs
1x15@225lbs
2x10@225lbs
Cable Curl
1x15@120lbs
2x10@120lbs
Reverse Cable Curl
1x15@50lbs
2x10@50lbs
Single Arm Cable Curl
1x15@30lbs
2x10@40lbs
Cable Wrist Curl
1x15@40lbs
2x10@50lbs
Wrist flexion
1x15@40lbs
2x10@40lbs
Cardio ( preformed as a warm-up)
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Incline 3.0
Speed 3.2
Miles 2.44
Calories Burned 260
@ugfreak
I hope everyone is doing well and in good health for the holiday season, i wanted to start out by saying i took a few weeks off with a deload, i also had to focus on getting my mind right.
My motivation and energy was lacking alot last few weeks, which leads me into my next order of business. I will be trying to run bloods next week monday or tuesday, it all depends on appointment availability.
Only thing is im not happy about shelling out over 400 dollars to lab corp for it lol.
Ive been working on getting out of this mental rut i find myself in. I am two days back into the gym, trying to refocus.
I am nearly finished with my para pharma cycle, not many injections left at this point.
Pull Day
T-Bar Row (utilizing pad/bar attachment)
1x15@135lbs
1x10@160lbs
1x10@180lbs
BentOvr Row
1x15@225lbs
2x10@225lbs
Rack Pulls
1x15@175lbs
2x10@175lbs
Lat Pull-Down
1x15@100lbs
1x10@120lbs
1x10@140lbs
Rear Delt Machine
1x15@110lbs
1x10@120lbs
1x10@130lbs
Shoulder Shurgs
1x15@225lbs
2x10@225lbs
Cable Curl
1x15@120lbs
2x10@120lbs
Reverse Cable Curl
1x15@50lbs
2x10@50lbs
Single Arm Cable Curl
1x15@30lbs
2x10@40lbs
Cable Wrist Curl
1x15@40lbs
2x10@50lbs
Wrist flexion
1x15@40lbs
2x10@40lbs
Cardio ( preformed as a warm-up)
Treadmill
Duration 45 minutes
Incline 3.0
Speed 3.2
Miles 2.44
Calories Burned 260
Keep crushing it to the end bro! We all have these days.. nothing wrong with a bit of a deload. Bet it feels good to be back. I love that first sore recovery back. You are killing it my dude. Keep your head up and finish strong.
I appreciate the motivation and kind words brother, this time around seems to be a bit harder than the first time, its been a bit of a struggle towards the end of the cycle.
Increase the test and ai. Maybe you’re just a little out of whack with your bloods.
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Looking back at your cycle, what gear you on now? are you still using testosterone and primobolan? @Noah Wixx
Yeah 1:1 ratio 300/300 600 a week total i have a few injections left before cycle is officially over.
Forgot to say test and primo yes
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Check back at the discussion with @AE1079 and @Eddie Haskell they are talking about estradiol being low with primobolan use long term.
I wrote an article on this as well. I was checking your log back 70 pages you've been on primobolan at this dose for too long from the looks of it. I would cycle off at this point of time.
This cycle wasn't my best showing brother i will be upfront about that, i screwed up at the start by ordering testosterone in 400mg/ml had to reorder and switch it back down into the 250mg/ml, at one point i injected into my delt like ive done 100s of times before. Somehow it got infected, had to cycle off for a brief time let the antibiotics run its course, originally was running eq with my cycle, dropped that, added in tbol for 5 weeks instead, so i ended up running testosterone at 300mg a week Primo at 300mg a week and 10mg of tbol a week, lots didnt go right for me this time around and all of it was my fault, wether it was the high concentrations with a backwards logic on less is better, pinning to much gear into a small muscle learned the hard way on that, and bow possibilities of crashed E2, not alot worked right in my favor, at the end of the day i learned valuable lessons to not repeat in the future, and i can educate others based on my experiences.
Im in a tough spot here because im supposed to be runnia bridge here very shortly of test,npp,mast,proviron but if e2 is crashed mast even at 100mg might not be wise, i dont know need to run bloods see what is going on, all i know is for 3 weeks + my mental health has been suffering pretty badly, i just keep trying to push through it and not quit to reach my goals, i am 100% struggling and im ok to admit that.
Maybe you should change up your training of your getting frustrated? Cut back on volume or increase volume not sure what style you're doing now. I do know that for me a change is sometimes the best thing to get out of a mental rut.
Yeah its been pretty bad for me for a few weeks now and i cant seem to shake it engery wise and mood wise, plus trying to stay dialed in has been more difficult for me than it ever has.
Just doing my normal 3 days a week push pull legs.
For all exercises this is my breakdown
1x15
2x10-12
30 minutes of cardio 3 days a week.
Man before my doc started me on trt, she put me on an AI. We ended up crashing my estrogen and I was all messed up. A ex gf lost a son in a car accident and was struggling with that as he was my daughter’s age and I cared about him. But it was hard to deal with life and have the low Estrogen. What’s keeping you from going and getting bloods right now?
The time change and winter settling in has been hard on us here. It’s been harder to get out of bed and get moving. Lots going on this time of year.
Maybe it's time to train with the powerlifters and get strong AF?
My next cycle I want to go big on primo. 500-700mg per week or more if its warranted. I want to go hi anabolics so I don't gain weight and to keep strain off the body.Mmmmm primo!! I can’t wait to try that someday.
Well i have them scheduled for February 28th only time i can get in, fully covered by insurance, if i go to lab corp i have to pay 500 out of pocket and i could get in anytime i wanted, with xmas and bills and daily living expenses im like fuck do i really want to spend 500 dollars on bloodwork or do i wait and push it back, coach wants it done asap because we need to see where i am at marker wise after my current cycle since its basically almost over.
Yeah i live in a location that gets really cold during winter so it adds a level of stress and depression lack of sun as well.
Im sorry that happened to both of you brother my condolences
Ive thought about it because from a bodybuilding standpoint i am decently strong on low mg cycles makes me wounder sometimes.
Primo is my favorite just from a safety stand point and overall what it has done for me.Mmmmm primo!! I can’t wait to try that someday.
Hang in there. Don’t always need to follow a routine to the T! I agrée maybe less volume. You’re a big volume guy. Cut out extra accessories maybe see what your 1 rep max is on you r compound exercises! That could be fun!! Might give you some inspiration. U hit some spotters at your gym ask what they do In Times like this. I’m confident you’ll get through this! You have a big community to help you.
Do you have one of the lights you can put in next to u daily it’s got the spectrum of light you need to help mood. Seasonal affective disorder. It might help some. My step mom. Had issues when they moved to SE Alaska days are shorter in winter. Really helped her. I think those are cheaper to get a personal size these days. While I wait for Feb 28th. Too bad money doesn’t grow on trees right?
Yeah I hear that man. I’m supposed to get mine every 4 months and my insurance hasn’t changed yet I’m all of the sudden getting charged every time. I have to figure that out
Absolutely!
Thanks my dude. It’s a sad thing for sure but it doesn’t help when your hormones are all fkd upIm sorry that happened to both of you brother my condolences
Many times TRT doctors don’t know much at all
I was talking to @AE1079 the other day and we saw here in the family both estrogen crashes and spikes from primbolan
Crashing estrogen is terrible for mood
But high estrogen is even worse
So it’s a balancing act
I would use a credit card and spend the cash, worth it for your health man
Honestly, managing my estrogen is one of the most challenging things about TRT and cycling. I can really tell when it’s too high if my sex drive is low. And for me, I found that seems to be the easiest way for me to know if I need to take an extra .5 MG of anastrozole. But that’s just me. Last bloods, my estrogen was perfect so I was happy about that. But it is very challenging to know between bloodwork.
I needed that laugh right now, i truly must say thank you for making me laugh, been shitty for me for weeks mentally, i needed the supportDo it Noah!!!!i always say why have big ass muscles if they ain’t strong?
yeah, the people at my gym get confused when i do power building stages mainly because i BB, eo when they see what i lift when i apply myself and go for broke, they question why i do BB lol.
Levelling doses out will help, your next cycle looks like what?
U make a vaild point i cant even argue that one you are correct.I would use a credit card and spend the cash, worth it for your health man
I put money on it my estrogen is probably low, ive run primobolan for my last two cycles my body is probably just telling me i need a break from gear possibly and bloods need done, could be my body might need some off time to recover and nust drop into a trt dose of 100-125mg a week, not sure just thoughts i have, before bloods that will tell the full storyline.
Don’t want to hijack Noah’s thread. But I’m looking to put one together here soon. Another bulk. Likely run Nandrolone, TestC, dbol, maybe add Proviron, and for sure an ai. Speaking of my log… I need to go update. Haha
So we know how to get estrogen down, but what’s the best way to get it up??
The science says it’s directly proportional to testosterone due to the body naturally converting test into estrogen. So if you reduce any ai and increase your testosterone dose, shouldn’t your estrogen increase?
Hope some vets can chime in on this.
I don’t think there is a “need break from gear” moment with your low dose cycles, but, yes, I think you should be switching compounds and investing into blood work.
I don’t understand, Why is it $500 to test estrogen? You can test test/estrogen for about $100-150.
Getting estrogen up is easy, pin testosterone no Ai no serm no primo no masteron.
Why dbol? How lean are you? % bodyfat now
That’s what I thought.Getting estrogen up is easy, pin testosterone no Ai no serm no primo no masteron.
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I would use a credit card and spend the cash, worth it for your health man
@Noah Wixx use a credit card, do the test now, just limit the testing to Estrogen Prolactin and Testosterone, 3 things you need to test. Other parts of the bloods can wait. I agree with @Eddie Haskell
Coach wants all bloods needed so that is the extra cost brother, with labcorp tests are separate.
Prolactin is its own test
Testosterone complete is its own test
Complete cbc is its own test
Estradiol is its own test
Grand total 477 dollars.
If i only test those 3 things it would be super cheap could probably toss in a prolactin test, i figure the cbc would be the most important test with me running gear panting bigger picture
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Don't waste time now, book the test for Monday and do it, it's worth the money. I just looked through about 50 pages, you for sure might have low-estrogen.
It feels like i could that was my best guess or possibility of organ straining which is leading into me feeling tired or brunt out, wont jump to any conclusion until i see bloodwork
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You have liver pains? or lower back pains? Those would be something you'd feel.
Just a slight strain feeling on the front of the body, lower part righthand side, nothing crazy but just feels a nit strainedz hard to explain, slightest of aches, not a muscle ache, but a small nagging ache here and there.
Probably related to your low estrogen, you're too dry. Or right side is liver, liver or estrogen if I had to guess.
Yeah that's my beat guess as well, im booking and appointment for labcorp tomorrow and going to try and get in this Monday Tuesday or at the latest hopefully friday if they have openings, before i run my bridge cycle i got to make sure everything is good to go, because if i see flags, im gonna hold off till its sorted out.
Im gonna run
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Complete Blood Count
Free Test
Total Test
Estradiol
Shbg
I dont think im missing anything i was gonna run a ldl/hdl test, coach said it wasn't needed at this time, which is fine. I have covered insurance complete bloodwork coming up on February 28 as well, so bloods will be done fully twice pretty close in time to one another.
Why do you need your free testosterone?
And is the metabolic panel liver? I don’t see it there.
That is the usable testosterone and im curious what my numbers will be on 300mg of test, also it is included in the testosterone test.
That is how they get u, i can run just a total testosterone test but that is all it will test.
If i get the complete testosterone test, it tests, total test, free test and shbg in one test.
Thats the issue with independent lab companies they include or exclude certain tests so u have to make sure u pick the right ones
The complete metabolic panel tests Alt and Ast so liver is covered. They do hage and independent liver test i think i could order.
I figured my coach to keep my healthy would want as much usable information as possible ?
The comprehensive metabolic panel tests all of this, which is all very needed and useful imo.
tests, measuring: glucose, calcium, sodium, potassium, chloride, carbon dioxide, albumin, total protein, blood urea nitrogen (BUN), creatinine, alkaline phosphatase (ALP), alanine aminotransferase (ALT), aspartate aminotransferase (AST), and total bilirubin; essentially assessing blood sugar, electrolytes, liver function, and kidney function.
I was under the impression you’re on a budget, and free testosterone will tell you very little in your case
Its either total testosterone test or solo testosterone test, the full testosterone test that includes shbg, the solo testosterone test doesnt include shbg, correct i am on a budget, all those tests total is 286 dollars
In that case with shbg it’s worth it.
Yeah unfortunately lesser or two evils here, since the bridge upcoming has proviron in it, be interesting to compare shbg now, vs with proviron with February bloods.In that case with shbg it’s worth it.
did you book your bloodwork?
wondering the cost.
Yeah i did i also found a 10% off coupon for labcorp, original total was 311 dollars got it for 260 dollars, every test i needed to aquire and run, is booked for Monday, December 23rd
Don’t know about the dryness mr. Would but true liver on the right side. You’re right cmp covers all the labs well not test estrogen stuff. But gives a good look. So hard on a budget just to get some Insight that’s useful will be of help. I’ll pray for the best Noah!
I always appreciate the prayer's and thoughtfulness it helps when things seem darker than usual, this last month or so, something major is off, my whole personality has flipped, from irritation, being mad over stupid little things, moldy, just not who i know i am, what i am right now isn't who i want to be, before anything else, blood work, i need to know what has caused the my regression from a mood stand point, typically im motivated happy to help, involved and im different right now, so hopefully we can pinpoint the issue fix it and i can be my old self again and get dialed back, i think i accidentally crashed my estrogen with some mild organ strain sprinkled ontop, judt been rough go, either way we push on and get through it, learn from it, fix it and teach others along the way.Don’t know about the dryness mr. Would but true liver on the right side. You’re right cmp covers all the labs well not test estrogen stuff. But gives a good look. So hard on a budget just to get some Insight that’s useful will be of help. I’ll pray for the best Noah!
It’s good you recognize that you feel off. Anxiety can really screw with people. And messing with hormones probably don’t help either. They affect mood for sure. So it’s good that you are trying to keep your PEDs and such to minimal doses as a rule. Cuz this shot can mess with peeps who are sensitive to hormonal changes. Hopeful you find answers for your own peace of mind my friend. But if you don’t please stay strong and don’t get discouraged don’t let it rule you! You’ll pull though it.
I will forever be a supportive person of the most minimalistic effective doses with my protocols, i grow just fine on small amounts, i dont believe in the whole u need x amount or its a waste, look how far ive grown on just two primo and test cycles in one year never went above 700mg, high doses arent for me tried it didnt like it, messed me up more than helped me out, i went backwards wasting time that way.It’s good you recognize that you feel off. Anxiety can really screw with people. And messing with hormones probably don’t help either. They affect mood for sure. So it’s good that you are trying to keep your PEDs and such to minimal doses as a rule. Cuz this shot can mess with peeps who are sensitive to hormonal changes. Hopeful you find answers for your own peace of mind my friend. But if you don’t please stay strong and don’t get discouraged don’t let it rule you! You’ll pull though it.
Ive always been very much aware of how powerful these drugs are and what it can do to a person and by the time u see it, its already to late, so for me if i can get luke this on low doses and feel off, id be in a horrible position with high doses i cant even imagine.
I will definitely figure it out and hopefully come back better and on the right track
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