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Veteran Log Bulking Cycle Journal

Also I prepared this for my next bulk. I got 2 more weeks on deca and will run trt+reta 1mg a week for 6-8 weeks then ima bulk with test 600mg / EQ 400mg a week for 20 weeks! @BeMe @LevButlerov should I start a new thread on both reta cycle and eq cycle soon?
You can start a new thread as you're bulking, when does this start? :D @Pat7x
 
Arms day, I tried added JM press for the first time of my life, holyfk it’s a brutal movement
strong arm day :D power pumps
 
Decided to eat clean again lol.
Beef larb is a Thai dish cooked with water lime juice fish sauce shallots and herbs no oil use, on the side tons of sticky rice! Macros friendly meal
@Pat7x Meals look good........
 
18th week, 2 more weeks to go for this bulk.
I switched things up a little bit today from starting with iso-leteral incline press, I started the day with incline barbell press and finished the upper chest off with iso-lateral incline press. Other movements stayed the same! Feels so pumped today
 

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18th week, 2 more weeks to go for this bulk.
I switched things up a little bit today from starting with iso-leteral incline press, I started the day with incline barbell press and finished the upper chest off with iso-lateral incline press. Other movements stayed the same! Feels so pumped today
2 more weeks lets press it hard :D
 
18th week, 2 more weeks to go for this bulk.
I switched things up a little bit today from starting with iso-leteral incline press, I started the day with incline barbell press and finished the upper chest off with iso-lateral incline press. Other movements stayed the same! Feels so pumped today
Nice update bro 🩵
 
Tuesday workout 49 minutes, I feel a little tired today.
 

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Food porn post workout
Bros, you are a taco villain. Looking really good. I could eat that every day. We got some good Mexican food down here in South Cali but sometimes I go across the border. @Pat7x
 
Incline dumbbell press 90s improved
Last week 3x10,8,6
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+ 2 reps!
 

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Armsday
Im craving Jamaican curry goat, if i go i will upload the food pic later
 

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Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated
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I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

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This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

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The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

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Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

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This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Great update brother. You have done an amazing job transforming yourself and your life. Can't wait to see the next step in your journey bro 🩵
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

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This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
amazing difference :D @Pat7x in a few years its night and day! you look amazing, EVO family support! and @PopPopPoppie thank you for the support!


@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

View attachment 179613

This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Oh wow man, massive respect to u, u look like a totally different person!!! Props to u and the wife man
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

View attachment 179613

This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Bro I had no idea about these before and afters this is an amazing transformation!
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

View attachment 179613

This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Big change man, and I really respect you calling out your wife, I could not do what I do without mine she supports me in a million ways. We are blessed man
 
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

View attachment 179613

This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Amazing transformation bro. You dropped a ton of weight then built a ton of muscle in its place. Great work!

That hanya mask on your chest is fukn sick bro. Can't see your other stuff clearly but it looks great too.
 
Incline dumbbell press 90s improved
Last week 3x10,8,6
This week 3x10,9,7
+ 2 reps!

Armsday
Im craving Jamaican curry goat, if i go i will upload the food pic later

Nice workouts mate! 90lb db's on incline press is impressive! Nice reps gains from the previous week!
Looking back from where i’m coming from help me stay positive about myself a lot.
This first pic was me in September 2023 I was obese and always unmotivated View attachment 179612

I decided to change myself, and this is a photo from January 2025.I dropped a lot of weight, from 220lbs to 166lbs and then I felt small, I was on carnivore diet and I can’t lose my love handles so I decided to bulk up.

View attachment 179613

This photo is from November 2025 where I was on mid bulk with this current log. I feels much more confident and strong.

View attachment 179614

The last picture is me with shirt on yesterday.
I feel like it is a long journey and I have to remind myself that I just start lifting on January 2023, so it’s only been 3 years. My goal is to become a mass monster and I hope I can do more for myself.

View attachment 179615


Thank you for all the support from all EVO family and especially my beloved wife @PopPopPoppie
Awesome progress mate!
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
So very brave to put this out there. This is very rough indeed brother.
I know a bit about this, had it happen 20 years ago. Take it day by day, go and train, hard. Lose yourself for a few minutes in this each day for a while. Now you need in mentally more than physically. Things will get better, they really do, even though you cant see that now. Evo love to you brother 🩵
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
sorry to hear this :( @Pat7x no matter what you can be mean or whatever but cheating on you is wrong.
have you spoken to her about this?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc
 
sorry to hear this :( @Pat7x no matter what you can be mean or whatever but cheating on you is wrong.
have you spoken to her about this?

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc
Yes for 3 days straight, It’s just she made me a villain in her head that I will rejected all her fantasy on kinky stuffs. Because I guess I used to turned her down without actually listening before. That’s why she needed to fullfill her needs to the easiest route, via online, where people not gonna judge her because they are into the same shit. I just hope that her videos not leaking out and got her fired from her job because she showed everything including her face. And after i caught her with those discord dms, I reacted calmly, no anger. That’s why she thinks she was wrong about me and can actually talk to me about her needs now because i’m not the same guy on tren who was furious on anything that i don’t like to hear. If the kink stuffs is the thing she like, i don’t wanna take it away from her life, so we decided to make our own discord server just for us to exchanges stuffs in there to fullfill her needs. @LevButlerov kinda long thank you for reading
 
So very brave to put this out there. This is very rough indeed brother.
I know a bit about this, had it happen 20 years ago. Take it day by day, go and train, hard. Lose yourself for a few minutes in this each day for a while. Now you need in mentally more than physically. Things will get better, they really do, even though you cant see that now. Evo love to you brother 🩵
Thank you for reading and understanding bro… it’s rough. But this is not the first time i got cheated on. My ex physically cheated on me and that’s the dealbreaker, this one just sexually emotional cheating online, that’s why I don’t care that much but still not right to do to your partner u know? @Kopite67
 
Yes for 3 days straight, It’s just she made me a villain in her head that I will rejected all her fantasy on kinky stuffs. Because I guess I used to turned her down without actually listening before. That’s why she needed to fullfill her needs to the easiest route, via online, where people not gonna judge her because they are into the same shit. I just hope that her videos not leaking out and got her fired from her job because she showed everything including her face. And after i caught her with those discord dms, I reacted calmly, no anger. That’s why she thinks she was wrong about me and can actually talk to me about her needs now because i’m not the same guy on tren who was furious on anything that i don’t like to hear. If the kink stuffs is the thing she like, i don’t wanna take it away from her life, so we decided to make our own discord server just for us to exchanges stuffs in there to fullfill her needs. @LevButlerov kinda long thank you for reading
This is a difficult situation :( sorry
have you talked to her to meet half way about this? @Pat7x
 
This is a difficult situation :( sorry
have you talked to her to meet half way about this? @Pat7x
@LevButlerov The thing is I like what she offers for kink stuffs too and I enjoy it. She never know about that because she afraid to ask me. The half way is I guess we gonna do it together instead of she’s doing it alone and have a potential to share it online again.
 
Thank you for reading and understanding bro… it’s rough. But this is not the first time i got cheated on. My ex physically cheated on me and that’s the dealbreaker, this one just sexually emotional cheating online, that’s why I don’t care that much but still not right to do to your partner u know? @Kopite67
No not right bro. Still hurts like a MF 🩵
 
Still trained, just skipped triceps and not pushing prs today. Felt off and sad.
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Macros so far.. gotta rely on mostly liquid calories to get it in…
 

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that’s rough bro, it’s never ok to do what she did, and there still needs to be more accountability rather than excuses as to why. But I find most women can’t take accountability.
It’s rough and I’m sorry to hear, tren affects people more than they care to admit. People saying I’m on 200-300mg tren a week no sides. I can bs 💯. Maybe no night sweats, insomnia , sexual performance etc . But mentally it does change you, and no one can say it doesn’t. You may just not know it.
I last took tren at 175mg a week and mentally you look back and think would I have thought that or reacted that way without tren previously.

Did she know you were on Tren ?

Although it must be hard and you are taking accountability for your behavior, by being in a relationship her body is for your eyes only and vice versa. Unless it’s an agreement open relationship.

It’s a tough position to be in bro and wish you all the best in getting through it all.

Just please remember. Days can feel like they aren’t worth living at times. But they always get better, when you are at your lowest there’s only one way and that’s up.
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
Fuck mate that's shit sorry about that.

Was going to say about getting counselling until the bit where she kept doing it.

Still trained, just skipped triceps and not pushing prs today. Felt off and sad.
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She promised to stop, she knew i was on tren and bare it through for 4 months straight. That’s when all of her needs on validation stated. She said I treated her like shit make her feels like she’s not good enough so she had to go get her self esteem back from somewhere else. She took accountability of all her actions and never blamed me or gaslight me at all. She very regret it and wish she would never done it and she wish she would talk to me about whatbshe wants but the thought of I will not listen to what she has to say is in her head. At first she did it out of anger and then when things between us starting to get better she couldn’t stop doing it, she had to villainized me in her head just to justify her actions. @waggat @Trenhead3cc
 
She promised to stop, she knew i was on tren and bare it through for 4 months straight. That’s when all of her needs on validation stated. She said I treated her like shit make her feels like she’s not good enough so she had to go get her self esteem back from somewhere else. She took accountability of all her actions and never blamed me or gaslight me at all. She very regret it and wish she would never done it and she wish she would talk to me about whatbshe wants but the thought of I will not listen to what she has to say is in her head. At first she did it out of anger and then when things between us starting to get better she couldn’t stop doing it, she had to villainized me in her head just to justify her actions. @waggat @Trenhead3cc
I mean that sort of makes sense. But I always wonder in situations like this, if she's not happy why not speak up or tell you she's leaving because you're being a cunt? Sounds like counselling might be worth pursuing then?
 
I mean that sort of makes sense. But I always wonder in situations like this, if she's not happy why not speak up or tell you she's leaving because you're being a cunt? Sounds like counselling might be worth pursuing then?
She did spoke to me when it’s too late, she did when she felt like she was walking on eggshells. Then i changed myself right away and stopped tren. But the damages was already done i guess, so she was having thoughts like “oh, so you can change but why now? Blablabla” then resentment kicked in. Then she started it but when things going better she said she refused to accepted that i changed and need a reason in her head to be mad at me so she can justify her actions. After being caught and I was not freak out, she felt so dumb and was wrong all along. She said with the biggest thing in life like this i can stay calm and talk to her respectfully she believes that all demonizing shit about me that she put in her head was shattered into pieces and then she felt guilty and regret for not talking to me. if she had not letting her emotions drove her head and had talk to me about what she wants, she will not have kinks repressed like this. Yeah she afraid I will rejected her kinks.

@waggat for example, she loves mutual masturbation, she brought up to me once long time ago, I shut her down by saying “why? We can just fuck?” Then she felt repressed in her needs and had to do that online instead. (Still not right to do but she said that now she is able to talk to me and I won’t turn her away immediately or shut her off right away and i can tell her about how i feel or if i don’t like it after i try something, she will understand and not looking for it anywhere else again. She just wanted us to communicate) But now after I opened up and tried it after she actually talked to me and i actually listened, I like it too and I think things might happened for a reason like a wake up call by god or else.
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
man i'm sorry for this. i've had this happen to me many times ... its tough man, its the act that hurts the most that they do
 
She did spoke to me when it’s too late, she did when she felt like she was walking on eggshells. Then i changed myself right away and stopped tren. But the damages was already done i guess, so she was having thoughts like “oh, so you can change but why now? Blablabla” then resentment kicked in. Then she started it but when things going better she said she refused to accepted that i changed and need a reason in her head to be mad at me so she can justify her actions. After being caught and I was not freak out, she felt so dumb and was wrong all along. She said with the biggest thing in life like this i can stay calm and talk to her respectfully she believes that all demonizing shit about me that she put in her head was shattered into pieces and then she felt guilty and regret for not talking to me. if she had not letting her emotions drove her head and had talk to me about what she wants, she will not have kinks repressed like this. Yeah she afraid I will rejected her kinks.

@waggat for example, she loves mutual masturbation, she brought up to me once long time ago, I shut her down by saying “why? We can just fuck?” Then she felt repressed in her needs and had to do that online instead. (Still not right to do but she said that now she is able to talk to me and I won’t turn her away immediately or shut her off right away and i can tell her about how i feel or if i don’t like it after i try something, she will understand and not looking for it anywhere else again. She just wanted us to communicate) But now after I opened up and tried it after she actually talked to me and i actually listened, I like it too and I think things might happened for a reason like a wake up call by god or else.
It sounds like you two could possibly talk through this and you're willing to at least communicate. I'm sorry this happened bro.

Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding
Never apologize bro this is what EVO is here for.

Thank you brother, I tried
Lots of respect for still getting some training in through all this. Keep us posted please if you're still comfortable with it.
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
bros my ex cheated on me too. it rough experience. you gotta figure out if you consider that cheating her sending pics and talking vs. actually doing the act
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
its possible the tren came back to bite you and she used that time as an excuse to do that. you have to decide if you want to salvage the marriage or not
 
Thank you guys @HarleyGuy @ceo
Yes it’s still cheating doesn’t matter online or irl, but I would have left right away if it was physically or ramanticly cheating irl. She said she gonna keep being consistent and will never go back doesn’t matter i decided to stay or leave. After I caught her, she never blamed me or gaslight me at all, she took accountability for it and very remorseful she ashamed of herself and wish she never done it. She kept going on and off with this when ever she felt guilty she stops and then paint me as a bad guy in her head to justify herself in this loop. @Ulter I think I will give her a chance to prove her self because this is not the girl i married and the girl i know. She willing to open her eyes and accept me that I actually changed for real and not letting her mind villainize me ever again. If she wanna talk I will talk. Communication is what we are lacking
 
Yes for 3 days straight, It’s just she made me a villain in her head that I will rejected all her fantasy on kinky stuffs. Because I guess I used to turned her down without actually listening before. That’s why she needed to fullfill her needs to the easiest route, via online, where people not gonna judge her because they are into the same shit. I just hope that her videos not leaking out and got her fired from her job because she showed everything including her face. And after i caught her with those discord dms, I reacted calmly, no anger. That’s why she thinks she was wrong about me and can actually talk to me about her needs now because i’m not the same guy on tren who was furious on anything that i don’t like to hear. If the kink stuffs is the thing she like, i don’t wanna take it away from her life, so we decided to make our own discord server just for us to exchanges stuffs in there to fullfill her needs. @LevButlerov kinda long thank you for reading
@Pat7x it really sucks to have to go through this, man, but definitely sounds to me like you might want to consider just going ahead and going your separate ways and getting a clean divorce. Hopefully you both can come to an agreement on how to split things fairly between the two of you because trust is very important. There's plenty of fish in the sea. You will bounce back and find someone who treats you the way you deserve to be treated.
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
Getting cheated on is one of the worst things you can experience. It's a betrayal of trust; however, the good news is that she didn't cheat physically. It was just mentally so it's just something you need to think about. If you don't have kids, I would strongly recommend probably going different ways but if you do have kids, it's better to stay together for the kids' sake. @Pat7x
 
Guys, It’s been the roughest time in my life, I don’t wanna eat I don’t wanna do anything or I don’t even wanna live. 2 days ago i found out my wife has cheated on me via online sexting and sending naked pics and videos to random guys over a year. I don’t know where to go from now and even though she was regretting what she did and promised not to ever do it again, I still unsure about it. It’s all because of when I was an asshole on tren and treated her badly then she turned on me. She had to validated herself from somewhere else but when things started to get better in our relationship, she still can’t stop doing that until i caught her.
Sorry for the long update that’s not even about bodybuilding. I hope everyone never have to go through what I am right now
@Pat7x brother i would just say concentrate on yourself right now I’d be a fucking mess if that was me and I know I’d do things I’d regret
 
Thank you guys @HarleyGuy @ceo
Yes it’s still cheating doesn’t matter online or irl
I wasn't going to say this until you did but I agree with you wholeheartedly it's 100% still cheating. Social media is the devil.

I'm just glad you two are trying to find a way to navigate through both sides.
 
Broken heart but still gotta lift those weights.
Feeling a little better today. Wife willing to give her phone to me anytime her log in for any social media I will have it.
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Feeling a little better today. Wife willing to give her phone to me anytime her log in for any social media I will have it.
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Sounds like you are working through things so that is a huge positive bro. Once again really nice session under the circumstances . Use the "void" brother 🩵
 
She did spoke to me when it’s too late, she did when she felt like she was walking on eggshells. Then i changed myself right away and stopped tren. But the damages was already done i guess, so she was having thoughts like “oh, so you can change but why now? Blablabla” then resentment kicked in. Then she started it but when things going better she said she refused to accepted that i changed and need a reason in her head to be mad at me so she can justify her actions. After being caught and I was not freak out, she felt so dumb and was wrong all along. She said with the biggest thing in life like this i can stay calm and talk to her respectfully she believes that all demonizing shit about me that she put in her head was shattered into pieces and then she felt guilty and regret for not talking to me. if she had not letting her emotions drove her head and had talk to me about what she wants, she will not have kinks repressed like this. Yeah she afraid I will rejected her kinks.

@waggat for example, she loves mutual masturbation, she brought up to me once long time ago, I shut her down by saying “why? We can just fuck?” Then she felt repressed in her needs and had to do that online instead. (Still not right to do but she said that now she is able to talk to me and I won’t turn her away immediately or shut her off right away and i can tell her about how i feel or if i don’t like it after i try something, she will understand and not looking for it anywhere else again. She just wanted us to communicate) But now after I opened up and tried it after she actually talked to me and i actually listened, I like it too and I think things might happened for a reason like a wake up call by god or else.
Sounds like you have both learnt a lot. I think counselling is definitely worth pursuing. Need to make sure you are both comfortable with communicating and being heard by the other. And maybe no more tren for you either!
 
Some Updates, Idk this is tmi for evo or not but I just wanna share to let you guys know that she is not an evil she just lost to the voices in her head. Im not saying I will be soft and i told her i don’t promise that i will stay but i will give it a try since she gave me a chance when i was on tren and being a monster to her.
@Kopite67 @HarleyGuy @waggat
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Some Updates, Idk this is tmi for evo or not but I just wanna share to let you guys know that she is not an evil she just lost to the voices in her head. Im not saying I will be soft and i told her i don’t promise that i will stay but i will give it a try since she gave me a chance when i was on tren and being a monster to her.
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Never TMI on EVO bro so long as it's all in line with EVO terms of service (TOS).

First off nice workout despite emotionally being beat down. I find sometimes that's when I have my best workouts.

Since the floodgates are open with our honesty (mine to you and yours to all of us) the way I read those texts is that you two are at a stalemate and need to sit down together with someone who works with couples. You need to start again, not start over because your past is locked in, but 'start again' and see if what you both want at the same time is to make a go of this. Seems like you are trying to get her to open up and talk by pointing out you're hurt and why and she is waving the white flag a bit by not wanting to necessarily embark on that communication journey needed. Trying to get through this without unbiased help is like trying to beat yourself in an arm-wrestle.
 
Never TMI on EVO bro so long as it's all in line with EVO terms of service (TOS).

First off nice workout despite emotionally being beat down. I find sometimes that's when I have my best workouts.

Since the floodgates are open with our honesty (mine to you and yours to all of us) the way I read those texts is that you two are at a stalemate and need to sit down together with someone who works with couples. You need to start again, not start over because your past is locked in, but 'start again' and see if what you both want at the same time is to make a go of this. Seems like you are trying to get her to open up and talk by pointing out you're hurt and why and she is waving the white flag a bit by not wanting to necessarily embark on that communication journey needed. Trying to get through this without unbiased help is like trying to beat yourself in an arm-wrestle.
Can't really say it any better than this!
 
Some Updates, Idk this is tmi for evo or not but I just wanna share to let you guys know that she is not an evil she just lost to the voices in her head. Im not saying I will be soft and i told her i don’t promise that i will stay but i will give it a try since she gave me a chance when i was on tren and being a monster to her.
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Deep story I think if you want to stay with her be open about it but does she want to stay with you? :D @Pat7x
 
Thank you guys @HarleyGuy @ceo
Yes it’s still cheating doesn’t matter online or irl, but I would have left right away if it was physically or ramanticly cheating irl. She said she gonna keep being consistent and will never go back doesn’t matter i decided to stay or leave. After I caught her, she never blamed me or gaslight me at all, she took accountability for it and very remorseful she ashamed of herself and wish she never done it. She kept going on and off with this when ever she felt guilty she stops and then paint me as a bad guy in her head to justify herself in this loop. @Ulter I think I will give her a chance to prove her self because this is not the girl i married and the girl i know. She willing to open her eyes and accept me that I actually changed for real and not letting her mind villainize me ever again. If she wanna talk I will talk. Communication is what we are lacking
how did you end up catching her because women are really good at hiding stuff like that?
 
how did you end up catching her because women are really good at hiding stuff like that?
She got her phone screen opened up with that discord chats and left it on the counter while trying to make me smoothies when I got home from work @Ulter
 
She got her phone screen opened up with that discord chats and left it on the counter while trying to make me smoothies when I got home from work @Ulter
so she left it there for you to find or did you look through her phone? That's what I'm trying to understand.
Because when I was married we both had access to each other's phone and pass code, so it wouldn't be hard for us to catch each other doing something like that. Not sure what kind of marriage you have but trust is very important.
 
so she left it there for you to find or did you look through her phone? That's what I'm trying to understand.
Because when I was married we both had access to each other's phone and pass code, so it wouldn't be hard for us to catch each other doing something like that. Not sure what kind of marriage you have but trust is very important.
We always have access to each other phone, she just didn’t allowed notifications from discord. i saw it and asked her who is this and let her explain, and the next day I found out more characters, there’s men and women she been exchanging explicit photos and videos to. It’s a dirty community. @Ulter
 
We always have access to each other phone, she just didn’t allowed notifications from discord. i saw it and asked her who is this and let her explain, and the next day I found out more characters, there’s men and women she been exchanging explicit photos and videos to. It’s a dirty community. @Ulter
so she's spreading pictures on a social media app to random strangers. That's something that I would be curious to know why she would do that. Maybe she's seeking attention from other people. I have no idea.
 
so she's spreading pictures on a social media app to random strangers. That's something that I would be curious to know why she would do that. Maybe she's seeking attention from other people. I have no idea.
I was unapproachable at that period, I won’t listen to anything she had to say. She tried for months but I shut her down first. She thought I didn’t actually like her for her, I just here for convenience. I made fun and trashed her interest sometimes. i have to accept that we both in the wrong. Memories coming back, she used to say “babe, we need to talk and then i reply right away “about what? Again? Talk about what?” In an annoying tone. I remember now before she stopped and emotionally distance from me she said “we need a therapy” and guess what i said @Ulter
I said “No, you need a therapy” from that day i never hear she said she wanna talk again
 
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It’s clear that she actually love me all along, she did it not because she wanted other men but she wants to be accepted. Yes, it’s not right but I have to realize i cause this. I fucked her up so bad when i was on tren. I believe if i said what i did you guys will not gonna like me as a person.
We can’t fix what we did, there’s no time machine. We decided if we wanna be together, communication is key, never let anyone of us shit off the communication ever again and also have to be honest no secrets. That’s what we agreed on
@HarleyGuy @Kopite67 @waggat
 
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It’s clear that she actually love me all along, she did it not because she wanted other men but she wants to be accepted. Yes, it’s not right but I have to realize i cause this. I fucked her up so bad when i was on tren. I believe if i said what i did you guys will not gonna like me as a person.
We can’t fix what we did, there’s no time machine. We decided if we wanna be together, communication is key, never let anyone of us shit off the communication ever again and also have to be honest no secrets. That’s what we agreed on
@HarleyGuy @Kopite67 @waggat
Sounds good regarding the communication mate. Will be absolutely essential that you put it all out there beforehand and then keep the communication up.

Don't be too hard on yourself about how you acted on tren. We all make mistakes. The key is learning from it and growing.
 
In my opinion it seems like you guys went through a rough patch and you just did not realize it the whole time so she was seeking attention from others. And maybe she was trying to reach out to you but you were ignoring her. It's just the man and woman miscommunication thing where she viewed you a certain way during that time but you didn't think you were doing anything wrong.

If she was just sending naked pictures to random dudes on some social media app, I don't think that that's cheating, man. what if I went on a porn site and I did webcam with a girl? Would that be cheating? It's just web camming. If she sees my pecker on a video, I don't view that cheating at all. unless you actually know this person in real life that would be the only difference, not just some random stranger you will never see

In person, touching someone else or kissing someone else, that's 100% cheating but again those are my values and morals. If I go to a strip club and just look at naked women, is that cheating? In my view it isn't. As long as you're not touching anyone, you're fine. If you let the stripper give you a BJ, then yes, that's cheating obviously. Yours could be different.
 
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It’s clear that she actually love me all along, she did it not because she wanted other men but she wants to be accepted. Yes, it’s not right but I have to realize i cause this. I fucked her up so bad when i was on tren. I believe if i said what i did you guys will not gonna like me as a person.
We can’t fix what we did, there’s no time machine. We decided if we wanna be together, communication is key, never let anyone of us shit off the communication ever again and also have to be honest no secrets. That’s what we agreed on
@HarleyGuy @Kopite67 @waggat
Happy to read this bro, seems like you found a common ground.
 
In my opinion it seems like you guys went through a rough patch and you just did not realize it the whole time so she was seeking attention from others. And maybe she was trying to reach out to you but you were ignoring her. It's just the man and woman miscommunication thing where she viewed you a certain way during that time but you didn't think you were doing anything wrong.

If she was just sending naked pictures to random dudes on some social media app, I don't think that that's cheating, man. what if I went on a porn site and I did webcam with a girl? Would that be cheating? It's just web camming. If she sees my pecker on a video, I don't view that cheating at all. unless you actually know this person in real life that would be the only difference, not just some random stranger you will never see

In person, touching someone else or kissing someone else, that's 100% cheating but again those are my values and morals. If I go to a strip club and just look at naked women, is that cheating? In my view it isn't. As long as you're not touching anyone, you're fine. If you let the stripper give you a BJ, then yes, that's cheating obviously. Yours could be different.
@Ulter I actually have the similar views as yours
@waggat @HarleyGuy thanks bros
 
Yes sir, things starting to get better day by day, Injust hope it will be like this consistently
@Ulter
hopefully you don't share kids. That's the big dilemma when it comes to breakups because it's always the hard on the kids. If she does it again I will definitely pack my stuff and move out.
 
These are Thursday and Friday training, I didn’t posted but I still trained.
Also my last week of bulk progress is stalled, I only gained 0.1lbs frm last week.
 

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These are Thursday and Friday training, I didn’t posted but I still trained.
Also my last week of bulk progress is stalled, I only gained 0.1lbs frm last week.
Nice update bro. I hope that everything is improving and getting more settled in your life and you have made the decisions you need to for moving forward. Evo Family love to you 🩵
 
Nice update bro. I hope that everything is improving and getting more settled in your life and you have made the decisions you need to for moving forward. Evo Family love to you 🩵
@Kopite67 bro, you always stayed to ensure that im doing okay for the whole week and i don’t know what to say other than im so appreciate what you doing, I love you guys and hope you guys never have to go to any rough path in life at all and i hope all your goals will be successful
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@Kopite67 bro, you always stayed to ensure that im doing okay for the whole week and i don’t know what to say other than im so appreciate what you doing, I love you guys and hope you guys never have to go to any rough path in life at all and i hope all your goals will be successful
Sincerely
It has never crossed my mind to do anything else Brother. That's why we are a Family at Evo. Actions not words 🩵
 
My last update might be on Monday because my last deca pinned was 2 days ago. 20/20 weeks
20 weeks is good but lets move you into TRT log after, you ready? @Pat7x
 
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