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RonnieG said:
Heres a comparison. No pump in either under same lighting for fairness. Obviously dont look like im on anything. But considering the low dose and weight gained im pretty happy with how this has gone so far. A taste of what will come with future cycles.
88kg. 93kg. 4wks
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RonnieG said:
Lil pump
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Pretty sure my rib is broken.
Benching is near impossible. Part of me wants to stop the cycle and let the rib heal but i think ill follow thru. Can work around it with a great deal of pain...
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With your rib issues and no bench, you look really good, wide thick chest, thick arms and powerful shoulders. I like your abs are tight. You've done really well for just dbol imo.
 
Man, it's so refreshing that you're concerned about your blood pressure.
A lot of people don't give a shit.
 
Blood pressure is a silent killer. You're being very smart.
I recommend everyone who uses steroids. Got to keep an eye on that.
 
I think you look fantastic or being too hard on yourself.
Both pictures. You look great. The one on the right, you look leaner to me.
 
chesty said:
Man, it's so refreshing that you're concerned about your blood pressure.
A lot of people don't give a shit.
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I think on the other hand i have to expect its going to be at least i bit elevated due to the nature of taking steroids and gaining weight quickly. I think the eq has started to take effect bc im retaining way less water. Gone from pissing 4 times a night to once. Despite increasing dbol dose. Im aware eq will raise blood pressure over time but that will be more a concern next cycle.
Tell me this, so if you did Eq 16wks, and gave blood at 8wks to keep crit down. What if you just stopped at 8 weeks, would your hcrit come down naturally after a few weeks?
 
Keep up the good work, man.
Nothing wrong with a nice athletic physique. You don't have to look like a mass monster.
 
A vascularity looks insane.
Your biceps are popping like crazy.
 
dropped the dbol for a couple days to see how much i was relying on it to train, and just to see what happens. training was actually better than it has been in a bit. feel fiery af. definitely swung my androgen/e ratio way up especially with the EQ probably crushing e2 now. slight increase in libido which i haven't felt since week2, so e2 obviously got too high. feel much more my old self but maybe too far, getting some gamer rage, definitely could use some e2. I've had a total of about 900mg (slightly underfilled shots) of EQ in ten days to quickly saturate, now will take 200mg every 5 days. its doing something. could see the striations in my shoulders which is new. will reintroduce dbol soonish i just want to see where this goes. oh yeah and im way hungrier. can almost just eat constantly.
 
RonnieG said:
dropped the dbol for a couple days to see how much i was relying on it to train, and just to see what happens. training was actually better than it has been in a bit. feel fiery af. definitely swung my androgen/e ratio way up especially with the EQ probably crushing e2 now. slight increase in libido which i haven't felt since week2, so e2 obviously got too high. feel much more my old self but maybe too far, getting some gamer rage, definitely could use some e2. I've had a total of about 900mg (slightly underfilled shots) of EQ in ten days to quickly saturate, now will take 200mg every 5 days. its doing something. could see the striations in my shoulders which is new. will reintroduce dbol soonish i just want to see where this goes. oh yeah and im way hungrier. can almost just eat constantly.
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900mgs of equipoise in ten days? thats a big play, you have any pics of the EQ you using? trying to get the quality down.
 
Nice
 
Oh shit...
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Looks like im hitting 100 in a couple weeks 🤪
 
So last week i didnt take any dbol. Kinda felt like shit by the end but no worse than before starting. Coincidentally after the eq load i noticed i couldnt sleep which was killing my recovery since week 4. 1mg melatonin has fixed this. Im just someone whos sleep is easily affected by things, but im pretty sure it was the eq. Probably having anything constantly in my system is problematic, since i couldnt handle the dbol at night either. Reintroduced dbol at 5mg and feel really good. 97kg currently. Half way through wk 6. Gonna bump to 10mg and run to 12wks then come off and start nolva after 2 wks.
 
RonnieG said:
So last week i didnt take any dbol. Kinda felt like shit by the end but no worse than before starting. Coincidentally after the eq load i noticed i couldnt sleep which was killing my recovery since week 4. 1mg melatonin has fixed this. Im just someone whos sleep is easily affected by things, but im pretty sure it was the eq. Probably having anything constantly in my system is problematic, since i couldnt handle the dbol at night either. Reintroduced dbol at 5mg and feel really good. 97kg currently. Half way through wk 6. Gonna bump to 10mg and run to 12wks then come off and start nolva after 2 wks.
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you have any pics of the EQ? want to see what you pinning

hows your training? any updates?
 
Eddie Haskell said:
you have any pics of the EQ? want to see what you pinning

hows your training? any updates?
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I posted a pic of the eq in the thread about my source. I linked it a couple pages back. Looks clean and legit. The rib slipped out of place during deadlifts. Only because my upper arms were pressed into the sides of my body. Put me out of training for 3 days. So just working around that again, learning what i can and cant do. Next cycle will be better, but im still makimg gains so its worth it. Found i can db bench without pain which is a game changer. But yeah ill post prog pics in a couple weeks.
 
RonnieG said:
I posted a pic of the eq in the thread about my source. I linked it a couple pages back. Looks clean and legit. The rib slipped out of place during deadlifts. Only because my upper arms were pressed into the sides of my body. Put me out of training for 3 days. So just working around that again, learning what i can and cant do. Next cycle will be better, but im still makimg gains so its worth it. Found i can db bench without pain which is a game changer. But yeah ill post prog pics in a couple weeks.
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I was checking back not seeing it please repost

rib slipped how bad is it?
 
97kg
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so far Ive done this:

wk 1-2= 10mg dbol/day
wk 3= 15mg
wk 4= 20mg + 600mg eq/wk
wk 5= No dbol + 400eq
wk 6= 5 dbol + 300eq
wk 7 = 7.5 dbol + 300eq

Plan:

wk8-9 = 10dbol 300eq
wk10-14= 10dbol


gonna try maintain this ratio of fat up to 100kg (or 3 more weeks) and then stop the EQ and then the dbol 2-4 weeks later. liver and kidneys are fine. Blood pressure went through the roof for a bit. but i started taking potassium whenever i have to eat something salty and a bit during the day and most of the time just avoid sodium. shed 2 kilos of water in like a day, and BP dropped with it. hopefully the hunger will go down after i drop the eq while the dbol still works for a couple weeks. i know dbol isnt for cutting but i have no interest in being dry so if i can keep some glycogen while being in a deficit it doesn't seem like such a bad option. so itl be like a 4 wk mini cut at the end with just dbol. then will come off for 3-4 weeks then nolva. Obviously needed to run eq longer even with the frontload but whatever, i felt like i got something out of it even if it was just being able to use less dbol (5-10mg isnt even a cycle dose.)
 
RonnieG said:
97kg
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so far Ive done this:

wk 1-2= 10mg dbol/day
wk 3= 15mg
wk 4= 20mg + 600mg eq/wk
wk 5= No dbol + 400eq
wk 6= 5 dbol + 300eq
wk 7 = 7.5 dbol + 300eq

Plan:

wk8-9 = 10dbol 300eq
wk10-14= 10dbol


gonna try maintain this ratio of fat up to 100kg (or 3 more weeks) and then stop the EQ and then the dbol 2-4 weeks later. liver and kidneys are fine. Blood pressure went through the roof for a bit. but i started taking potassium whenever i have to eat something salty and a bit during the day and most of the time just avoid sodium. shed 2 kilos of water in like a day, and BP dropped with it. hopefully the hunger will go down after i drop the eq while the dbol still works for a couple weeks. i know dbol isnt for cutting but i have no interest in being dry so if i can keep some glycogen while being in a deficit it doesn't seem like such a bad option. so itl be like a 4 wk mini cut at the end with just dbol. then will come off for 3-4 weeks then nolva. Obviously needed to run eq longer even with the frontload but whatever, i felt like i got something out of it even if it was just being able to use less dbol (5-10mg isnt even a cycle dose.)
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@RonnieG you look great, very tight and strong, abs coming out nicely :D for a light cycle like you doing, you got great genetics
merry Xmas :D
 
stevesmi said:
why not swap out dbol for something else unless you really like it
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probably stubbornness. This was a learning experience and its coming to an end soon so ill just run with it for now. next cycle i will likely use a test base instead. either way i probably need to be running a low dose AI. id like to try deca as well so ill have to look into pairing that with test + EQ. ive read a couple anecdotes that claim dbol eliminates some of the deca sides. seems risky considering dbol being estrogenic. and both are wet af. might just run deca + EQ and see how it feels?? they seem like they would form a base on their own, as the progestogenic increase also increases the conversion of estrone to E2 i think i saw somewhere? seems like most of the problems people get from deca come from pairing with test. I need some size more than anything and deca seems like the one for that.
 
RonnieG said:
Ive been asked to log my dianabol only cycle despite not really wanting to. but if i run into issues it may be beneficial to me down the line so.. First to pre-emptively address every other comment that will be asking "why?": because. thank you.

Ok so i started lifting in HS for like 2.5 years age 16-18:
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Got depressed stopped lifting. looked like this at like 22, 6'1 76kg:
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Started up again in 2020. Did this in 14 months. 82kg to 93kg. not even sure how i did it, was drinking like crazy and not sleeping well and running on pure caffeine. my body just randomly decided to produce hormones again. ill never understand what happened. but i was training so hard i slipped a disc in my back and got sciatica. anyway youll understand why i subscribe to the training > diet/sleep/lifestyle argument personally:
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soon after this i noticed my hair falling out so i took fin for 3 months. started to notice i was turning into a female emotionally like crying a lot and like acting like a mom to my friends. stopped fin. slowly developed complete dysphoria and anhedonia, deepest darkest depression of my life. everyone ditched. after 2 years i found the only thing that gave relief was 9mg of boron a day. i figured this meant i probably had low free t and e2. Doc gave me a test test. 475ng/dl. pretty useless without knowing what it was before. looked online for clinics or somewhere to get bloods done. couldn't find anything close so gave up. (now i realise there actually is heaps around so ill get that done when i can afford it.)

anyways fast forward to 5 days ago 88kg, 3 days on, i did some pushups before the second shot cause i needed to. second pic im 0.5kg lighter somehow despite the appetite increase and my compliance in satiating it:
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Ive naturally almost immediately upped calories by about 40%. and really making an effort to hit 200g protein. just guesswork with fats (feel based protocol) and carbs as i need them. whats weird is im hungry but it feels like my stomach is clogged. probably needs to stretch to accommodate the extra food. glad i started low. 5mgx2(10mg)/day for the first three days and then the next 2 were 7.5mgx2. starting on 10 tomorrow. from reading around it seems like with this compound you wanna go short and hard as opposed to what i was originally gonna do which was slow and low. so gonna ramp it up to 20 gauging how i feel with each incremental increase. i get its still low.

5mg was powerful the first time. now it has normalised and i dont feel it nearly as much so thats how im gauging the increases. anyway a big thing is it has temporarily cured every mental ailment ive had for my entire adult life. which is probably an indicator that i need to be on TRT long term, which can be pursued after i get bloods done etc. but gonna have some fun with this rn anyway. also my nips have never been smaller. also i have the insatiable urge to cuddle smaller guys and tell them everything's ok.

biggest question i have is should i split 3 ways instead and do a third at night just to stay anabolic the whole time since im keeping this cycle shorter now (6 weeks at ~20mg as opposed to 12wk at 10mg). my thinking was if its pretty much out of my system when i go to bed, at least my balls will be trying to begin the process of making test towards the morning even though they wont make much, and then presumably when i come off ill bounce back quicker. or do i just go full crush to make the most of it and then come off and deal with the aftermath (which might be the same either way). i guess we dont really have the science to answer that rn. anyway the plan is to come off and then do it again a month or so later to let the old cirrhosis heal. (i genuinely probably have cirrhosis ive almost died from alcohol multiple times. but doc says liver is fine.) obviously im not touching a drop while on.

Also do i need more sleep while on or less? i remember derek mcplaydates saying u can sleep less on test or something. ive been going to bed a little earlier but it gives me cheat mode energy anyway. and yeah im worried if i take it at night i wont sleep but if its worth the anabolism ill try it at least and see if i can.

im taking NAC TUDSCA and fish oil and a Multi once a day. and electrolytes during training and magnesium at night.
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Dbol only proven in multiple studies to not shut you down either and leave you with higher test levels after 6 weeks.

Again, proven in studies.

DBOL and Halo short cycles are the bees knees. You’ll find phenomenal progress doing the shorter cycles few a few weeks off in between cycles.

Keen to see how you progress!
 
RonnieG said:
97kg
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so far Ive done this:

wk 1-2= 10mg dbol/day
wk 3= 15mg
wk 4= 20mg + 600mg eq/wk
wk 5= No dbol + 400eq
wk 6= 5 dbol + 300eq
wk 7 = 7.5 dbol + 300eq

Plan:

wk8-9 = 10dbol 300eq
wk10-14= 10dbol


gonna try maintain this ratio of fat up to 100kg (or 3 more weeks) and then stop the EQ and then the dbol 2-4 weeks later. liver and kidneys are fine. Blood pressure went through the roof for a bit. but i started taking potassium whenever i have to eat something salty and a bit during the day and most of the time just avoid sodium. shed 2 kilos of water in like a day, and BP dropped with it. hopefully the hunger will go down after i drop the eq while the dbol still works for a couple weeks. i know dbol isnt for cutting but i have no interest in being dry so if i can keep some glycogen while being in a deficit it doesn't seem like such a bad option. so itl be like a 4 wk mini cut at the end with just dbol. then will come off for 3-4 weeks then nolva. Obviously needed to run eq longer even with the frontload but whatever, i felt like i got something out of it even if it was just being able to use less dbol (5-10mg isnt even a cycle dose.)
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You seem to know a lot about dbol / deca only

Don’t suppose you also follow the camel’s work on his FB group?
 
Mobster said:
No need to pyramid up and down
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yeah, i was just recapping what i did it wasn't planned like that. was initially going to do a short taper to a steady dose but estrogen got too high so tried to load the EQ quickly and temporarily dropped the dbol in the meantime. also wanted to see how bad it felt coming off for a week.
 
eq and dbol is a cool stack.

you will get some good moderate bulk on it.
 
make sure you shave that body for us. So we can see what we're looking at.
 
it wouldn't hurt to try anavar. its a very good oral and you won't have to worry about water retention on it.
 
that dbol really fills up your muscles.

we can see you are ripped nicely!
 
Looking good, man. Much respect for the size that you've put on.
 
Can tell you have excellent vascularity in your arms.

You're getting some good pumps. I bet from those workouts.
 
Trying stuff on your own is the best way to do it.
A lot of Bro Science get started Simply by guys trying to seem smart and parroting the same information over and over.
 
Lookin solid bro
 
RonnieG said:
97kg
View attachment 66747

so far Ive done this:

wk 1-2= 10mg dbol/day
wk 3= 15mg
wk 4= 20mg + 600mg eq/wk
wk 5= No dbol + 400eq
wk 6= 5 dbol + 300eq
wk 7 = 7.5 dbol + 300eq

Plan:

wk8-9 = 10dbol 300eq
wk10-14= 10dbol


gonna try maintain this ratio of fat up to 100kg (or 3 more weeks) and then stop the EQ and then the dbol 2-4 weeks later. liver and kidneys are fine. Blood pressure went through the roof for a bit. but i started taking potassium whenever i have to eat something salty and a bit during the day and most of the time just avoid sodium. shed 2 kilos of water in like a day, and BP dropped with it. hopefully the hunger will go down after i drop the eq while the dbol still works for a couple weeks. i know dbol isnt for cutting but i have no interest in being dry so if i can keep some glycogen while being in a deficit it doesn't seem like such a bad option. so itl be like a 4 wk mini cut at the end with just dbol. then will come off for 3-4 weeks then nolva. Obviously needed to run eq longer even with the frontload but whatever, i felt like i got something out of it even if it was just being able to use less dbol (5-10mg isnt even a cycle dose.)
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@RonnieG looking lean and strong bro!
 
88 - 100kg

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Switched to test 250 a few days ago because was starting to feel sluggish and loss of appetite from the dbol. And the positive effect was just nowhere near as pronounced as in the first 5 weeks or so. would only run it as a starter for a few weeks in the future. figures. The EQ definitely reduced the estrogen sides, but I've stopped the EQ now. just running test for another few weeks to get a bit cut so i can come off into a surplus, as opposed to - coming off bulked, not being able to keep calories as high, fall into a deficit and lose all gains.

Either way I'm pretty happy with 12kg gained with a similar bodyfat %. weird amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks.

but yeah, test is best. noted. want to take 2 months off and then go in again. next cycle i want to do 500 Test, 200 eq (estrogen mgmt), 200 deca (pain relief/recovery). just using the latter two to augment, not really for added anabolic effect. 4 week dbol starter, 6 week var finish. 16wk total.
 
RonnieG said:
88 - 100kg

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Switched to test 250 a few days ago because was starting to feel sluggish and loss of appetite from the dbol. And the positive effect was just nowhere near as pronounced as in the first 5 weeks or so. would only run it as a starter for a few weeks in the future. figures. The EQ definitely reduced the estrogen sides, but I've stopped the EQ now. just running test for another few weeks to get a bit cut so i can come off into a surplus, as opposed to - coming off bulked, not being able to keep calories as high, fall into a deficit and lose all gains.

Either way I'm pretty happy with 12kg gained with a similar bodyfat %. weird amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks.

but yeah, test is best. noted. want to take 2 months off and then go in again. next cycle i want to do 500 Test, 200 eq (estrogen mgmt), 200 deca (pain relief/recovery). just using the latter two to augment, not really for added anabolic effect. 4 week dbol starter, 6 week var finish. 16wk total.
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88 to 100kgs is a huge difference bro ;) you're super beast right there
leaner and bigger too woW~ i would say you made impressive gains for sure
 
A lot of people like testosterone but some people don't. Everybody's gonna be a little different.
 
Let us know how you like to Deca from pain relief.
I definitely have used it for that purpose, over the years with success.
 
Looking forward to see what kind of results you can get.

dbol as a kickstarter and var to finish is cool!
 
Definitely can tell you had a nice little transformation. The pictures. Don't lie. Great job.
 
Very nice, man. We're looking forward to your continued success.

12 kg is not bad at all.
 
RonnieG said:
88 - 100kg

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Switched to test 250 a few days ago because was starting to feel sluggish and loss of appetite from the dbol. And the positive effect was just nowhere near as pronounced as in the first 5 weeks or so. would only run it as a starter for a few weeks in the future. figures. The EQ definitely reduced the estrogen sides, but I've stopped the EQ now. just running test for another few weeks to get a bit cut so i can come off into a surplus, as opposed to - coming off bulked, not being able to keep calories as high, fall into a deficit and lose all gains.

Either way I'm pretty happy with 12kg gained with a similar bodyfat %. weird amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks.

but yeah, test is best. noted. want to take 2 months off and then go in again. next cycle i want to do 500 Test, 200 eq (estrogen mgmt), 200 deca (pain relief/recovery). just using the latter two to augment, not really for added anabolic effect. 4 week dbol starter, 6 week var finish. 16wk total.
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@RonnieG hell yeah looking great!
 
RonnieG said:
88 - 100kg

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Switched to test 250 a few days ago because was starting to feel sluggish and loss of appetite from the dbol. And the positive effect was just nowhere near as pronounced as in the first 5 weeks or so. would only run it as a starter for a few weeks in the future. figures. The EQ definitely reduced the estrogen sides, but I've stopped the EQ now. just running test for another few weeks to get a bit cut so i can come off into a surplus, as opposed to - coming off bulked, not being able to keep calories as high, fall into a deficit and lose all gains.

Either way I'm pretty happy with 12kg gained with a similar bodyfat %. weird amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks.

but yeah, test is best. noted. want to take 2 months off and then go in again. next cycle i want to do 500 Test, 200 eq (estrogen mgmt), 200 deca (pain relief/recovery). just using the latter two to augment, not really for added anabolic effect. 4 week dbol starter, 6 week var finish. 16wk total.
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@RonnieG Nice progress so far.....good update..........
 
RonnieG said:
88 - 100kg

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Switched to test 250 a few days ago because was starting to feel sluggish and loss of appetite from the dbol. And the positive effect was just nowhere near as pronounced as in the first 5 weeks or so. would only run it as a starter for a few weeks in the future. figures. The EQ definitely reduced the estrogen sides, but I've stopped the EQ now. just running test for another few weeks to get a bit cut so i can come off into a surplus, as opposed to - coming off bulked, not being able to keep calories as high, fall into a deficit and lose all gains.

Either way I'm pretty happy with 12kg gained with a similar bodyfat %. weird amount of muscle to gain in 10 weeks.

but yeah, test is best. noted. want to take 2 months off and then go in again. next cycle i want to do 500 Test, 200 eq (estrogen mgmt), 200 deca (pain relief/recovery). just using the latter two to augment, not really for added anabolic effect. 4 week dbol starter, 6 week var finish. 16wk total.
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S great work
 
102kg

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tried doing a mini cut at the end but struggled to lean out i think due to high e2. upped calories again and got a bit bigger while staying about the same bf%. ive added Arimidex 2mg/3d. looking way healthier on the T than dbol. it's about time to come off though and try again in a couple months. 15 wks. prolactin seems up just by looking at the tips of my nips and libido lowish. tried taking 100mg P5P but it gave me b6 toxicity on a single dose (nerve tingles/numbness in fingers). started sprinkling a small amount of the capsule daily to avoid this.
 
RonnieG said:
102kg

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tried doing a mini cut at the end but struggled to lean out i think due to high e2. upped calories again and got a bit bigger while staying about the same bf%. ive added Arimidex 2mg/3d. looking way healthier on the T than dbol. it's about time to come off though and try again in a couple months. 15 wks. prolactin seems up just by looking at the tips of my nips and libido lowish. tried taking 100mg P5P but it gave me b6 toxicity on a single dose (nerve tingles/numbness in fingers). started sprinkling a small amount of the capsule daily to avoid this.
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@RonnieG a lot of stuff here seems guess work bro ;) you able to do bloods to see about estrogen/prolactin?
and p5p just basic vitamin b6 gave you toxicity?
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@RonnieG a lot of stuff here seems guess work bro ;) you able to do bloods to see about estrogen/prolactin?
and p5p just basic vitamin b6 gave you toxicity?
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its P5P. i had started doing heavy bench work for a couple weeks so it may have been inflammation in the tendons causing nerve compression. it could also just be the high E2 causing the issues and not prolactin. I'm coming off now anyway so will have to see in a few months if the Arimidex helps with the symptoms when i start up again. i love guesswork. if i was having major issues id get bloodwork but I've mostly felt better on gear than before. any issues I've had are intermittent and relatively benign.
 
RonnieG said:
its P5P. i had started doing heavy bench work for a couple weeks so it may have been inflammation in the tendons causing nerve compression. it could also just be the high E2 causing the issues and not prolactin. I'm coming off now anyway so will have to see in a few months if the Arimidex helps with the symptoms when i start up again. i love guesswork. if i was having major issues id get bloodwork but I've mostly felt better on gear than before. any issues I've had are intermittent and relatively benign.
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you cant get bloods? is it a legal thing or financial bro? @RonnieG
 
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