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I can see the habitual aspect being a problem for people. I remember quitting smoking was the hardest when I was driving simply because I was so used to just lighting up in my car.

I had a crazy recovery spike where my RHR went down, respiratory rate down, and HRV went way up, all after I fasted 16hrs and atw less on the day. You think there's a correlation there or is it just coincidence @stevesmi

Are you aware of any research linking fasting to improved recovery?
bros i got relatives who eat habit. can tell on thanksgiving. they always eat like 4-5 plates of food @BeMe
 
That sounds like a fun job.
its a fun job but theme parks don't take care of employees at all. when i retired they gave me a cupcake. and called me like 3 weeks later to come by and pick up my check. they wouldn't even bother to send it to me or thank me for years of service
 
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its a fun job but theme parks don't take care of employees at all. when i retired they gave me a cupcake. and called me like 3 weeks later to come by and pick up my check. they wouldn't even bother to send it to me or thank me for years of service
That's shitty, honestly If I retired from a company I wouldn't even care I would just be super happy to be retired and not having to go to work any more and as long as all there checks cleared!
 
Yea it's the same way up here. Less maintenance and down time with the underground. These days people will choose their Wi-Fi over their power in their houses so fibre feeds are now essential lol
that is weird man. if that is the case how does your modem get powered ? i would think both would be important
 
Log Day 199

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 750mcg BPC 157, 2mg Tb500 EOD

I'm adding in the peptide list now cuz I'm basically in a healing phase and it's pretty relevant. Hopefully the peptides will help speed up this recovery of my dental implant.

It's a shame I'm gonna mark my 200th log day with time outta the gym...I miss training already and it's only day 2.

On the bright side, my recovery seriously spiked today. Major differences yesterday were a 16 hour fast and a pretty big decrease in macros. I did rest a bit too, but still went to work after my dental surgery in the morning. I'm wondering if maybe the random fast resulted in this huge change in recovery.

See below, RHR dropped, respiratory rate dropped, and HRV spiked. I would've thought my sleep would suck given all the pain and discomfort I'm in but I sleep like a baby. Didn't even wake up to pee.

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What are you guys paying for that type of dental procedure? Seems like you pay a lot of money considering Toronto is one of the most expensive cities in the world. I'm sure the dentists have to make their payment on their big house. @BeMe
 
first thing in the morning i was high HR. then it went down rest of day. i actually attribute it to an electrolyte imbalance and dehydration. i would drink some lightly salted mineral water and it would fix instantly

as far as the autophagy i did bloods after 5 days fasting and indeed my white blood cell count was LOW. so fasting kills your cells, then once the fast is over you can test again and see they are back up. this is autophagy and like having an army and getting rid of the older troops for fresh 18 year olds.
Whoa that's pretty cool. Never new that one.

Ok I'm sold. I'll start fasting for a day every couple of weeks. I thought it might be counterintuitive for growth because I'm such a hard gainer. After seeing these recovery results I had though it can only be beneficial in the long run.
 
that is weird man. if that is the case how does your modem get powered ? i would think both would be important
Touche. Both are really important but a lot of modems have built in battery backups these days. Or you could just have a UPS that will keep your Wi-Fi going for days. All I know is when I'm working and people's houses and I have to cut the power or the only thing they're concerned about is if their router will go down LOL
 
What are you guys paying for that type of dental procedure? Seems like you pay a lot of money considering Toronto is one of the most expensive cities in the world. I'm sure the dentists have to make their payment on their big house. @BeMe
For a dental implant and crown I'll be in for just over $5000 CAD which is just under 4k USD.

My dental specialist perform my procedure wearing a Rolex LOL. I was looking at it like man this guy must really have a lot of money if he's willing to get my blood in saliva all over his Rolex and not give a shit haha
 
Whoa that's pretty cool. Never new that one.

Ok I'm sold. I'll start fasting for a day every couple of weeks. I thought it might be counterintuitive for growth because I'm such a hard gainer. After seeing these recovery results I had though it can only be beneficial in the long run.
the truth is fasting will help you build more quality muscle over time. those cells get regenerated. Big Ramy and Hadi both have been fasting their whole lives due to their religion/culture. and they are pretty damn huge.
 
For a dental implant and crown I'll be in for just over $5000 CAD which is just under 4k USD.

My dental specialist perform my procedure wearing a Rolex LOL. I was looking at it like man this guy must really have a lot of money if he's willing to get my blood in saliva all over his Rolex and not give a shit haha
My neighbor owns a company that just makes tooth implants. He’s pretty cool. But the opposite. You would think this dude is very average financially. But he doesn’t even live in the house next to me. He just keeps his boats and toys there because the rules allow riverfront homes to have all kinds of junk in the yard 😂😂😂. And he throws huge family camp outs. His other house is in a gated community with these canals dredged out it’s awesome but way too fancy.

My daughter was born with a missing tooth. I told her it looked tough but she wanted the implant. My neighbor made it :)
 
the truth is fasting will help you build more quality muscle over time. those cells get regenerated. Big Ramy and Hadi both have been fasting their whole lives due to their religion/culture. and they are pretty damn huge.
Very good points. Once I saw my metrics after that fast I was convinced. I didn't do anything else that day and I was put through a pretty traumatic dental surgery LOL. Recovery should not have been that good. I'm going to try another 18-hour fast on and off day between training sessions and see how that goes. For now I'm off for a week all together trying to recover
 
For a dental implant and crown I'll be in for just over $5000 CAD which is just under 4k USD.

My dental specialist perform my procedure wearing a Rolex LOL. I was looking at it like man this guy must really have a lot of money if he's willing to get my blood in saliva all over his Rolex and not give a shit haha
Yeah, the teeth are important to take care of. If we don't take care of them, then it's a bad investment and you end up paying more in the future.
 
Touche. Both are really important but a lot of modems have built in battery backups these days. Or you could just have a UPS that will keep your Wi-Fi going for days. All I know is when I'm working and people's houses and I have to cut the power or the only thing they're concerned about is if their router will go down LOL
there are batteries that will last for days that you can hook up to the modem? how much do those cost?
 
That's shitty, honestly If I retired from a company I wouldn't even care I would just be super happy to be retired and not having to go to work any more and as long as all there checks cleared!
i love my work. i was forced to retire early cause the pay was so poor. it didn't justify working 48 hours straight
 
That sucks! Are you 100%retired now or do you still do something?
After my wife threw herself off the balcony, the life insurance company finally paid me out so I don't really have to work. They tried to not pay me because they said that the circumstances were very fishy, but I ended up hiring a really good lawyer and he helped me collect. Plus I worked with a guy in Jamaica who worked for the police department there and he vouched for me. Of course I had to pay him a small fee, but he took care of everything.

The gym is my job today. Along with helping others on here. It really gives me a sense of community. And I love all of you.
 
Whoa that's pretty cool. Never new that one.

Ok I'm sold. I'll start fasting for a day every couple of weeks. I thought it might be counterintuitive for growth because I'm such a hard gainer. After seeing these recovery results I had though it can only be beneficial in the long run.
Fasting is so good , your going to love it , every couple of months I do a 24-48 hr . Mental aspects alone are amazing
 
Yeah, the teeth are important to take care of. If we don't take care of them, then it's a bad investment and you end up paying more in the future.
Yeah this is from an old injury. Other than that my teeth are fine. But yeah definitely like you said if you don't take good care of them, then you end up paying a fortune and you can get really sick too. Poor oral health is linked to heart disease
 
there are batteries that will last for days that you can hook up to the modem? how much do those cost?
Yeah modem actually uses very very little power. You can buy a UPS unit at the dreaded Costco for a few hundred bucks. That would last you at least a few days
 
i love my work. i was forced to retire early cause the pay was so poor. it didn't justify working 48 hours straight
You should be coming Alpha influencer on YouTube. They're pretty big nowadays and seriously rich. Your are THE alpha. You could get famous by out alphaing the famous alphas haha
 
Fasting is so good , your going to love it , every couple of months I do a 24-48 hr . Mental aspects alone are amazing
I used to do time restricted eating and I was healthy as a horse even tho I treated my body like shit. Felt good all the time living in a shitty diet and I stayed in good shape.

Only pushed for 48hrs once tho and it didn't work out well for me at work. Maybe I'll try 24hrs tho and see how it goes. Thanks @Freki
 
Log Day 201

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 900mcg bpc 157 ed, 2mg tb500 EOD

Sorry I missed my log update yesterday, other things ate up my time yesterday here.

Still not training, day 4 now. I am feeling really good though. Recovery has been amazing and sleep has been on another level.

Something's happened where I don't have to wake up to pee in the middle of the night the last two nights. It'll happen every once in awhile but never two nights in a row. I'm sleeping much deeper too, barely any awake time. Waking up super well rested and full of energy at work.

With not training I've just been working extra hours every day LOL. My company is always busy and I can pretty much work as much as I want so I figure if I'm not getting home to train might as well just work an extra couple hours on the tools. I'll just make some extra money to pay for all these big expenses I got coming up.

Think these antibiotics opened me up to a virus that's floating around right now. I keep getting these fever symptoms in waves the last 2 days.

Still waiting on a big touchdown, Canada Post fucking sucks. What used to be 3-day Max shipment is now over 5 days at this point and still no package. Oh Canada...

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Log Day 201

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 900mcg bpc 157 ed, 2mg tb500 EOD

Sorry I missed my log update yesterday, other things ate up my time yesterday here.

Still not training, day 4 now. I am feeling really good though. Recovery has been amazing and sleep has been on another level.

Something's happened where I don't have to wake up to pee in the middle of the night the last two nights. It'll happen every once in awhile but never two nights in a row. I'm sleeping much deeper too, barely any awake time. Waking up super well rested and full of energy at work.

With not training I've just been working extra hours every day LOL. My company is always busy and I can pretty much work as much as I want so I figure if I'm not getting home to train might as well just work an extra couple hours on the tools. I'll just make some extra money to pay for all these big expenses I got coming up.

Think these antibiotics opened me up to a virus that's floating around right now. I keep getting these fever symptoms in waves the last 2 days.

Still waiting on a big touchdown, Canada Post fucking sucks. What used to be 3-day Max shipment is now over 5 days at this point and still no package. Oh Canada...

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Good update, recovery clearly kicking in strong and that deep sleep is perfect :D @BeMe
Fever waves might just be immune rebound from the antibiotics, you need to rest it this week.

Do you have all the aids added like echinacea and elderberry?
 
After my wife threw herself off the balcony, the life insurance company finally paid me out so I don't really have to work. They tried to not pay me because they said that the circumstances were very fishy, but I ended up hiring a really good lawyer and he helped me collect. Plus I worked with a guy in Jamaica who worked for the police department there and he vouched for me. Of course I had to pay him a small fee, but he took care of everything.

The gym is my job today. Along with helping others on here. It really gives me a sense of community. And I love all of you.
Dude that is awesome! I am happy for you. Glad your here to help all of us.
 
Log Day 201

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 900mcg bpc 157 ed, 2mg tb500 EOD

Sorry I missed my log update yesterday, other things ate up my time yesterday here.

Still not training, day 4 now. I am feeling really good though. Recovery has been amazing and sleep has been on another level.

Something's happened where I don't have to wake up to pee in the middle of the night the last two nights. It'll happen every once in awhile but never two nights in a row. I'm sleeping much deeper too, barely any awake time. Waking up super well rested and full of energy at work.

With not training I've just been working extra hours every day LOL. My company is always busy and I can pretty much work as much as I want so I figure if I'm not getting home to train might as well just work an extra couple hours on the tools. I'll just make some extra money to pay for all these big expenses I got coming up.

Think these antibiotics opened me up to a virus that's floating around right now. I keep getting these fever symptoms in waves the last 2 days.

Still waiting on a big touchdown, Canada Post fucking sucks. What used to be 3-day Max shipment is now over 5 days at this point and still no package. Oh Canada...

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@BeMe That's some really good consistency there. Updating your Log so often! if you miss a day no big deal.
 
Good update, recovery clearly kicking in strong and that deep sleep is perfect :D @BeMe
Fever waves might just be immune rebound from the antibiotics, you need to rest it this week.

Do you have all the aids added like echinacea and elderberry?
No echinacea...I think that's kinda hocus pocus stuff lol. Seems like a sciop to me.

Elderberry I've been taking. That stuff really helps anytime I'm feeling a bit off.
 
@Ulter needs to go at Andrew Tate and out alpha his ass and take all his minions lol
I support that. That guy is really annoying. When I found out he existed I was like “who is this guy and why is he relevant?” He’s just a dude who says things a certain way and people are like “yeah!”
 
I support that. That guy is really annoying. When I found out he existed I was like “who is this guy and why is he relevant?” He’s just a dude who says things a certain way and people are like “yeah!”
I don't get any of these influencers lol. It's all very confusing to my old brain.
 
No echinacea...I think that's kinda hocus pocus stuff lol. Seems like a sciop to me.

Elderberry I've been taking. That stuff really helps anytime I'm feeling a bit off.
Echinacea is the real deal for immune support, it boosts macrophage and NK-cell activity which shortens the duration and intensity of flus. It works best when started early, but you can still use it 14 days 1000mgs 3x/d. :D @BeMe

Add higher dose of vitamin C 5 grams (just for 7 days), and zinc (try to get bio or picolinate) 50mgs ed, I checked not sure you still taking zinc.

Olive leaf extract is another solid immune booster,its because of the compound oleuropein which has antiviral and antibacterial properties. It can reduce viral replication and inflammation, for sure i use it with all clients.
dose around 1000mgs ed but you need to get high % concentration like +20

You can also add quercetin 500mgs 2× ed for its antiviral and anti inflammatory support.

@HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @Pigsy @Allupfromhere
 
Echinacea is the real deal for immune support, it boosts macrophage and NK-cell activity which shortens the duration and intensity of flus. It works best when started early, but you can still use it 14 days 1000mgs 3x/d. :D @BeMe

Add higher dose of vitamin C 5 grams (just for 7 days), and zinc (try to get bio or picolinate) 50mgs ed, I checked not sure you still taking zinc.

Olive leaf extract is another solid immune booster,its because of the compound oleuropein which has antiviral and antibacterial properties. It can reduce viral replication and inflammation, for sure i use it with all clients.
dose around 1000mgs ed but you need to get high % concentration like +20

You can also add quercetin 500mgs 2× ed for its antiviral and anti inflammatory support.

@HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @Pigsy @Allupfromhere
Here's an article about what I'm talking about. The research on echinacea was all fake. That guy who was the godfather of echinacea and pushing it on everyone turned out to be a fraud. He was making a ton of money off of it and lied to get rich. He was a Canadian.

science.org/content/article/star-botanist-likely-made-data-about-nutritional-supplements-new-probe-finds
 
Echinacea is the real deal for immune support, it boosts macrophage and NK-cell activity which shortens the duration and intensity of flus. It works best when started early, but you can still use it 14 days 1000mgs 3x/d. :D @BeMe

Add higher dose of vitamin C 5 grams (just for 7 days), and zinc (try to get bio or picolinate) 50mgs ed, I checked not sure you still taking zinc.

Olive leaf extract is another solid immune booster,its because of the compound oleuropein which has antiviral and antibacterial properties. It can reduce viral replication and inflammation, for sure i use it with all clients.
dose around 1000mgs ed but you need to get high % concentration like +20

You can also add quercetin 500mgs 2× ed for its antiviral and anti inflammatory support.

@HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @Pigsy @Allupfromhere
I do the high dose c and added elderberry cause of your advice and it works great. Anytime I feel a bit off usually one or two doses of that and I'm back to normal.

Zinc I take daily. My zinc levels always come back perfect on all my blood panels.

Olive leaf and quercetin I've never even heard of lol. I'll add be screenshotting this and adding it to my file lol
 
I do the high dose c and added elderberry cause of your advice and it works great. Anytime I feel a bit off usually one or two doses of that and I'm back to normal.

Zinc I take daily. My zinc levels always come back perfect on all my blood panels.

Olive leaf and quercetin I've never even heard of lol. I'll add be screenshotting this and adding it to my file lol
Yes I looked back saw zinc but not sure if its 50mgs + when sick, during zinc day you bump it.
add some olive leaf and quercetin its solid :D @BeMe
 
Here's an article about what I'm talking about. The research on echinacea was all fake. That guy who was the godfather of echinacea and pushing it on everyone turned out to be a fraud. He was making a ton of money off of it and lied to get rich. He was a Canadian.

science.org/content/article/star-botanist-likely-made-data-about-nutritional-supplements-new-probe-finds
Quick rebuttal that Science article. It’s about alleged data fabrication in DNA barcoding and labeling work by Steven Newmaster, which deals with whats in bottles, not whether echinacea works. I read that a while back I think. @BeMe

From what I read, clinical evidence is mixed on it. The Cochrane review of randomized trials found small and uncertain treatment effects, thats true I agree. But if you read the article he didn't test to people properly in the trials imo.
Newer data shows benefit with certain Echinacea purpurea extracts, including fewer respiratory infections and lower antibiotic use in some studies.
check this
https://eurjmedres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40001-021-00499-6
Echinacea reduces antibiotic usage in children through respiratory tract infection prevention: a randomized, blinded, controlled clinical trial
If you read them, the NIH summaries land in the middle saying echinacea may reduce your chance of catching a cold. But I don't trust NIH summaries much lol :P
 
Here's an article about what I'm talking about. The research on echinacea was all fake. That guy who was the godfather of echinacea and pushing it on everyone turned out to be a fraud. He was making a ton of money off of it and lied to get rich. He was a Canadian.

science.org/content/article/star-botanist-likely-made-data-about-nutritional-supplements-new-probe-finds
Good to see
 
I do the high dose c and added elderberry cause of your advice and it works great. Anytime I feel a bit off usually one or two doses of that and I'm back to normal.

Zinc I take daily. My zinc levels always come back perfect on all my blood panels.

Olive leaf and quercetin I've never even heard of lol. I'll add be screenshotting this and adding it to my file lol
When I could find it, I had great success with injectable vitamin D
 
I do the high dose c and added elderberry cause of your advice and it works great. Anytime I feel a bit off usually one or two doses of that and I'm back to normal.

Zinc I take daily. My zinc levels always come back perfect on all my blood panels.

Olive leaf and quercetin I've never even heard of lol. I'll add be screenshotting this and adding it to my file lol
Seems like you got a good feel of these different products. Sometimes these supplements really help. Zinc is very important in our bodies for many reasons. @BeMe
 
You should be coming Alpha influencer on YouTube. They're pretty big nowadays and seriously rich. Your are THE alpha. You could get famous by out alphaing the famous alphas haha
Thanks. I'm glad that I could help you become more alpha. @BeMe if you look it up in the dictionary you'll see a picture of me on there. I'm not a big fan of the social media thing though I won't do it.
 
Yeah this is from an old injury. Other than that my teeth are fine. But yeah definitely like you said if you don't take good care of them, then you end up paying a fortune and you can get really sick too. Poor oral health is linked to heart disease
yes that is true. the bacteria will actually get in your arteries.
 
Here's an article about what I'm talking about. The research on echinacea was all fake. That guy who was the godfather of echinacea and pushing it on everyone turned out to be a fraud. He was making a ton of money off of it and lied to get rich. He was a Canadian.

science.org/content/article/star-botanist-likely-made-data-about-nutritional-supplements-new-probe-finds
@BeMe Wow. I always thought Canadians were 100% honest. I guess there are scumbags in Canada as well. I guess they're all over the world. You wouldn't think Canadians were like that.
 
I do the high dose c and added elderberry cause of your advice and it works great. Anytime I feel a bit off usually one or two doses of that and I'm back to normal.

Zinc I take daily. My zinc levels always come back perfect on all my blood panels.

Olive leaf and quercetin I've never even heard of lol. I'll add be screenshotting this and adding it to my file lol
Bro. Seemed like you got a lot of tips. i think zinc good. read it good for test levels too @BeMe
 
Quick rebuttal that Science article. It’s about alleged data fabrication in DNA barcoding and labeling work by Steven Newmaster, which deals with whats in bottles, not whether echinacea works. I read that a while back I think. @BeMe

From what I read, clinical evidence is mixed on it. The Cochrane review of randomized trials found small and uncertain treatment effects, thats true I agree. But if you read the article he didn't test to people properly in the trials imo.
Newer data shows benefit with certain Echinacea purpurea extracts, including fewer respiratory infections and lower antibiotic use in some studies.
check this
https://eurjmedres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40001-021-00499-6

If you read them, the NIH summaries land in the middle saying echinacea may reduce your chance of catching a cold. But I don't trust NIH summaries much lol :P
Interesting I'm going to give that a read.

The reason I know about all this echinacea stuff is because it was huge in Canada starting about 20 years ago. We had all kinds of cold and flu products that contained mostly echinacea. I was big into it back then, but never got any good results using it LOL. In my twenties I was very much into natural remedies, and vary against pharmaceuticals... Funny considering I ended up hooked on oxys LOL!!
 
When I could find it, I had great success with injectable vitamin D
Cool.. I would have thought someone like yourself working outside constantly would have insanely high vitamin d levels. You basically live outdoors in your work and personal life, how could you need any more?
 
not a bad idea
See bro you're one of them haha. Wi-Fi over power right lol. People can't live without their internet these days. As long as you have battery backups you can live in the dark for a while and still be comfortable. I have a pretty big commercial UPS that will power my Wi-Fi and furnace for weeks. Is Canada being so cold it's important to have heat more than anything LOL.
 
@BeMe Wow. I always thought Canadians were 100% honest. I guess there are scumbags in Canada as well. I guess they're all over the world. You wouldn't think Canadians were like that.
I think we just have a better ratio of good people to scumbags than most countries. There is an endless supply of scumbags here LOL. Come visit for Toronto and go for a drive and you'll see pretty quick. Used to be we would all let each other in or hold doors for each other. They even called it a Canadian standoff when someone wouldn't walk through the door or someone wouldn't take the opening in traffic. The old, after you, no after you, no please you first, the Canadian standoff.

Now it's a battlefield haha
 
Bro. Seemed like you got a lot of tips. i think zinc good. read it good for test levels too @BeMe
Yep very good. My TRT doc got me on the zinc and got my blood levels too a good range. Without supplementation most of us are pretty deficient in it
 
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Cool.. I would have thought someone like yourself working outside constantly would have insanely high vitamin d levels. You basically live outdoors in your work and personal life, how could you need any more?
I get pretty bad in the winter. For whatever reason I’ve never had a very high vitamin d level, despite every multi vitamin having it in there, and I have a vitamin d lamp, but it stopped working last week😣. In the summer if I’m like out on the boat half naked all the time, I feel much better. Much much better. And you can tell. My eyes are clearer. Everything is better
 
I get pretty bad in the winter. For whatever reason I’ve never had a very high vitamin d level, despite every multi vitamin having it in there, and I have a vitamin d lamp, but it stopped working last week😣. In the summer if I’m like out on the boat half naked all the time, I feel much better. Much much better. And you can tell. My eyes are clearer. Everything is better
You should take a d3/k2 supplement bro. Some of us just have poor absorption even if we're in the sun regularly.
 
Thanks. I'm glad that I could help you become more alpha. @BeMe if you look it up in the dictionary you'll see a picture of me on there. I'm not a big fan of the social media thing though I won't do it.
Yea social media isn't alpha. That's why I don't do it too. Too beta for me
 
You should take a d3/k2 supplement bro. Some of us just have poor absorption even if we're in the sun regularly.
I took so many. Didn’t seem to do anything. Vitamin D lamp works in a couple days. Injections work in like 24 hours. I haven’t gotten winter sick in years. Even when the whole office had the bat flu and we were all in the same coffee pot and stuff. First and last time I had covid was ‘21. That did suck. Next year, vitamin d injections. Never even got a cold. Year after that, I took ivermectin and had the lamp. Last year just the lamp. 🤞. If one of these approved sources could come up with injectable vitamin d I’d pay good money for it. There’s not many supplements you can feel. That’s one.
 
I took so many. Didn’t seem to do anything. Vitamin D lamp works in a couple days. Injections work in like 24 hours. I haven’t gotten winter sick in years. Even when the whole office had the bat flu and we were all in the same coffee pot and stuff. First and last time I had covid was ‘21. That did suck. Next year, vitamin d injections. Never even got a cold. Year after that, I took ivermectin and had the lamp. Last year just the lamp. 🤞. If one of these approved sources could come up with injectable vitamin d I’d pay good money for it. There’s not many supplements you can feel. That’s one.
Wow that's crazy. I take a shitload of supplements so I don't really know what's doing what anymore but I almost never get actually sick. I feel off at times but never fully sick. Never got COVID. I take a 2000iu d3/k2 supp twice a day. It's cheap and small to swallow so no real burden keeping it in there.

Sux about your vitamin d light. I sit infront of a light box every morning, not sure if it provides vitamin D tho. I do it more to keep my circadian rhythm good and keep mood up in the winter months. It's so dark in the morning this time of year on. Atleast it's daylight savings tonight here so I should head to work with some dawn light again for a bit. Yesterday heading out was like leaving in the middle of the night lol
 
It's so dark in the morning this time of year on. Atleast it's daylight savings tonight here so I should head to work with some dawn light again for a bit. Yesterday heading out was like leaving in the middle of the night lol
How shit is it lol, same here in winter leave for work in the dark and come home in the dark.. daylight saving now for us too so everything is just better and much more happier 😄
 
take a 2000iu d3/k2
Yeah, I got that in my multi anyway, so maybe it helps
Sux about your vitamin d light. I
I’m gonna fix it, maybe. It was pretty expensive and it works
Yesterday heading out was like leaving in the middle of the night lol
Yeah it’s been totally night time still when we’re starting. And night time when we wrap it up. And that’ll be my life until like April lol
 
Log Day 199

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 750mcg BPC 157, 2mg Tb500 EOD

I'm adding in the peptide list now cuz I'm basically in a healing phase and it's pretty relevant. Hopefully the peptides will help speed up this recovery of my dental implant.

It's a shame I'm gonna mark my 200th log day with time outta the gym...I miss training already and it's only day 2.

On the bright side, my recovery seriously spiked today. Major differences yesterday were a 16 hour fast and a pretty big decrease in macros. I did rest a bit too, but still went to work after my dental surgery in the morning. I'm wondering if maybe the random fast resulted in this huge change in recovery.

See below, RHR dropped, respiratory rate dropped, and HRV spiked. I would've thought my sleep would suck given all the pain and discomfort I'm in but I sleep like a baby. Didn't even wake up to pee.

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@BeMe those peptides will definitely help!
 
Interesting I'm going to give that a read.

The reason I know about all this echinacea stuff is because it was huge in Canada starting about 20 years ago. We had all kinds of cold and flu products that contained mostly echinacea. I was big into it back then, but never got any good results using it LOL. In my twenties I was very much into natural remedies, and vary against pharmaceuticals... Funny considering I ended up hooked on oxys LOL!!
I think its like time @BeMe, it's probably beneficial for ~5% of recovery or so, its not 0%, so if you add it you'll get a small boost along with all other aids you're taking @BeMe

if possible I'd like to redo your bloods this month, can you budget that in?

On the natty vs pharma, I have no dog in the game, I was drinking everclear lol :P oxys away hahaha
 
I think its like time @BeMe, it's probably beneficial for ~5% of recovery or so, its not 0%, so if you add it you'll get a small boost along with all other aids you're taking @BeMe

if possible I'd like to redo your bloods this month, can you budget that in?

On the natty vs pharma, I have no dog in the game, I was drinking everclear lol :P oxys away hahaha
I got my natty bloodwork a few weeks back. Big difference from my peak cycle panel. Everything came down nicely back in range. I should be cycling right now but this stupid dental implant messed that up. November 28th I go back for a recheck with the dental specialist and if I get the all good my first dose will be that might. Can't wait!!! @LevButlerov
 
How shit is it lol, same here in winter leave for work in the dark and come home in the dark.. daylight saving now for us too so everything is just better and much more happier 😄
Yea it's brutal in the deep of winter. Gets a bit depressing but coming home to train is always a good pick me up.

Is it ever really winter down there bro? What's the coldest it gets there?
 
Yeah, I got that in my multi anyway, so maybe it helps

I’m gonna fix it, maybe. It was pretty expensive and it works

Yeah it’s been totally night time still when we’re starting. And night time when we wrap it up. And that’ll be my life until like April lol
I probably got a couple weeks left of light.

Hopefully the temps hold out for you to get this big ass project done
 
Log Day 202

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 900mcg bpc 157 ed, 2mg tb500 EOD

Rest day 4 in the books. By the end of today this will officially be the longest time I've gone without training in over 3 years.

Sleep and recovery have been seriously on point during this time off. I think my body is making the most of this break.

I think @LevButlerov was bang on when he said these fever symptoms I'm getting are a reaction to the antibiotics. Seems to come in waves an hour to after I take the antibiotics and I get this heat cross my forehead cheeks and the tops of my ears, no other symptoms though so I don't think I'm sick.

I've been noticing my muscles look way more full all day long now. I guess it's because they're getting a break. I ate a bunch of sushi last night and before I was going to bed I looked massive compared to usual. Carbed up nicely but still kept the mid section pretty tight. Miss my training but I'm realizing how important this break is for my body. I think I've been red lining it for a bit too long.

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Yea it's brutal in the deep of winter. Gets a bit depressing but coming home to train is always a good pick me up.

Is it ever really winter down there bro? What's the coldest it gets there?
Always feel great after throwing some weights around thats guaranteed 👌

Hahaha yeah def get a winter here brother, up north it stays warm all year but have a wet season and i mean like tropical storms and flooding lol.

Down south where im from gets down into the minus Celsius. Im from the country side and it snows not to far from me every winter.
 
Log Day 202

Dose 70mg test EOD, 2iu GH pre-bed, 900mcg bpc 157 ed, 2mg tb500 EOD

Rest day 4 in the books. By the end of today this will officially be the longest time I've gone without training in over 3 years.

Sleep and recovery have been seriously on point during this time off. I think my body is making the most of this break.

I think @LevButlerov was bang on when he said these fever symptoms I'm getting are a reaction to the antibiotics. Seems to come in waves an hour to after I take the antibiotics and I get this heat cross my forehead cheeks and the tops of my ears, no other symptoms though so I don't think I'm sick.

I've been noticing my muscles look way more full all day long now. I guess it's because they're getting a break. I ate a bunch of sushi last night and before I was going to bed I looked massive compared to usual. Carbed up nicely but still kept the mid section pretty tight. Miss my training but I'm realizing how important this break is for my body. I think I've been red lining it for a bit too long.

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Good call taking the full rest stretch after 3 years straight, that recovery is really good for you :D @BeMe
The fever situation and overall feeling is all antibiotics for sure, it will pass.
 
Always feel great after throwing some weights around thats guaranteed 👌

Hahaha yeah def get a winter here brother, up north it stays warm all year but have a wet season and i mean like tropical storms and flooding lol.

Down south where im from gets down into the minus Celsius. Im from the country side and it snows not to far from me every winter.
Oh wow I never knew you guys get snow. All you Aussies always move here to snowboard but you guys come with skills already so it makes sense now.

If you go to Whistler in the winter you hear Aussie accents everywhere. It's pretty cool
 
Good call taking the full rest stretch after 3 years straight, that recovery is really good for you :D @BeMe
The fever situation and overall feeling is all antibiotics for sure, it will pass.
Yea the symptoms have lessened today. Yesterday was definitely the peak. Felt really weird last night but pretty good all day today. Just the warmth on the tips of my ears still but my face feels fine now. @LevButlerov
 
Yea the symptoms have lessened today. Yesterday was definitely the peak. Felt really weird last night but pretty good all day today. Just the warmth on the tips of my ears still but my face feels fine now. @LevButlerov
Give it time, it will settle just make sure to rest your body, antibiotics are serious stuff @BeMe
 
Give it time, it will settle just make sure to rest your body, antibiotics are serious stuff @BeMe
Yea it's been over a decade since I've taken any. I just remember not liking them or getting along with them very well. I always have a crazy immune response to stuff like this
 
I got my natty bloodwork a few weeks back. Big difference from my peak cycle panel. Everything came down nicely back in range. I should be cycling right now but this stupid dental implant messed that up. November 28th I go back for a recheck with the dental specialist and if I get the all good my first dose will be that might. Can't wait!!! @LevButlerov
Yes I remember those bloods :D I wanted to do bloods post antibiotics like 1-2 weeks @BeMe
 
Oh, why's that? The antibiotics might mess up some of my markers?
Sure possible, thats why we should check :D
 
Yea it's been over a decade since I've taken any. I just remember not liking them or getting along with them very well. I always have a crazy immune response to stuff like this
@BeMe when i've had to use anti biotics in the past i've always stacked sach boulardii with them. make sure its from a health food store and refridgerated. never buy them online.
 
Yea social media isn't alpha. That's why I don't do it too. Too beta for me
arguing with 12 year olds isn't something i have time for lol. one time i caught my daughter messaging some dude on facebook. i snuck up on here from behind and caught the conversation. not good at all. he was 28 years old and she was still a teen. i took her laptop and smashed it in half and i told her if i found the guy she was talking to i would crack his head in. she started to cry and telling me "i love him daddy!" i was pissed. stay away from social media i don''t want to see you get in the same situation @BeMe
 
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I'm not due for dull blood work til January. I don't think I can use a different service to pull bloods cuz it could cause trouble for my doctor.
Can we try at least last week december private bloods? @BeMe
 
Can we try at least last week december private bloods? @BeMe
I will say ths. I went to the doc on Friday and asked him if he could see the blood work I had done myself and it wasn't coming up on his stuff at his office. In between his blood work I had done a pre cycle and middle cycle lap results in ordered through Privatemdlabs. I went to the same place I normally order my blood for my doc at Quest Diagnostic. When I log in to my Quest account I see all of them. Just my experience. I was wanting my doc to look at them but he couldn't pull them up through his system.
 
You can also add quercetin 500mgs 2× ed for its antiviral and anti inflammatory support.
This was super interesting to read about I hadn't heard of it. @BeMe did you end up adding this in?
 
See bro you're one of them haha. Wi-Fi over power right lol. People can't live without their internet these days. As long as you have battery backups you can live in the dark for a while and still be comfortable. I have a pretty big commercial UPS that will power my Wi-Fi and furnace for weeks. Is Canada being so cold it's important to have heat more than anything LOL.
i think internet should be an essential thing like water and power. we depend on it for things like weather updates, making a living working from home, checking for pedos in the area, missing pets/people, and all kinds of things that are essential in the modern world
 
I got my natty bloodwork a few weeks back. Big difference from my peak cycle panel. Everything came down nicely back in range. I should be cycling right now but this stupid dental implant messed that up. November 28th I go back for a recheck with the dental specialist and if I get the all good my first dose will be that might. Can't wait!!! @LevButlerov
dental issues are a huge problem @BeMe It's always important to take care of our teeth. And it's also proper hygiene. You don't want to have poop breath.
 
I think we just have a better ratio of good people to scumbags than most countries. There is an endless supply of scumbags here LOL. Come visit for Toronto and go for a drive and you'll see pretty quick. Used to be we would all let each other in or hold doors for each other. They even called it a Canadian standoff when someone wouldn't walk through the door or someone wouldn't take the opening in traffic. The old, after you, no after you, no please you first, the Canadian standoff.

Now it's a battlefield haha
maybe its just that you are getting too muscular that people think you would get offended if they held it for you lol
 
I'm not due for dull blood work til January. I don't think I can use a different service to pull bloods cuz it could cause trouble for my doctor.
@BeMe I think you'll be okay, man. It's only what, 2 months away? We're already in November, so I think you'll be okay waiting a few more weeks.
 
Yep very good. My TRT doc got me on the zinc and got my blood levels too a good range. Without supplementation most of us are pretty deficient in it
bros i read zinc good for a lot of things. good for test levels for sure. i think it crucial @BeMe
 
i think internet should be an essential thing like water and power. we depend on it for things like weather updates, making a living working from home, checking for pedos in the area, missing pets/people, and all kinds of things that are essential in the modern world
It’s happening, little by little. Inside five years, you’d have to live completely off grid without even roads or mail to be unable to access internet. But honestly, the whole rural broadband government thing is a money grab and most of that infrastructure will not be used or maintained.
 
It MIGHT be that Lev is correct. Equally, you're taking those anti-biotics to treat an ailment AND still on PEDs and STILL training.

Ideally, you'd rest and recover first
Naw I'm taking time off right now @Mobster

Haven't taken a week off in over 3 years and with the antibiotics prescribed for this dental implant I thought now's as good a time as any. Giving my body a rest for a week or 2 while to let my body and the implant heal
 
@BeMe everytime I have had to take antibiotics while on gear, it has caused gyno and an elevation in BP.
Ouch no bueno. Yea I'm holding off on starting my cycle for a few weeks til I get the all clear from my dentist on implant.
 
@BeMe when i've had to use anti biotics in the past i've always stacked sach boulardii with them. make sure its from a health food store and refridgerated. never buy them online.
Ok I'll give that a go. I'm running probiotics but they're a mix and capsules. I'll hit my health food store tomorrow and check that out.
 
arguing with 12 year olds isn't something i have time for lol. one time i caught my daughter messaging some dude on facebook. i snuck up on here from behind and caught the conversation. not good at all. he was 28 years old and she was still a teen. i took her laptop and smashed it in half and i told her if i found the guy she was talking to i would crack his head in. she started to cry and telling me "i love him daddy!" i was pissed. stay away from social media i don''t want to see you get in the same situation @BeMe
Damn...that's messed up. Fukn online perverts.

Ya social media never appealed to me. I have an anonymous Facebook account to buy stuff on marketplace and thats it. This is the first forum I've been on in over 20 years lol.
 
Ok I'll give that a go. I'm running probiotics but they're a mix and capsules. I'll hit my health food store tomorrow and check that out.
Those are the super live probiotics you need to make sure the store is trusted so they never died in the bottle, very active ones :D @BeMe
 
Can we try at least last week december private bloods? @BeMe
By then I'll be back ok cycle though.

I can reach out to my doc and see if there's something I can do.

What markers would I be looking for after antibiotics?
 
i think internet should be an essential thing like water and power. we depend on it for things like weather updates, making a living working from home, checking for pedos in the area, missing pets/people, and all kinds of things that are essential in the modern world
Oh ya absolutely. I think next to water it's the most important thing to people these days
 
dental issues are a huge problem @BeMe It's always important to take care of our teeth. And it's also proper hygiene. You don't want to have poop breath.
LOL!!! No my teeth got broken when I was 18. Took a shot to the mouth. Got a root canal for 1 tooth at the time and the other they said would tighten back up and it did for the most part. My dentist said wiring injury like that it's common to have root damage you can't see that gets worse as we age.

Otherwise my teeth are fine. No poop breath lol. I'm really small about keeping my teeth clean after I learned about how much they affect our overall health
 
It’s happening, little by little. Inside five years, you’d have to live completely off grid without even roads or mail to be unable to access internet. But honestly, the whole rural broadband government thing is a money grab and most of that infrastructure will not be used or maintained.
Our government here in Ontario was set to buy 250mil worth of starlink for rural customers but cuz of Trump and Elon they backed outta the deal lol. Back to waiting of fibre lines for the rural folks
 
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