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Help with Test E and Mast E

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Jc00

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Hi Fam

I am 32

I have previously run Test E with an AI and have had good results with feeling good etc. Then cruised for a while on half dose.

Around 4 weeks ago I went back onto a blast and am now on:
Test E 600mg and Mast E 400.
This is per week. I pin twice a week.

I was feeling good the first 2-3 weeks but now I have the following symptoms:
-tired
-lower libido
-headaches
-little bit loss of strength.
-depression etc.

Is there a reason for this. Do I need to add an AI or will that make things worse? I know Mast can mask E2.
Could this be low E2 side effects?

If I was to get bloods what do I ask for?
 
Jc00 said:
High Estrogen is easy to bring down....but how do you increase it? More test?
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stop your AI and the mast. it will bounce easy

your original post is kinda mashed up so its hard for me to get a sense of what right now is in your system. but let's say your E is fine then my next step would be to simply tell you to come off everything and let your body relax. when you run these powerful hormones it stresses your body out too much, add the other stresses that you might be dealing with and that can bring a lot of these symptoms

a sick body is a tired body. that is why you see people who are sickly inside have no energy. don't just ignore your body and push through. your organs are begging for a break
 
Ok thank you for your response!

I might stop the mast and just cruise low volume on the test E as I have done for a bit.

Was wanting mast to give me a benefit dry etc.

- - - Updated - - -

I can just drop the mast right? Asking as I don't drop the test E I don't need any PCT right?
 
Once I want to blast again.....what's something else I can ad into the mix?

Goals
-loose a bit of body fat and dry up got plenty of muscle
- vasculinity
- mental health :) if possible.

I'm not really crazy for orals.
 
Jc00 said:
Once I want to blast again.....what's something else I can ad into the mix?

Goals
-loose a bit of body fat and dry up got plenty of muscle
- vasculinity
- mental health :) if possible.

I'm not really crazy for orals.
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anavar is the most mild one. domestic supply has ZPHC in stock. check them out
 
Jc00 said:
Hi Fam

I am 32

I have previously run Test E with an AI and have had good results with feeling good etc. Then cruised for a while on half dose.

Around 4 weeks ago I went back onto a blast and am now on:
Test E 600mg and Mast E 400.
This is per week. I pin twice a week.

I was feeling good the first 2-3 weeks but now I have the following symptoms:
-tired
-lower libido
-headaches
-little bit loss of strength.
-depression etc.

Is there a reason for this. Do I need to add an AI or will that make things worse? I know Mast can mask E2.
Could this be low E2 side effects?

If I was to get bloods what do I ask for?
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The ironic part is that high estrogen and low estrogen have similar sides.

I think this might be high estrogen because masteron wont lower estrogen that much.

I would do bloods to make sure, either way you should have had an AI with a testosterone cycle.

since you doing this cycle now, we need more info
Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/
top left, you see: +POST NEW THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My testosterone anavar Cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/new-cycle!-84662.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/summer-bulking-cycle-85543.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/lefr34k-s-training-log-85141.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/pigsy-s-training-log-83248.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/echos-hgh-log-cycle-85429.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/my-cycle-log-85538.html
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/anabolic-steroids-peds/dozers-journey-stage-cycle-84184.html
 
Most people need to run test and Mast about even to avoid an ai, so your estrogen is probably high. Stopping Mast will just make it worse if thats the case. Id either lower test, increase Mast, or add an ai. Maybe a combo of the first 2. Run 500/500
 
get bloods first and post and LOG
 
low estrogen if I had to guess
but get bloods and get a LOG up
 
low Estradiol imo LOG asap
 
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I will stay at 600 test E and 400mast and get bloods. Then I will post a log for sure.


Any benefit to switching from mast to primo?

Thanks everyone.
 
Do the blood test to avoid guessing game, and to be on the safe side
 
Jc00 said:
Not yet.
Had a death in the family. So just dealing with shit at the moment.
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sorry to hear about the death

we are all waiting for your updates on the bloods etc

dont give up push hard and get the cycle going
 
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