High SHBG 58nmol how to lower it?

[davetherave]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

 

[davetherave]

Running 4iu HGH 6 days a week, nothing else, never ran anything else.

I wanted to get on test causxe of my age, but natural test level is decent for my age

was thinking primo? does it affect anything? do i need to run a pct?

 

[davetherave]

Am reading proviron might lower it, can I run proviron alone and it wont affect my natural levels? am reading its not advised to run alone

 

[HarleyGuy]

Proviron @ 25mg/day will lower SHBG. You’re not “running it alone” if your test levels are naturally high. Take it for 8-12 weeks then redo and post bloods here.

No PCT necessary.

 

[davetherave]

Proviron @ 25mg/day will lower SHBG. You’re not “running it alone” if your test levels are naturally high. Take it for 8-12 weeks then redo and post bloods here.

No PCT necessary.

Thanks for the response, i kind figured that as my test levels are naturally high. Can i expect a decrease in that and may need to jump on trt after? Or should balance things out hopefully?

 

[HarleyGuy]

Thanks for the response, i kind figured that as my test levels are naturally high. Can i expect a decrease in that and may need to jump on trt after? Or should balance things out hopefully?

Your total test won’t change much on a low dose of proviron only at that low dose. Your free test will go up as your SHBG goes down. You won’t need PCT and proviron won’t shut you down in 8-12 weeks just redo bloods and report back to us.

This would be a very unique log if you wanted to start a log. An HGH with proviron for SHBG log.

I’d follow your log all day work it being so unique bro.

 

[davetherave]

Your total test won’t change much on a low dose of proviron only at that low dose. Your free test will go up as your SHBG goes down. You won’t need PCT and proviron won’t shut you down in 8-12 weeks just redo bloods and report back to us.

This would be a very unique log if you wanted to start a log. An HGH with proviron for SHBG log.

I’d follow your log all day work it being so unique bro.

Ok I will do, so daily I log what I’ve done, food training and what I’m running? Or weekly?

Thank you brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

welcome back to the EVO family! @davetherave start by sharing the bloods please.

Running 4iu HGH 6 days a week, nothing else, never ran anything else.

I wanted to get on test causxe of my age, but natural test level is decent for my age

was thinking primo? does it affect anything? do i need to run a pct?

Am reading proviron might lower it, can I run proviron alone and it wont affect my natural levels? am reading its not advised to run alone

With total test at 800 you’re in a good spot for your age, the main issue is the high SHBG binding up too much of it which explains the low drive and ED. Proviron is something guys use to help free up more test, and alongside some lifestyle changes like dropping alcohol, tightening sleep, stress management and keeping training consistent it may help, but truth is we don’t know for sure until you track it over time with bloods. Primo isn’t what you want here, and no you don’t need pct if you’re not shutting yourself down with a real cycle.

You should start a log on here with your training, diet, bloods and how you feel daily. It’ll give everyone a clearer picture and you’ll spot trends much faster, plus the feedback you’ll get will be a lot more targeted.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training and Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[stevesmi]

any anabolic steroid will lower shbg. proviron does it the best. it is also not even really a steroid, it is more like a drug.

also certain supplements lower shbg as well. look at hcgenerate which has 3,4, divanil, it is sold on ebay or n2bm

 

[ODINLABS]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

Mast e can lower it

 

[Mobster]

Am reading proviron might lower it, can I run proviron alone and it wont affect my natural levels? am reading its not advised to run alone

I've run it alongside TRT perfectly fine

 

[ceo]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

bros easy to lower shbg. why don't you log some proviron. do 10-20mgs a day

 

[ROIDDERS]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

proviron is the #1 way to lower it. get on it for 2-3 weeks then test again

 

[2Thick]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

proviron, masteron, really any dht steroid. or you can supplement

 

[Ulter]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

proviron is money in the bank. but you can also use hcgenerate as said

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like the guys got you covered

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

you should consider starting a log so we can help you better........

 

[HarleyGuy]

you should consider starting a log so we can help you better........

I second that! I'd love this to become a log.

 

[Noah Wixx]

Proviron is a workhorse compound definitely works amazing when added in

 

[25homes]

Just did bloods, everything is ok

Test is just over 800 natrual, never ran anything other than HGH

Only issue is my SHBG is fucking high at 58!!

Its been casing me issues for a few years, low sex drive, mild ED, with test at 800 i shouldnt be like this?

I am early 40s, train 3-5x a week, but this past year i havent trained much, eat my macros

Any advice wouls be great, if you need any other test readings that myight indicate what could be causing it that would be great

if theyre is anything i could take to lower it wothout afffecting anything else

Vets got you

 

[davetherave]

hey, so i ordered some proviron, its norse 50

i guess run half a tab a day?

ill start the log here once its landed, diet been a bit shit last few days, and so has training.

once it lands ill be in full swing for the log

 

[HarleyGuy]

hey, so i ordered some proviron, its norse 50

i guess run half a tab a day?

ill start the log here once its landed, diet been a bit shit last few days, and so has training.

once it lands ill be in full swing for the log

This will be a great and unique log. Follow @LevButlerov 's advice regarding a log and if you want some examples take a look at his list of some of our logs on display in his reply. If you wanna take a look at mine my template is on page 40 near the bottom or the top of page 51 of my log I don't mind if you copy my format. That is how detailed you can make it if you want to as it helps us help you even more if we know all that info. I posted one daily for two months.

You'll see the pics I post and the detail in what I did daily. How you want to work your log though is all you we're just happy to have you here and wanna see the SHBG go down!

A proviron only cycle will be mostly about your bloodwork but your training, diet, and supps would be a good start as well.

Page links below for ideas for your log:

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...nomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/page-40
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...nomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/page-51

P.S. Cut or bite those Norse 50's in half!

 

[LevButlerov]

hey, so i ordered some proviron, its norse 50

i guess run half a tab a day?

ill start the log here once its landed, diet been a bit shit last few days, and so has training.

once it lands ill be in full swing for the log

It's good you got proviron, but did you see my post? @davetherave we cant help you properly without a log. You don't need proviron to start the log, you can start asap NOW and we work our way into the proviron.

please follow instructions
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/high-shbg-58nmol-how-to-lower-it.106914/post-1844525

welcome back to the EVO family! @davetherave start by sharing the bloods please.



With total test at 800 you’re in a good spot for your age, the main issue is the high SHBG binding up too much of it which explains the low drive and ED. Proviron is something guys use to help free up more test, and alongside some lifestyle changes like dropping alcohol, tightening sleep, stress management and keeping training consistent it may help, but truth is we don’t know for sure until you track it over time with bloods. Primo isn’t what you want here, and no you don’t need pct if you’re not shutting yourself down with a real cycle.

You should start a log on here with your training, diet, bloods and how you feel daily. It’ll give everyone a clearer picture and you’ll spot trends much faster, plus the feedback you’ll get will be a lot more targeted.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training and Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[davetherave]

Ok @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy the proviron landed but will start log by this weekend latest

With low doses of proviorn can I expect hairline issues? As its a dht right? or is that only in high doses stakced wth other stuff?

thank you guys you are the best

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ok @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy the proviron landed but will start log by this weekend latest

With low doses of proviorn can I expect hairline issues? As its a dht right? or is that only in high doses stakced wth other stuff?

thank you guys you are the best

Any DHT derivative will be in the top contenders for hair loss issues mostly (but not only) if you're predisposed to it. However, all steroids will convert to DHT downstream and can lead to hair loss. For example Tren is a 19-Nor and can be one of the worst culprits. So can Anavar (a DHT) which is considered 'mild' and yes Proviron too (a DHT).

Prednisone is a corticosteroid (and harsh - my Dad takes it) and can cause hair loss as well. So the general answer to any type of steroid is yes, but proviron in particular you're slightly more likely with a straight DHT but on a low dose 25mg ED you're not pushing it to occur like running a huge cycle for example.

 

[davetherave]

Any DHT derivative will be in the top contenders for hair loss issues mostly (but not only) if you're predisposed to it. However, all steroids will convert to DHT downstream and can lead to hair loss. For example Tren is a 19-Nor and can be one of the worst culprits. So can Anavar (a DHT) which is considered 'mild' and yes Proviron too (a DHT).

Prednisone is a corticosteroid (and harsh - my Dad takes it) and can cause hair loss as well. So the general answer to any type of steroid is yes, but proviron in particular you're slightly more likely with a straight DHT but on a low dose 25mg ED you're not pushing it to occur like running a huge cycle for example.

Got you, great information thank you.

I was thinking 12.5 maybe eod or every 3 days? Keep it extremely low for 2 weeks then retest, and see where I’m at.

 

[No calves]

Ive heard on a podcast that Test is important to add in when using GH to basically to increase utilisation essentially. The guys a pro bodybuilder and medical doctor. Not sure if that helps

 

[davetherave]

Ive heard on a podcast that Test is important to add in when using GH to basically to increase utilisation essentially. The guys a pro bodybuilder and medical doctor. Not sure if that helps

My test is 800 natural, and early 40s.

Yes 1500 would be great, but I’d lose my natural production and possible hairline issues, it’s already going from age etc.

I’ve definitely noticed and increase from using 4iu instead of 3, night and day in terms of muscle mass pumps and appearance etc.

A lot of people have said to me test and anny along with gh is a great combo.

 

[davetherave]

Maybe the increased shbg is from gh use?

I had some dodgy pharma carts years ago and think that’s when a change occurred. Maybe it was hcg? Not sure if that would affect shbg, but my test hasn’t been impacted

 

[No calves]

Natural productions gona go anyway isnt it, im curious you dont seem to want to use test? But you use gh? Im sure with the right plan youd be able to utilise it effectively with little to no issues and gain more from your GH

 

[HarleyGuy]

Ive heard on a podcast that Test is important to add in when using GH to basically to increase utilisation essentially. The guys a pro bodybuilder and medical doctor. Not sure if that helps

This is true in general. Unless you're taking GH for a reason other than bodybuilding like skin, nails, or a natural 'glow' LOL or obviously if your GH is low but many know if it is.

 

[HarleyGuy]

Got you, great information thank you.

I was thinking 12.5 maybe eod or every 3 days? Keep it extremely low for 2 weeks then retest, and see where I’m at.

Yes if you cut your 50's in quarters making 12.5mg doses (use a pill cutter don't just bite it) then 12.5 eod is the lowest I've heard anyone run it so you're free to try that if you're really wanting to start low and slow and then retest. 12.5 e3d is not really gonna accomplish what you're looking for as well as eod.

 

[SPOONMAN366]

Yes if you cut your 50's in quarters making 12.5mg doses (use a pill cutter don't just bite it) then 12.5 eod is the lowest I've heard anyone run it so you're free to try that if you're really wanting to start low and slow and then retest. 12.5 e3d is not really gonna accomplish what you're looking for as well as eod.

Tablet cutters are golden,definitely get one makes life a lot easier

 

[davetherave]

Yes if you cut your 50's in quarters making 12.5mg doses (use a pill cutter don't just bite it) then 12.5 eod is the lowest I've heard anyone run it so you're free to try that if you're really wanting to start low and slow and then retest. 12.5 e3d is not really gonna accomplish what you're looking for as well as eod.

yeah i got a cutter, and will chop them into 4s, ill run eod then and see where it goes, better to start low, can always add, but cant take away

 

[davetherave]

Tablet cutters are golden,definitely get one makes life a lot easier

agreed, cheap as mick donalds and so handy

 

[HarleyGuy]

yeah i got a cutter, and will chop them into 4s, ill run eod then and see where it goes, better to start low, can always add, but cant take away

Once we see your bloods we'll know for sure.

 

[davetherave]

Once we see your bloods we'll know for sure.

i popped a qtr this morning, without logging, sorry guys.

Maybe placebo but I feel different already lol, feel hornier, younger like my test is more free, again maybe placebo haha

How long/quick does proviron kick in? I wouldve thought its pretty quick like test, not delayed like primo, creatine etc

 

[davetherave]

i popped a qtr this morning, without logging, sorry guys.

Maybe placebo but I feel different already lol, feel hornier, younger like my test is more free, again maybe placebo haha

How long/quick does proviron kick in? I wouldve thought its pretty quick like test, not delayed like primo, creatine etc

Read other places works almost immediatley....Again maybe placebo

 

[HarleyGuy]

Read other places works almost immediatley....Again maybe placebo

It works fast and leaves fast too. It can actually start working within 1-2 hours and is good to take pre-workout. It's half life is about 12 hours hence why I said e3d was not gonna work for you and continue with eod. If your bloods check out we can easily do 12.5 ED.

 

[davetherave]

It works fast and leaves fast too. It can actually start working within 1-2 hours and is good to take pre-workout. It's half life is about 12 hours hence why I said e3d was not gonna work for you and continue with eod. If your bloods check out we can easily do 12.5 ED.

Yeah I can definitely feel it’s got a short half life, definitely felt an increase that’s now subsided.

Agreed with pre workout, makes you wanna train hard. I certainly felt like I wanted to take more, very moreish.

E3d probably not enough agreed, let’s try eod do bloods and see

Definitely gives you a short increase though, thought maybe placebo but I definitely felt a response

 

[HarleyGuy]

Yeah I can definitely feel it’s got a short half life, definitely felt an increase that’s now subsided.

Agreed with pre workout, makes you wanna train hard. I certainly felt like I wanted to take more, very moreish.

E3d probably not enough agreed, let’s try eod do bloods and see

Definitely gives you a short increase though, thought maybe placebo but I definitely felt a response

You'll have to post your bloodwork and start a log at this point. I'm glad you're on the right track bro.

@LevButlerov has you squared away on page 2 with his layout for a log

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok @LevButlerov and @HarleyGuy the proviron landed but will start log by this weekend latest

With low doses of proviorn can I expect hairline issues? As its a dht right? or is that only in high doses stakced wth other stuff?

thank you guys you are the best

Low-dose proviron rarely causes hairline issues unless you’re already highly sensitive to DHT. At 25 mg daily, most users notice improved mood, hardness, and libido with little to no shedding, but if you see increased hair fall, stop and assess your response. @davetherave

Start that new log this weekend so we can track how you respond week to week. Include starting weight, compounds, and training details so feedback stays accurate once you’re a few weeks in.
Reminder how to log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/high-shbg-58nmol-how-to-lower-it.106914/post-1844525

welcome back to the EVO family! @davetherave start by sharing the bloods please.



With total test at 800 you’re in a good spot for your age, the main issue is the high SHBG binding up too much of it which explains the low drive and ED. Proviron is something guys use to help free up more test, and alongside some lifestyle changes like dropping alcohol, tightening sleep, stress management and keeping training consistent it may help, but truth is we don’t know for sure until you track it over time with bloods. Primo isn’t what you want here, and no you don’t need pct if you’re not shutting yourself down with a real cycle.

You should start a log on here with your training, diet, bloods and how you feel daily. It’ll give everyone a clearer picture and you’ll spot trends much faster, plus the feedback you’ll get will be a lot more targeted.

HOW-TO LOG?

Why is a Log Journal important?

• Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
• Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
• The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
• Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.

To really guide you we need more info from you:

• Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
• It will take 15-20 minutes max.
• We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
• Please post a Log Journal asap for us

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My Training and Diet Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle

here are examples of LOG Journals
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/sustanon-trenomast-deca-dbol-cycle-journal.105881/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/s-gentz-2025-26-growth-phase-log-with-psl.106514/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...var-bpc157-beligas-pharmaqo-cycle-log.104843/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...g-log-sponsored-by-purity-source-labs.103669/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...erone-cycle-and-beginner-training-log.106310/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/average-trt-back-to-savage-cycle-journal.106252
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-testosterone-masteron-primobolan-deca.105348
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...odybuilding-log-masters-55-competitor.102611/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ron-npp-tren-anadrol-log-to-stage-2025.102590

 

[LevButlerov]

i popped a qtr this morning, without logging, sorry guys.

Maybe placebo but I feel different already lol, feel hornier, younger like my test is more free, again maybe placebo haha

How long/quick does proviron kick in? I wouldve thought its pretty quick like test, not delayed like primo, creatine etc

Start your log asap please, we can't really have a real discussion without it @davetherave
any further answers will be in your log you post otherwise we are guessing.
see my post above
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/high-shbg-58nmol-how-to-lower-it.106914/post-1857915