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Veteran Log Mobsters Training Diary

Sunday
I don't usually post on a Sunday but it's been an interesting morning and it's not even 11am yet.

One of two (the other is brand new, made to order and due soon) Saxon Bars just arrived (see pic)

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The other was a call via FB Messenger from a fella I mentioned in the 'machines, machines, machines' thread - Keith Williams. Asking me to be an ambassador for the Xplosive Ape clothing line. Well hell yeah!! As soon as I can I'll post pics, links n codes etc

A great morning :D
 
Mobster said:
Sunday
I don't usually post on a Sunday but it's been an interesting morning and it's not even 11am yet.

One of two (the other is brand new, made to order and due soon) Saxon Bars just arrived (see pic)

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The other was a call via FB Messenger from a fella I mentioned in the 'machines, machines, machines' thread - Keith Williams. Asking me to be an ambassador for the Xplosive Ape clothing line. Well hell yeah!! As soon as I can I'll post pics, links n codes etc

A great morning :D
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hardcore bar if you ask me
 
Mobster said:
Sunday
I don't usually post on a Sunday but it's been an interesting morning and it's not even 11am yet.

One of two (the other is brand new, made to order and due soon) Saxon Bars just arrived (see pic)

View attachment 15507

The other was a call via FB Messenger from a fella I mentioned in the 'machines, machines, machines' thread - Keith Williams. Asking me to be an ambassador for the Xplosive Ape clothing line. Well hell yeah!! As soon as I can I'll post pics, links n codes etc

A great morning :D
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that is awesome, if its the Keith Williams I am thinking of.
 
g2g pro bar
 
mobster you're a true KING
 
Monday
My gym. No Kirk D. Played around with Saxon Bar during
Lever Squat
to 265kg 8 reps

Iso Leg Press
to 125kg x 9 reps

Lying Leg Curls
9p x 6+1+1+1+1+1 reps

Leg Extensions
to stack +7.5kg x 9+2 reps

** Saxon Bar
to 102.5kg 1. failed at 112.5kg and 105kg. I'll work out a program to get me to an initial 115kg

Bwt: 324lbs
 
So out comes the calculator for 1 of the challenges I set myself. One is the upcoming September 'cut'. To be followed by, in late November, a 'bulk/power' cycle. Arrived Sunday was the Saxon bar I trained with Lewis Graddon/Phillips on. The new one, by MagniGrip. arrives tomorrow. My PB was 112.5kg so I've calculated the percentages for a 7 week attack to take me to 115kg (the current WR is 132.5kg)

All 5 x 3 reps
Wk1: 60%/69kg.
Wk2: 65%/74.75kg,
Wk3: 70%/80.5kg
Wk4: 75%/86.25kg
Wk5: 80%/92kg
Wk6: 85%/97.75kg
Wk7: 90%/103.5kg
 
Mobster said:
Sunday
I don't usually post on a Sunday but it's been an interesting morning and it's not even 11am yet.

One of two (the other is brand new, made to order and due soon) Saxon Bars just arrived (see pic)

View attachment 15507

The other was a call via FB Messenger from a fella I mentioned in the 'machines, machines, machines' thread - Keith Williams. Asking me to be an ambassador for the Xplosive Ape clothing line. Well hell yeah!! As soon as I can I'll post pics, links n codes etc

A great morning :D
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Bar looks sick!!
 
Mobster said:
So out comes the calculator for 1 of the challenges I set myself. One is the upcoming September 'cut'. To be followed by, in late November, a 'bulk/power' cycle. Arrived Sunday was the Saxon bar I trained with Lewis Graddon/Phillips on. The new one, by MagniGrip. arrives tomorrow. My PB was 112.5kg so I've calculated the percentages for a 7 week attack to take me to 115kg (the current WR is 132.5kg)

All 5 x 3 reps
Wk1: 60%/69kg.
Wk2: 65%/74.75kg,
Wk3: 70%/80.5kg
Wk4: 75%/86.25kg
Wk5: 80%/92kg
Wk6: 85%/97.75kg
Wk7: 90%/103.5kg
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@Mobster i'm sure you'll beat any challenge
 
Mobster said:
So out comes the calculator for 1 of the challenges I set myself. One is the upcoming September 'cut'. To be followed by, in late November, a 'bulk/power' cycle. Arrived Sunday was the Saxon bar I trained with Lewis Graddon/Phillips on. The new one, by MagniGrip. arrives tomorrow. My PB was 112.5kg so I've calculated the percentages for a 7 week attack to take me to 115kg (the current WR is 132.5kg)

All 5 x 3 reps
Wk1: 60%/69kg.
Wk2: 65%/74.75kg,
Wk3: 70%/80.5kg
Wk4: 75%/86.25kg
Wk5: 80%/92kg
Wk6: 85%/97.75kg
Wk7: 90%/103.5kg
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104kg is a lot of weight
 
Tuesday
On a mission - let's get this done!

Seated BB Press
to 82.5kg/181lbs x 6 reps (no touch to pins)

Saxon Bar
bar (12.5kg/26lbs@) x 8 reps, 42.5kg/93.5lbs x 6 reps, 69.25kg/ 152.5lbs (as close as I could get it to the target weight - the additional load was on my RH/dominant side) x 3 (hands off / on), then 3 n/s (hands stayed on) followed by 10 reps. Easy

Bwt: 324.7lbs
 
Mobster said:
So out comes the calculator for 1 of the challenges I set myself. One is the upcoming September 'cut'. To be followed by, in late November, a 'bulk/power' cycle. Arrived Sunday was the Saxon bar I trained with Lewis Graddon/Phillips on. The new one, by MagniGrip. arrives tomorrow. My PB was 112.5kg so I've calculated the percentages for a 7 week attack to take me to 115kg (the current WR is 132.5kg)

All 5 x 3 reps
Wk1: 60%/69kg.
Wk2: 65%/74.75kg,
Wk3: 70%/80.5kg
Wk4: 75%/86.25kg
Wk5: 80%/92kg
Wk6: 85%/97.75kg
Wk7: 90%/103.5kg
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looks killer bro
 
Mobster said:
Thursday
Lower back stiff on waking. So no top set of Hammer Curls in case it pulled it
Hammer DB Curls
to 108+lbs x 2 x 10 reps @

Skull Crushers
to 79kg x 8 ugly reps

Bwt: 325lbs
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Your skull crushers always amaze me. Hopefully all good with the back.
 
I like it bro
 
Friday
That slight tweak in my back was a little better. Took a pain killer and the walk to the gym helped - as did the rows. @ Powerhouse Gym with Ken (back from hols)

Close Grip Bench Press
to 140kg/308lbs x 6, 7 and (equal to my old PB) 8 reps

s/s (during warm up sets)

Low Cable Row
Double ratio machine so...
200kg / 20 stack plates (eqv to 120kg/264lbs)

Reverse Wrist Curls
to 25kg x 10 loose-ish reps

Bwt: 327lbs (stomach bloat)
 
s.gentz said:
Love the low row.
I've been doing mine on the arsenal machine. Would highly suggest if you have one around.
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I wish. I'm not sure if any gym here in the UK has their products (ironic as to the role originally Welsh BB Flex Lewis plays in Arsenal) . If I win the lotto tonight there's a branded gym company here I'd have build me some bits of gym kit to my design. By way of example I have a low row machine in my gym which goes to 150kg/330lbs and is a single ratio cable set up. But you used to be able to buy similar machines with 450lb stacks. PowerTec has a plate loaded version which can take 500lbs... now we're talking lol

The only reason I'm doing 20 reps is cos I can. Had the stack been heavier I'd do more weight for less reps. I like to mix a back movement in not for BB reasons (feeling huge in the chest etc) but because it aids my bench press. A pumped and strong upper back is what you push off when you bench. You'll see top bench specialists do this and rear delt work. That and heavy tricep work (see Thursday)

Most gym users don't use a Low Row properly. I'll vary the handle I use - from the V type where my hands are 6-inches apart to a full length lat pulldown type bar. Today was a medium width Mag Grip type handle. No1 tip is a LITTLE forward stretch. No 2 is elbows back AND chest high.
 
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Mobster said:
I wish. I'm not sure if any gym here in the UK has their products (ironic as to the role originally Welsh BB Flex Lewis plays in Arsenal) . If I win the lotto tonight there's a branded gym company here I'd have build me some bits of gym kit to my design. By way of example I have a low row machine in my gym which goes to 150kg/330lbs and is a single ratio cable set up. But you used to be able to buy similar machines with 450lb stacks. PowerTec has a plate loaded version which can take 500lbs... now we're talking lol

The only reason I'm doing 20 reps is cos I can. Had the stack been heavier I'd do more weight for less reps. I like to mix a back movement in not for BB reasons (feeling huge in the chest etc) but because it aids my bench press. A pumped and strong upper back is what you push off when you bench. You'll see top bench specialists do this and rear delt work. That and heavy tricep work (see Thursday)

Most gym users don't use a Low Row properly. I'll vary the handle I use - from the V type where my hands are 6-inches apart to a full length lat pulldown type bar. Today was a medium width Mag Grip type handle. No1 tip is a LITTLE forward stretch. No 2 is elbows back AND chest high.
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I live hours from the nearest commercial gym, but on the other hand, I have numerous barn buildings, so I have a good bit of experience buying stuff from a lot of these places. The Arsenal stuff I have is really good, but it is no better in leverages, and worse in execution, than Watson that you guys have out there. Not cheap, but nice people to work with, and they finish projects on time, which is rare in the industry. I’d put them second only to Atlantis, which is always the best choice.
 
LittleTimeTrouble said:
I live hours from the nearest commercial gym, but on the other hand, I have numerous barn buildings, so I have a good bit of experience buying stuff from a lot of these places. The Arsenal stuff I have is really good, but it is no better in leverages, and worse in execution, than Watson that you guys have out there. Not cheap, but nice people to work with, and they finish projects on time, which is rare in the industry. I’d put them second only to Atlantis, which is always the best choice.
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My lotto dream would be a small holding with outbuildings and one as a gym. I've half an eye open for the 4 pin Watson Leg Press on marketplace
 
Watson does some clever things that others miss. Even just raising their 45 degree hyper up lets you have plenty of ROM for using a barbell, where with all the others you run out of real estate at the bottom. We don’t see a lot of their bigger pieces over here, just because of shipping costs, but their new version of the pendulum squat looks really nice as well.
 
LittleTimeTrouble said:
Watson does some clever things that others miss. Even just raising their 45 degree hyper up lets you have plenty of ROM for using a barbell, where with all the others you run out of real estate at the bottom. We don’t see a lot of their bigger pieces over here, just because of shipping costs, but their new version of the pendulum squat looks really nice as well.
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Offering more made to measure options. Their pac man line as well as thick handle dumbbell options. Not cheap but it starts to feel worthwhile
 
Mobster said:
Offering more made to measure options. Their pac man line as well as thick handle dumbbell options. Not cheap but it starts to feel worthwhile
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Obviously, you are a bigger, stronger dude than I am, but one of my favorite pieces is that Pakulski bench with the narrowed back area. Along with the obviously great ROM and biomechanics it allows for, it also makes dumbbells that are still easy to kick into position very challenging at around 10 reps since it overloads the bottom so much, where normally a challenging 10 rep bell is a pain in the ass to kick up into place.
 
LittleTimeTrouble said:
Obviously, you are a bigger, stronger dude than I am, but one of my favorite pieces is that Pakulski bench with the narrowed back area. Along with the obviously great ROM and biomechanics it allows for, it also makes dumbbells that are still easy to kick into position very challenging at around 10 reps since it overloads the bottom so much, where normally a challenging 10 rep bell is a pain in the ass to kick up into place.
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Ironically I bought a fat pad Mirafit flat bench at the beginning of Covid and we all used it and since the gyms reopened it's gathered dust. The covering is done in such a way as to 'grab' the upper back when benching. I was think of the 'pac man' adjustable angle Hack Squat
 
When I start the cut I'll run a log for that copying the info into this one. But here's what I've done so far (there's a few little bits left to do). The cut will be 4 weeks/28 days

Nutrition
I've stocked up on salmon. I've some frozen and a bunch of tinned (21 tins of 213g/approx 4oz). I've tray of frozen chicken breast and I might need a few more. I've bunch of brown and white rice. I'll be switching between that or all vegetables. The more veg I eat the less water I'll store. I'll either measure (using a cup) or weight my food which I don't do usually. I'll up my fruit a little.

Out of gym activity
I'll up my steps. I average two walks a day and over the week that comes out to 6000 a day. I'll try and up that to 8000 av a day. Less strolling along enjoying nature and more fat burning

PEDs etc
As previously discussed it's a ParaPharma Cut 150. As I've never used ANY of the AAS in the forms this comes in (Testosterone Prop 50mg/ml, Trenbolone Ace 50mg/ml, Drostanolone P (Masteron) 50mg/ml) there might be issues with either PIP (they're all shorter esters) or the tren side effects. So... I'll probably go with 1ml day 1. Just to see how I get on. The plan will then be to up it to 3x a week. I bought pins, syringes and a sharps bin from eBay and Amazon. I've a ton of stuff I can rub on my skin.

I suspect the real problems is gonna be actually pinning myself as frequently as will be required. It'll be more than I've done in the past. Then just plain being hungry lol. Followed my getting used to less carbs (esp when walking and training) and LOT cleaner diet. The pluses should be, ignoring any tren issues, just being lighter.

I'll take shirt and shorts on pics. I'm NOT (not for years) a bodybuilder but I will get (or should) leaner in my arms, forearms, quads etc. I can see separation in those now and that's with my power/ice cream belly. So seeing more muscle popping will be amazing. No1 aim is weight loss. I think 10lbs is the minimum (so an av of about 315lbs down from av of 325lbs at the mo). I'll stay on my current training prog on the saxon bar (cos that's just started) and if Tren is as good as others claim I might even see other lifts climb although, worst case, is I'll just try to maintain.

That's where I am today. Adjustments etc will be added.
 
Mobster said:
When I start the cut I'll run a log for that copying the info into this one. But here's what I've done so far (there's a few little bits left to do). The cut will be 4 weeks/28 days

Nutrition
I've stocked up on salmon. I've some frozen and a bunch of tinned (21 tins of 213g/approx 4oz). I've tray of frozen chicken breast and I might need a few more. I've bunch of brown and white rice. I'll be switching between that or all vegetables. The more veg I eat the less water I'll store. I'll either measure (using a cup) or weight my food which I don't do usually. I'll up my fruit a little.

Out of gym activity
I'll up my steps. I average two walks a day and over the week that comes out to 6000 a day. I'll try and up that to 8000 av a day. Less strolling along enjoying nature and more fat burning

PEDs etc
As previously discussed it's a ParaPharma Cut 150. As I've never used ANY of the AAS in the forms this comes in (Testosterone Prop 50mg/ml, Trenbolone Ace 50mg/ml, Drostanolone P (Masteron) 50mg/ml) there might be issues with either PIP (they're all shorter esters) or the tren side effects. So... I'll probably go with 1ml day 1. Just to see how I get on. The plan will then be to up it to 3x a week. I bought pins, syringes and a sharps bin from eBay and Amazon. I've a ton of stuff I can rub on my skin.

I suspect the real problems is gonna be actually pinning myself as frequently as will be required. It'll be more than I've done in the past. Then just plain being hungry lol. Followed my getting used to less carbs (esp when walking and training) and LOT cleaner diet. The pluses should be, ignoring any tren issues, just being lighter.

I'll take shirt and shorts on pics. I'm NOT (not for years) a bodybuilder but I will get (or should) leaner in my arms, forearms, quads etc. I can see separation in those now and that's with my power/ice cream belly. So seeing more muscle popping will be amazing. No1 aim is weight loss. I think 10lbs is the minimum (so an av of about 315lbs down from av of 325lbs at the mo). I'll stay on my current training prog on the saxon bar (cos that's just started) and if Tren is as good as others claim I might even see other lifts climb although, worst case, is I'll just try to maintain.

That's where I am today. Adjustments etc will be added.
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@Mobster can you start a new log for the cycle? I think this is a perfect training log but a cycle log would be sweet a new thread
 
@Mobster id like to see a new cutter log
 
I agree with @chesty a new cutter log thread for @Mobster would be killer with big man lifting
 
rememberTHE5 said:
Can't wait for the cut.
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sister how bout me? i get no love ever from you just cauze i texan but everyone love mobster just cause he scottish
 
ballin2504 said:
This will be great. Is this the first time you have taken tren?
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`100%. Never used Masteron either. And while I HAVE used test never prop. I actually expect to see a little strength boost. Hopefully my stomach shrinking will be the No1 difference
 
Tuesday
Usual slow as f**k after a heavy leg day but fine once warmed up. Got a nasty insect bit (from yesterday) irritating my right thigh
Side Laterals
The jump from 18.5lbs to 41.5lbs is a killer. See if I can't figure out making up a 30
to 41.5lbs x 11 reps @

Saxon Bar
to 75kg/165lbs (tgt was 74.75) x 3, 3 (both these sets were hands off and a step back each time, 3 non stop reps, 3 hands open and close reps. Last set was 10 hands on throughout reps (could have done 12). No belt etc

Bwt: 325lbs
 
cant wait to see how this goes
 
So the actual diet starts on the 1st (this Friday) and will run all of that month. But I just did the first jab. So the actual diet starts on the 1st (this Friday) and will run all of that month. But I just did the first jab. 1.5ml of PP's Cut Stack 150. So that equates to 225mg total (Testosterone P 75mg/ml, Trenbolone A 75mg/ml, Drostanolone P 75mg/ml). In smooth like a knife through hot butter. So far zero PIP. Right now the plan is 3 jabs a week but I MIGHT go to EOD (a little under 800mg a week). It'll be down to sides and or PIP
 
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Mobster said:
So the actual diet starts on the 1st (this Friday) and will run all of that month. But I just did the first jab. So the actual diet starts on the 1st (this Friday) and will run all of that month. But I just did the first jab. 1.5ml of PP's Cut Stack 150. So that equates to 225mg total (Testosterone P 75mg/ml, Trenbolone A 75mg/ml, Drostanolone P 75mg/ml). In smooth like a knife through hot butter. So far zero PIP. Right now the plan is 3 jabs a week but I MIGHT go to EOD (a little under 800mg a week). It'll be down to sides and or PIP
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@Mobster new cut log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...-parapharma-1-month-trenbolone-cut-log.90683/
 
Thursday
Arm day @ Powerhouse. 30 mins total. Huffed n puffed. Nice full pump

Alt Dumbbell Curls
10kg per x 12 reps, 15kg per x 12 reps, 20kg/44lbs (new weight on this plan) 5 x 8 reps. I work on the contraction here. Then dropped to 7.5kg/16lbs x 20 reps

s/s

Triceps on Bi/Tri machine
zero weight x 20 reps, 20kg x 12 reps, 40kg x 12 then 55kg/121lbs x 5 x 9 reps

Tricep Pressdown on Multi-angle pulley machine
stack x 20 reps

Bwt: 327.5lbs - 4 week diet starts tomorrow. Pics at the gym tomorrow
 
Friday morning
Coffee at gym. Humid and I felt sluggish (not the food etc as I literally just started lol). Trained with Ken. Slight delay waiting on Shay. Saw Kirk too. I'll be donating my other Saxon bar to the gym. I was also offered a free ticket to the Giants Live Deadlift event in Cardiff (£25000 if someone pulls 505kg) by the former IFBB Pro. Very kind but I said let someone else have it

Close Grip Bench Press
to 140kg x 3 x 7. Wanted more

s/s

DOHTBDL
to 169.5kg x 3 x 3 (ugly reps)

Wrist Roller
8.75kg x 3 x 3 (hard)

Bwt: 327.5lbs

Post workout shake @48g protein
 
Saturday
Woke at 3am. I managed to get back to sleep around 4am.

Diet: Need to up kcals (aim for 2500kcals for now) and protein (push to 180g for now)

KCals 2116 and protein 146.2. Deffo gonna eat more Sunday

Hit 8000 steps (3rd day in a row)

Sat/Sun
Woke at 2am. Took ages to drop back off. If this is 'Trensomnia' you can keep it

Sun
Another jab x 1.5ml (approx 75mg each Tren A, Test P and Mast)
 
Mobster said:
Saturday
Woke at 3am. I managed to get back to sleep around 4am.

Diet: Need to up kcals (aim for 2500kcals for now) and protein (push to 180g for now)

KCals 2116 and protein 146.2. Deffo gonna eat more Sunday

Hit 8000 steps (3rd day in a row)

Sat/Sun
Woke at 2am. Took ages to drop back off. If this is 'Trensomnia' you can keep it

Sun
Another jab x 1.5ml (approx 75mg each Tren A, Test P and Mast)
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@Mobster you need to get melatonin 5mgs and valerian root extract, take it 30min before bed and middle of night if you wake up
 
big man your size needs over 200grams of protein to lean out and you're not even close to that
 
cutting you'll need more protein to have positive nitrogen balance mobster
 
5htps
melatonin
valerian root
all 3 slam it
 
mobster im surpised a man your size is not doing high protein
 
Sunday
Food better
P237.05, 2527k
Minor tweaks. I added protein (tin of salmon) to a meal deal. Precooked some chicken breasts (4) in a bag. Still a bit hard to finish off. Needed a little more veg too (mex style mix - low cal so not an issue)

Steps: 7333. Thought I did more

Sunday/Monday
Better sleep. Usual waking up but no 2 or 3am for an hour
 
Mobster said:
Saturday
Woke at 3am. I managed to get back to sleep around 4am.

Diet: Need to up kcals (aim for 2500kcals for now) and protein (push to 180g for now)

KCals 2116 and protein 146.2. Deffo gonna eat more Sunday

Hit 8000 steps (3rd day in a row)

Sat/Sun
Woke at 2am. Took ages to drop back off. If this is 'Trensomnia' you can keep it

Sun
Another jab x 1.5ml (approx 75mg each Tren A, Test P and Mast)
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i would try some apple cider and water near bed on tren
 
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