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Then why didn't tren do that?
make sure you use proviron with nandrolone and your dick will be okay
as far as hgh if its quality no need for 3iu's.. 1iu is what i plan on using myself
as far as when to take it since your hgh rises while fasting its smart to take it right before your first meal of the day, after you eat your insulin will rise and hgh will crash. so taking exogenous hgh will keep the levels elevated at that time
as far as hgh if its quality no need for 3iu's.. 1iu is what i plan on using myself
as far as when to take it since your hgh rises while fasting its smart to take it right before your first meal of the day, after you eat your insulin will rise and hgh will crash. so taking exogenous hgh will keep the levels elevated at that time
tren is androgenic
if you react well to androgens your libido goes crazy high
nandrolone isn't androgenic very much at all as by design.
As Eddie said, 600mg of nandrolone is way way to high, not needed, not sure where those numbers come from!@donkeypunchbub great to see you back in the EVO family manwe missed you
the bloods are alright but we need to mod your supp intake and diet but thats later
on the cycle
600mgs npp is TOO high man
how about a redo?
400mgs testosterone propionate
300mgs npp
25mgs anadrol
n2guard 7caps ed organ liver support (if you have access)
you are alright with EOD injections? high PIP with prop/npp eod
HGH I think 1-2 IUs at night to start off
@AE1079 can comment as well on this
Lowering npp to 300 or even 200 will be way more beneficial if you are planning on running it. It will still give you the nitrogen retention you need and mineral retention to help synovial fluid build up within the joints, pretty much the only reason why we use nandrolone, other then it’s garbage. Better choice of steroids with way better benefits and less deleterious to health.
HGH - 1IU, your basically giving your body less then what it produces, waste of money. It’s like giving yourself 10mg test a week. You’re shooting yourself here.
2IU is better. Again I feel like it’s on the low low end for male dosing. Nothing to get out of bed for though.
3IU is an optimal starting range. You will be giving a little more then what’s produced Endogenously so you will see some benefits here. Taken at night time 1 hour before bed. You can eat and whatever you need to as we are using Exogenous methods, which does not destroy the HGH or being absorbed.
I recommend titrating up the dose every 2 weeks. Too much at once if you aren’t used to it will cause a lot of mineral retention and can be unpleasant. Especially when the fluid starts pressing on the carpal tunnel nerve causing pins and needles. Never fun. Depending on the source of GH will dictate the effect of water retention or not as some use preservatives that can cause inflammation, others have a diuretic built into it the compound to lessen this effect.
Titrate to what’s tolerable, but for average use, no more then 5IU. Everyone reacts different.
I find generics these days pretty good. Low Dimer and high purity. Absorption of the drug is quick and mixes easily which is signs of a quality product.
To address the Tren and Deca libido issue
- DHN (funny as we discussed another point around this with mood disturbances yesterday.. time for a nandrolone write up) DHN causes vasoconstriction, less blood flow to the Johnson. Some gain a stiff, then lose it
Others don’t budge
This is pronounced at high levels of DHN where your DHT and DHN balance is off and favourable of DHN, hence we don’t like to run Deca high.
DHT causes Vasodilation, allowing way better blood circulation and flow, allowing better erections. More DHT will be favoured, given that your e2 is in range so you don’t lose hair. That’s why running a Lower amount of nandrolone to test ratio will offset the effect. DHN as stated in this thread is not going to bind to ARs due to its weak affinity.
Tren - simply because it’s so androgenic, it has a high binding affinity to the AR, high sexual drive which will stimulate the penis, and because we run more test then tren in cycles (most of the time, and it should be ran this way) we have way more DHT available causing wild erections accompanied by a high sexual drive. Users also run mast with tren 99% of the time so libido and erection quality is never an issue.
Tren is an androgen and is a E strain, it is not a progesterone, but does it does come from its metabolites causing to follow prolactin up - causing e2 to go up as well. Hence why some people get a hint of gyno. Again most users run tren with mast, so it does mitigate this issue.
Awesome information brother thank you!
So I'm guessing there's no use for caber on npp cycle?!
@AE1079 for you
Nope not at all, caber is probably one of the worse things you can run. Prolactin doesn’t increase to the point of caber being needed anyway. It may move slightly but not enough to warrant the use, to be fair a lot of bloods have shown that prolactin does not increase with nandrolone use as much as say test would with E2.
Prolactin can be an issue when E2 is high. With use of a SERM, Mast, primo, EQ or a AI it will come down with E2 as they are correlated
Prolactin can be an issue when E2 is high. With use of a SERM, Mast, primo, EQ or a AI it will come down with E2 as they are correlated
bro i love tren and deca together
that is the one one day you should do
that is the one one day you should do
i've always felt that prolactin was so volatile that it didn't matter
some people are better off with caber and some aren't
some people are better off with caber and some aren't
I'm glad you're asking questions and getting answers
that's good teamwork by everybody on here
that's good teamwork by everybody on here
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