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djmac4u

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Good day,

I would like to keep this as brief as possible.
I have collected information from sticky threads and below is my understanding of what I must do for the first time.
Please read and let me know what I must change and if I have missed any recent updates/improvements etc.

I really appreciate your support and guidance.


About me:
Male, 33 years old in Canada
Weight: 60kgs
Height: 162 cm / 5 ft 4
Estimated Body Fat percentage: 14 % (I'm not sure how accurate, this is from a website using my waist circumference.)

Planned Cycle:
[table="width: 500, class: grid"]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 12[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Testosterone[/td]
[td]Test Enanthate[/td]
[td]250mg, 2 times per week[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td]
[td]Aromasin[/td]
[td]12.5mg every other day[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td]
[td]N2guard[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
*Do I need liver aid on cycle ?


PCT plan:
[table="width: 1200, class: grid"]

[tr]
[td]PCT[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr]

[td]Test Booster[/td]
[td]N2Generate ES[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Prevents fat gain[/td] [td]Cardarine[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td] [td]N2guard[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Clomiphene - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Clomid[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]tamoxifen - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Nolvadex[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]40mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]10mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td] [td]Aromasin[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]SARM[/td] [td]Ostarine[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[/table]

Workout plan:

Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press
Seated DB Shoulder Press
Lat Pulldown
Seated Cable Rows
DB Seated Bicep Curl
Cable Tricep Pushdown
Side Delt Raises

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Leg Press
Hamstring Curl
Standing Calf Raise
Cable Wood Chop

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns
BB Rows
Flat BB Bench Press
Incline DB Bench Press
Overhead Tricep Extension
DB Hammer Curl
Facepulls

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Weighted Glute Bridge
Leg Extension
Seated Calf Raise
Cable Ab Pulldown
Farmer's walk

Thank you :)
 
if your estrogen is under control (as it always should be) going into pct you will not need aromasin in pct in that case

the setup looks good

I do not see an issue with adding in an oral to kickstart things as well. anavar or tbol
 
I think so 😅. Let me request a blood test before I start.
I am still deciding if I must take oral steroids to kickstart. Will let y’all know in this log soon.

Thanks!

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RoidRage69 said:
Is the test dose 250 mg twice per week meaning 500mg per week or 250 divided into two doses?
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Sorry, 500mg per week
 
Pigsy said:
No kick start needed. For first cycle just stick with test. Also what your goals from this cycle. As your training split is a bit all over the place?
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Alright, just Test it is.

Goal is to bulk up!

I’m targeting major muscles with a focus on compound movements and some isolation movements to target smaller ones. Not my original idea, I found this from Youtube. Should I change something here?
 
How long have you been doing this current split or are you jumping straight into a cycle. I’m 41 and I do a chest/triceps back/biceps shoulders/legs split currently natural and have seen great results. Obviously depends on your overall situation with diet and sleep as well.
 
FATABO said:
How long have you been doing this current split or are you jumping straight into a cycle. I’m 41 and I do a chest/triceps back/biceps shoulders/legs split currently natural and have seen great results. Obviously depends on your overall situation with diet and sleep as well.
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It has been a month since I started this split actually. Just found it to be interesting and also I wanted to try new things. Fyi, I have been working out for the last 10 years, never taken any PEDs. This year I have one goal. To transform! 🤞
 
May not need ai,see how you respond to that test dose then utilise as needed,test only 1st cycle,you can titrate up your dose if you plateau further down the cycle,adjust and revise you training routine,come up with a better plan bro.good start but bro few adjustments but your going in the right direction.all the best
 
djmac4u said:
Good day,

I would like to keep this as brief as possible.
I have collected information from sticky threads and below is my understanding of what I must do for the first time.
Please read and let me know what I must change and if I have missed any recent updates/improvements etc.

I really appreciate your support and guidance.


About me:
Male, 33 years old in Canada
Weight: 60kgs
Height: 162 cm / 5 ft 4
Estimated Body Fat percentage: 14 % (I'm not sure how accurate, this is from a website using my waist circumference.)

Planned Cycle:
[table="width: 500, class: grid"]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 12[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Testosterone[/td]
[td]Test Enanthate[/td]
[td]250mg, 2 times per week[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td]
[td]Aromasin[/td]
[td]12.5mg every other day[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td]
[td]N2guard[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
*Do I need liver aid on cycle ?


PCT plan:
[table="width: 1200, class: grid"]

[tr]
[td]PCT[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr]

[td]Test Booster[/td]
[td]N2Generate ES[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Prevents fat gain[/td] [td]Cardarine[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td] [td]N2guard[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Clomiphene - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Clomid[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]tamoxifen - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Nolvadex[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]40mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]10mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td] [td]Aromasin[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]SARM[/td] [td]Ostarine[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[/table]

Workout plan:

Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press
Seated DB Shoulder Press
Lat Pulldown
Seated Cable Rows
DB Seated Bicep Curl
Cable Tricep Pushdown
Side Delt Raises

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Leg Press
Hamstring Curl
Standing Calf Raise
Cable Wood Chop

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns
BB Rows
Flat BB Bench Press
Incline DB Bench Press
Overhead Tricep Extension
DB Hammer Curl
Facepulls

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Weighted Glute Bridge
Leg Extension
Seated Calf Raise
Cable Ab Pulldown
Farmer's walk

Thank you :)
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welcome to the evolutionary.org family! loving your layout.

a few things on cycle you're fine, but in PCT

Ostarine only week 1-2
aromasin only week 1-3

and also for oral steroids, add 50mgs anavar for 6 weeks kick start week 1-6

start updating your diet for us, we need meals food amounts and when you eat them, AND please post a face blurred picture so we know your base
 
your training is lacking sets and reps and weights please update
 
training details needed
diet details needed
and face blurred pic
 
g2g log change pct ostarine/aromasin week 1-3 only
 
please man more diet training details for us
 
Thank you all!

Updated training with sets and reps,

[table="width: 500, class: grid"]
[tr] [td][/td] [td]Sets[/td] [td]Reps[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Upper Day 1[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Flat BB Bench Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated DB Shoulder Press[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lat Pulldown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated Cable Rows[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]DB Seated Bicep Curl[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Tricep Pushdown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Side Delt Raises[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]24 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lower Day 1[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Back Squat[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Romanian Deadlift[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Leg Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Hamstring Curl[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Standing Calf Raise[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Wood Chop[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Upper Day 2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lat Pulldowns[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Rows[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Flat BB Bench Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Incline DB Bench Press[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Overhead Tricep Extension[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]DB Hammer Curl[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Facepulls[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lower Day 2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Back Squat[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Romanian Deadlift[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Weighted Glute Bridge[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Leg Extension[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated Calf Raise[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Ab Pulldown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Farmer's walk[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]25s walk[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[/table]

Here are pictures as requested,

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I don't have a detailed plan on my diet yet. Let me work on that.
Normally I eat Chicken, Fish or Lean Beef with vegetables like beans, cabbage or eggplant. Carb intake is through white Rice, wheat or potatoes.
I'm also using Pea Protein Powder to make smoothies when I'm in a rush. I know this is not the way to track diet but please bear with me while I prepare the full list.

If someone can clear this up for me please?
1) Do I need Liver aid during cycle if I am not taking oral steroids?
2) For PCT, you had suggested changing schedule for Ostarine and AI as below,
Ostarine 25mg/day for week 1 and 2. Stops after week 2
Aromasin 12.5mg/day for week 1,2 and 3. Stops after week 3.
Did I get this right?
 
djmac4u said:
Good day,

I would like to keep this as brief as possible.
I have collected information from sticky threads and below is my understanding of what I must do for the first time.
Please read and let me know what I must change and if I have missed any recent updates/improvements etc.

I really appreciate your support and guidance.


About me:
Male, 33 years old in Canada
Weight: 60kgs
Height: 162 cm / 5 ft 4
Estimated Body Fat percentage: 14 % (I'm not sure how accurate, this is from a website using my waist circumference.)

Planned Cycle:
[table="width: 500, class: grid"]
[tr]
[td][/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 12[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Testosterone[/td]
[td]Test Enanthate[/td]
[td]250mg, 2 times per week[/td]
[/tr]

[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td]
[td]Aromasin[/td]
[td]12.5mg every other day[/td]
[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td]
[td]N2guard[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[/tr]
[/table]
*Do I need liver aid on cycle ?


PCT plan:
[table="width: 1200, class: grid"]

[tr]
[td]PCT[/td]
[td][/td]
[td]Week 1 to 2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]6[/td]
[td]7[/td]
[td]8[/td][/tr]

[tr]

[td]Test Booster[/td]
[td]N2Generate ES[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]
[td]5 caps per day[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Prevents fat gain[/td] [td]Cardarine[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Liver Aid[/td] [td]N2guard[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]7 caps per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Clomiphene - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Clomid[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]50mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]tamoxifen - anti estrogen[/td] [td]Nolvadex[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]40mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]20mg per day[/td] [td]10mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]Aromatase Inhibitor (AI)[/td] [td]Aromasin[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]7.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[tr]
[td]SARM[/td] [td]Ostarine[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]25mg per day[/td] [td]12.5mg per day[/td] [td]None[/td] [td]None[/td]

[/tr]
[/table]

Workout plan:

Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press
Seated DB Shoulder Press
Lat Pulldown
Seated Cable Rows
DB Seated Bicep Curl
Cable Tricep Pushdown
Side Delt Raises

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Leg Press
Hamstring Curl
Standing Calf Raise
Cable Wood Chop

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns
BB Rows
Flat BB Bench Press
Incline DB Bench Press
Overhead Tricep Extension
DB Hammer Curl
Facepulls

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat
BB Romanian Deadlift
Weighted Glute Bridge
Leg Extension
Seated Calf Raise
Cable Ab Pulldown
Farmer's walk

Thank you :)
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great start bro
 
Yes you always need liver aid. I take it 5 caps when off and 7-10 when on depending on what cycle I’m running
 
djmac4u said:
Thank you all!

Updated training with sets and reps,

[table="width: 500, class: grid"]
[tr] [td][/td] [td]Sets[/td] [td]Reps[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Upper Day 1[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Flat BB Bench Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated DB Shoulder Press[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lat Pulldown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated Cable Rows[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]DB Seated Bicep Curl[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Tricep Pushdown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Side Delt Raises[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]24 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lower Day 1[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Back Squat[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Romanian Deadlift[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Leg Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Hamstring Curl[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Standing Calf Raise[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Wood Chop[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Upper Day 2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lat Pulldowns[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Rows[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Flat BB Bench Press[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Incline DB Bench Press[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Overhead Tricep Extension[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]DB Hammer Curl[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Facepulls[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Lower Day 2[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Back Squat[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]6-8[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]BB Romanian Deadlift[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Weighted Glute Bridge[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]8-10[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Leg Extension[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Seated Calf Raise[/td] [td]4[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Cable Ab Pulldown[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]10-12[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]Farmer's walk[/td] [td]3[/td] [td]25s walk[/td] [/tr]
[tr] [td]48 Hour Rest[/td] [td][/td] [td][/td] [/tr]
[/table]

Here are pictures as requested,

View attachment 15411View attachment 15412View attachment 15413

I don't have a detailed plan on my diet yet. Let me work on that.
Normally I eat Chicken, Fish or Lean Beef with vegetables like beans, cabbage or eggplant. Carb intake is through white Rice, wheat or potatoes.
I'm also using Pea Protein Powder to make smoothies when I'm in a rush. I know this is not the way to track diet but please bear with me while I prepare the full list.

If someone can clear this up for me please?
1) Do I need Liver aid during cycle if I am not taking oral steroids?
2) For PCT, you had suggested changing schedule for Ostarine and AI as below,
Ostarine 25mg/day for week 1 and 2. Stops after week 2
Aromasin 12.5mg/day for week 1,2 and 3. Stops after week 3.
Did I get this right?
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on the training, you need to give us weights of training every few days so we can see if you getting stronger or weaker etc, like romanian deadlift 250lb x 8 reps (lbs or kg add) as you go not generic 1 day

on the diet, we need to plan it a lot

first start with diet by laying out what you're eating NOW, like time and food and what you eat, start writing it down. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
its best to modify an existing diet imo

answers
1) yes you need organ liver support even without oral steroids, like n2guard. Steroids go thru liver even when just injected.

2) week 1-2 pct 12.5mgs ostarine/day not 25mgs
and aromasin stops week 2 not week 3
 
organ support 100% required get n2guard or you'll have health issues
you need to keep training weights up and updated and diet needs more
 
lets start by you logging your diet first lets see you eating
 
g2g log we can help you transform but need your diet as a base
 
write down what you eat and post it, you have high bodyfat but we can help you improve that with work
 
respect for you being open and sharing but for real change we need you to lay out all the details
 
keep at it bro following
 
Hello all,
I have not started my cycle yet because I'm anticipating a move/job change in coming months. However, I consulted a nutritionist and came up with a diet plan which I am sharing here.
Thank you!

Diet 1.webp
Diet 2.webp

weight.webp


Workout.webp
 
djmac4u said:
Hello all,
I have not started my cycle yet because I'm anticipating a move/job change in coming months. However, I consulted a nutritionist and came up with a diet plan which I am sharing here.
Thank you!

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@djmac4u well good start but the training is in an excel right? can you export it in text for us?

diet is HORRIBLE high carbs low protein, very bad diet bro who put this together for you?
should be higher protein and lower carbs
 
this is a diet to get fat not muscle gains
 
g2g to see you back but NOT g2g with your horrible diet
 
and old lady would do well on this diet dude
 
Alright, I will scrap this diet. My previous diet was worse than this to be honest. I will post that log tomorrow.

@Eddie, Yes, I will update the training in text format.
 
djmac4u said:
Alright, I will scrap this diet. My previous diet was worse than this to be honest. I will post that log tomorrow.

@Eddie, Yes, I will update the training in text format.
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@djmac4u maybe better but it's a really bad diet. You need to go over 200grams of protein and under 150grams of carbs plan that out backwards into meals.
 
1. No you don't need liver support on a moderate test only cycle.

2. Whats with the diet? Are you running a cycle to bulk and gain muscle? Or are you cutting.

You will need to eat more.

Your macro split is fine. But you need to up the cals.
 
HybridLabs said:
1. No you don't need liver support on a moderate test only cycle.

2. Whats with the diet? Are you running a cycle to bulk and gain muscle? Or are you cutting.

You will need to eat more.

Your macro split is fine. But you need to up the cals.
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@HybridLabs while you make some valid points, other points aren't based on science.

1) You do need liver support, moderate testosterone dose or not (btw he said he's not even cycling), organ and liver support is a must when using something like anabolic steroids. Steroids are toxic even at TRT doses, but, to be fair, eating too many charburgers or drinking from plastic water bottles is also toxic. Therein is the positives of being a bodybuilder, we have the supplements like TUDCA Milk thistle and more to combat our possible side effects.

Studies have show anabolic steroids, even injectables can potentially cause liver, organ injury.

AAS use is closely linked to hepatotoxicity and serious hepatic conditions such as cholestasis, peliosis hepatis, and benign and malignant hepatic tumors, as well as steatohepatitis and dyslipidemia with multiple studies supporting a causal association
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331524/

Androgenic and anabolic steroids have been implicated in four distinct forms of liver injury: transient serum enzyme elevations, an acute cholestatic syndrome (“bland cholestasis”), chronic vascular injury to the liver (peliosis hepatis) and hepatic tumors including adenomas and hepatocellular carcinoma
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548931/#:~:text=Hepatotoxicity,including adenomas and hepatocellular carcinoma

Most important part of study:
These adverse events have been most closely linked with the C-17α alkylated testosterones, although tumors have also been associated with unmodified and esterified testosterone preparations.
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2) On the diet angle, we agree completely. His low protein diet is unacceptable to someone trying to prepare for a cycle.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-first-test-cycle-log.90336/page-3#post-1372516
 
LevButlerov said:
@HybridLabs while you make some valid points, other points aren't based on science.

1) You do need liver support, moderate testosterone dose or not (btw he said he's not even cycling), organ and liver support is a must when using something like anabolic steroids. Steroids are toxic even at TRT doses, but, to be fair, eating too many charburgers or drinking from plastic water bottles is also toxic. Therein is the positives of being a bodybuilder, we have the supplements like TUDCA Milk thistle and more to combat our possible side effects.

Studies have show anabolic steroids, even injectables can potentially cause liver, organ injury.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331524/


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548931/#:~:text=Hepatotoxicity,including adenomas and hepatocellular carcinoma

Most important part of study:


2) On the diet angle, we agree completely. His low protein diet is unacceptable to someone trying to prepare for a cycle.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-first-test-cycle-log.90336/page-3#post-1372516
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Totally agree. I think any time you are using things that are hard on your body, in one way or another, the only responsible course of action is to take countermeasures to mitigate the damage you are doing. We are trying to do win the long game, not the short game. I was a little skeptical of TUDCA, but being on it for a few months dropped my ALT and AST from high normal to low normal. I was extremely pleased.

The macros look exactly as I would expect from a nutritionist. They aren’t going to help or hurt to any great degree. I think it is odd that anybody would suggest to have added sugar to a diet. Whether you are a high or low carb type person, I think most people agree that getting your sugars naturally is way better than adding them.
 
I'd like to clarify few things.
1. I have not started the test cycle yet. It is on hold till I finalize my job change.
2. I did not start following the nutritionist diet yet. She made a suggestion that I am losing muscle mass because my carb intake was low and my body was trying to make energy out of the proteins.

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Some members of this forum asked me to post what I was already eating on a daily basis to help me build a diet around it. So here it is,

Day 1
11:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Pea Protein 25g
Banana 95g
Blueberries 65g
Oat milk 168g
Walnut 1 piece
Creatine 5g

12:00 PM
Meal 2 - Omlette
Mushroom 42g
Onion 20g
Egg White 76g

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Flat bread 80g
Ground Beef 110g
Veggies(cabbage,cucumber) 1cup

8:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
2 Pork Tacos with no cheese (takeout)

Day 2
9:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 108g
Blueberry 45g
Peanut Butter 14g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g

11:00 AM
Meal 2 - Omlette
1 Egg White, 1 whole egg
Mushrooms 100

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Ground Beef 110g
Cauliflower and Plantain 1 cup

7:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Ground Beef 108g
Cauliflower, Cucumber, Plantain 1 cup

Day 3
10:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 84g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g
walnut 1/4 piece
carrot 35g

1:00 PM
Meal 2 - Lunch
Takeout - Chicken 80g, quinoa and veggies

5:30 PM
Meal 3 - 2 egg Omlette

9:40 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Plantain 41g
Flat bread 1
Ground beef 110g

And @Eddie Haskell, here's the text format.
I appreciate everybody's input!

Sets Reps Weights
Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Seated DB Shoulder Press 4 8-10 25, 27.5, 30, 30 lbs
Lat Pulldown 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
Seated Cable Rows 4 8-10 85, 90, 95, 95 lbs
DB Seated Bicep Curl 3 10-12 20, 25, 30 lbs
Cable Tricep Pushdown 3 10-12 20, 22.3, 25 lbs
Side Delt Raises 4 10-12 17.5, 20, 20 lbs
24 Hour Rest

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Leg Press 3 8-10 90, 110, 140 lbs
Hamstring Curl 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 25(one leg) lbs
Standing Calf Raise 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 70 lbs
Cable Wood Chop 3 10-12 resistance level 15, 15.5, 16
48 Hour Rest

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
BB Rows 4 8-10 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Incline DB Bench Press 4 8-10 60, 60, 70, 75 lbs
Overhead Tricep Extension 3 10-12 40, 45, 50 lbs
DB Hammer Curl 3 10-12 25, 27.5, 30 lbs
Facepulls 4 10-12 55, 60, 65, 70 lbs
48 Hour Rest

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Weighted Glute Bridge 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Leg Extension 3 10-12 60, 65, 70 lbs
Seated Calf Raise 4 10-12 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Cable Ab Pulldown 3 10-12 130, 140, 145 lbs
Farmer's walk 3 25s walk 28, 40, 48 lbs
48 Hour Rest
 
Mobster said:
Why are you doing more weight on pulldowns than squats?
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I trained less on squats/lower back in the early days because I just couldn't. In 2020, the doctors diagnosed the cause of lower back pain as spinal tuberculosis. I took antibiotics for 10 months to recover. Infection is gone but the damage to my spine is permanent. This is the maximum I can squat now without shaking : )
 
djmac4u said:
I trained less on squats/lower back in the early days because I just couldn't. In 2020, the doctors diagnosed the cause of lower back pain as spinal tuberculosis. I took antibiotics for 10 months to recover. Infection is gone but the damage to my spine is permanent. This is the maximum I can squat now without shaking : )
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That makes sense. Might the hip belt machine be ok? It loads to the hips
 
Not sure your nutritionist knows what they are doing
 
bro get your protein up over 200g and take in clean carbs you will grow
 
djmac4u said:
. She made a suggestion that I am losing muscle mass because my carb intake was low and my body was trying to make energy out of the proteins.
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where did this nutritionist get her degree from a cereal box? does she think muscle mass should count as water retention?
 
djmac4u said:
I'd like to clarify few things.
1. I have not started the test cycle yet. It is on hold till I finalize my job change.
2. I did not start following the nutritionist diet yet. She made a suggestion that I am losing muscle mass because my carb intake was low and my body was trying to make energy out of the proteins.

View attachment 15610 View attachment 15611


Some members of this forum asked me to post what I was already eating on a daily basis to help me build a diet around it. So here it is,

Day 1
11:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Pea Protein 25g
Banana 95g
Blueberries 65g
Oat milk 168g
Walnut 1 piece
Creatine 5g

12:00 PM
Meal 2 - Omlette
Mushroom 42g
Onion 20g
Egg White 76g

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Flat bread 80g
Ground Beef 110g
Veggies(cabbage,cucumber) 1cup

8:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
2 Pork Tacos with no cheese (takeout)

Day 2
9:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 108g
Blueberry 45g
Peanut Butter 14g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g

11:00 AM
Meal 2 - Omlette
1 Egg White, 1 whole egg
Mushrooms 100

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Ground Beef 110g
Cauliflower and Plantain 1 cup

7:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Ground Beef 108g
Cauliflower, Cucumber, Plantain 1 cup

Day 3
10:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 84g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g
walnut 1/4 piece
carrot 35g

1:00 PM
Meal 2 - Lunch
Takeout - Chicken 80g, quinoa and veggies

5:30 PM
Meal 3 - 2 egg Omlette

9:40 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Plantain 41g
Flat bread 1
Ground beef 110g

And @Eddie Haskell, here's the text format.
I appreciate everybody's input!

Sets Reps Weights
Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Seated DB Shoulder Press 4 8-10 25, 27.5, 30, 30 lbs
Lat Pulldown 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
Seated Cable Rows 4 8-10 85, 90, 95, 95 lbs
DB Seated Bicep Curl 3 10-12 20, 25, 30 lbs
Cable Tricep Pushdown 3 10-12 20, 22.3, 25 lbs
Side Delt Raises 4 10-12 17.5, 20, 20 lbs
24 Hour Rest

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Leg Press 3 8-10 90, 110, 140 lbs
Hamstring Curl 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 25(one leg) lbs
Standing Calf Raise 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 70 lbs
Cable Wood Chop 3 10-12 resistance level 15, 15.5, 16
48 Hour Rest

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
BB Rows 4 8-10 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Incline DB Bench Press 4 8-10 60, 60, 70, 75 lbs
Overhead Tricep Extension 3 10-12 40, 45, 50 lbs
DB Hammer Curl 3 10-12 25, 27.5, 30 lbs
Facepulls 4 10-12 55, 60, 65, 70 lbs
48 Hour Rest

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Weighted Glute Bridge 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Leg Extension 3 10-12 60, 65, 70 lbs
Seated Calf Raise 4 10-12 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Cable Ab Pulldown 3 10-12 130, 140, 145 lbs
Farmer's walk 3 25s walk 28, 40, 48 lbs
48 Hour Rest
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@djmac4u your nutritionist is very bad. high protein = positive nitrogen balance = muscle gains, Carbs aren't related directly to muscle gains, but protein is.

@djmac4u your diet now is moderate protein high carbs and not enough healthy fats.
you should replace pea protein with egg or milk protiens
cut carbs at night and increase protein
 
start by cuttin carbs and adding protein
 
get a new coach we can help you
go with high protein higher fats too
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@djmac4u your nutritionist is very bad. high protein = positive nitrogen balance = muscle gains, Carbs aren't related directly to muscle gains, but protein is.

@djmac4u your diet now is moderate protein high carbs and not enough healthy fats.
you should replace pea protein with egg or milk protiens
cut carbs at night and increase protein
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Indirectly for sure. Your body can use protein for energy
 
djmac4u said:
I'd like to clarify few things.
1. I have not started the test cycle yet. It is on hold till I finalize my job change.
2. I did not start following the nutritionist diet yet. She made a suggestion that I am losing muscle mass because my carb intake was low and my body was trying to make energy out of the proteins.

View attachment 15610 View attachment 15611


Some members of this forum asked me to post what I was already eating on a daily basis to help me build a diet around it. So here it is,

Day 1
11:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Pea Protein 25g
Banana 95g
Blueberries 65g
Oat milk 168g
Walnut 1 piece
Creatine 5g

12:00 PM
Meal 2 - Omlette
Mushroom 42g
Onion 20g
Egg White 76g

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Flat bread 80g
Ground Beef 110g
Veggies(cabbage,cucumber) 1cup

8:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
2 Pork Tacos with no cheese (takeout)

Day 2
9:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 108g
Blueberry 45g
Peanut Butter 14g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g

11:00 AM
Meal 2 - Omlette
1 Egg White, 1 whole egg
Mushrooms 100

2:00 PM
Meal 3 - Lunch
Ground Beef 110g
Cauliflower and Plantain 1 cup

7:00 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Ground Beef 108g
Cauliflower, Cucumber, Plantain 1 cup

Day 3
10:00 AM
Meal 1 - smoothie
Banana 84g
Pea Protein 28g
Creatine 5g
walnut 1/4 piece
carrot 35g

1:00 PM
Meal 2 - Lunch
Takeout - Chicken 80g, quinoa and veggies

5:30 PM
Meal 3 - 2 egg Omlette

9:40 PM
Meal 4 - Supper
Plantain 41g
Flat bread 1
Ground beef 110g

And @Eddie Haskell, here's the text format.
I appreciate everybody's input!

Sets Reps Weights
Upper Day 1
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Seated DB Shoulder Press 4 8-10 25, 27.5, 30, 30 lbs
Lat Pulldown 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
Seated Cable Rows 4 8-10 85, 90, 95, 95 lbs
DB Seated Bicep Curl 3 10-12 20, 25, 30 lbs
Cable Tricep Pushdown 3 10-12 20, 22.3, 25 lbs
Side Delt Raises 4 10-12 17.5, 20, 20 lbs
24 Hour Rest

Lower Day 1
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Leg Press 3 8-10 90, 110, 140 lbs
Hamstring Curl 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 25(one leg) lbs
Standing Calf Raise 4 10-12 60, 65, 70, 70 lbs
Cable Wood Chop 3 10-12 resistance level 15, 15.5, 16
48 Hour Rest

Upper Day 2
Lat Pulldowns 3 8-10 90, 100, 110 lbs
BB Rows 4 8-10 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Flat BB Bench Press 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Incline DB Bench Press 4 8-10 60, 60, 70, 75 lbs
Overhead Tricep Extension 3 10-12 40, 45, 50 lbs
DB Hammer Curl 3 10-12 25, 27.5, 30 lbs
Facepulls 4 10-12 55, 60, 65, 70 lbs
48 Hour Rest

Lower Day 2
BB Back Squat 3 6-8 50, 60, 70 lbs
BB Romanian Deadlift 3 8-10 40, 50, 60 lbs
Weighted Glute Bridge 3 8-10 50, 60, 70 lbs
Leg Extension 3 10-12 60, 65, 70 lbs
Seated Calf Raise 4 10-12 40, 50, 60, 70 lbs
Cable Ab Pulldown 3 10-12 130, 140, 145 lbs
Farmer's walk 3 25s walk 28, 40, 48 lbs
48 Hour Rest
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nice update here
 
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