I think I just lost myself abit. Covid then Kids came along. Normally competitive person. Stopped playing team sports, then missed the gym, kids were sick was running on fumes. Started to hate the way I looked in the mirror knowing I was going backwards, giving everything I could have of me to everyone else and left no love or attention on myself.Any idea, what was causing your prior and depression? Just curious. If it was just something that happened in life.
Proud of you man ! Well done for getting out there and doing things that make you feel better. They are so quick to prescribe antidepressants instead of looking at overall health in general !I think I just lost myself abit. Covid then Kids came along. Normally competitive person. Stopped playing team sports, then missed the gym, kids were sick was running on fumes. Started to hate the way I looked in the mirror knowing I was going backwards, giving everything I could have of me to everyone else and left no love or attention on myself.
Groundhog days.
Drs gave me antidepressants which subsided my aggression / resentment . Which was effecting my marriage .
I ended up cold turkey the antidepressants and implemented some sports TRT and forced myself to the gym again Dec 2023 after best part of 5 years off,
Now marriage is better, I’m happier , less snappy now even on tren than I was before
that happened to many of us, COVID really messed up my situation as well.I think I just lost myself abit. Covid then Kids came along. Normally competitive person. Stopped playing team sports, then missed the gym, kids were sick was running on fumes. Started to hate the way I looked in the mirror knowing I was going backwards, giving everything I could have of me to everyone else and left no love or attention on myself.
Groundhog days.
Drs gave me antidepressants which subsided my aggression / resentment . Which was effecting my marriage .
I ended up cold turkey the antidepressants and implemented some sports TRT and forced myself to the gym again Dec 2023 after best part of 5 years off,
Now marriage is better, I’m happier , less snappy now even on tren than I was before
shoulders and arms are looking much biggerShoulders
Matrix shoulder press machine.
Alternating/ supersetting between forward facing press standard press to reverse facing position neutral grip press
36kg x 12 / 12
54kg x 18 / 12
73kg x 15 / 8
77kg x 12 / 8
77kg x 10 / 5
Dumbbell lateral raises
12.5kg x 16
15kg x 14
15kg x 12
15kg x 11
Cable cross over rear delt overhead
8.75kg x 14
8.75kg x 12
8.75kg x 12
Behind the body straight bar upright row cable .
(Mid Hamstring to above waist line)
25kg x 16
32.5kg x 16
32.5kg x 14
Smith machine upright row
40kg x 14
40kg x 12
40kg x 11
Dumbbell front raise . Single dumbbell underhand grip /palms up under each side of dumbbell. Seated Leaning slightly forward - legs apart
15kg x 15
17.5kg x 16
17.5kg x 15
17.5kg x 14
Flexed arm hang into straight leg raises
Holding at top position of neutral chin up. Ankles touching controlling movement.
13
9
7
Great gains brother
Thanks brosshoulders and arms are looking much bigger@Trenhead3cc I like the pump work.
Cant wait until you level upThanks bros
Knowing who you want to be and doing what needs to be done to stay on the direction, that’s champion mentality right there brother!I think I just lost myself abit. Covid then Kids came along. Normally competitive person. Stopped playing team sports, then missed the gym, kids were sick was running on fumes. Started to hate the way I looked in the mirror knowing I was going backwards, giving everything I could have of me to everyone else and left no love or attention on myself.
Groundhog days.
Drs gave me antidepressants which subsided my aggression / resentment . Which was effecting my marriage .
I ended up cold turkey the antidepressants and implemented some sports TRT and forced myself to the gym again Dec 2023 after best part of 5 years off,
Now marriage is better, I’m happier , less snappy now even on tren than I was before
thanks bro. -appreciate it!Knowing who you want to be and doing what needs to be done to stay on the direction, that’s champion mentality right there brother!
Keen as aswell! Always trying to level upCant wait until you level up![]()
Antidepressants are helping no one, my experience they make the situation worse, good you're off.Drs gave me antidepressants which subsided my aggression / resentment . Which was effecting my marriage .
I ended up cold turkey the antidepressants and implemented some sports TRT and forced myself to the gym again Dec 2023 after best part of 5 years off,
100 percent. People could see the change in me. I was like a zombie. I may of experienced less lows but I never got and highs.Antidepressants are helping no one, my experience they make the situation worse, good you're off.![]()
Seems they really mess up the dopamine and seratonin in the brain thats the issue.100 percent. People could see the change in me. I was like a zombie. I may of experienced less lows but I never got and highs.
Drs are quick to hand these out. Secret needs to be looked into lifestyle changes not medication
Honestly think Tren is less damaging hahaSeems they really mess up the dopamine and seratonin in the brain thats the issue.
Actually thats a fact. I believe most tren sides come from being unprepared for sides.Honestly think Tren is less damaging haha
Yeh bro, pretty on top of the Tren with those dot points, I meant the sides of antidepressants worse on my brain than tren is.Actually thats a fact. I believe most tren sides come from being unprepared for sides.
Trenbolone mitigation is like this:
I found these mitigate pretty much all sides with tren.
- small doses EOD microdosing
- using organ liver cycle support like n2guard or something you have local
- using cardio support like cardarine gw
- medium carbs medium protein diet
- minimum 1 hour at the gym with 40min cardio
- balance with another steroid like testosterone
- use anti-prolactin aids like dostinex (cabergoline)
@Trenhead3cc looking good bro!Here is a 12 month comparison photo
I had 5 years off fitness and gym, developed depression and borderline alcoholism
I’m angry daily at myself for wasting those years, but I’m also so grateful and happy to have found my way again both through my local friends, my online sponsor and team. Along with the wider community on EF and Evo
Onwards and upwards now. We aren’t stopping![]()
this is well said, trenbolone is the new antidepressant broYeh bro, pretty on top of the Tren with those dot points, I meant the sides of antidepressants worse on my brain than tren is.
I'm telling my wife this.this is well said, trenbolone is the new antidepressant bro![]()
Can agree to this !As i get older i realize every opportunity, setback or otherwise was a stepping stone to betterment of myself mind and body.
dont tell her bro , just pin it and look happyI'm telling my wife this.![]()
Still a decent workout though bro! Stiff gig on the back mate, I had similar thing coming into Christmas that slowed me down. Do what you can bro without aggregating it further.In 6am
Out 650am
Note - some lower back pain
4-5hours shit sleep. Fasted
Will hit legs again with squats later in the week just had to get in a workout despite the lack of sleep and lower back pain
Leg extensions matrix
39kg x 20
66kg x 16
86kg x 12
86kg x 12
86kg x 10
Prone leg curl
36kg x 18
50kg x 12
50kg x 12
50kg x 11
Precor hack squat
60kg x 18
100kg x 12
100kg x 10
100kg x 9
Standing calf raises
125kg x 20
125kg x 18
125kg x 14
125kg x 12
do you have the full bloods to share please bro? just blur personal info @Trenhead3ccBloods from the test on 5th December
At the time - bigboylabs
500 test per week
400 eq per week
400 primo per week
Rather than send everything through.
e2 at 51
My full bloods examination were all in range
Lipids were a bit shit but an improvement from last cycle , on better cycle supports - these are very important .
In 6am
Out 650am
Note - some lower back pain
4-5hours shit sleep. Fasted
Will hit legs again with squats later in the week just had to get in a workout despite the lack of sleep and lower back pain
Leg extensions matrix
39kg x 20
66kg x 16
86kg x 12
86kg x 12
86kg x 10
Prone leg curl
36kg x 18
50kg x 12
50kg x 12
50kg x 11
Precor hack squat
60kg x 18
100kg x 12
100kg x 10
100kg x 9
Standing calf raises
125kg x 20
125kg x 18
125kg x 14
125kg x 12
training up top max out bro the smith bench high volume i likeChest training
Quicker session this morning
Ran out of time.
Dropped the tbol out of the cycle. Lasted 4.5 weeks . Just giving the liver a break with the added tren feeling now somewhat saturated.
Tren E added at Xmas.
Chest flys decline standing - back supported
25kg x 12
25kg x 12
25kg x 18
35kg x 14
35kg x 13
Incline smith bench
50kg x 16
70kg x 12
80kg x 9
80kg x 7
50kg x 12
standing incline front raises palms up - cable. Standing far forward weight starting behind you (weight per side)
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 10
Decline cable press
Weight per side
21.25kg x 16
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
Absolutely. Look at N2GuardBloods from the test on 5th December
At the time - bigboylabs
500 test per week
400 eq per week
400 primo per week
Rather than send everything through.
e2 at 51
My full bloods examination were all in range
Lipids were a bit shit but an improvement from last cycle , on better cycle supports - these are very important .
I got some good stuff at the moment, N2guard not in AUs wish it was.Absolutely. Look at N2Guard
decent results!!Bloods from the test on 5th December
At the time - bigboylabs
500 test per week
400 eq per week
400 primo per week
Rather than send everything through.
e2 at 51
My full bloods examination were all in range
Lipids were a bit shit but an improvement from last cycle , on better cycle supports - these are very important .
I did plan to donate bloods as my bloods taken before adding Tren. But all my bloods were in rangegive blood BEFORE you start your tren cycle. don't do it during Because you will dehydrate yourself, potentially.
Rows with the straight arm pull downs good mix up and your reps are perfect.Back
Lat pull down machine precor
54kg x 16
82kg x 15
100kg x 12
100kg x 10
100kg x 8
Close grip. (Mag grip) lat pull down. Cable
70kg x 10
70kg x 10
70kg x 9
70kg x 9
Close grip cable rows
70kg x 11
70kg x 10
70kg x 10
70kg x 9
Threw in some calf raises in the middle here inbetween Roman chair
125kg x 20
125kg x 17
125kg x 15
125kg x 13
Roman chair weight plate
15kg x 20
15kg x 18
15kg x 17
15kg x 17
Straight arm bar bent over pull downs
28.75kg x 18
36.25kg x 10
36.25kg x 10
28.75kg x 12
Dumbbell seated curl alternating
17.5kg x 14
17.5kg x 12
17.5kg x 10
17.5kg x 9
shoulders max out pumped broShoulders
Matrix shoulder press machine.
36kg x 20
54kg x 18
73kg x 15
77kg x 12
77kg x 10
50kg x 22
Machine lateral raises - individual
15kg x 15
20kg x 15
20kg x 14
20kg x 12
Cable cross over rear delt overhead
8.75kg x 14
8.75kg x 12
8.75kg x 12
Rear delt matrix fly
59kg x 16
73kg x 13
73kg x 11
Smith machine upright row
40kg x 14
40kg x 13
40kg x 12
Smith machine shrugs
(Bar behind)
80kg x 16
80kg x 15
(Bar in front)
80kg x 19
80kg x 18
Flexed arm hang into straight leg raises
Holding at top position of neutral chin up. Ankles touching controlling movement.
15
10
7
@Trenhead3cc Awesome log right here!!Chest training
Quicker session this morning
Ran out of time.
Dropped the tbol out of the cycle. Lasted 4.5 weeks . Just giving the liver a break with the added tren feeling now somewhat saturated.
Tren E added at Xmas.
Chest flys decline standing - back supported
25kg x 12
25kg x 12
25kg x 18
35kg x 14
35kg x 13
Incline smith bench
50kg x 16
70kg x 12
80kg x 9
80kg x 7
50kg x 12
standing incline front raises palms up - cable. Standing far forward weight starting behind you (weight per side)
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 10
Decline cable press
Weight per side
21.25kg x 16
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
your lipids are gonna take a beating on tren.
nothing you can do.
@Pigsy you have great genetics, like top 5% thats a factor.I never had an issue with lipids even at 500mg+ it's individual
How bad are theyYeah @Pigsy @LevButlerov my lipids don’t look that good haha
I would start, by looking at diet and supps0.7 HDL
3.3 LDL
Yeah man, def eating pretty clean , not eating pizza and chicken tenders on the regularI would start, by looking at diet and supps
Look at more fibre and fish oilYeah man, def eating pretty clean , not eating pizza and chicken tenders on the regular
24 hour fast is perfect, thats OMAD to get lean.a few days off the gym.
busy with family over weekend, did some cardio over the weekend a beach run.
Missed the gym this morning due to my son not sleeping well. So using today as an opportunity to do a 24 hour fast.
Yeah trying to implement this more often that I really do. So many internal health benefits along with it aswell.24 hour fast is perfect, thats OMAD to get lean.![]()
OMAD and IF, combine both and you'll for sure feel better.Yeah trying to implement this more often that I really do. So many internal health benefits along with it aswell.
Yeah man, def eating pretty clean , not eating pizza and chicken tenders on the regular
Solid workout brother, hope everything is all good with your young bloke!Chest
In 6am
Out 7am
Yesterday had a 24hour fast. That ended 6pm last night. Had home made Vietnamese pork bao buns with rice . And some extra broccoli on the side. Greek yoghurt and granola for dessert.
Feeling a lot tighter from it
Matrix pec deck fly
59kg x 18
93kg x 12
93kg x 14
93kg x 14
Went to do incline next - gym packed no options
Decline cable press - indiv
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 14 Adj height down 1 position)
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
Decline cable flys - indiv
13.75kg x 15
13.75kg x 12
13.75kg x 11
13.75kg x 10
seated calf raises. - (while I wait for a bench)
40kg x 18
40kg x 22
40kg x 22
40kg x 20
Dumbbell incline press
(This is hard after all the previous exercises)
30kg x 16
35kg x 7
30kg x 10
30kg x 6
Tricep extension - nautilus machine
(Love how much my core is engaged on this aswell)
35kg x 16
40kg x 18
45kg x 9
45kg x 9
Tricep rope push down
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
21.25kg x 9
Thanks bro,
Solid workout brother, hope everything is all good with your young bloke!
Haha my daughter has those nights on the regular.Thanks bro,
You get around Evo so you may of connected that food reference lol.
Yeah young bloke is ok, just one of those nights where he was break dancing in his sleep all night and then waking up cold coz had no doona .
Chest day looks good, though you do calfs on chest dayChest
In 6am
Out 7am
Yesterday had a 24hour fast. That ended 6pm last night. Had home made Vietnamese pork bao buns with rice . And some extra broccoli on the side. Greek yoghurt and granola for dessert.
Feeling a lot tighter from it
Matrix pec deck fly
59kg x 18
93kg x 12
93kg x 14
93kg x 14
Went to do incline next - gym packed no options
Decline cable press - indiv
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 14 Adj height down 1 position)
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
Decline cable flys - indiv
13.75kg x 15
13.75kg x 12
13.75kg x 11
13.75kg x 10
seated calf raises. - (while I wait for a bench)
40kg x 18
40kg x 22
40kg x 22
40kg x 20
Dumbbell incline press
(This is hard after all the previous exercises)
30kg x 16
35kg x 7
30kg x 10
30kg x 6
Tricep extension - nautilus machine
(Love how much my core is engaged on this aswell)
35kg x 16
40kg x 18
45kg x 9
45kg x 9
Tricep rope push down
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 11
21.25kg x 9
Trying to hit them a bit more often , they measure the same as my arms which is apparently what they are meant to be , but being tall I want them to look better.Chest day looks good, though you do calfs on chest daythats bodybuilding style for sure.
you know I felt like that too for years, hit the calf muscles a lot, after about 10 years ago realized it was overtraining themTrying to hit them a bit more often , they measure the same as my arms which is apparently what they are meant to be , but being tall I want them to look better.
And also did it coz was waiting for a bench for incline the whole workout
I’m only 2 x a week probablyyou know I felt like that too for years, hit the calf muscles a lot, after about 10 years ago realized it was overtraining them![]()
2x week is good bro i hit calves like 4 times they weakI’m only 2 x a week probably
@Trenhead3cc yea one of those weeks broThis week has been a nightmare with kids,work and other commitments
Training schedule out of whack . So tried to hit a bit of legs and back. Not an optimal training session. Bit tired. But had to get in here and move some weight and feel better for doing something.
Leg extensions - precor
45kg x 18
66kg x 15
80kg x 12
80kg x 16
93kg x 14
Lat pull down - mag grip - mid size
60kg x 16
80kg x 13
100kg x 10
100kg x 8
Prone leg curl
41kg x 12
50kg x 10
50kg x 10
50kg x 9
Standing Calf raises
115kg x 22
115kg x 21
115kg x 20
115kg x 18
Underhand grip lat bar pull downs
Away from body focusing on bicep squeeze and core
60kg x 20
80kg x 11
80kg x 11
80kg x 10
Yeah you get them once a young family comes around. Spanners in the works all the time , hope your daughter on the mend and better soon@Trenhead3cc yea one of those weeks browe all got them, my girl is whacked out due to cold weather up and down
but you really did pull it down strong training day
I only train in the morning at 6am because of commitments. The 3 year old and the 1.1/2 year old are what fuck things up most of the time. Getting 3-4 hours sleep isn’t ideal when the alarm goes off. Sometimes I need to get that extra 1hr before work.Try, as best you can, to train early and have less issues with commitments
family always #1 broYeah you get them once a young family comes around. Spanners in the works all the time , hope your daughter on the mend and better soon
This week has been a nightmare with kids,work and other commitments
Training schedule out of whack . So tried to hit a bit of legs and back. Not an optimal training session. Bit tired. But had to get in here and move some weight and feel better for doing something.
Leg extensions - precor
45kg x 18
66kg x 15
80kg x 12
80kg x 16
93kg x 14
Lat pull down - mag grip - mid size
60kg x 16
80kg x 13
100kg x 10
100kg x 8
Prone leg curl
41kg x 12
50kg x 10
50kg x 10
50kg x 9
Standing Calf raises
115kg x 22
115kg x 21
115kg x 20
115kg x 18
Underhand grip lat bar pull downs
Away from body focusing on bicep squeeze and core
60kg x 20
80kg x 11
80kg x 11
80kg x 10
@Trenhead3cc way to stay consistent! Life gets in the way sometimes!This week has been a nightmare with kids,work and other commitments
Training schedule out of whack . So tried to hit a bit of legs and back. Not an optimal training session. Bit tired. But had to get in here and move some weight and feel better for doing something.
Leg extensions - precor
45kg x 18
66kg x 15
80kg x 12
80kg x 16
93kg x 14
Lat pull down - mag grip - mid size
60kg x 16
80kg x 13
100kg x 10
100kg x 8
Prone leg curl
41kg x 12
50kg x 10
50kg x 10
50kg x 9
Standing Calf raises
115kg x 22
115kg x 21
115kg x 20
115kg x 18
Underhand grip lat bar pull downs
Away from body focusing on bicep squeeze and core
60kg x 20
80kg x 11
80kg x 11
80kg x 10
Great workThis week has been a nightmare with kids,work and other commitments
Training schedule out of whack . So tried to hit a bit of legs and back. Not an optimal training session. Bit tired. But had to get in here and move some weight and feel better for doing something.
Leg extensions - precor
45kg x 18
66kg x 15
80kg x 12
80kg x 16
93kg x 14
Lat pull down - mag grip - mid size
60kg x 16
80kg x 13
100kg x 10
100kg x 8
Prone leg curl
41kg x 12
50kg x 10
50kg x 10
50kg x 9
Standing Calf raises
115kg x 22
115kg x 21
115kg x 20
115kg x 18
Underhand grip lat bar pull downs
Away from body focusing on bicep squeeze and core
60kg x 20
80kg x 11
80kg x 11
80kg x 10
Volume off the charts but no injuriesWorkout with the boys! @CypherOCE @BigCheese2000
Huge volume training. Prob too much haha
But making the most of seeing the Evo boys
Much appreciated the trek they made to workout together and get a feed. Chicken Kiev Parma on rice. (Too much sauce)
Calf raises
125kg x 20
125kg x 18
125kg x 16
125kg x 15
125kg x 14
Chest Fly - seated cable sitting far forward
10kg x 15
12.5kg x 18
15kg x 12
15kg x 8
Incline dumbbell press
30kg x 10
32.5kg x 10
325kg x 9
Decline cable press
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 10
Shoulder press - super set neutral grip . To palms in grip
59kg x 18/10
80kg x 10 /. 4 (66kg)
66kg x 10 / 7 (59kg)
Lateral raises - single arm machine
25kg x 16
25kg x 15
25kg x 13
Charles glass variation dumbbell front raises - single dumbbell
17.5kg x 15
17.5kg x 14
17.5kg x 12
Cable pin loaded chest press
52kg x 24
80kg x 12
80kg x 11
Cable raises standing forward palms up meeting at top of chest eye level
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 10
8.75kg x 10
Tricep extension - nautilus
45kg x 15
45kg x 12
45kg x 10
Bicep preacher curl
52kg x 11
52kg x 7
Just commented on @CypherOCE logWorkout with the boys! @CypherOCE @BigCheese2000
Huge volume training. Prob too much haha
But making the most of seeing the Evo boys
Much appreciated the trek they made to workout together and get a feed. Chicken Kiev Parma on rice. (Too much sauce)
Calf raises
125kg x 20
125kg x 18
125kg x 16
125kg x 15
125kg x 14
Chest Fly - seated cable sitting far forward
10kg x 15
12.5kg x 18
15kg x 12
15kg x 8
Incline dumbbell press
30kg x 10
32.5kg x 10
325kg x 9
Decline cable press
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 12
21.25kg x 10
Shoulder press - super set neutral grip . To palms in grip
59kg x 18/10
80kg x 10 /. 4 (66kg)
66kg x 10 / 7 (59kg)
Lateral raises - single arm machine
25kg x 16
25kg x 15
25kg x 13
Charles glass variation dumbbell front raises - single dumbbell
17.5kg x 15
17.5kg x 14
17.5kg x 12
Cable pin loaded chest press
52kg x 24
80kg x 12
80kg x 11
Cable raises standing forward palms up meeting at top of chest eye level
11.25kg x 12
11.25kg x 10
8.75kg x 10
Tricep extension - nautilus
45kg x 15
45kg x 12
45kg x 10
Bicep preacher curl
52kg x 11
52kg x 7
pic of meal whats that? I opened not sure like pho soup right?Bicep preacher curl
52kg x 11
52kg x 7
Nah looks like shit to be fairpic of meal whats that? I opened not sure like pho soup right?
Nah I think @CypherOCE just injury prone, if you see his first page on his log, he was in a horrific motorbike crash few years ago.Just commented on @CypherOCE log
can you confirm that @BigCheese2000 is the issue for @CypherOCE injuries? lol![]()
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