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Trt ain't working

Jabronie

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Everything is psl or DS

When I was 14 or even 13, my sex drive was retarded. All it took was for the wind to blow or having to hide a random boner in math class. I could go 4x a day in high school. Pussy was like a drug. Now once a day is well enough. Some days I'm not interested but do it anyways just because.
I'm 34, maybe 12% body fat. I'm the guy that will lose weight if I don't eat a cheeseburger especially with my job.
I can't get blood work till Jan because of work.
I have ran 600mg of masteron and was 14 again. But have heard Dr's say that'll be short lived and you'll have to cycle it to get it back.
So what is trt missing for libido? I always see guys in their 40's saying it was magic for them.
 
Theres no way to know what exactly is going on without bloodwork and im pretty sure u are well aware of that
Yeah that's why I mentioned that. but I wasn't sure if there was something I can try to mitigate until January. Gonna try 200t and 100 Masteron one week, and then drop for 25mg proviron along with tongkat Ali.

Is it worth taking something for fsh?
How hard is it to kill shgb? I've read that shgb too low can make your test spill out and have same symptoms of shgb being too high.
Just trying to figure out what's causing all this and how to manage till Jan, because I have no energy and lack of a well being. Not depressed, but just very bland and non social.
 
Yeah that's why I mentioned that. but I wasn't sure if there was something I can try to mitigate until January. Gonna try 200t and 100 Masteron one week, and then drop for 25mg proviron along with tongkat Ali.

Is it worth taking something for fsh?
How hard is it to kill shgb? I've read that shgb too low can make your test spill out and have same symptoms of shgb being too high.
Just trying to figure out what's causing all this and how to manage till Jan, because I have no energy and lack of a well being. Not depressed, but just very bland and non social.

Once again, i dont know with certainty and going with assumption can potentially address the wrong area and make the issues worse
 
If you want to lower SHBG naturally try avenacosides A&B and muira puama. N2Generate can help with libido as well.
 
Everything is psl or DS

When I was 14 or even 13, my sex drive was retarded. All it took was for the wind to blow or having to hide a random boner in math class. I could go 4x a day in high school. Pussy was like a drug. Now once a day is well enough. Some days I'm not interested but do it anyways just because.
I'm 34, maybe 12% body fat. I'm the guy that will lose weight if I don't eat a cheeseburger especially with my job.
I can't get blood work till Jan because of work.
I have ran 600mg of masteron and was 14 again. But have heard Dr's say that'll be short lived and you'll have to cycle it to get it back.
So what is trt missing for libido? I always see guys in their 40's saying it was magic for them.

Couple of thoughts:
1) Go talk to the doc who prescribes the TRT. It might need adjusting
2) Libido changes through life. You're not 14.
 
Everything is psl or DS

When I was 14 or even 13, my sex drive was retarded. All it took was for the wind to blow or having to hide a random boner in math class. I could go 4x a day in high school. Pussy was like a drug. Now once a day is well enough. Some days I'm not interested but do it anyways just because.
I'm 34, maybe 12% body fat. I'm the guy that will lose weight if I don't eat a cheeseburger especially with my job.
I can't get blood work till Jan because of work.
I have ran 600mg of masteron and was 14 again. But have heard Dr's say that'll be short lived and you'll have to cycle it to get it back.
So what is trt missing for libido? I always see guys in their 40's saying it was magic for them.

i've spoken about this plenty of times

people think TRT is magic, it isn't. i used to play poker with a bunch of old rich fucks who all were on TRT, did plastic surgery, owned yachts and the whole nine yards. guess what? they still had to pay for pussy and they still looked old, wrinkly, tired, and fat .. same logic. they thought it would make them look and feel 18 again but that is bullshit the anti aging clinics want you think. in most cases the opposite happens on TRT, you actually shorten your life and feel worse. sorry but it is true. that is why i tell people to put off TRT as long as possible. i don't plan on TRT for a long time, hopefully never. but if i must do it i will worry about it much later in life. now you have 20 somethings going on TRT smh.

if low test was the reason for your poor libido, then TRT would help. but the reality is most of the time that isn't the sole reason for the issue. now people on here mean well when they tell you to run this or that. i mean we have been pwned by marketing our whole lives to take this or that. the truth is some people have poor libido and some have ridiculous libido whre they are sex and porn addicts, and most everyone else falls somewhere in the middle.

this is why i lobby people to not hop on TRT for issues like this. it rarely fixed the issue casue there is something else going on.

now having said that what can you try? you can try herbals that boost libido and erections, you can try anti prolactin supplements and drugs to shorten refractory periods, you can try boosting your own confidence by looking good, you can try hooking up with a super hot chick and see if she turns you on maybe you just need to put a hot chick in front of you to get things going? maybe it is mental?

also i tell this story on my podcast all the time. i used to play poker with a chick who did not have sex for 8 years straight.. she was in a shitty marriage and only stayed in cause they had a kid. finally she got divorced and started dating again. she became a nympho and met random guys and girls online and would have sex daily sometimes 2 or 3 times per day. so she went from no sex for 8 years to suddenly 2-3X per day. the only thing that changed was she went from an abusive relationship in a horrible marriage to the excitement of random hookups with strangers online. so most of the battle here is MENTAL when it comes to sex
 
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i've spoken about this plenty of times

people think TRT is magic, it isn't. i used to play poker with a bunch of old rich fucks who all were on TRT, did plastic surgery, owned yachts and the whole nine yards. guess what? they still had to pay for pussy and they still looked old, wrinkly, tired, and fat .. same logic. they thought it would make them look and feel 18 again but that is bullshit the anti aging clinics want you think. in most cases the opposite happens on TRT, you actually shorten your life and feel worse. sorry but it is true. that is why i tell people to put off TRT as long as possible. i don't plan on TRT for a long time, hopefully never. but if i must do it i will worry about it much later in life. now you have 20 somethings going on TRT smh.

if low test was the reason for your poor libido, then TRT would help. but the reality is most of the time that isn't the sole reason for the issue. now people on here mean well when they tell you to run this or that. i mean we have been pwned by marketing our whole lives to take this or that. the truth is some people have poor libido and some have ridiculous libido whre they are sex and porn addicts, and most everyone else falls somewhere in the middle.

this is why i lobby people to not hop on TRT for issues like this. it rarely fixed the issue casue there is something else going on.

now having said that what can you try? you can try herbals that boost libido and erections, you can try anti prolactin supplements and drugs to shorten refractory periods, you can try boosting your own confidence by looking good, you can try hooking up with a super hot chick and see if she turns you on maybe you just need to put a hot chick in front of you to get things going? maybe it is mental?

also i tell this story on my podcast all the time. i used to play poker with a chick who did not have sex for 8 years straight.. she was in a shitty marriage and only stayed in cause they had a kid. finally she got divorced and started dating again. she became a nympho and met random guys and girls online and would have sex daily sometimes 2 or 3 times per day. so she went from no sex for 8 years to suddenly 2-3X per day. the only thing that changed was she went from an abusive relationship in a horrible marriage to the excitement of random hookups with strangers online. so most of the battle here is MENTAL when it comes to sex

I've touched on this a few times. I went 6 years with no pussy (early to late 40's). None (except right at the beginning). I was 100% focused on competing,. business and other. Call it a dry spell. But it was like I never even noticed so it never bothered me. I'd still take 'care of business manually' lol.

Then, head up ass time, I f**ked everything off and finally moved on from the business, the place I lived in etc. Moved here. One girl started sniffing around and I was blind to it for a while. FINALLY the libido woke back up (at last... praise the lord ha!). She became a short lived thing but then someone introduced me to the website Plenty Of Fish. Well hot fkin damn. I went from nothing to five in a week and 2 in one day (with one 7x in one day. I was like that for about 2 years (just about 50 years old then) total. Zero TRT, zero PEDs making any difference. All my crazy and long dry times have been off. If anything I'm calmer on.

Now people need to realize you'll NEVER be like you was when you was a teen. That at the start of good relationships you'll f**k anywhere, anytime and often. That sh*t calms the f**k down (it's called the honeymoon period). Life is NOT a competition to f**k more than the next guy. Old people DO have sex but it's rare to be banging hot chicks 4x a day 8 days a week when you're 60+. You need to get your head around that. There will be times when you'd put a rabbit to shame and other times when you forgot what good ass feels like. It's life.
 
i've spoken about this plenty of times

people think TRT is magic, it isn't. i used to play poker with a bunch of old rich fucks who all were on TRT, did plastic surgery, owned yachts and the whole nine yards. guess what? they still had to pay for pussy and they still looked old, wrinkly, tired, and fat .. same logic. they thought it would make them look and feel 18 again but that is bullshit the anti aging clinics want you think. in most cases the opposite happens on TRT, you actually shorten your life and feel worse. sorry but it is true. that is why i tell people to put off TRT as long as possible. i don't plan on TRT for a long time, hopefully never. but if i must do it i will worry about it much later in life. now you have 20 somethings going on TRT smh.

if low test was the reason for your poor libido, then TRT would help. but the reality is most of the time that isn't the sole reason for the issue. now people on here mean well when they tell you to run this or that. i mean we have been pwned by marketing our whole lives to take this or that. the truth is some people have poor libido and some have ridiculous libido whre they are sex and porn addicts, and most everyone else falls somewhere in the middle.

this is why i lobby people to not hop on TRT for issues like this. it rarely fixed the issue casue there is something else going on.

now having said that what can you try? you can try herbals that boost libido and erections, you can try anti prolactin supplements and drugs to shorten refractory periods, you can try boosting your own confidence by looking good, you can try hooking up with a super hot chick and see if she turns you on maybe you just need to put a hot chick in front of you to get things going? maybe it is mental?

also i tell this story on my podcast all the time. i used to play poker with a chick who did not have sex for 8 years straight.. she was in a shitty marriage and only stayed in cause they had a kid. finally she got divorced and started dating again. she became a nympho and met random guys and girls online and would have sex daily sometimes 2 or 3 times per day. so she went from no sex for 8 years to suddenly 2-3X per day. the only thing that changed was she went from an abusive relationship in a horrible marriage to the excitement of random hookups with strangers online. so most of the battle here is MENTAL when it comes to sex



Sorry, but there's quite a bit of misinformation here.

First off, TRT DOES NOT shorten your life. That's ridiculous. TRT done right is heart healthy. Hell, you want something that'll shorten your life, it's half of the stuff you talk about in the podcasts. You seem to have some age-ist prejudice. Here's the truth...

#1: It's true that it won't give you the sex drive you had at 18, even if your testosterone level is the same. There are many other factors involved.

#2: Most old guys don't do what they need to do to get optimum hormonal levels. That includes estrogen control and supplementation. A product like BRIDGE is so overlooked but it would be phenomenal for guys on TRT. Why it isn't mentioned more often is beyond me. A great NTB product.

#3: It's also true that some guys go on TRT way too soon. But after 50, not matter what, if you want to be healthy you'll need it, ESPECIALLY if you've done cycles. No way will you have health T levels without it. Don't kid yourself. I know when you're 40, 50 seems like an eternity away, but it'll come and you better be prepared.

#4: The psychological aspect of sex is also a factor, but it's different for men and women. Women will often have promiscuous sex, not because they're horny, but because it makes them feel wanted. It gives them a sense of power. That is an entirely separate mechanism from the effect of hormones.

#5: And, just as an aside, some guys pay for pussy because it's easy. I've never paid for it in my life. I don't want to come off like one of these assholes who brags about his prowess, but I've dated models half my age while in my 50's. Now, I don't want to chase it and frankly, I don't want to be bothered trying to play the game with a 20-something. A hot 45 year old would be great but at that age, they've wised up. LOL They're looking for a mate, not a roll in the hay, and if they are they'll do it with some young guy to "feel young." (Which is stupid, but that's another story).

Anyway, don't be so quick to make evaluations on limited experience. TRT is a complex issue and these "shoot form the hip" solutions from both sides of the isle often do more harm than good.
 
i've spoken about this plenty of times

people think TRT is magic, it isn't. i used to play poker with a bunch of old rich fucks who all were on TRT, did plastic surgery, owned yachts and the whole nine yards. guess what? they still had to pay for pussy and they still looked old, wrinkly, tired, and fat .. same logic. they thought it would make them look and feel 18 again but that is bullshit the anti aging clinics want you think. in most cases the opposite happens on TRT, you actually shorten your life and feel worse. sorry but it is true. that is why i tell people to put off TRT as long as possible. i don't plan on TRT for a long time, hopefully never. but if i must do it i will worry about it much later in life. now you have 20 somethings going on TRT smh.

if low test was the reason for your poor libido, then TRT would help. but the reality is most of the time that isn't the sole reason for the issue. now people on here mean well when they tell you to run this or that. i mean we have been pwned by marketing our whole lives to take this or that. the truth is some people have poor libido and some have ridiculous libido whre they are sex and porn addicts, and most everyone else falls somewhere in the middle.

this is why i lobby people to not hop on TRT for issues like this. it rarely fixed the issue casue there is something else going on.

now having said that what can you try? you can try herbals that boost libido and erections, you can try anti prolactin supplements and drugs to shorten refractory periods, you can try boosting your own confidence by looking good, you can try hooking up with a super hot chick and see if she turns you on maybe you just need to put a hot chick in front of you to get things going? maybe it is mental?

also i tell this story on my podcast all the time. i used to play poker with a chick who did not have sex for 8 years straight.. she was in a shitty marriage and only stayed in cause they had a kid. finally she got divorced and started dating again. she became a nympho and met random guys and girls online and would have sex daily sometimes 2 or 3 times per day. so she went from no sex for 8 years to suddenly 2-3X per day. the only thing that changed was she went from an abusive relationship in a horrible marriage to the excitement of random hookups with strangers online. so most of the battle here is MENTAL when it comes to sex

agree 1000%

best post on here in a while and dead on

the people who disagree can't handle the truth.
 
agree 1000%

best post on here in a while and dead on

the people who disagree can't handle the truth.

People who make comments like "Can't handle the truth" think it has credence even when they have no idea what they're talking about. Nice try.
 
Trt is a waste imo barely makes you feel any diff Just a doctors way to rip you off unless you find a good deal which is still like $200 a month and they have shitty tests that barely does anything
 
I just want to clarify what i said earlier. if you actually need TRT because of an actual medical reason then i am 100% for it. if you just want TRT to boost your libido or some other trivial thing then I am 100% for you fixing the root issues BEFOREHAND cause TRT rarely fixes things for you. and if you want TRT to look and feel younger cause you think TRT is magic then you are living in a delusional world cause it doesn't work like that. that was my point as illustrated by the person who started the thread in the first place who was expecting a lot and got delivered less than he hoped as have many others

also yes steroid abuse shortens your life and so does TRT abuse which many people do. sorry but 300mg a week test isn't TRT, nor is 250, or even 200 in most cases. mobster and I have done how many podcasts talking about 40 something bodybuilders dropping dead, so puhleeze if you think steroids don't shorten your lifespan. it DOES but who cares right? not like people care about their health anyway. sorry if it hurts feelings to say that but I’m not here to be your friend I’m here to help you reach your fitness goals
 
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Trt is a waste imo barely makes you feel any diff Just a doctors way to rip you off unless you find a good deal which is still like $200 a month and they have shitty tests that barely does anything

exactly, anti aging clinics are run by businessmen, not doctors. they take your info and send it to doctors in other states who write you a script without even talking to you, then charge you lots of cash to pay for the office. its a damn good scam. just like pill mills.

if you want to do TRT you MUST find a real doctor who has YOUR best interest at heart, not a businessman
 
I just want to clarify what i said earlier. if you actually need TRT because of an actual medical reason then i am 100% for it. if you just want TRT to boost your libido or some other trivial thing then I am 100% for you fixing the root issues BEFOREHAND cause TRT rarely fixes things for you. and if you want TRT to look and feel younger cause you think TRT is magic then you are living in a delusional world cause it doesn't work like that. that was my point as illustrated by the person who started the thread in the first place who was expecting a lot and got delivered less than he hoped as have many others

also yes steroid abuse shortens your life and so does TRT abuse which many people do. sorry but 300mg a week test isn't TRT, nor is 250, or even 200 in most cases. mobster and I have done how many podcasts talking about 40 something bodybuilders dropping dead, so puhleeze if you think steroids don't shorten your lifespan. it DOES but who cares right? not like people care about their health anyway. sorry if it hurts feelings to say that but I’m not here to be your friend I’m here to help you reach your fitness goals

Well, that's a different thing. Yes, steroid use can shorten your life and 350 mgs of Test isn't TRT and going to a "male clinic" is not legitimate treatment. I think the message here gets convoluted because so many people do this stuff all wrong -- from cycling , to TRT, to PCT, to dosages, to everything in-between.
 
Everything is psl or DS

When I was 14 or even 13, my sex drive was retarded. All it took was for the wind to blow or having to hide a random boner in math class. I could go 4x a day in high school. Pussy was like a drug. Now once a day is well enough. Some days I'm not interested but do it anyways just because.
I'm 34, maybe 12% body fat. I'm the guy that will lose weight if I don't eat a cheeseburger especially with my job.
I can't get blood work till Jan because of work.
I have ran 600mg of masteron and was 14 again. But have heard Dr's say that'll be short lived and you'll have to cycle it to get it back.
So what is trt missing for libido? I always see guys in their 40's saying it was magic for them.

If you did masteron and was 14 i suspect you have high estrogen or prolactin or both.

I would do bloods first especially estrogenic to see. Testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, tsh, t3/t4, lh, fsh and see where you are.
 
If you did masteron and was 14 i suspect you have high estrogen or prolactin or both.

I would do bloods first especially estrogenic to see. Testosterone, estrogen, progesterone, prolactin, tsh, t3/t4, lh, fsh and see where you are.
So masteron can effect prolactin?
I was thinking the same about estrogen being elevated, because I took 2tabs of PSL proviron and next days libido was up. I do have small gyno from Early years of being stubborn, and isn't acting up.


Now I'm trying different compounds from previous cycles to mitigate till Jan to do bloods.
 
People should get blood work done before entreating prolactin. Elevated prolactin is actually quite rare.
 
higher test dose maybe? consider it
 
Run some bloods first
 
Everything is psl or DS

When I was 14 or even 13, my sex drive was retarded. All it took was for the wind to blow or having to hide a random boner in math class. I could go 4x a day in high school. Pussy was like a drug. Now once a day is well enough. Some days I'm not interested but do it anyways just because.
I'm 34, maybe 12% body fat. I'm the guy that will lose weight if I don't eat a cheeseburger especially with my job.
I can't get blood work till Jan because of work.
I have ran 600mg of masteron and was 14 again. But have heard Dr's say that'll be short lived and you'll have to cycle it to get it back.
So what is trt missing for libido? I always see guys in their 40's saying it was magic for them.




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Really hard to say until you are able to get the bloods done. If masteron helped that much, could be the DHT. You could try proviron while you wait since it is not liver toxic.
 
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