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Redam,Matty,Krazie - winter bulk challenge.

I'm doing 16 weeks of

1,000 mg sustanon a week
600 mg masteron enanthate a week
800mg equipose a week

Starting Aug 1st

KRAZIEONE
 
I can't wait to see this run by everyone. Are we going to know who is using what??? I think that would be cool also??!!!


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I'm a little surprised by your compound selection Krazie. I'm not knocking you, it's just not the way I would go for 'Holy Shit Size.'
 
I'm a little surprised by your compound selection Krazie. I'm not knocking you, it's just not the way I would go for 'Holy Shit Size.'

Those compounds actually work the best for me. They really do. I put on size like crazy. I also eat like 5,000 a day when doing it.

Also using 50mg tne pre workout.

KRAZIEONE
 
I'm not sure how u figure that bro. My abs look the same as urs my shoulders are vascular. But whatever u say. I'm gonna show u what big is then maybe you will give me the respect I shud already get. I gave u a run for your money on the sarms contest and I'm almost twice ur age kid. Remember that.

KRAZIEONE

See, ever since that DD ordeal you've been on a high and mighty horse and I keep trying to hold it in and be civil but kid??? I'm a fucking man with a kid and another on the way, working in one of the most dangerous industries in the country, and I should show you respect why? I did this challenge not for fun but because you have this attitude that you are this huge mother fucker and look better than everyone, you aren't. Redam is honestly going to destroy me in this contest, there are plenty of dudes in the forum that put me to damn shame, the difference between us is, I'm fucking aware of that fact, I'm brand new to gear, I've done two blasts, my avatar is me natural from last year, how many cycles do you have under your belt??? Some three years worth?

Do you really think that your 3 inches of height on me don't add any non muscular mass to your weight on me? That you are straight up 100% 16 lbs of pure muscle on me? Because that isn't true by any means. You talk about respect but on your little tren rage you showed zero regard for many people and went up on an egotistical high horse attitude that has only been increased when you think you were the sole cause for DD's ban. I had new members pm'ing me about the fact you were pinning 2g's a test a week for fun in an area they were told they weren't suppose to pin and they were confused on correct pinning procedures.

You are not twice my age you have about a decade on me, and I've been doing physical labor construction for coming up on 10 years now so my body has a lot of wear and tear on it. You ran 2-3x the doses I ran, with nearly double the amount of compounds I ran during the contest, I did a base of test and about 350mgs of tren a week with an experimental week that I deeply regret and will never attempt again. Your abs are the same as mine? Unless you take piss poor pictures, no they aren't and I'm pale as shit so it takes a lot for them to show I'll go spray tan asap just to show you how much more I have but I don't see any on you.

You attack MT for shit you were doing along with him not too long ago and you talk about respect yet I see you being rude and short with people. You have 3000 plus post and a good amount came from you clowning around with him but what, he stated I clearly beat you and now you and him are enemies?

I looked better than you when I was natural, remember that, and I look better running less compounds and lower doses, yet every thread it comes to our physiques you think you can shit on mine because you are older and taller? I know plenty of dudes in their 40's and 50's and they destroy me physique wise, they damn well inspire me to look like that down the road, so being 40 and knowing they are 40 means nothing to me. Nahhhh fuck that you keep rubbing me the wrong way, you want respect you show it, I try to show respect to everyone here but you demand it and don't return it to anyone. Do you know how many PMs I have about you and what's wrong with you half the time?
 
See, ever since that DD ordeal you've been on a high and mighty horse and I keep trying to hold it in and be civil but kid??? I'm a fucking man with a kid and another on the way, working in one of the most dangerous industries in the country, and I should show you respect why? I did this challenge not for fun but because you have this attitude that you are this huge mother fucker and look better than everyone, you aren't. Redam is honestly going to destroy me in this contest, there are plenty of dudes in the forum that put me to damn shame, the difference between us is, I'm fucking aware of that fact, I'm brand new to gear, I've done two blasts, my avatar is me natural from last year, how many cycles do you have under your belt??? Some three years worth?

Do you really think that your 3 inches of height on me don't add any non muscular mass to your weight on me? That you are straight up 100% 16 lbs of pure muscle on me? Because that isn't true by any means. You talk about respect but on your little tren rage you showed zero regard for many people and went up on an egotistical high horse attitude that has only been increased when you think you were the sole cause for DD's ban. I had new members pm'ing me about the fact you were pinning 2g's a test a week for fun in an area they were told they weren't suppose to pin and they were confused on correct pinning procedures.

You are not twice my age you have about a decade on me, and I've been doing physical labor construction for coming up on 10 years now so my body has a lot of wear and tear on it. You ran 2-3x the doses I ran, with nearly double the amount of compounds I ran during the contest, I did a base of test and about 350mgs of tren a week with an experimental week that I deeply regret and will never attempt again. Your abs are the same as mine? Unless you take piss poor pictures, no they aren't and I'm pale as shit so it takes a lot for them to show I'll go spray tan asap just to show you how much more I have but I don't see any on you.

You attack MT for shit you were doing along with him not too long ago and you talk about respect yet I see you being rude and short with people. You have 3000 plus post and a good amount came from you clowning around with him but what, he stated I clearly beat you and now you and him are enemies?

I looked better than you when I was natural, remember that, and I look better running less compounds and lower doses, yet every thread it comes to our physiques you think you can shit on mine because you are older and taller? I know plenty of dudes in their 40's and 50's and they destroy me physique wise, they damn well inspire me to look like that down the road, so being 40 and knowing they are 40 means nothing to me. Nahhhh fuck that you keep rubbing me the wrong way, you want respect you show it, I try to show respect to everyone here but you demand it and don't return it to anyone. Do you know how many PMs I have about you and what's wrong with you half the time?

OK one, I never ever aimed to be a huge mother fucker or any where near that. I joke with you because its for fun.

Two, I'm not calling you a kid. Saying kid for me is like bro and dude. Its a baseball thing. Like nice play kid. I know you are a man.

Three, I went on a high and mighty tear because I'm tired of guys talking g shit when they don't know shit. And assume and say stupid ass things. You didn't clearly beat me. In the sarms contest it was a close decision as stated.

I can see all my abs just fine and I'm pale ass white too. I went to the lake a couple times and it maybe gave me a little color.

I don't give a dam what Mt said or says. He clowns on everyone. Everyone pm'd u about me cool. That's between u and them.

We ran about the same amount of stuff idk where ur getting that. You ran tren at 75-100 mg EOD correct. I ran it 600mg a week. Only at the end did I try the no ester stuff because someone gave me some to experiment with.

Why does it matter where I inject it works for me. I never advised anyone to do what I do.

And DD got banned one for being told to lay off me by a few mod friends I have here the. He said arms were bullshit. Then said 90% of the people on this forum didn't know how to train or eat. Then he was asked by mods and admin for a sit down via Skype and refused because he knew he was a fraud and a joke. Those all led to his demise.

I'm who I am Matty just like you are who you are. If someone says something to me I don't like I'm going to be honest and upfront and say something. And I have admitted to you and others when I was wrong. Did I not?

And I'm sure your body is tore up fro. Your job.. Well so is mine I was a carpenter for 12 years and have been playing sports since I was three. My body is tore up too and I'm what 15 yrs older than u?

I was saying anything I said to you or redam as talking shit to my friends who I thought knew I was joking.

If you are intent of putting me to shame then you go for it. But I'm here to battle two guys I thought I was friends with.



KRAZIEONE
 
Nobody said I'm battle bro! Like I said, I'm about the NOH8 campaign!

But I do think you should possibly watch your attitude or choice of words to other Krazi. I see you are joking with me and that's why I do it back. But lately you've been going on a tangents ya know? Simmer down and had fun! That's what evo is about!

We help others achieve goals and break PRs


N²Labs
 
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Nobody said I'm battle bro! Like I said, I'm about the NOH8 campaign!

But I do think you should possibly watch your attitude or choice of words to other Krazi. I see you are joking with me and that's why I do it back. But lately you've been going on a tangents ya know? Simmer down and had fun! That's what evo is about!

We help others achieve goals and break PRs


N²Labs

Like it..!!!


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I'm looking to squelch this, I don't have ill will its just you lately you come off from joking to questionable douchey. I'm not saying this as a personal attack but the line between when you are joking and when you are attacking is really starting to get blurred dude and I've been feeling very defensive about certain things for a while and while initially I took them as jokes the consistency of similar comments made me start to think otherwise and the Kid thing set me off the edge because you threw in age and then stated kid, perhaps this was all just a miscommunication through the keyboard but on my end you stopped coming off chumming a few weeks ago when I started to mention it.

If its all a misunderstanding I'm willing to put this behind us and make this fun like the sarms1 contest and we'll let this die as quick as it sparked up.
 
Nobody said I'm battle bro! Like I said, I'm about the NOH8 campaign!

But I do think you should possibly watch your attitude or choice of words to other Krazi. I see you are joking with me and that's why I do it back. But lately you've been going on a tangents ya know? Simmer down and had fun! That's what evo is about!

We help others achieve goals and break PRs


N²Labs

OK so I'm the only one who has to say nice things and everyone else can fuck with me and I just sit here and take it? How is that fair?

I have gone off a few times. And yes some of it not needed. But when I was wrong I apologized.

Its fine I get it. I'm the black sheep. That's fine. I got tough skin. I can be the bad guy. I really don't care.

I try to joke with guys and talk a little shit in fun and then they get butt hurt and get all pissed at me. I don't get it.

KRAZIEONE
 
I'm looking to squelch this, I don't have ill will its just you lately you come off from joking to questionable douchey. I'm not saying this as a personal attack but the line between when you are joking and when you are attacking is really starting to get blurred dude and I've been feeling very defensive about certain things for a while and while initially I took them as jokes the consistency of similar comments made me start to think otherwise and the Kid thing set me off the edge because you threw in age and then stated kid, perhaps this was all just a miscommunication through the keyboard but on my end you stopped coming off chumming a few weeks ago when I started to mention it.

If its all a misunderstanding I'm willing to put this behind us and make this fun like the sarms1 contest and we'll let this die as quick as it sparked up.

I can see what ur saying. I'm always joking with you. Just cause I tell someone else to go fuck themselves doesn't mean you should confuse my jokes with you. Lol. The kid thing was not meant the way u took it. And the age thing is valid. I'm a lot older than u and gave u a good run for your money. And that can't be denied.

I'd rather have fun and us all get huge.



KRAZIEONE
 
I can see what ur saying. I'm always joking with you. Just cause I tell someone else to go fuck themselves doesn't mean you should confuse my jokes with you. Lol. The kid thing was not meant the way u took it. And the age thing is valid. I'm a lot older than u and gave u a good run for your money. And that can't be denied.

I'd rather have fun and us all get huge.



KRAZIEONE

Then as far as we are concerned this is behind us.
 
So starts August to end of January no specific cycle length.

My cycle will not be disclosed as I shared it with Red and he's using it against me! We'll be running a new lab so we'll post some pics of that if all goes well and I'll reveal my cycle layout later into the contest when its too late for it to be stolen yet again!
 
So starts August to end of January no specific cycle length.

My cycle will not be disclosed as I shared it with Red and he's using it against me! We'll be running a new lab so we'll post some pics of that if all goes well and I'll reveal my cycle layout later into the contest when its too late for it to be stolen yet again!

We came up with the cycle together, don't let him fool you!


N²Labs
 
Ahhh, just admit it... You're going to run a powerlifter/powerbuilder cycle and you're trying to keep it under wraps :)

BTW is 500mg of Anadrol a day really safe?
 
It's going to be really funny when u run have the time and look better than all of you...!!!!


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Ahhh, just admit it... You're going to run a powerlifter/powerbuilder cycle and you're trying to keep it under wraps :)

BTW is 500mg of Anadrol a day really safe?

I ADMIT NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

500mgs of anadrol a day is a great way to kill yourself.
 
500mgs of anadrol a day is a great way to kill yourself.

This was a joke. :D I was more making reference to androgenic effects... well, nevermind. If you have to explain a joke, it wasn't that funny to begin with.

But just as a little piece of meaningless information about me, I'm a bigger fan of highly androgenic compounds in terms of bulking. That's all. :D
 
i just may have to re-evaluate my 2nd go around. Is it ok for me to for go the typical 500mg test weekly with an oral?

What say u!
 
i just may have to re-evaluate my 2nd go around. Is it ok for me to for go the typical 500mg test weekly with an oral?

What say u!

Just take plenty of liver protection wit orals. Try an limit those sides as much as possible.
 
Yes I am aware of liver protection. I would like to for go that option of an oral and test only cycle, is that a bad idea?

Anyone have a proposed cycle for an up and coming,BEAST FROM THE EAST?


THE GREEN MACHINE
 
Yes I am aware of liver protection.

Anyone have a proposed cycle for an up and coming,BEAST FROM THE EAST?


THE GREEN MACHINE
I'd start a new thread and ask in the open forum...prolly get a better response.
 
I was referring to this bulking based thread, but ur right, i'm gonna get huge in another thread!!! Haha!!!!!


THE GREEN MACHINE
You dont want to post it in here. To much drama LOL.
START ur own thread than read up on different routes you can go.
 
What's the problem?

KRAZIEONE

I'm not CEO and as such I don't garner the respect he does here. That having been said, if and only if you were to ask me Krazie, I would have gone with shorter esters and more androgenic compounds. Anadrol, Dianabol, TNE, Test Enan, Tren as examples.

*But I see again that you know better than I do so I defer to your superior knowledge and command of the topic.
 
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I'm not CEO and as such I don't garner the respect he does here. That having been said, if and only if you were to ask me Krazie, I would have gone with shorter esters and more androgenic compounds. Anadrol, Dianabol, TNE, Test Enan, Tren as examples.

*But I see again that you know better than I do so I defer to your superior knowledge and command of the topic.

Not superior knowledge I don't know all that much. But I do know what works for me. Dianabol makes my heart race and gives me headaches and my daily life suffers. Test enan I don't really like which is why I run sustanon or test cyp. Tren we all know turns me into a fucking asshole and I just ran 12 weeks of it and I need a break from it. I did state I would be using tne ed as a pwo. Never tried anabol. I know that this combination works wonders for ME not anyone else or a s a general rule or advice. I find when I run too many short esters I break out where as long esters I do not. Also, I'm a ball player. And when I runs lot of short ester stuff my game suffers because I'm all amped up.

That's why these products. They work in harmony with me.

KRAZIEONE
 
Mast???

Where's the Anadrol, Deca and tren???

Yeah sure, keep the EQ I guess.

I like masteron. I like how I feel on it. Also I just got done running tren. A lot of it and so I'm taking a break. Not really a fan of DECA altho I know its a good bulker. Never tried anadrol. U got some free samples for me? Lol.

KRAZIEONE
 
I like masteron. I like how I feel on it. Also I just got done running tren. A lot of it and so I'm taking a break. Not really a fan of DECA altho I know its a good bulker. Never tried anadrol. U got some free samples for me? Lol.

KRAZIEONE

I have some of the best anadrol available. Iran Hormone oxymetholone. But I ain't sharing that shit!
 
I find trannies are more of a tren season thing. I watch the market. There's a correlation between tren season and tranny income
 
So back to the point this is LBM gain so measurements like body fat% weight play the factor not the final physical appearance. It's who can put on the most lean body mass. Yes?
 
So back to the point this is LBM gain so measurements like body fat% weight play the factor not the final physical appearance. It's who can put on the most lean body mass. Yes?

Well now see, this where its confusing. This started as u saying you would challenge me to a winter bulk contest and said you would reach a higher weight before me or something like that. So, we started as a bulk contest. Obviously clean weight. But when u bulk u do take on things like a little fat and a little water. So bf shudnt be in play here. One because we are all pretty lean guys. Two that sounds like a repeat of the sarms contest. Which was a recomp to me being concerned about bf% and all that is a recomp. Not a get big contest. Because obviously all of us are going to drop the fat and water at the end.

I think this shud be about size. So let's say u start with 17" arms. And get to 19". But I start with 16" and get to 20". Then I bulked more than you. Does make sense.

I think this shud be about starting weight to ending weight. And starting size to ending size. So arms chest shoulders thighs calves.

Thoughts?

KRAZIEONE
 
See starting weight with body fat gives us starting lean body mass

Body fat end plus weight gives us an idea of ending lean mass. So from that we can see who added the most lean body mass overall.
 
Ok I went back and looked you said challenge on winter bulk and said you would hate to hit a heavier weight than me before I cud.

KRAZIEONE
 
See starting weight with body fat gives us starting lean body mass

Body fat end plus weight gives us an idea of ending lean mass. So from that we can see who added the most lean body mass overall.

I see what ur saying. But that's basically what we just did w sarms contest. I thought this was a diff challenge. We can still do it. But I was thinking we could change it to a new challenge not the same one.

KRAZIEONE
 
That's open game to getting fat. Lean body mass shows who built more muscle. We have other contestants we need a more clear guidelines than weigh more than krazi.
 
I see what ur saying. But that's basically what we just did w sarms contest. I thought this was a diff challenge. We can still do it. But I was thinking we could change it to a new challenge not the same one.

KRAZIEONE
Sarms was a physical appearance recomp. This is sheer muscle mass. Just build muscle sarms was cut.
 
That's open game to getting fat. Lean body mass shows who built more muscle. We have other contestants we need a more clear guidelines than weigh more than krazi.

Lol but that's what u said. That's what started all this. Right?

And obviously not fat gains. Who wants those? It just sounds like another recomp.

I guess what I'm saying is bulking and lbm are two diff things.

Maybe you don't agree.

How bout meet in the middle. Starting weight. Starting bf. Starting measurements.



KRAZIEONE
 
Sarms was a physical appearance recomp. This is sheer muscle mass. Just build muscle sarms was cut.

OK well if its sheer muscle mass gain. When u gain mass u gain water and fat along w it so your bf% will change correct?

So basically this isn't a winter bulk contest you want it be a lean muscle gain contest. Who Gaines the most muscle while either keeping your current bf% or lower it. Am I understanding it properly?

KRAZIEONE
 
And nobody can pm any Mods everyday asking how they are looking. That should be one of the rules.

One, fizz is my friend on here.

Two, I asked him how I was doing. Like my log my pics everything. Cause that was my first contest ever in my life and so I didn't know how I was doing if I was giving enough info in my log. Progress etc.

Don't be a fucking dick!

KRAZIEONE
 
No body fat won't be a factor. Weight - bf %= lbm let's say

So starting lbm
Ending lbm

Biggest increase wins. Bf doesn't matter but it'll will affect your lbm. Should I hop on the laptop and explain more in depth?
 
That comment right there is a PRIME example why I get pissed off and be an asshole it has no place here. I'm thinking maybe I just don't want to do this. All I'm gonna hear is great job Matty and redam and I'll just get put down. U guys do whatever u want. I'm just gonna be in the dungeon getting big and strong and eating a ton.

KRAZIEONE
 
No body fat won't be a factor. Weight - bf %= lbm let's say

So starting lbm
Ending lbm

Biggest increase wins. Bf doesn't matter but it'll will affect your lbm. Should I hop on the laptop and explain more in depth?

No I get what ur saying now. That makes sense.

KRAZIEONE
 
That comment right there is a PRIME example why I get pissed off and be an asshole it has no place here. I'm thinking maybe I just don't want to do this. All I'm gonna hear is great job Matty and redam and I'll just get put down. U guys do whatever u want. I'm just gonna be in the dungeon getting big and strong and eating a ton.

KRAZIEONE
Dont be a whiner just stand up to all your posts like a man.
 
What comment I'm explaining my idea as we don't seem to hold the same opinion on what lbm is. Body fat doesn't matter. Greatest increase in lean muscle mass wins. If you add 24 lbs of muscle but add 5% body fat you still beat someone who added 12 lbs but didn't add fat
 
What comment I'm explaining my idea as we don't seem to hold the same opinion on what lbm is. Body fat doesn't matter. Greatest increase in lean muscle mass wins. If you add 24 lbs of muscle but add 5% body fat you still beat someone who added 12 lbs but didn't add fat

Not u Matty. Ur buddy Mt pockets.

KRAZIEONE
 
Well this isn't made to hurt feelings. What if you get all the complements Krazi? We would also congratulate you.

Of course people are going to be told well done and nice job. I don't get what you are saying man...

It's every man for their self. It's a friendly challenge


N²Labs
 
Well this isn't made to hurt feelings. What if you get all the complements Krazi? We would also congratulate you.

Of course people are going to be told well done and nice job. I don't get what you are saying man...

It's every man for their self. It's a friendly challenge


N²Labs

I'm talking about Mt CONSTANTLY dogging me and making fun of me or bringing up shit and being an asshole about it cause he thinks is its funny.

KRAZIEONE
 
He jumps on me like this also! I do it back messing around man! No hard feelings bro! Have fun! MT means good and trying to have fun like you and I.

Just all simmer down and make friends 😁

Who wants to be my BFF?


N²Labs
 
He jumps on me like this also! I do it back messing around man! No hard feelings bro! Have fun! MT means good and trying to have fun like you and I.

Just all simmer down and make friends 😁

Who wants to be my BFF?


N²Labs

He may do it to u a joking manner. But he doesn't do that to me. He is being a prick for no reason. Case and point his last comment on here about mods. Its just not needed. And since you guys want me to be calm and not get pissed off, I try to avoid anything he is involved in.

KRAZIEONE
 
And nobody can pm any Mods everyday asking how they are looking. That should be one of the rules.

I'll straight up lie and either say, "you look awesome bro!" when you really look like shit. Or I'll tell you that you look like shit when you look awesome. I'll be convincing though. Have you crying yourselves to sleep at night all confused.
 
I'll straight up lie and either say, "you look awesome bro!" when you really look like shit. Or I'll tell you that you look like shit when you look awesome. I'll be convincing though. Have you crying yourselves to sleep at night all confused.

That's OK I don't mind if its u doing it.

KRAZIEONE
 
I'll straight up lie and either say, "you look awesome bro!" when you really look like shit. Or I'll tell you that you look like shit when you look awesome. I'll be convincing though. Have you crying yourselves to sleep at night all confused.
Will you Skype call me every night to hear my tears :-)
 
That comment right there is a PRIME example why I get pissed off and be an asshole it has no place here. I'm thinking maybe I just don't want to do this. All I'm gonna hear is great job Matty and redam and I'll just get put down. U guys do whatever u want. I'm just gonna be in the dungeon getting big and strong and eating a ton.

KRAZIEONE

Atta boy Fattie!! Fuck these bros!
 
Why is it that you can't laugh when someone teases you, or you can never be wrong... or you always know what is right and nobody can tell you different?

You don't like that fact that certain guys here pick on your a little more than most. However, you've also made yourself one hell of an easy target Krazie. Take our limited interactions as an example... meaning I'm not bring this up to pick on you.

My 3rd day here you ripped into me about the upper outer quadrant of the glute being the wrong place to shoot. A few days later you wouldn't accept that I wasn't making up my own definition of what a solution and suspension was - it literally took CEO to agree with me before you'd dropped the attitude that I was making up my own definitions. Today, you just *KNOW* what makes a good bulking cycle and when CEO and I both scratched our heads the initial reaction of extremely defensive telling us to tear it apart (or rip into it.)

The fact is that you can't always be right. You can't always be the smartest person in the room. When you paint yourself in that light and present yourself in that manner to everyone on the forum - it will rub people the wrong way and you are going to get people picking on you.

I'm not saying it's all your fault but I am saying that you have a strong roll in why guys treat you the way they do sometimes.

And for the record, this is the second time in this thread that someone is telling you that your attitude and how you present yourself is why you are getting into fights with people and being picked on... Just for a moment consider that two people with completely independent motivations telling you the same thing might not be wrong. In fact, it just might be that you are the one who is a little out line on the forum when it comes to how you react to people and how you word your replies.

In other words, if you want people to stop picking on you - stop giving them a reason to. Sure, they might still do it occasionally, but if you aren't creating a new way to piss them off every day I can promise you that it will happen much less frequently.

Humility is so rare in this social circle, but it really is priceless Krazie. It will save your ass, although I fear this post will fall upon deaf ears.

- Not your enemy
 
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