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@RoidRage69 honestly no joke I wouldnt think about bulking cycles now until you drop down to 230lbs
but if you want a clean bulker I would go with testosterone, equipoise and tbol something dry and easy to use for you
but if you want a clean bulker I would go with testosterone, equipoise and tbol something dry and easy to use for you
I have no plans on bulking until I get down to 10%. Just wanted ideas for next year when I’m ready.
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I love test and mast or test and primo for a nice clean and lean bulking cycle.
9/28/23
Weight Upon Rising 275.5
Morning Cardio
25min StairMaster
65min Tredmill
24hr Fasting
Meal of the day) 6oz King Salmon, 6oz tri-tip, 20 grams collagen, asparagus, 6 Keto Fat Cups Caramel Nut Clusters, handfull almonds, 1/2 avocado
Weight Upon Rising 275.5
Morning Cardio
25min StairMaster
65min Tredmill
24hr Fasting
Meal of the day) 6oz King Salmon, 6oz tri-tip, 20 grams collagen, asparagus, 6 Keto Fat Cups Caramel Nut Clusters, handfull almonds, 1/2 avocado
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@RoidRage69 weight is a bit high but I think its fine you're keeping things clean , I think its all the hgh
I have a freezer full of it and I have King Salmon Bellies on the way. They are almost all fat. The best part is my wife doesn’t like the bellies so they are all mine.
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It’s the gh and the other 550mg of injectables doin their thing. All water weight. At the rate I’m going my narrow stance squat press will = my regular stance PR by the end of Oct at 10lb lighter BW.
I'm going deep sea fishing next weekend. i will get pics up
What are you targeting? Swordfish? Blufin?
Most likely going to not really track food too much this weekend. Going to do a full reset and heal the body and just eat as much carbs as I can. Body is so depleted and needs to fill up with glycogen. Body is spent.
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not that far out man. just gonna be a 4 hour trip. maybe half mile off shore ... gonna go for Mahi, King mackerel.. if no go on those will go for the easy pickups snapper and grouper
first time using this captain so fingers crossed. he is well reviewed. plus hopefully weather cooperates
wow looks good. i love fresh fish
I'm not a huge fish fan
maybe i need to eat it fresh
maybe i need to eat it fresh
bro roidrage you are a stud
i liked you before you lost the weight though. not digging this new look as much
i liked you before you lost the weight though. not digging this new look as much
Mahi Mahi is awesome.
Dropping fat every week. Nothing has changed except for faster muscle growth.
Today looks to be a 500+ gram carb day. Will be my first surplus day since ive started this log.
9/29/23
Weight Upon Rising 274.4
Weight After Workout 274.1
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Hammer Iso Row Both Arms
270x15x3
Lat Pulldowns
145x15
130x15
130x11
Reverse Grip Chest Supported Rows
145x15x3
Cable Pullovers
100x18
100x15
Seated Shrugs
90x20x2
DB Seated Bicep Curls
20x15
25x15
DB Rear Delts
20x20
Post Workout) 15 grams glutamine, 2 packages Mentos, 1/2 package sour belts
Meal 1) 1 Package Smokey Cheese & Bacon Mashed Potatoes, 20 grams Collagen
Meal 2) 3 Cups Cheerios, 1 cup granola, 2.5 cups milk, 15 grams glutamine
Meal 3) Restraunt 5 Lamb Chops, Greek Salad, Greek Rice, pita bread, tzikti sauce
Meal 4) 3 Cups Cheerios, 1/2 cup granola, 2.5 cups milk, 15 grams glutamine
Meal 5) 1 Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 20 grams collagen, 5000mg Omega3 tbsp mct oil
Weight Upon Rising 274.4
Weight After Workout 274.1
Back/Bis#2
Hammer Iso Row Both Arms
270x15x3
Lat Pulldowns
145x15
130x15
130x11
Reverse Grip Chest Supported Rows
145x15x3
Cable Pullovers
100x18
100x15
Seated Shrugs
90x20x2
DB Seated Bicep Curls
20x15
25x15
DB Rear Delts
20x20
Post Workout) 15 grams glutamine, 2 packages Mentos, 1/2 package sour belts
Meal 1) 1 Package Smokey Cheese & Bacon Mashed Potatoes, 20 grams Collagen
Meal 2) 3 Cups Cheerios, 1 cup granola, 2.5 cups milk, 15 grams glutamine
Meal 3) Restraunt 5 Lamb Chops, Greek Salad, Greek Rice, pita bread, tzikti sauce
Meal 4) 3 Cups Cheerios, 1/2 cup granola, 2.5 cups milk, 15 grams glutamine
Meal 5) 1 Cup Catalina Crunch, Fairlife Protein Drink, 20 grams collagen, 5000mg Omega3 tbsp mct oil
It was actually a very light day. I should have made it clear on the rows that was total weight. 3 plates per side. I could do it for 25 reps or more but wanted to just move blood into the muscles today. Body is really stressing at this point from the inflammation and hgh.Great effort
What problems is the growth giving you?
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@RoidRage69 thats a lot of cheerios bro
i hope you change that out to oatmeal soon
whats the point of high carbs? you're trying to lean out right
Low, mid or high?
Mid. I do 5 plates for up to 15 reps on 1-arm when I am going heavy.
I am doing a deload higher carb couple days before going back to daily grind again. I haven’t done this since starting this log.
I am just having massive inflammation right now. I haven’t done a cycle in decades. The cycle is also affecting my sleep.
Same as me yesterday. We've all 3 (not Hammer but similar) at my local gym. I esp like the low and middle.
Those two are my favorites. I don’t really like the high row that much.
Sucks. I get inflammation issues every now and then. If you can get some Malaxocan it does a great job at knocking it down.
I have a bunch of that. I suppose as long as I don’t use it very long it could help short term and not mess me up? I was advised on here to not use it.
If you read some replies (Stevesmi I'm looking at you lol) EVERYTHING causes inflammation. That includes food. Technically correct but that's it.
We have, of course, the irony of training like maniacs, eating more than most AND using PEDs.
Now that said adding ANY anti-inflammatory to the mix IS an issue and Malaxocan IS (as per one comment online) a SUPER version which should only ever be used for very short periods. ALL such drugs often cause bleeding and deffo irritation of the gut
as we get older inflammation is going to be very common. Just our body's way of healing ourselves after a brutal workout
that fasting will help tremendously also taking breaks from the gym will help to let the body catch up
that fasting will help tremendously also taking breaks from the gym will help to let the body catch up
Arguably part of what causes muscle to grow in response
Ok so basically inflammation is a good thing.
I take 1000mg turmeric daily. Is that enough or should I try more?
If it gets to a level where you are not able to recover properly, it isn’t good. I am not sure that further stressing your body with things like fasting and carb cutting are likely to improve on what is basically a stress response.
I’ve been using it for 4-5 months now. No I’ll effects. Nothing wrong in the bloods.
We put a lot of things in our bodies. Some cause high blood pressure so we take pills to control it. This is no different. Anything we let get out of control in our bodies is not good.
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Thinking it’s time for me to switch to a more traditional diet with lentils and broccoli as my carb sources.
Inflammation is a naturally occurring response to stress on the body whether it's an injury or just a response to training. In that sense it's good. When it becomes chronic and out of control that's when it becomes a problem. In my mind taking something to keep it under control is better than letting go uncontrolled.
Some. It IS a part of the factor's which cause growth but also a red flag for over doing it (qed sore shoulders)
50-60% of your bodies energy is wasted on digesting food. the idea behind fasting is to stress your body to make it stronger, which leads to greater rest and repair. they don't stuff peoples throats with food who are in the hospital and in a coma for a reason
in this case roidrage is older and his history as a fisherman doesn't help. hell i can barely walk after a 4 hour fishing trip so can't imagine doing that for a living everyday. he also is over training a lot in this log to his credit. its a recipe for disaster but fasting isn't the reason he is having trouble recovering at all. its the opposite, fasting is allowing him to push much more then he normally would, it also shaves a solid hour off the amount of sleep he needs every night
the fallacy though is that eating more reduces stress and inflammation when it is the opposite. what do they require people do ahead of heart surgery or any surgery for that matter? they require them to fast. they don't tell them to go carb load the night before. the reason is they cannot do the surgery if the person has inflammation. so in this case hell no on increasing carbs. if anything he needs to tighten up his diet more. the cereal is a huge culprit...
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lentils are a no go for many.. too rough to digest. same with beans and peas. some ethnicities have no problems digesting them and some do. also there is a reason in Costa Rica they eat lots of Papaya with their beans, papaya is great for digestion.
brocolli is good, but needs to be cooked. i eat a lot of cooked spinach and brocolli myself
They feed nutrients continuously through an iv in many instances.
inflammation is the body releasing things in the body to help you recover.
to shut off inflammation with drugs, and then go weight train is buffoonery in my mind. because you will simply cause more damage.
i think overall you need to listen to your body and back off the hammering of the body. turn to low impact cardio and do things like hot yoga. go super light with weight training. when i hit rock bottom in my mid 30's from years of hammering my body this is where i turned. at that time i couldn't even sleep without half my body being numb
yes water and electrolytes. but they aren't stuffing them with cheerios and mcdonalds burgers.
i see too many guys in the gym who are walking injured who are strung up on aspirin just to sleep. im' guilty too. i once got a cortisone shot into my neck, then the next day was back in the gym doing weighted pullups and benching 300. that isn't what i want to see roidrage end up doing.
Didn't realize that fasting allows your body to sleep less. So basically keeping feeding windows short allows for less energy going to digesting and more going to recovery?
yes, when i do prolong fasts i find myself only needing 6 hours of sleep. i was waking up 4am with tons of energy that i didn't know what to do with
because your body isn't using up energy to digest food. remember when you eat a meal your body has to work hard to process that meal, plus you use up calories to eat that meal too. when you fast you aren't getting cals in and you aren't dispensing them as much either, so your body will require less sleep.
let's say you were severely injured in a car accident or you had a heart attack. they put you in the hospital for a week and will only give you fluids via an IV and you are bed ridden. that is the ultimate way to rest and repair your body is why they do that. so let's say you said fuck it i want to heal up my body
i'm actually doing this mid october. where i take an entire week off from the gym and i just do a water fast. Monday-Friday. that is the best way to heal and repair the body. i won't sleep as much that week because i am fasting all day, but i will try to sleep as much as i can anyway and try and not stress about anything mentally. i will probably just do a light walk in the evening but that is all the activity i will do.
then i will break my fast on saturday with some fruit, then on sunday eat a meal or two. then monday i am back in the gym.
i highly recommend that sort of thing especially for anyone who is 40 years old + and who is like us where we are balls to the wall with our training. all the inflammation in your body will subside bigtime. remember guys like Big Ramy and Hadi Choopan celebrate Rammadan and fast for 1 month sunrise to sunset. they do it for religious reasons but more importantly it helps their bodies recharge so they can hammer their body the other 11 months out of the year. i believe this gives them a huge advantage over others, these are Mr. Olympia champions who even do this.
I wont even try it unless the wife did it as well. It would be like having alcohol in a house with a recovering alcoholic.
it is harder to do it when you live with someone. 100%
when i was living alone i could just empty out my kitchen
a lot of people go to 'fasting resorts' for that reason.
you can still eat with your wife though at home, and cook her dinner etc. just drink water while she eats.
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hope you feel better and can hit the gym hard again
my favorite thing when i'm hurting is to take a vacation and just relax and soak in some sun
bro why not take alaska cruise for a week and chill
I am not sure any of that is right. We know that fasting increases stress hormones dramatically, and that carbs decrease stress hormones. Those hormones are basically 1:1 correlated with inflammation and a weakened immune system over time.
There are a number of reasons surgery patients fast before surgery, but none of them are related to inflammation. They are mainly related to not wanting complications with anesthesia, and regurgitating undirected food into your throat and dying.
I just don’t think there is any evidence that being unfed is ever beneficial for anything physical. We now know that fasted cardio is basically bullshit, that fasting does lead to catabolism, as does any extreme calorie restriction. There are clearly some perceived mental benefits, but physical, outside of extreme circumstances, I have not seen.
I am not saying you haven’t seen it for yourself or in clients. All I am saying, and I have said this a lot of times on here about other things, is that the science behind it seems iffy.
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doing great bro
The only place I am overtraining is the cardio. Carbs do help alot in recovering. I know my body better than anyone else. Go back and look at my training and tell where I am overdoing it other than the cardio. For that reason I am drastically reducing cardio going forward. My back is now fully recovered from last Friday. I had massive inflammation due to breaking down of muscle to rebuild it back better. That is what we are trying to do. I havent done anything extra heavy compared to 6 weeks ago. The only thing I have done different is to go from 150-175mg of Test Cyp per week to
250mg Test Cyp/week
200mg Masteron/week
90mg NPP/week
3IU GH 5 days/week
If anything my recovery should be drastically increasing which I think it is. I am lifting light compared to what I am capable of. I am just not lifting heavy because I don't want to make my shoulder any worse. My shoulder injury happened well before coming on here. Going to drastically increase calories above 2000 day as well. I am in no hurry to lose the last 30lbs of fat. 1 pound per week is fast enough at this point going forward.
250mg Test Cyp/week
200mg Masteron/week
90mg NPP/week
3IU GH 5 days/week
If anything my recovery should be drastically increasing which I think it is. I am lifting light compared to what I am capable of. I am just not lifting heavy because I don't want to make my shoulder any worse. My shoulder injury happened well before coming on here. Going to drastically increase calories above 2000 day as well. I am in no hurry to lose the last 30lbs of fat. 1 pound per week is fast enough at this point going forward.
You absolutely do not look like you are overtraining to me. Between food and sleep, you look like you are under recovering. So I think you are on the right path here. But, like you said, only you know your body, so I can’t tell you which foods make you feel good, and which make you feel like shit, digestion wise.
There is nothing I eat that causes digestive issues. In fact I do very well on carbs. I am used to eating 5000 cal per day on the boat and losing weight over the course of 30 years. I no longer work so I am in a sense getting lots of rest.
Edit: actually the only time I get digestive issues is when I am not eating carbs and going out and eating a 4 start spicy thai meal. I get the runs everytime. Thats the only time of the week I have issues.
And I agree with you 100%. I am under eating and just need to eat more. I am eating pretty damn clean. The only thing that is not 100% clean is the cereal which is only done on ultra high carb loading days. I dont do this often. Once my cheerios is gone I am switching it to oatmeal and lentils. I do very well on lentils. No issues what so ever. There is no food out there that I have issues with.
Also the Mrs. had her first shot of test this morning and will start anavar either next Friday or the following week. I expect lots of cardio at home.
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Never stay on the sidelines. I’m in it to win it.
There is plenty of evidence. Listen to the podcasts we have done on fasting And the threads I have put up I have detailed all of that. Cancer doctors are now fasting patients. It works amazingly well
09/30
Weight 274.5
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Hammer Decline
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Hammer Incline
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Seated Machine Dips
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Weight 274.5
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35x20
Lateral Raise Machine
80x35
10min Stairmaster
just FYI with carbs
amazingly people in blue zones eat 60%+ of their macros in carbs, but they eat the right carbs. lots of fruits, veggies for example. but fruit is supposed to be bad for us. in costa rica they eat tropical fruits in every meal, in japan they eat 50% of their diet in sweet potatoes. carbs aren't bad, but the wrong carbs are bad.. people there aren't following keto diets orlow carb diets. they are getting in a ton of carbs .. obviously they also do a lot of fasting (6 months of fasting in Ikaria greece) and they also have a very strong affinity to do things like gardening or walking.
yet in America everyone wants to do a no carb or low carb diet to lose weight, eat a lot of junk food and go to the gym for an hour to make up for that. it doesn't work well for us. the Boomer generation is the fattest generation in USA history. they also are living LESS LONG then the generation prior. that is scary considering our medical advancements. i know people who have had multiple heart attacks, cancers, and diabetes who are still alive in their 70's thanks to modern medicine. yet they STILL are living less long. at some point we need to put our hands up and admit our diet strategy is wrong
something is very wrong with how we approach nutrition, its been bastardized by food companies bigtime. it is pretty much we are too stupid to figure out the difference between a cake and a sweet potato so lets just tell people to not eat any carbs. we are too stupid to know that 3000 calories of ice cream and pizza is not as healthy as 3000 calories of fruits, veggies and grassfed beef. it has become dart board dieting and it confuses the shit out of people.
there is absolutely a method to the madness where meal timing matters. fasting matters, fasting cardio is more effective then eating 1000 calories then going jogging. it 100% matters. people get away with bad habits all the time, but eventually it will catch up to you. look at Tom Brady vs. Chad Johnson. Chad Johnson should be a hall of famer but he isn't. you know why? cause he ate mcdonalds and fruity pebbles everyday and bragged about it. his career didn't last long, a shame cause he was the best WR in the league at one point and had incredible genetics. Tom Brady on the other hand never put any junk in his body ever and made sure he slept 9-10 hours a night. it does matter. every single thing you put into your body alters your DNA
mobster and I talk about this shit all the time on the podcasts but thought i would just add it here for reference
amazingly people in blue zones eat 60%+ of their macros in carbs, but they eat the right carbs. lots of fruits, veggies for example. but fruit is supposed to be bad for us. in costa rica they eat tropical fruits in every meal, in japan they eat 50% of their diet in sweet potatoes. carbs aren't bad, but the wrong carbs are bad.. people there aren't following keto diets orlow carb diets. they are getting in a ton of carbs .. obviously they also do a lot of fasting (6 months of fasting in Ikaria greece) and they also have a very strong affinity to do things like gardening or walking.
yet in America everyone wants to do a no carb or low carb diet to lose weight, eat a lot of junk food and go to the gym for an hour to make up for that. it doesn't work well for us. the Boomer generation is the fattest generation in USA history. they also are living LESS LONG then the generation prior. that is scary considering our medical advancements. i know people who have had multiple heart attacks, cancers, and diabetes who are still alive in their 70's thanks to modern medicine. yet they STILL are living less long. at some point we need to put our hands up and admit our diet strategy is wrong
something is very wrong with how we approach nutrition, its been bastardized by food companies bigtime. it is pretty much we are too stupid to figure out the difference between a cake and a sweet potato so lets just tell people to not eat any carbs. we are too stupid to know that 3000 calories of ice cream and pizza is not as healthy as 3000 calories of fruits, veggies and grassfed beef. it has become dart board dieting and it confuses the shit out of people.
there is absolutely a method to the madness where meal timing matters. fasting matters, fasting cardio is more effective then eating 1000 calories then going jogging. it 100% matters. people get away with bad habits all the time, but eventually it will catch up to you. look at Tom Brady vs. Chad Johnson. Chad Johnson should be a hall of famer but he isn't. you know why? cause he ate mcdonalds and fruity pebbles everyday and bragged about it. his career didn't last long, a shame cause he was the best WR in the league at one point and had incredible genetics. Tom Brady on the other hand never put any junk in his body ever and made sure he slept 9-10 hours a night. it does matter. every single thing you put into your body alters your DNA
mobster and I talk about this shit all the time on the podcasts but thought i would just add it here for reference
You act as if nobody knows that pizza is bad compared to fruit and vegetables. That is simply false. Maybe your clients don’t know any better but that doesn’t mean in general. People know more than you give them credit. People eat the way they do because bad food tastes better is more convenient and costs less. There is a reason why McDonald’s does well in a recession.
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Another thing. I am not willing to sacrifice any muscle over the next year. I am not in a lose fat at any cost so please stop with generalized nonsense about how carbs are bad for you. Cereal is not bad for you. It’s a way to get glycogen back into muscle fast. If it’s so bad why do all swimmers eat cereal multiple times per day and drink chocolate milk all day long? Anyone who burns 3000+ cal per day can eat carbs and not worry as long as they are keeping blood sugar in check.
I checked my blood sugars every hour yesterday while carb loading and it stayed under 120 the entire 9 hour loading.
I checked my blood sugars every hour yesterday while carb loading and it stayed under 120 the entire 9 hour loading.
Food companies spend billions to market junk food as healthy. they use athletes to do it all the time.
people are very dumb on nutrition because of Marketing. It works great. They convinced an entire generation that fats We’re bad for us but sugar is okay. I don’t blame people for that at all But I can’t fight false nutritional information on my own
People are smarter than you give them credit. Everyone who is overweight knows the food they eat is not doing them any favors and they need to eat less or get in the gym. Food also makes people happy when they are depressed. Many different reasons for the reason people eat what they do. In moderation things are fine.
If I get down to 255 by Christmas I will have abs. I am in recomp mode now. This cycle is giving me pumps I’ve never had. How long does GH cause water retention? Does it continue or does it hit a wall?
I’ve argued with people who tell me cigarettes dont cause cancer
I’ve also argued with people who think alcohol is fine.
Some people are delusional and hate taking responsibility for their lousy choices.
Some people but not the majority.
Is it true that marijuana decreases inflammation? I am wondering if it’s something that I would benefit from. Could also help me sleep better?
nothing wrong with carbs man. i think you mis understood my post
i was being sarcastic when i said 'carbs are bad'
my point was people in blue zones eat tons of carbs.
you can be successful eating a high % of your macros in carbs
and you can be successful doing keto.
which was my point. its YOUR LOG. you need to do it as you see fit. i'm just point that out for people who read this. there are gonna be about 100K views on this log after all said and done
i was being sarcastic when i said 'carbs are bad'
my point was people in blue zones eat tons of carbs.
you can be successful eating a high % of your macros in carbs
and you can be successful doing keto.
which was my point. its YOUR LOG. you need to do it as you see fit. i'm just point that out for people who read this. there are gonna be about 100K views on this log after all said and done
Oh ok. I agree we just need to make sure and keep everything in moderation.
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May help you sleep. But inflammation in the muscle is what you want for growth. These people that take ice baths, yes it good for recovery for endurance athletes, but for muscle growth it pointless.
This is exactly right, and one of the more interesting, nuanced issues with exercise adaptation. The same goes for oxidative stresses, and whether to use antioxidants like NAC, metformin and TUDCA to combat some of the more dangerous oxidative stresses from AAS. In the end, we don’t want to compromise your muscle gains or your lifespan, so we try to balance the various inputs the way we can to get something like 80% of the benefits with only 10% of the downsides. It’s definitely walking a narrow path.
I thinking about going a day without all the pills just to get a detox away from them. Stopped taking metformin every day. Will most likely only take on days like yesterday but maybe only 250mg.
Most of what you are taking decreases oxidative stress and inflammation. I’d be careful of pulling back on it.
What I might do, if I were you, would be to find a DEXA place, if you live near a city. That will give you a significant look inside (literally) what is happening w/r/t muscle, water and fat. If you are making big changes, being able to track them in a way that actually works makes a lot of sense, because there is not reason to go through the pain of making change if the outcomes are suboptimal.
I am just worried about metformin effect on sleep. It has been shown to effect sleep quality in a good portion of users.
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@RoidRage69 if you're smoking marijuana, that explains those big refeed days from you
if you want to sleep better get full spectrum CBD instead of marijuana, less likely to get the munchies imo
How you like the omad diet?
No I don’t smoke it. Used too but not anymore. Just brainstorming for ideas.
I actual have metformin at home just decided against utilizing it because of the effects I heard about stunting muscle growth, study could be wrong but I didn't want to risk it.
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