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Flyingandrei

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Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
 
willipede said:
Reta works well on a lower fat diet and has been shown to improved lipid panels whilst on cycle. I'm running about 1mg per week, split into 2 doses.

Semaglutide I havent personally tried, although my ex tried it, from what I could tell it had more of an appetite suppression for a similar mg dosage and worked better on a lower carb diet
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Arent you the guy in oz? If so what source do you use for reta? Im real picky who i go with.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Arent you the guy in oz? If so what source do you use for reta? Im real picky who i go with.
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Yeah bro, I'm using @Liquid Gold Labs for all my gear. Everything has been absolutely flawless

The reta actually blew me away, I was shocked the impact that it had.

I initially was doing 1mg e4d and it was actually working too well, so we lowered the dosage to 0.5mg e4d.
 
willipede said:
Yeah bro, I'm using @Liquid Gold Labs for all my gear. Everything has been absolutely flawless

The reta actually blew me away, I was shocked the impact that it had.

I initially was doing 1mg e4d and it was actually working too well, so we lowered the dosage to 0.5mg e4d.
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Just checked your log. Sick classic physique! Gear stack looks the goods man! I defo am going to get on the reta. I need it as im like 106kg and need to enhance the cut. Peak bulk was 125kg 😂
 
It's all about cost. Sema is way cheaper than the others. Sema is also mg per mg stronger than all of them. You need to use 5X more Retra than sema for the same results which is why it's so much more expensive. My wife and I both use sema and have lost zero muscle mass while on. People who are losing 20lbs in a month on Reta are losing a ton of muscle.
 
RoidRage69 said:
It's all about cost. Sema is way cheaper than the others. Sema is also mg per mg stronger than all of them. You need to use 5X more Retra than sema for the same results which is why it's so much more expensive. My wife and I both use sema and have lost zero muscle mass while on. People who are losing 20lbs in a month on Reta are losing a ton of muscle.
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Dude just seen your log. Holy anabolic goodness! And age too! Legend. Right, that is very interesting to know. I need to see more feedback on this thread post as ill highly likely be getting 1 or the other.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Dude just seen your log. Holy anabolic goodness! And age too! Legend. Right, that is very interesting to know. I need to see more feedback on this thread post as ill highly likely be getting 1 or the other.
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You won't go wrong on what ever one you pick. They destroy appetite. I have trouble eating 2000 cals on a workout day.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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@Flyingandrei

you need to listen to the latest podcasts on the GLP-1's we did. they explain it all
let's compare them shall we

semaglutide is the oldest one. been around longest. but its a single agonist
tirzepatide is the 2nd and an improvement and a dual agonist
but retatrutide blows both away as its a triple agonist. it does 3 things:
GIP
GLP-1
GCG

the biggest studies show semaglutide avg weight loss was 15%
tirzepatide was 18%
and retatrutide was 22%+

novo nordisk (semaglutide) stock is down 60% off its high and CEO recently got pushed out. they are getting their clocks cleaned by Ely Lilly's tirzepatide and once reta gets approved it will be a done deal. ELY stock is up 700%. the market knows once reta gets approved that semaglutide will be a dinosaur in the industry so if novo is going to survive they better come up with something better. maybe a quadruple agonist lol. also the side effects are much less on reta vs. sema. sema has a much higher chance of fucking with your thyroid or other issues long term. reta has been shown to be much less of a risk of sides in the 4 year studies. so for me its an easy decision to go with reta.

i can see why some people more comfortable with semaglutide, i mean its been fda approved the longest and reta is still in stage 2/3. but if you dive into how these work, you will see that retatrutide is far superior across the board. the stock prices should tell you the future of what the market thinks. usually doctors are super stubborn so i expect them to continue to prescribe semaglutide at high rates even once reta is approved. but the smart ones will quickly put their patients on reta

so based on the science + my humble opinion retatrutide is the best thing for fat loss right now on the market. and the studies prove it. FAR better then clen, dnp, albuterol, gw, sr, hgh frag, stims, etc etc. and better then sema or tirz. it is so amazing not just because it turns your body into a fat burning machine, but also because it doesn't put you into hypo or speed up your HR. in fact it improves your lipids and reduces fatty tissue in the organs.

my 2 cents but you do your own homework.
 
stevesmi said:
@Flyingandrei

you need to listen to the latest podcasts on the GLP-1's we did. they explain it all
let's compare them shall we

semaglutide is the oldest one. been around longest. but its a single agonist
tirzepatide is the 2nd and an improvement and a dual agonist
but retatrutide blows both away as its a triple agonist. it does 3 things:
GIP
GLP-1
GCG

the biggest studies show semaglutide avg weight loss was 15%
tirzepatide was 18%
and retatrutide was 22%+

novo nordisk stock is down 60% off its high and CEO recently got pushed out. they are getting their clocks cleaned by Ely Lilly's tirzepatide and once reta gets approved it will be a done deal. ELY stock is up 700%. the market knows once reta gets approved that semaglutide will be a dinosaur in the industry. also the side effects are much less on reta vs. sema. sema has a much higher chance of fucking with your thyroid or other issues long term. reta has been shown to be much less of a risk of sides.

my 2 cents but you do your own homework.
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Hey!!!! Im getting a response from the guy who got me into 3 day fasting and broke many myths I had around losing muscle on it! When you post i take notes!

My only issue is cost for reta and source l. Im very picky who i go with as a supplier l. Especially in Aus.
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey!!!! Im getting a response from the guy who got me into 3 day fasting and broke many myths I had around losing muscle on it! When you post i take notes!

My only issue is cost for reta and source l. Im very picky who i go with as a supplier l. Especially in Aus.
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reta is harder to get even in the USA. even napsgear is constantly selling out and having to restock. i actually just grabbed some more vials from dragon but it was international. if a source is smart they better wake up and carry it. cause the demand is going to be insane over the next couple years once people figure it out. i'm getting all my clients on it who are overweight but only if they have their diet/training dialed in first and the results they are having are sensational. people who have never been under a certain body fat are getting there thanks to this stuff. i'm a big believer in it
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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@Flyingandrei Since you contacted me in private, I wrote up a bit of an info piece for you.

To start I suggest reading our community Retatrutide and Semaglutide threads
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...about-usage-benefits-and-side-effects.102660/

Listen to the podcasts by @stevesmi and @Mobster
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...71-retatrutide-101-ly-3437943-by-euro-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-619-semaglutide-ozempic-introduction/

Retatrutide is way more aggressive if you compare to sema imo. It's not just a GLP-1 agonist like semaglutide. It also targets GIP and glucagon receptors, so you're getting better appetite control, higher energy expenditure, and improved insulin sensitivity all at once. Fat loss feels faster, especially in areas that are usually stubborn. Appetite is crushed in the first week. Some days you literally have to remind yourself to eat. Side effects are similar to sema in the beginning. Bit of nausea, maybe some loose stools, but most people get past it faster. One big difference is that you don't feel as sluggish on it. Training stays solid and energy doesn't flatline. You do need daily psyllium and probiotics/digestive enzymes with it.

Semaglutide has way more user data behind it. It works, no question. You’ll eat less, drop weight, and it’s easier to find legit sources. But the fat loss is slower. You start strong, then hit a plateau around week six to eight unless you bump the dose. At higher doses, sides get worse. Some guys complain about feeling like zombies. Low energy, poor pumps in the gym, and no motivation to train. Not ideal if you're running gear and trying to stay active.

If you're enhanced and already have your training and diet mostly dialed in, Retatrutide is getting the nod from most serious loggers right now. It leans you out quicker without killing your drive. Just make sure the source is solid because it’s newer and not everyone is carrying the real deal yet. If you check the reta thread I posted above, you'll see updates of logs and thoughts.
 
LevButlerov said:
@Flyingandrei Since you contacted me in private, I wrote up a bit of an info piece for you.

To start I suggest reading our community Retatrutide and Semaglutide threads
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...about-usage-benefits-and-side-effects.102660/

Listen to the podcasts by @stevesmi and @Mobster
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...71-retatrutide-101-ly-3437943-by-euro-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-619-semaglutide-ozempic-introduction/

Retatrutide is way more aggressive if you compare to sema imo. It's not just a GLP-1 agonist like semaglutide. It also targets GIP and glucagon receptors, so you're getting better appetite control, higher energy expenditure, and improved insulin sensitivity all at once. Fat loss feels faster, especially in areas that are usually stubborn. Appetite is crushed in the first week. Some days you literally have to remind yourself to eat. Side effects are similar to sema in the beginning. Bit of nausea, maybe some loose stools, but most people get past it faster. One big difference is that you don't feel as sluggish on it. Training stays solid and energy doesn't flatline. You do need daily psyllium and probiotics/digestive enzymes with it.

Semaglutide has way more user data behind it. It works, no question. You’ll eat less, drop weight, and it’s easier to find legit sources. But the fat loss is slower. You start strong, then hit a plateau around week six to eight unless you bump the dose. At higher doses, sides get worse. Some guys complain about feeling like zombies. Low energy, poor pumps in the gym, and no motivation to train. Not ideal if you're running gear and trying to stay active.

If you're enhanced and already have your training and diet mostly dialed in, Retatrutide is getting the nod from most serious loggers right now. It leans you out quicker without killing your drive. Just make sure the source is solid because it’s newer and not everyone is carrying the real deal yet. If you check the reta thread I posted above, you'll see updates of logs and thoughts.
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@BeMe good read for you.
 
LevButlerov said:
@Flyingandrei Since you contacted me in private, I wrote up a bit of an info piece for you.

To start I suggest reading our community Retatrutide and Semaglutide threads
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/retatrutide-its-the-real-deal.103339/
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...about-usage-benefits-and-side-effects.102660/

Listen to the podcasts by @stevesmi and @Mobster
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...71-retatrutide-101-ly-3437943-by-euro-pharma/
https://www.evolutionary.org/evolutionary-org-619-semaglutide-ozempic-introduction/

Retatrutide is way more aggressive if you compare to sema imo. It's not just a GLP-1 agonist like semaglutide. It also targets GIP and glucagon receptors, so you're getting better appetite control, higher energy expenditure, and improved insulin sensitivity all at once. Fat loss feels faster, especially in areas that are usually stubborn. Appetite is crushed in the first week. Some days you literally have to remind yourself to eat. Side effects are similar to sema in the beginning. Bit of nausea, maybe some loose stools, but most people get past it faster. One big difference is that you don't feel as sluggish on it. Training stays solid and energy doesn't flatline. You do need daily psyllium and probiotics/digestive enzymes with it.

Semaglutide has way more user data behind it. It works, no question. You’ll eat less, drop weight, and it’s easier to find legit sources. But the fat loss is slower. You start strong, then hit a plateau around week six to eight unless you bump the dose. At higher doses, sides get worse. Some guys complain about feeling like zombies. Low energy, poor pumps in the gym, and no motivation to train. Not ideal if you're running gear and trying to stay active.

If you're enhanced and already have your training and diet mostly dialed in, Retatrutide is getting the nod from most serious loggers right now. It leans you out quicker without killing your drive. Just make sure the source is solid because it’s newer and not everyone is carrying the real deal yet. If you check the reta thread I posted above, you'll see updates of logs and thoughts.
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https://www.evolutionary.org/evolut...emaglutide-101-ozempic-wegovy-by-para-pharma/

^^^^ that is the far better episode we did on semaglutide. it was a full hour and much more recent.

we are also going to be doing a part 2 on all of these GLP-1's this month as there has been a lot of new info coming out
 
stevesmi said:
reta is harder to get even in the USA. even napsgear is constantly selling out and having to restock. i actually just grabbed some more vials from dragon but it was international. if a source is smart they better wake up and carry it. cause the demand is going to be insane over the next couple years once people figure it out. i'm getting all my clients on it who are overweight but only if they have their diet/training dialed in first and the results they are having are sensational. people who have never been under a certain body fat are getting there thanks to this stuff. i'm a big believer in it
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This is exactly what why im skeptical about a source here in aus because i don't want to fork out and get fake reta sold as sema lol.

Legend Steve! Im down to try Reta if i can get a legit source here in aus 👌🏼
 
Flyingandrei said:
How long do you run it for?
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I will probably come off end of July for a couple months so I can build some muscle up. I am tired of not being able to eat much. I don't think anyone should be on too long. The good thing about sema is we didn't have any rebound from going off.
I still can't believe people would even bash sema. It works better mg per mg than all of them and my wife and I have the same small sides as the others. Dry mouth amd comstipation is the only thing we get. I at least crap once per day so I guess not too bad. Very rare info more than a day while on sema. Probably 1-2 days per month where I miss a day of crapping.

It all comes down to how important a couple extra lbs of fat loss is worth. Is it worth an extra $2000 for 3 lbs of fat loss? Imo no way.
 
Flyingandrei said:
This is exactly what why im skeptical about a source here in aus because i don't want to fork out and get fake reta sold as sema lol.

Legend Steve! Im down to try Reta if i can get a legit source here in aus 👌🏼
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i'm sure the aussie guys can help you find a good place

another thing i didn't add above was a study on Reta was done on both males/females from 18-75. the fact that even a 70+ person and a teenager is being given this stuff for a year shows something to me. you would never put a 70 year old on clen for example for fat loss. that should tell you how safe this stuff is. and there were 0 deaths from it and 0 cases of hypo symptoms. that is insane considering the study had 15000 people
 
RoidRage69 said:
I will probably come off end of July for a couple months so I can build some muscle up. I am tired of not being able to eat much. I don't think anyone should be on too long. The good thing about sema is we didn't have any rebound from going off.
I still can't believe people would even bash sema. It works better mg per mg than all of them and my wife and I have the same small sides as the others. Dry mouth amd comstipation is the only thing we get. I at least crap once per day so I guess not too bad. Very rare info more than a day while on sema. Probably 1-2 days per month where I miss a day of crapping.

It all comes down to how important a couple extra lbs of fat loss is worth. Is it worth an extra $2000 for 3 lbs of fat loss? Imo no way.
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@RoidRage69 I think based on what your goals are and budget semaglutide is perfectly fine for your situation
but once reta is FDA approved it will quickly overtake semaglutide on the market as it is superior in every way and the price should come down as well. one of the issues in the USA is insurance isn't allowing people to cover it if its prescribed for weight loss, only for diabetics. so that is causing people to spend $1000 a month for it. lucky for us you can go to napsgear right now and get reta for around $85 for a 10mg vial. that isn't bad at all and that vial will last you 5 weeks at 2mgs a week
 
LevButlerov said:
@BeMe good read for you.
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GLP-1's? I did just watch a video about a new research drug that combines a GLP-1 with a myostatin inhibitor that shows massive gains in monkeys.

I'll definitely listen to the podcasts. I tried listening to a couple already but the onces I wanted to listen weren't actually available. I'll give both those a listen though.

Just a bit confused how a GLP-1 relates to me trying to gain, but I'm sure I'll understand once I give the podcasts a listen.

Interested to hear @Mobster talk. He only posts in single sentences lol
 
stevesmi said:
@RoidRage69 I think based on what your goals are and budget semaglutide is perfectly fine for your situation
but once reta is FDA approved it will quickly overtake semaglutide on the market as it is superior in every way and the price should come down as well. one of the issues in the USA is insurance isn't allowing people to cover it if its prescribed for weight loss, only for diabetics. so that is causing people to spend $1000 a month for it. lucky for us you can go to napsgear right now and get reta for around $85 for a 10mg vial. that isn't bad at all and that vial will last you 5 weeks at 2mgs a week
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I would have to take 7mg per week of that stuff for it to be as effective as 1mg sema so that's a no go. The reason it works so well for you at low dose is because you're not the type of person the drug was designed for. Give yourself 20 more years of bad eating, lots of drugs and horrible blood sugar and you will understand how a person like me needs more than a perfectly healthy individual like yourself. I bet .5mg of sema would kick your ass. lol. 😂 You would fast for a month easy. I will try it one day but I don't expect it to be much different as far as effectiveness because k already have zero appetite and in don't need anything more effective at that in any way. I guess I am just a good responder.
 
RoidRage69 said:
I would have to take 7mg per week of that stuff for it to be as effective as 1mg sema so that's a no go. The reason it works so well for you at low dose is because you're not the type of person the drug was designed for. Give yourself 20 more years of bad eating, lots of drugs and horrible blood sugar and you will understand how a person like me needs more than a perfectly healthy individual like yourself. I bet .5mg of sema would kick your ass. lol. 😂 You would fast for a month easy. I will try it one day but I don't expect it to be much different as far as effectiveness because k already have zero appetite and in don't need anything more effective at that in any way. I guess I am just a good responder.
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you might be correct. the studies on reta did have obese individuals using up to 12mgs a week. so in that respect i can see how it can be super expensive. so good point on that.
 
RoidRage69 said:
I would have to take 7mg per week of that stuff for it to be as effective as 1mg sema so that's a no go. The reason it works so well for you at low dose is because you're not the type of person the drug was designed for. Give yourself 20 more years of bad eating, lots of drugs and horrible blood sugar and you will understand how a person like me needs more than a perfectly healthy individual like yourself. I bet .5mg of sema would kick your ass. lol. 😂 You would fast for a month easy. I will try it one day but I don't expect it to be much different as far as effectiveness because k already have zero appetite and in don't need anything more effective at that in any way. I guess I am just a good responder.
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the reta will make the GLP-1 effects better. it adds the element of GIP and GCG on top as a triple agonist. so you get what sema gives you, plus you get GIP and GCG benefits on top of that. i do agree that the extra cost would make no sense for your goals

reminds me of when GW first came out in the bodybuilding world. it cost $350 a bottle for a months worth. now you can find it legit for $60.
 
BeMe said:
GLP-1's? I did just watch a video about a new research drug that combines a GLP-1 with a myostatin inhibitor that shows massive gains in monkeys.

I'll definitely listen to the podcasts. I tried listening to a couple already but the onces I wanted to listen weren't actually available. I'll give both those a listen though.

Just a bit confused how a GLP-1 relates to me trying to gain, but I'm sure I'll understand once I give the podcasts a listen.

Interested to hear @Mobster talk. He only posts in single sentences lol
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More along the lines of GLP-1 retatrutide for overall long term cutting if you go that route. :D @BeMe
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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@Flyingandrei bros side effects on both stomach issues if you overeat. just make sure you don't eat too much and you'll be good.
 
ceo said:
@Flyingandrei bros side effects on both stomach issues if you overeat. just make sure you don't eat too much and you'll be good.
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Thanks bro! It will be easy bro. Im used to 3 day fasts and i force eat after finishing those lol.

Keen to be lean. I wana hit that test mast var lol
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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@Flyingandrei there is a similar comparison
but reta is better and more modern. semaglutide is old school
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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@Flyingandrei bro seem like these products good. i trying to convince wife to use them. she like 415 pounds SSBBW
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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retatrutide is #1 hands down
i would do trizepatide if you cant' find reta

sema is very outdated. it was good like 10 years ago

@Flyingandrei
 
rodannis789 said:
My ol girl think 150 too big but she like 5'6".
More cushion for the pushin
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bro she tiny lol. you need to move up to a bigger women. you know you like it
 
Flyingandrei said:
Hey lads. I want to ask for comparisons on the following.

Retatrutide vs semaglutide. Who vouches for what, what have people notice in terms of side affects form each? I'm doing solid online research but always good to see people in here add to the conversation with experience.

I've been advised to jump into the peptide world and knowing myself i will as i am enhanced already.
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I think they both are good stuff. if you like semaglutide for its longer history then go with that. but if you want something more better then get reta
tirz is in between
 
2Thick said:
I think they both are good stuff. if you like semaglutide for its longer history then go with that. but if you want something more better then get reta
tirz is in between
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Im going with reta for sure
 
Flyingandrei said:
Thanks bro! It will be easy bro. Im used to 3 day fasts and i force eat after finishing those lol.

Keen to be lean. I wana hit that test mast var lol
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bros hell yeah. nothing gonna stop you!
 
Haven’t personally used but I would go with Reta
 
Either works
 
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