Cerebrolysin or Cerebroprotein hydrolysate experience?

[willipede]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

 

[Freki]

I suffer from nerve issues

Sorry bro haven't tried either so no answer for your question, but wondering what your nerve issues are?

 

[willipede]

Sorry bro haven't tried either so no answer for your question, but wondering what your nerve issues are?

Have some nerve impingement in cervical spine, bilateral ulnar nerve entrapment and bilateral carpal tunnel.

Few other things going on on top of that too unfortunately. So trying my best to get every chance at recovery mentally and physically

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

I’ve used cerebrolysin with a few guys that had nerve issues from injuries and they all noticed better recovery and mental sharpness over time. Cerebroprotein hydrolysate is similar but in practice seemed milder and less consistent compared to cerebrolysin.
If you’re considering it I’d lean cerebrolysin since it’s the one I’ve seen give the most real noticeable results, but not sure if you can get the real deal brother @willipede

 

[willipede]

@Npcclassicphysique champ thanks that's really good to hear.

I have seen that cerebrolysin is a superior product but as im in aus a bit harder to source.

I have been given a 60mg sample of the Cerebroprotein hydrolysate so I know atleast I can get that.

Did they all use a similar dosing protocols?

 

[stevesmi]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

i'm not sure from what i've read that they are that successful with nerve injuries. but man try it out cause that is huge if it was

 

[BodyMonster34]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

bro best cure for nerves is fapping. will calm you down fast

 

[toddthelineman]

@willipede I have a 6mm impingement in my cervical spine. I suffered hugely from that. I’ve used cerebrolysin extensively and it’s one of my favorite things, but I can’t say definitively if it helps with the nerve pain because I had already gotten it under control (was supposed to be permanent). If you can get cerebrolysin, the real amps, get the 10millis, and get as many as you can afford because it’s AMAZING and the company that produces it tries to shut down sites that are selling it on the grey market. As they should because 15 minutes on Reddit will tell you that people who shouldn’t be left to care for a goldfish are getting this stuff and doing crazy things.

 

[toddthelineman]

@willipede I have a 6mm impingement in my cervical spine. I suffered hugely from that. I’ve used cerebrolysin extensively and it’s one of my favorite things, but I can’t say definitively if it helps with the nerve pain because I had already gotten it under control (was supposed to be permanent). If you can get cerebrolysin, the real amps, get the 10millis, and get as many as you can afford because it’s AMAZING and the company that produces it tries to shut down sites that are selling it on the grey market. As they should because 15 minutes on Reddit will tell you that people who shouldn’t be left to care for a goldfish are getting this stuff and doing crazy things.

One thing for sure, with nerves, you need TIME. You need to have your body in an optimal state for healing for a long time.
I was desperate and hopeless, and badly mistreated by my employer’s insurance. I became carnivore, and it was a night and day difference within just a couple days. If I ever ate even trail mix, I would start getting muscle spasms in my traps, once tide set in the numb hands came back. If it got worse it burned, then I couldn’t sleep. Miserable.

I’m not sure if you would want to try being carnivore, or if you need to go to that extreme, but you could put a gun yo my head and I would tell you it worked man. I changed a lot in my life, I did everything I could, it was a maximum effort for survival that lasted years, but being carnivore FOR ME was the major factor.

 

[2Thick]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

@willipede you should try them and log them. this way you can share your experiences

 

[toddthelineman]

@willipede you should try them and log them. this way you can share your experiences

Cerebrolysin is freaking awesome. You’re smarter the very next day. Pin 10ml at night, vivid dreams, wake up usually quite refreshed and positive but some people get brain fog. Possibly not enough choline, so I read, if that happens. But then, you could write a short story, you maybe think of something that really bothered you before and you’re like, ha! That’s not a problem, I’ll just do this. You stop using verbal ticks. Like, um, you know, know what I mean?

Maybe this stuff helps me more. I’ve had a couple really bad concussions indluding falling 35’ from a utility pole and my head hit first. That one got me good. I remember thinking, five years after that happened, man it’s been a rough five years! And then I put it together. I was having depression, anger, decreased overall function, from that.

But being in chronic pain is SUUUUUPER bad for your mental state, I lived through that too. Highly recommend cerebrolysin if you have the spare cash and can get it. I don’t do it all the time. Like once a year, and I keep some ready in case I hit my head or anything like that, the sooner you take it the better.

Cortexin is easier to get and it’s quite similar.

 

[ceo]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

bros these sound promising. they like drugs though you take orally? not peptides right? @willipede

 

[Mobster]

Never heard of it

 

[willipede]

One thing for sure, with nerves, you need TIME. You need to have your body in an optimal state for healing for a long time.
I was desperate and hopeless, and badly mistreated by my employer’s insurance. I became carnivore, and it was a night and day difference within just a couple days. If I ever ate even trail mix, I would start getting muscle spasms in my traps, once tide set in the numb hands came back. If it got worse it burned, then I couldn’t sleep. Miserable.

I’m not sure if you would want to try being carnivore, or if you need to go to that extreme, but you could put a gun yo my head and I would tell you it worked man. I changed a lot in my life, I did everything I could, it was a maximum effort for survival that lasted years, but being carnivore FOR ME was the major factor.

Thanks for your advice, similar scenario I'm also going through insurance.

I'll be having my 4th surgery for the year in about 4 weeks from now. Should be the last one.

Diet has a massive impact on my well-being and really effects chronic pain that I deal with.

I haven't gone carnivore but I have done a bit of elimination and removed foods that are inflammatory for me as much as possible.

I'm just trying to cover all my bases as I've been in pain for such a long time and it does get quite hard to deal with at times. As you would know it comes with its challenges, poor sleep, fatigue, brain fog

Current protocol is

bpc, tb500, kpv, ghk-cu daily
250 test pw

Orals
Bpc, PEA, curcumin, bovine colostrum to name a few

Started doing daily yoga to help with my bodies inability to move well and have any reasonable mobility

Physio 2 time pw

Remedial massage i do monthly as a budget issue.

Also got myself an inversion table off marketplace cheap. 10 mins per day

 

[willipede]

I’ve used cerebrolysin with a few guys that had nerve issues from injuries and they all noticed better recovery and mental sharpness over time. Cerebroprotein hydrolysate is similar but in practice seemed milder and less consistent compared to cerebrolysin.
If you’re considering it I’d lean cerebrolysin since it’s the one I’ve seen give the most real noticeable results, but not sure if you can get the real deal brother @willipede

Will just have to see what I can source here. I'm thankful that these products do exist

i'm not sure from what i've read that they are that successful with nerve injuries. but man try it out cause that is huge if it was

100% willing to try something like these after doing some research into them.

Cerebrolysin is freaking awesome. You’re smarter the very next day. Pin 10ml at night, vivid dreams, wake up usually quite refreshed and positive but some people get brain fog. Possibly not enough choline, so I read, if that happens. But then, you could write a short story, you maybe think of something that really bothered you before and you’re like, ha! That’s not a problem, I’ll just do this. You stop using verbal ticks. Like, um, you know, know what I mean?

Maybe this stuff helps me more. I’ve had a couple really bad concussions indluding falling 35’ from a utility pole and my head hit first. That one got me good. I remember thinking, five years after that happened, man it’s been a rough five years! And then I put it together. I was having depression, anger, decreased overall function, from that.

But being in chronic pain is SUUUUUPER bad for your mental state, I lived through that too. Highly recommend cerebrolysin if you have the spare cash and can get it. I don’t do it all the time. Like once a year, and I keep some ready in case I hit my head or anything like that, the sooner you take it the better.

Cortexin is easier to get and it’s quite similar.

I'll have a look at cortexin, im in aus so harder to source things. Where would I find cortexin? Any of the vendors here or direct

If thats closer to cerebrolysin I would prefer that than Cerebroprotein hydrolysate

bros these sound promising. they like drugs though you take orally? not peptides right? @willipede

They are a peptide that cross the blood brain barrier to repair neuroplasticity

 

[toddthelineman]

Will just have to see what I can source here. I'm thankful that these products do exist



100% willing to try something like these after doing some research into them.



I'll have a look at cortexin, im in aus so harder to source things. Where would I find cortexin? Any of the vendors here or direct

If thats closer to cerebrolysin I would prefer that than Cerebroprotein hydrolysate



They are a peptide that cross the blood brain barrier to repair neuroplasticity

I’m in the US. Some ugl and international pharma sources advertise them. Hope you get lucky. Usually comes from Russia the cerebrolysin. I used to use cosmic nootropic

 

[toddthelineman]

Thanks for your advice, similar scenario I'm also going through insurance.

I'll be having my 4th surgery for the year in about 4 weeks from now. Should be the last one.

Diet has a massive impact on my well-being and really effects chronic pain that I deal with.

I haven't gone carnivore but I have done a bit of elimination and removed foods that are inflammatory for me as much as possible.

I'm just trying to cover all my bases as I've been in pain for such a long time and it does get quite hard to deal with at times. As you would know it comes with its challenges, poor sleep, fatigue, brain fog

Current protocol is

bpc, tb500, kpv, ghk-cu daily
250 test pw

Orals
Bpc, PEA, curcumin, bovine colostrum to name a few

Started doing daily yoga to help with my bodies inability to move well and have any reasonable mobility

Physio 2 time pw

Remedial massage i do monthly as a budget issue.

Also got myself an inversion table off marketplace cheap. 10 mins per day

Did they ever put you in the neck stretcher thing? I found it helpful.

Also a rice sock was my best friend for a long time. And whenever I had to do work that pulled on my neck, I started icing it and it was often very helpful.

I never go anywhere without biofreeze. There’s a pump bottle in every vehicle I own.

High dose cbd can reliably stop the numbness and burning. I buy bulk cbd isolate by the quarter ounce. You can’t overdo it. This I found by accident and it was the first time I could feel my left hand in sooooo long. I was basically crying from the relief.

I do believe I have permanent nerve damage on the left. Manifesting as pain anywhere from my hand (thumb and first two fingers), to my top forearm near the elbow, or lower bicep. One of those three is always kinda fucked. I can never get it right, but 8 years ago I believed I was basically crippled and my career was over, sports, everything. Very bleak as I had just gotten out of jail, narrowly missing prison, but had lost almost everything AND wound up raising my two kids alone. All of that happened at the same time .

You’re doing a lot. It’s going to get better. Head up, chin down, shoulders back and down. They waited until giving up on surgeries to tell me that. Helped a lot actually.

 

[ROIDDERS]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

nerve issues are the worst. a lot of times it will take you adjusting your training

 

[Ulter]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

never heard of these. seems like you guys in australia figure out new things way before we do in the states. you should log it and give an honest review

 

[Noah Wixx]

never heard of these. seems like you guys in australia figure out new things way before we do in the states. you should log it and give an honest review

Thats how i feel as well lol

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Will just have to see what I can source here. I'm thankful that these products do exist

it is trial and error in general, and you cant tell the quality either, I would for sure stick to basics like bpc157 tb500 to be safe

 

[willipede]

it is trial and error in general, and you cant tell the quality either, I would for sure stick to basics like bpc157 tb500 to be safe

I've got those covered, been on them extensively although they don't help with nerve issues so much but they can reduce reduce overall Inflammation that can impact the nerves.

Getting surgeries done to fix what I can. Although for me it's not worth the risk touching the cervical spine and the neurosurgeon agrees.

So I'm looking into any alternatives I can to improve my quality of life. Bpc, tb500 are great but unfortunately they aren't miracles that can fix everything

 

[LevButlerov]

I've got those covered, been on them extensively although they don't help with nerve issues so much but they can reduce reduce overall Inflammation that can impact the nerves.

Getting surgeries done to fix what I can. Although for me it's not worth the risk touching the cervical spine and the neurosurgeon agrees.

So I'm looking into any alternatives I can to improve my quality of life. Bpc, tb500 are great but unfortunately they aren't miracles that can fix everything

I think in this situation, really HGH is the best way to go for quality of life IMO @willipede

 

[willipede]

I think in this situation, really HGH is the best way to go for quality of life IMO @willipede

I am on a pretty low dose of GH, bit with higher gh comes water retention which can aggrivate nerve issues

 

[LevButlerov]

I am on a pretty low dose of GH, bit with higher gh comes water retention which can aggrivate nerve issues

how much are you down to now with hgh?

 

[willipede]

how much are you down to now with hgh?

Doing 3iu before bed

 

[LevButlerov]

Doing 3iu before bed

That's high, try 2 IUs if you have sides.

 

[willipede]

That's high, try 2 IUs if you have sides.

Was previously higher at 5iu tapered back down to 3iu without issue.

I will get some sides at 6+

 

[LevButlerov]

Was previously higher at 5iu tapered back down to 3iu without issue.

I will get some sides at 6+

If 3 is ok stay but careful.

 

[toddthelineman]

it is trial and error in general, and you cant tell the quality either, I would for sure stick to basics like bpc157 tb500 to be safe

@Npcclassicphysique champ are you referring to cerebrolysin? It’s usually purchased in 10ml amps from the Austrian manufacturer. It’s actually medicine with bdnf growth factors and nerve growth factors. I don’t think @willipede is going too far off the rails here. He may very well find it helpful.

 

[2Thick]

Cerebrolysin is freaking awesome. You’re smarter the very next day. Pin 10ml at night, vivid dreams, wake up usually quite refreshed and positive but some people get brain fog. Possibly not enough choline, so I read, if that happens. But then, you could write a short story, you maybe think of something that really bothered you before and you’re like, ha! That’s not a problem, I’ll just do this. You stop using verbal ticks. Like, um, you know, know what I mean?

Maybe this stuff helps me more. I’ve had a couple really bad concussions indluding falling 35’ from a utility pole and my head hit first. That one got me good. I remember thinking, five years after that happened, man it’s been a rough five years! And then I put it together. I was having depression, anger, decreased overall function, from that.

But being in chronic pain is SUUUUUPER bad for your mental state, I lived through that too. Highly recommend cerebrolysin if you have the spare cash and can get it. I don’t do it all the time. Like once a year, and I keep some ready in case I hit my head or anything like that, the sooner you take it the better.

Cortexin is easier to get and it’s quite similar.

nice good info man. that is why these forums are so valuable to share info. just be careful with those concussions, they might put you in concussion protocol and bench you for a few weeks as a precaution lol

 

[toddthelineman]

nice good info man. that is why these forums are so valuable to share info. just be careful with those concussions, they might put you in concussion protocol and bench you for a few weeks as a precaution lol

Thankfully I haven’t hit my head or been hit in the head for several years now. But I still do my own stunts so it could happen

 

[ceo]

Will just have to see what I can source here. I'm thankful that these products do exist



100% willing to try something like these after doing some research into them.



I'll have a look at cortexin, im in aus so harder to source things. Where would I find cortexin? Any of the vendors here or direct

If thats closer to cerebrolysin I would prefer that than Cerebroprotein hydrolysate



They are a peptide that cross the blood brain barrier to repair neuroplasticity

bros that is a good info. try it and tell us

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

@willipede I have a 6mm impingement in my cervical spine. I suffered hugely from that. I’ve used cerebrolysin extensively and it’s one of my favorite things, but I can’t say definitively if it helps with the nerve pain because I had already gotten it under control (was supposed to be permanent). If you can get cerebrolysin, the real amps, get the 10millis, and get as many as you can afford because it’s AMAZING and the company that produces it tries to shut down sites that are selling it on the grey market. As they should because 15 minutes on Reddit will tell you that people who shouldn’t be left to care for a goldfish are getting this stuff and doing crazy things.

@toddthelineman bro yoga can be helpful....must give it a try.........

 

[toddthelineman]

@toddthelineman bro yoga can be helpful....must give it a try.........

I do it regularly. Have for many years

 

[stevesmi]

I do it regularly. Have for many years

yoga literally saved my life post herniated discs.

 

[toddthelineman]

yoga literally saved my life post herniated discs.

Man, it was a real grind for me. It felt like it was hurting me more until I really started feeling how to lean into it, and breathe into it, and not be super tense in my shoulders.

I’m always telling myself I need to get it fully back into my life like at least EOD. I do too much stuff

 

[LevButlerov]

Man, it was a real grind for me. It felt like it was hurting me more until I really started feeling how to lean into it, and breathe into it, and not be super tense in my shoulders.

I’m always telling myself I need to get it fully back into my life like at least EOD. I do too much stuff

Foam rolling and yoga, once you get into it, those feelings slowly die down. I had to press into my left shoulder a few times it was horrible but really helped. @toddthelineman

 

[stevesmi]

Man, it was a real grind for me. It felt like it was hurting me more until I really started feeling how to lean into it, and breathe into it, and not be super tense in my shoulders.

I’m always telling myself I need to get it fully back into my life like at least EOD. I do too much stuff

yeah man i tell people to do yoga and not many listen. people truly don't want to get better which is baffling. a real shame they are missing out

 

[toddthelineman]

yeah man i tell people to do yoga and not many listen. people truly don't want to get better which is baffling. a real shame they are missing out

It takes time, no instant gratification, and it’s waaaaaay harder than you would think. Someone who’s only fitness endeavor is yoga could be really really athletic from doing it. My last gf. Never missed yoga a day. I got her out on waterskis, she could do anything. I even had her barefooting. 110 pounds 35 years old. No experience. Very impressive

 

[stevesmi]

It takes time, no instant gratification, and it’s waaaaaay harder than you would think. Someone who’s only fitness endeavor is yoga could be really really athletic from doing it. My last gf. Never missed yoga a day. I got her out on waterskis, she could do anything. I even had her barefooting. 110 pounds 35 years old. No experience. Very impressive

100% agree. its a lifelong thing. my flexibility is still not where i want it. i'm still improving even though i've been doing yoga for 25 years and really about 8 years religiously

 

[toddthelineman]

100% agree. its a lifelong thing. my flexibility is still not where i want it. i'm still improving even though i've been doing yoga for 25 years and really about 8 years religiously

I better get my mat out now or I won’t do it hahaha

 

[stevesmi]

I better get my mat out now or I won’t do it hahaha

i will admit going to classes and seeing all the incredibly gorgeous women in tight yoga pants is a nice motivating factor lol.

 

[toddthelineman]

i will admit going to classes and seeing all the incredibly gorgeous women in tight yoga pants is a nice motivating factor lol.

Not me wearing sunglasses hahahaha

 

[2Thick]

Thankfully I haven’t hit my head or been hit in the head for several years now. But I still do my own stunts so it could happen

yeah we don't want to hear you got CTE next.

 

[25homes]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

Never tried

 

[ballin2504]

Question. For anyone that's tried either of these and any experiences you've had id love to know.

I'm interested in trying one of them, I suffer from nerve issues, long term use of medications use due to injury and some other problems which i think could be aided with the use of these peptides

I've seen it's quite efficacious, low risk of adverse effects so I'm willing to look into it

@willipede sorry brother no help from me. Hope you get some answers

 

[willipede]

Update:

I've ordered the cerebroprotein hydrolysate from the vendor that was previously selling branded cerebrolysin.

They are packaged the same, as well as exact same mg dosage and ampoules.

Also read that people are buying it have actually been receiving branded cerebrolysin but they are not allowed to advertise due to the lawsuit and cease and desist.

So fingers crossed it comes through customs

 

[LevButlerov]

Update:

I've ordered the cerebroprotein hydrolysate from the vendor that was previously selling branded cerebrolysin.

They are packaged the same, as well as exact same mg dosage and ampoules.

Also read that people are buying it have actually been receiving branded cerebrolysin but they are not allowed to advertise due to the lawsuit and cease and desist.

So fingers crossed it comes through customs

updated on this in your log as well
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...de-metformin-xr-cycle-log.104530/post-1812415