Approved Log My Recomp cycle Journal

[Gabs]

Hi Evo fam!

Im new here and thought id log my cycle and see what your thoughts are.

Stats
32 years old
172 5"9
87kg
16% BF
Current cycle

Previously on trt dose of 175mg split eod.

Weeks 1-2
Test e 250mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg every 3/4 days

Weeks 2-8
Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Bold ace 150mg split daily
Mast p 200mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod

Weeks 8-12

Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Mast p 400mg split daily
Anavar 20mg daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod


Training

Monday
Chest, triceps and abs
15 mins on stepper
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Tuesday
Back, biceps
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Wednesday
Rest day

Thursday
Shoulders (rear delt focused)
Abs
Upper chest
Depending on energy levels 30-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Friday
quads, hamstrings and calves
Depending on energy levels 20-25 sets of 10-15 to failure or 2 RIR.

Saturday
Back and shoulders
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Macros
2300 calories
230g
200g carbs
64 protein



Goals - Aim is to get to 10-12% body fat and put on 7kg of muscle sitting at around 89kg at 10%.
I trained consistently daily (sometimes 2 times a day for 7 years straight and achieved a physique 82kg at 8-10% body fat with longest previous cycle being 6 weeks (I was a kid who couldn't afford a proper cycle lol)

Hopefully this goal is achievable considering I still train extremely hard and I am now enhanced more than I have ever been.

I would appreciate and be open to any advise on changes I should make to my cycle.

Photos to follow.

Thanks gents!

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi Evo fam!

Im new here and thought id log my cycle and see what your thoughts are.

Stats
32 years old
172 5"9
87kg
16% BF
Current cycle

Previously on trt dose of 175mg split eod.

Weeks 1-2
Test e 250mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg every 3/4 days

Weeks 2-8
Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Bold ace 150mg split daily
Mast p 200mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod

Weeks 8-12

Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Mast p 400mg split daily
Anavar 20mg daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod


Training

Monday
Chest, triceps and abs
15 mins on stepper
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Tuesday
Back, biceps
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Wednesday
Rest day

Thursday
Shoulders (rear delt focused)
Abs
Upper chest
Depending on energy levels 30-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Friday
quads, hamstrings and calves
Depending on energy levels 20-25 sets of 10-15 to failure or 2 RIR.

Saturday
Back and shoulders
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Macros
2300 calories
230g
200g carbs
64 protein



Goals - Aim is to get to 10-12% body fat and put on 7kg of muscle sitting at around 89kg at 10%.
I trained consistently daily (sometimes 2 times a day for 7 years straight and achieved a physique 82kg at 8-10% body fat with longest previous cycle being 6 weeks (I was a kid who couldn't afford a proper cycle lol)

Hopefully this goal is achievable considering I still train extremely hard and I am now enhanced more than I have ever been.

I would appreciate and be open to any advise on changes I should make to my cycle.

Photos to follow.

Thanks gents!

welcome fully to the EVO family @Gabs we spoke in private, so please share your pics face blurred so we can get your base and start the log.

 

[Gabs]

Hey brother,

Here's my week 1 photo.

Ill post bloods soon.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi Evo fam!

Im new here and thought id log my cycle and see what your thoughts are.

Stats
32 years old
172 5"9
87kg
16% BF
Current cycle

Previously on trt dose of 175mg split eod.

Weeks 1-2
Test e 250mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg every 3/4 days

Weeks 2-8
Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Bold ace 150mg split daily
Mast p 200mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod

Weeks 8-12

Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Mast p 400mg split daily
Anavar 20mg daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod


Training

Monday
Chest, triceps and abs
15 mins on stepper
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Tuesday
Back, biceps
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Wednesday
Rest day

Thursday
Shoulders (rear delt focused)
Abs
Upper chest
Depending on energy levels 30-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Friday
quads, hamstrings and calves
Depending on energy levels 20-25 sets of 10-15 to failure or 2 RIR.

Saturday
Back and shoulders
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Macros
2300 calories
230g
200g carbs
64 protein



Goals - Aim is to get to 10-12% body fat and put on 7kg of muscle sitting at around 89kg at 10%.
I trained consistently daily (sometimes 2 times a day for 7 years straight and achieved a physique 82kg at 8-10% body fat with longest previous cycle being 6 weeks (I was a kid who couldn't afford a proper cycle lol)

Hopefully this goal is achievable considering I still train extremely hard and I am now enhanced more than I have ever been.

I would appreciate and be open to any advise on changes I should make to my cycle.

Photos to follow.

Thanks gents!

Hey brother,

Here's my week 1 photo.

Ill post bloods soon.

You look good in the pics, lean with big quads and solid shape overall. @Gabs you have what it takes to recomp, EVO family big support!

Your goal is realistic, but you need at least 300g protein and 80g fat to make the muscle gain happen while cutting down. The 2300 calories are too low for that stack.
You'll need to train more higher reps and higher cardio AM fasted to get this goal going.

The cycle itself, you'll do just fine with testosterone equipoise anavar whole cycle (orals cut short), without masteron or npp imo.

 

[Freki]

Hi Evo fam!

Im new here and thought id log my cycle and see what your thoughts are.

Stats
32 years old
172 5"9
87kg
16% BF
Current cycle

Previously on trt dose of 175mg split eod.

Weeks 1-2
Test e 250mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg every 3/4 days

Weeks 2-8
Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Bold ace 150mg split daily
Mast p 200mg split daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod

Weeks 8-12

Test e 350mg split daily
Npp 150mg split daily
Mast p 400mg split daily
Anavar 20mg daily
3iu hgh
Anastrozole 0.5mg eod


Training

Monday
Chest, triceps and abs
15 mins on stepper
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Tuesday
Back, biceps
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Wednesday
Rest day

Thursday
Shoulders (rear delt focused)
Abs
Upper chest
Depending on energy levels 30-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Friday
quads, hamstrings and calves
Depending on energy levels 20-25 sets of 10-15 to failure or 2 RIR.

Saturday
Back and shoulders
Depending on energy levels 25-35 sets of 10-15 to failure.

Macros
2300 calories
230g
200g carbs
64 protein



Goals - Aim is to get to 10-12% body fat and put on 7kg of muscle sitting at around 89kg at 10%.
I trained consistently daily (sometimes 2 times a day for 7 years straight and achieved a physique 82kg at 8-10% body fat with longest previous cycle being 6 weeks (I was a kid who couldn't afford a proper cycle lol)

Hopefully this goal is achievable considering I still train extremely hard and I am now enhanced more than I have ever been.

I would appreciate and be open to any advise on changes I should make to my cycle.

Photos to follow.

Thanks gents!

Welcome @Gabs

Great start thanks for all the detail

Cycle is a bit all over the place.

But first things first:

Calorie deficit = losing weight
Calorie surplus = gaining weight

Dropping Body Fat and gaining muscle together is inefficient.

This is a long game and if your not patient you will just spin your tyres.

So choose a cut or choose to bulk and then we can have a look at a good cycle and compounds.

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

I would just keep test at 350mg/week all cycle, why is it lower the first two weeks?
Same with the Mast P - just keep it at that higher dose

 

[Gabs]

You look good in the pics, lean with big quads and solid shape overall. @Gabs you have what it takes to recomp, EVO family big support!

Your goal is realistic, but you need at least 300g protein and 80g fat to make the muscle gain happen while cutting down. The 2300 calories are too low for that stack.
You'll need to train more higher reps and higher cardio AM fasted to get this goal going.

The cycle itself, you'll do just fine with testosterone equipoise anavar whole cycle (orals cut short), without masteron or npp imo.

Thanks bro, appreciate it. Have a long way to go!

My bad i meant 164g protein not 64g haha.
I was trying to do a big cut in the beginning for the visual motivation but I agree its not maintainable whole cycle. I guess ill need to up the amount of cardio lol

Regarding cycle, reason for the npp is for joint support, have a few injuries that will hold me back and it has been giving me relief so far.
I was also trying to save anavar for the end to go easy on the liver. Is the mast useless in your opinion at this stage? Im currently a few days into the mast p and held off on the eq at the moment. I wanted to take it easy with this cycle and see how my body responds. Ive heard eq can be a bit of an issue with haematocrit.

Appreciate the feedback lev!

 

[Gabs]

Welcome @Gabs

Great start thanks for all the detail

Cycle is a bit all over the place.

But first things first:

Calorie deficit = losing weight
Calorie surplus = gaining weight

Dropping Body Fat and gaining muscle together is inefficient.

This is a long game and if your not patient you will just spin your tyres.

So choose a cut or choose to bulk and then we can have a look at a good cycle and compounds.

Thanks brother.

For this cycle my goal is a recomp. Not really 100% focused on cutting or bulking at this stage. Just want to get myself back to how I was with a little bit more muscle on top.

 

[Gabs]

I would just keep test at 350mg/week all cycle, why is it lower the first two weeks?
Same with the Mast P - just keep it at that higher dose

In the past ive always found easing into it reduces sides and strain on the body. Plus gives myself time to see how I respond.

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro, appreciate it. Have a long way to go!

My bad i meant 164g protein not 64g haha.
I was trying to do a big cut in the beginning for the visual motivation but I agree its not maintainable whole cycle. I guess ill need to up the amount of cardio lol

Regarding cycle, reason for the npp is for joint support, have a few injuries that will hold me back and it has been giving me relief so far.
I was also trying to save anavar for the end to go easy on the liver. Is the mast useless in your opinion at this stage? Im currently a few days into the mast p and held off on the eq at the moment. I wanted to take it easy with this cycle and see how my body responds. Ive heard eq can be a bit of an issue with haematocrit.

Appreciate the feedback lev!

Good you clarified the 164g protein, that’s a solid intake for your cut, but get that up to at least 220grams.
keep cardio moderate, 30-40 min ed. @Gabs

Mast isn’t useless but mild at this stage, it’ll help a bit with hardness and mood. EQ can raise hematocrit fast so you’re fine holding off for now, but npp for joints is a far reach, You're better off going with 100mgs of deca imo.

 

[Gabs]

Good you clarified the 164g protein, that’s a solid intake for your cut, but get that up to at least 220grams.
keep cardio moderate, 30-40 min ed. @Gabs

Mast isn’t useless but mild at this stage, it’ll help a bit with hardness and mood. EQ can raise hematocrit fast so you’re fine holding off for now, but npp for joints is a far reach, You're better off going with 100mgs of deca imo.

Thanks bro, definitely going to try and get the protein up, appetite isnt the highest at the moment as im running trizepatide 2.5mg/week (forgot to add this in)
I'm definitely feeling some relief from the npp already but how long it'll last im not sure.
Do you think a low dose of 150mg EQ can be beneficial without raising hematocrit?

These were my bloods off 250mg test and 150mg npp per week. Doesnt take much to get my levels up, im a hyper responder. All my other markers are in a good range just slightly elevated AST from a previous infection clearing.
Still waiting for e2 but it wouldve definitely been through the roof as you can see in the photo I was holding a lot of water.. Anastrozole and mast has already brought it down a lot. Curious to see what my levels would be with the 350 mast added and the increase of test to 350.

 

[Freki]

'm definitely feeling some relief from the npp already but how long it'll last im not sure.
Do you think a low dose of 150mg EQ can be beneficial without raising hematocrit?

Good to see your getting relief Gabs.
Low dose EQ wont raise hematocrit, just need to keep well hydrated. But what are you adding it for?
If its for E2 control it takes 10 weeks to saturate, so e2 lvls are going on a roller-coaster ride while you try to find the right lvls of everything

 

[Gabs]

Good to see your getting relief Gabs.
Low dose EQ wont raise hematocrit, just need to keep well hydrated. But what are you adding it for?
If its for E2 control it takes 10 weeks to saturate, so e2 lvls are going on a roller-coaster ride while you try to find the right lvls of everything

Thanks brother, without it training would be a challenge with my joints.
Ive got bold ace which should saturate quickly. I was planning to run it to help with lean muscle gain while in the deficit whilst also trying to control e2 but Anastrozole is definitely doing its job.
Whats your experience with bold ace?

 

[Freki]

Whats your experience with bold ace?

Never tried it only EQ, it'll be interesting to see how you go on it.
My biggest gripe with Boldenone is having to wait 2 weeks to get e2 LCMS results back because normal E2 tests dont work. So a lot of the changes your making are on the fly.

What mg is the Bold Ace ? I wonder if its spicy

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks bro, definitely going to try and get the protein up, appetite isnt the highest at the moment as im running trizepatide 2.5mg/week (forgot to add this in)
I'm definitely feeling some relief from the npp already but how long it'll last im not sure.
Do you think a low dose of 150mg EQ can be beneficial without raising hematocrit?

These were my bloods off 250mg test and 150mg npp per week. Doesnt take much to get my levels up, im a hyper responder. All my other markers are in a good range just slightly elevated AST from a previous infection clearing.
Still waiting for e2 but it wouldve definitely been through the roof as you can see in the photo I was holding a lot of water.. Anastrozole and mast has already brought it down a lot. Curious to see what my levels would be with the 350 mast added and the increase of test to 350.

Yes, 150mg EQ can help joint comfort and mild anabolic support without spiking hematocrit much, especially since you respond strongly to androgens. @Gabs even test out 100mgs imo

Keep mast and AI where they are until you see your e2 results, we should really check from actual bloods.

 

[Gabs]

Never tried it only EQ, it'll be interesting to see how you go on it.
My biggest gripe with Boldenone is having to wait 2 weeks to get e2 LCMS results back because normal E2 tests dont work. So a lot of the changes your making are on the fly.

What mg is the Bold Ace ? I wonder if its spicy

Yeah I hate having to wait with any long ester other than test which is why I never went with eq. But 2 weeks for full saturation is great.
Its 100mg/ml. I think its expected to have a lot of pip but ill keep you posted. @Gold Standard Labs is the supplier and if anyone can get it right with least amount of pip its him! The mast p 150mg i got from him is perfect and the pip is a 2/10 if any.
Will do a post about it once I try it out.

 

[Gabs]

Yes, 150mg EQ can help joint comfort and mild anabolic support without spiking hematocrit much, especially since you respond strongly to androgens. @Gabs even test out 100mgs imo

Keep mast and AI where they are until you see your e2 results, we should really check from actual bloods.

I thought bold ace would dry me up and cause a bit of joint pain, does it help with joint support as well?

Sweet ill start off on 100 and see how I respond to it. After a couple of weeks ill test e2 and see where its at but I naturally aromatise a lot even on trt doses so I think 150 shouldnt drop it too much.. hopefully lol

 

[Freki]

Yeah I hate having to wait with any long ester other than test which is why I never went with eq. But 2 weeks for full saturation is great.
Its 100mg/ml. I think its expected to have a lot of pip but ill keep you posted. @Gold Standard Labs is the supplier and if anyone can get it right with least amount of pip its him! The mast p 150mg i got from him is perfect and the pip is a 2/10 if any.
Will do a post about it once I try it out.

Yeah cheers, Im very interested in the Ace ester , it could make it a lot easier to manage for everyone

 

[LevButlerov]

I thought bold ace would dry me up and cause a bit of joint pain, does it help with joint support as well?

Sweet ill start off on 100 and see how I respond to it. After a couple of weeks ill test e2 and see where its at but I naturally aromatise a lot even on trt doses so I think 150 shouldnt drop it too much.. hopefully lol

Start with 100mgs and see how it goes

 

[Gabs]

Start with 100mgs and see how it goes

Yeah will do bro, thanks!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah will do bro, thanks!

throw up pics of your EQ please @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

throw up pics of your EQ please @Gabs

gsl

 

[LevButlerov]

gsl

Looks like GSL EQ looks clean Team @Gold Standard Labs @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

Yeah bro looks clean as, he definitely takes pride in what he does. Not just an income for him and their service is great.

Thanks @Gold Standard Labs you legend!

I'll keep you posted on it. Planning to start next week once I get over this shit flu.

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah bro looks clean as, he definitely takes pride in what he does. Not just an income for him and their service is great.

Thanks @Gold Standard Labs you legend!

I'll keep you posted on it. Planning to start next week once I get over this shit flu.

waiting for you to come back @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

 

[G-Merc 80]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

I hope you recover quickly and feeling better soon brother, you look amazing and I am sure you will bounce back quickly

 

[Freki]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

Smart move coming off, get well bro and come back stronger keep us updated

 

[Gabs]

I hope you recover quickly and feeling better soon brother, you look amazing and I am sure you will bounce back quickly

Thanks brother, appreciate it! Hopefully im at the end of this sickness!

 

[Gabs]

Smart move coming off, get well bro and come back stronger keep us updated

Thanks brother will do. Hopefully not long ill bounce back!

 

[Raptor Labs]

Smart choice as @Freki said brother
We get you back on your feet asap and you will bounce back better bro

 

[LevButlerov]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

You look good in the pic, lean and dried out after dialing in that e2. @Gabs

Holding 200mg test and 2iu GH while you recover is the right call, smart to rest until pneumonia clears so you come back stronger!

 

[Gabs]

You look good in the pic, lean and dried out after dialing in that e2. @Gabs

Holding 200mg test and 2iu GH while you recover is the right call, smart to rest until pneumonia clears so you come back stronger!

Thanks brother, hopefully not long until im back!

 

[Mobster]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

Had this. 1 x week on amoxicillin and 3 weeks for full recovery

 

[Gabs]

You look good in the pic, lean and dried out after dialing in that e2. @Gabs

Holding 200mg test and 2iu GH while you recover is the right call, smart to rest until pneumonia clears so you come back

Had this. 1 x week on amoxicillin and 3 weeks for full recovery

Got to ride it out. Hopefully ill bounce back quick

 

[stevesmi]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

@Gabs What happens in those situations is the virus gets deep into the body and your immune system can't handle it turns into a bacterial infection and goes into your chest and sinuses. In those situations you just got to go to the doctor and get on some antibiotics. Hopefully it clears up soon.

 

[2Thick]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

Getting sick is one of the crappiest things for sure. @Gabs But we all go through it, man. You've gotta understand that it's going to happen and don't feel bad about it. Make sure you get healthy. Don't be spreading it to others in the gym.

 

[Ulter]

Thanks brother, appreciate it! Hopefully im at the end of this sickness!

Gotta make sure you stick to a clean living. Stay away from dirty people who are sick all the time. A lot of times that's how you get those diseases. @Gabs

 

[ceo]

Got to ride it out. Hopefully ill bounce back quick

@Gabs Bros. You'll be back quick, but if the antibiotics not working for you, you need to go back to doctor and have them put you on something else. Sometimes people can't get benefit from antibiotic because their body used to it already.

 

[ROIDDERS]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

Pneumonia is not good at all. There's a lot of people that die from that. So don't take your health for granted. Make sure you follow up with the doctor on that. @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

Thanks for all the support boys, my focus is on getting my health back first before anything else. Definitely need to stay out of the gym unfortunately for now, its probably where i got sick.
Doctors orders were to stay out of the gym until my markers go down and thats what ill be doing. Already done antibiotics and feeling a lot better. Been off cycle since monday and just going to cruise for the next 2 weeks and once bloods are clear ill be easing back into it.
Once again thanks for the support boys!
God bless you all!

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for all the support boys, my focus is on getting my health back first before anything else. Definitely need to stay out of the gym unfortunately for now, its probably where i got sick.
Doctors orders were to stay out of the gym until my markers go down and thats what ill be doing. Already done antibiotics and feeling a lot better. Been off cycle since monday and just going to cruise for the next 2 weeks and once bloods are clear ill be easing back into it.
Once again thanks for the support boys!
God bless you all!

Good call resting now, focus on getting those markers down and let the antibiotics clear everything.
and get probiotics in there ED

 

[Gabs]

Good call resting now, focus on getting those markers down and let the antibiotics clear everything.
and get probiotics in there ED

Yeah bro vitamins and probiotics ed and 4-5L of water with electrolytes. I should get through this quick God willing

 

[RoySimpson]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

@Gabs wishing you a speedy recovery bro!

 

[waggat]

So my flu has ended up turning into pneumonia now . I've decided to stop until I recover.

I'll be keeping calories at 2200 for now mainly consisting of protein with moderate carb and low fat.

I will continue to run 200mg test, 0.25mg Anastrozole e3d and 2iu hgh to keep slightly anabolic and retain as much muscle as possible.

Estrogen was wildly out of control at the start of the log with that photo clearly showing it. Anastrozole dialed for the last week which dried me up a fair bit.
My wife edited the last photo to remove my tats but it came out pretty weird looking I think this way is more of a realistic.

Pretty annoyed im back to square one now as I was really progressing after only a short time but health is #1.

@Raptor Labs will be supplying me with TA1 to speed up recovery so God willing I'll be back bigger and better in a couple of weeks!

Hey mates, sucks getting sick but good that your resting properly to get it sorted.

Can't wait to see your progress on this cycle. Looking pretty jacked already!

 

[Gabs]

Thanks bros, appreciate it! Doc said if bloods are clear monday then ill be good to start training again and after a week or 2 of detoxing ill recommence cycle.

Pneumonia was at the end when I tested and feeling a lot better. Just need my blood markers to come down which they have significantly over the last 3 days. Ck went up to 40,000 and alt and ast were in the 800s monday .

Definitely dont train and push through when youre feeling sick boys!

 

[LevButlerov]

Yeah bro vitamins and probiotics ed and 4-5L of water with electrolytes. I should get through this quick God willing

add psyllium husk as a prebiotic too @Gabs did you check @BeMe log? he was just going thru antibiotic withdrawal
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/first-testosterone-cycle-log.104133

Thanks bros, appreciate it! Doc said if bloods are clear monday then ill be good to start training again and after a week or 2 of detoxing ill recommence cycle.

Pneumonia was at the end when I tested and feeling a lot better. Just need my blood markers to come down which they have significantly over the last 3 days. Ck went up to 40,000 and alt and ast were in the 800s monday .

Definitely dont train and push through when youre feeling sick boys!

good stay strong

 

[Freki]

Thanks bros, appreciate it! Doc said if bloods are clear monday then ill be good to start training again and after a week or 2 of detoxing ill recommence cycle.

Pneumonia was at the end when I tested and feeling a lot better. Just need my blood markers to come down which they have significantly over the last 3 days. Ck went up to 40,000 and alt and ast were in the 800s monday .

Definitely dont train and push through when youre feeling sick boys!

Holy smokes that is nuts

 

[Gabs]

Holy smokes that is nuts

Yeah bro doctor sent me to er, got pumped with iv fluids did a full check up and they sent me on my way once levels dropped.
Moral of the story, dont train like an animal when youre sick.
The mind is sometimes a lot stronger than the body.

 

[Gabs]

Bros,

Once im well and after being back into training for a week. I'll be doing the following cycle and wondering what your thoughts are

Cycle plan

Test 200-250 (my body responds well to lower test levels)
Eq ace 250-300 I was reading running this ratio will help me keep dryer and more conditioned as I struggle with water retention from test.
Anavar 40mg after week 4
Hgh 3iu
Hcg 500mcg 2 x week
Bpc and tb500 500mcg of each daily

Im not sure on fat loss as I think glps dont work well with me as I have too mant stomach issues.

I want to keep my cycles quite easy without pushing too hard.

Main goal is recomp with fat loss and conditioning as the main target.

 

[Gabs]

Big shout out to @Raptor Labs for getting this to me asap. Told him I was really sick and he packed it instantly and was at my place the next day. Absolute legend!
Hopefully this stack will speed up my recovery time!

 

[LevButlerov]

Bros,

Once im well and after being back into training for a week. I'll be doing the following cycle and wondering what your thoughts are

Cycle plan

Test 200-250 (my body responds well to lower test levels)
Eq ace 250-300 I was reading running this ratio will help me keep dryer and more conditioned as I struggle with water retention from test.
Anavar 40mg after week 4
Hgh 3iu
Hcg 500mcg 2 x week
Bpc and tb500 500mcg of each daily

Im not sure on fat loss as I think glps dont work well with me as I have too mant stomach issues.

I want to keep my cycles quite easy without pushing too hard.

Main goal is recomp with fat loss and conditioning as the main target.

I think your test should be 2:1 with eq like 300 test 100 eq @Gabs

 

[LevButlerov]

Big shout out to @Raptor Labs for getting this to me asap. Told him I was really sick and he packed it instantly and was at my place the next day. Absolute legend!
Hopefully this stack will speed up my recovery time!

Good touchdown from Team Raptor @Raptor Labs @Raptor Rep

 

[Gabs]

I think your test should be 2:1 with eq like 300 test 100 eq @Gabs

Is there much benefit running eq that low? If eq reduces e2 would i be able to run it higher or same as test and keep my e2 in check? I generally aromatise a lot.

 

[Freki]

Is there much benefit running eq that low? If eq reduces e2 would i be able to run it higher or same as test and keep my e2 in check? I generally aromatise a lot.

Your going to have to find what ratio works best for you brother.
Im a high aromatiser and 1/1 crashes e2.
Boldenone is a great compound, just a lot of trail and work to find the individual response. And expensive LCMS tests

 

[Gabs]

What ended up working best for you brother? Ive got bold ace so changing doses will be a lot easier.

 

[Freki]

What ended up working best for you brother? Ive got bold ace so changing doses will be a lot easier.

Havent properly dialed it in yet, i think i finish around 600 test/deca and 400eq and e2 was still crashed i think. They lost my final LCMS test to confirm unfortunately. yes should be easier with the ace.

 

[Gabs]

Wow, 600 test and deca would drive me e2 up like crazy. Keen to see what eq does to my e2. Let us know how your bloods go bro. Good luck with the rest of your cycle, you're already looking good!

 

[Freki]

Wow, 600 test and deca would drive me e2 up like crazy. Keen to see what eq does to my e2. Let us know how your bloods go bro. Good luck with the rest of your cycle, you're already looking good!

Cheers bro getting bloods in 2 week's

 

[LevButlerov]

Is there much benefit running eq that low? If eq reduces e2 would i be able to run it higher or same as test and keep my e2 in check? I generally aromatise a lot.

You should start low with eq and work your way up as we check e2 @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

 

[Gabs]

Boys im unsure on where to start once I recommence cycle. I dont want to end up sick and off cycle again and was thinking the cycle i was on may have be a bit too much to jump back into after my recovery.

I was thinking test, eq but I havent used eq before so unsure of the effects on bloods and if its suitable right now.
Thought ill ease back into it with something mild but not sure where to start.

Open to suggestions, let me know what you boys think.

 

[Gabs]

If anyone has had a similar situation and can shed light on where to go from here would be awesome as im in two minds right now.

 

[LevButlerov]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

can you please post these bloods in our Blood work Sub? @Gabs

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/blood-work-research-analysis.283/

 

[LevButlerov]

Boys im unsure on where to start once I recommence cycle. I dont want to end up sick and off cycle again and was thinking the cycle i was on may have be a bit too much to jump back into after my recovery.

I was thinking test, eq but I havent used eq before so unsure of the effects on bloods and if its suitable right now.
Thought ill ease back into it with something mild but not sure where to start.

Open to suggestions, let me know what you boys think.

how about you jump back on high testosterone only for now? with light anavar or winstrol? @Gabs

If anyone has had a similar situation and can shed light on where to go from here would be awesome as im in two minds right now.

 

[Dreamer]

Boys im unsure on where to start once I recommence cycle. I dont want to end up sick and off cycle again and was thinking the cycle i was on may have be a bit too much to jump back into after my recovery.

I was thinking test, eq but I havent used eq before so unsure of the effects on bloods and if its suitable right now.
Thought ill ease back into it with something mild but not sure where to start.

Open to suggestions, let me know what you boys think.

Given your WBC counts, I would hold off on the gear and just run some test until its all normalised again, your probably keen as to get into it, but your right in thinking itll likely end with more time off.
You have some inflammation in your body right now and need time to heal. Even eating in a deficit will make it challenging to recover properly

 

[stevesmi]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

@Gabs if you are getting dizzy from lack of carbs ahead of a workout that isn't good. means you are super insulin resistant in a lot of cases. you shouldn't need carbs to fuel a workout. your body already has plenty of energy to tap into

 

[Gabs]

how about you jump back on high testosterone only for now? with light anavar or winstrol? @Gabs

I think that sounds like a good plan, ive always felt great off test and anavar with no sides. What doses do you think?

 

[Gabs]

Given your WBC counts, I would hold off on the gear and just run some test until its all normalised again, your probably keen as to get into it, but your right in thinking itll likely end with more time off.
You have some inflammation in your body right now and need time to heal. Even eating in a deficit will make it challenging to recover properly

Yeah bro ive found it a challenge being in a deficit and recovering. As @LevButlerov suggested what do you think about test and anavar?

 

[Dreamer]

Yeah bro ive found it a challenge being in a deficit and recovering. As @LevButlerov

Have you taken any high dose zinc as a supplement?

 

[Gabs]

@Gabs if you are getting dizzy from lack of carbs ahead of a workout that isn't good. means you are super insulin resistant in a lot of cases. you shouldn't need carbs to fuel a workout. your body already has plenty of energy to tap into

My glucose levels were pretty good on my bloods though.. I thought it was just being in a big deficit. Im about 500-1000 cals under on some days. Didn't have much appetite but ive increased cals this week's meal preps. Could be cause im still in recovery?

 

[Dreamer]

My glucose levels were pretty good on my bloods though.. I thought it was just being in a big deficit. Im about 500-1000 cals under on some days. Didn't have much appetite but ive increased cals this week's meal preps. Could be cause im still in recovery?

I am keen to know your supps, I have learnt a few interesting things after having very very similar symptoms

 

[stevesmi]

My glucose levels were pretty good on my bloods though.. I thought it was just being in a big deficit. Im about 500-1000 cals under on some days. Didn't have much appetite but ive increased cals this week's meal preps. Could be cause im still in recovery?

i once did a 19 days fast and had zero issues with any of that. it could also be a food addiction going on. next time you feel hypo just push through it and i bet after 20 minutes that feeling will go away. or maybe you are just dehydrated

 

[Gabs]

Have you taken any high dose zinc as a supplement?

Yeah about 70mg per day.
My current supplements are

Tudca 500mg
NAC 1200mg
B complex
2000mg vit c
Probitoics
Digestive enzymes
Glycine 2000mg
Ashwaghana 1000mg
Magnesium gly 600mg
Fish oil 8g
Coq10 300mg

 

[Dreamer]

Yeah about 70mg per day.
My current supplements are

Tudca 500mg
NAC 1200mg
B complex
2000mg vit c
Probitoics
Digestive enzymes
Glycine 2000mg
Ashwaghana 1000mg
Magnesium gly 600mg
Fish oil 8g
Coq10 300mg

Brother. Do yourself a favor and get your copper and ceruloplasmin checked.
Zinc, NAC and Vitamin C can crash Copper and it causes low neutrophils, dizziness and whole range of other shit - I did this to myself awhile ago and it matches exactly what your describing.

@LevButlerov

 

[Gabs]

i once did a 19 days fast and had zero issues with any of that. it could also be a food addiction going on. next time you feel hypo just push through it and i bet after 20 minutes that feeling will go away. or maybe you are just dehydrated

Wow 19 day fast is insane. You're right it does go away and its only after an intense session. But does sometimes come back after dinner. Im drinking 4-5L a day with liquid iv in between.

 

[Gabs]

Brother. Do yourself a favor and get your copper and ceruloplasmin checked.
Zinc, NAC and Vitamin C can crash Copper and it causes low neutrophils, dizziness and whole range of other shit - I did this to myself awhile ago and it matches exactly what your describing.

@LevButlerov

Thanks brother will do. Now that I think of it, it was only coming on hard when I was smashing vit c about 3g per day with zinc..

 

[Gabs]

Brother. Do yourself a favor and get your copper and ceruloplasmin checked.
Zinc, NAC and Vitamin C can crash Copper and it causes low neutrophils, dizziness and whole range of other shit - I did this to myself awhile ago and it matches exactly what your describing.

@LevButlerov

What did you do the fix the issue?

 

[Dreamer]

Thanks brother will do. Now that I think of it, it was only coming on hard when I was smashing vit c about 3g per day with zinc..

Bro. This went on for months for me, 6mg copper daily is helping immensely my copper was low and ceruloplasim was also low, do some research on copper its fascinating

 

[Dreamer]

Bro. This went on for months for me, 6mg copper daily is helping immensely my copper was low and ceruloplasim was also low, do some research on copper its fascinating

and stop the rest nac, vit c and zinc for now

 

[Gabs]

Bro. This went on for months for me, 6mg copper daily is helping immensely my copper was low and ceruloplasim was also low, do some research on copper its fascinating

and stop the rest nac, vit c and zinc for now

Shit bro what made you think to even test for that? I thought my blood tests are pretty thorough.
I'll stop them for now and just keep tudca and milk thistle.

What else should I be testing for on my bloods, anything else missing?

 

[Dreamer]

Shit bro what made you think to even test for that? I thought my blood tests are pretty thorough.
I'll stop them for now and just keep tudca and milk thistle.

What else should I be testing for on my bloods, anything else missing?

I got sick of the symptoms haha, researched and researched and researched, stumbled across copper because my symptoms matched anemia with perfect iron and RBC counts, except my ferritin was high and thats part of what low copper does - iron gets stuck in cells so your ferritin starts rising.

I love this shit haha, and honestly your bloods are a solid panel, you wouldnt even get a dr checking copper routinely.

I like to order Cystatin C and Apo A1 and B too for kidney and heart

 

[Dreamer]

Looking back at your bloods again, low copper can raise ast and alt, also can cause sluggish e2 metabolism, I would bet a vial of primo your ceruloplasim is low

 

[Gabs]

I got sick of the symptoms haha, researched and researched and researched, stumbled across copper because my symptoms matched anemia with perfect iron and RBC counts, except my ferritin was high and thats part of what low copper does - iron gets stuck in cells so your ferritin starts rising.

I love this shit haha, and honestly your bloods are a solid panel, you wouldnt even get a dr checking copper routinely.

I like to order Cystatin C and Apo A1 and B too for kidney and heart

Haha honestly doing your own reaearch goes a long way bro. Glad it helped you.

What were your symptoms? Ive had similar symptoms for so long and cant seem to sort it. Im hoping this is it.
I'll test for it this week.

 

[Dreamer]

Haha honestly doing your own reaearch goes a long way bro. Glad it helped you.

What were your symptoms? Ive had similar symptoms for so long and cant seem to sort it. Im hoping this is it.
I'll test for it this week.

Dizzy, lightheaded, couldnt get a deep breath, tired, moody, water retention, no energy - it legit felt like anemia or estrogen effects

 

[stevesmi]

Wow 19 day fast is insane. You're right it does go away and its only after an intense session. But does sometimes come back after dinner. Im drinking 4-5L a day with liquid iv in between.

yeah i used to need carbs before my workouts too. but after i started to do regular fasting now i don't need a thing. its very liberating

 

[ceo]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

bros pushing some good training if you ask me. the workouts are solid. i like how you include the % intensity @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

Dizzy, lightheaded, couldnt get a deep breath, tired, moody, water retention, no energy - it legit felt like anemia or estrogen effects

Brother thats literally how ive been feeling.. I hope this is it

 

[Gabs]

yeah i used to need carbs before my workouts too. but after i started to do regular fasting now i don't need a thing. its very liberating

I'll give it a try bro. I was reading not to fast while in recovery from illness but its definitely something im going to do soon. I'll start with a 48hr fast first and see how I go.

 

[Gabs]

bros pushing some good training if you ask me. the workouts are solid. i like how you include the % intensity @Gabs

Thanks bro. 100% is literally nothing left in the tank at the end of the session lol. Ive always been like this, 100% or I dont feel like im ready to leave. Only reason Ive been easing in is because im still recovering.

 

[Dreamer]

Brother thats literally how ive been feeling.. I hope this is it

Please report back and let me know, truly man I am really confident its playing a part for you

 

[Gabs]

Please report back and let me know, truly man I am really confident its playing a part for you

I really hope so. Been testing for years to figure out why I have these symptoms but nothing shows.
I'll let you know how it goes thanks!

 

[LevButlerov]

I think that sounds like a good plan, ive always felt great off test and anavar with no sides. What doses do you think?

250mgs test 30mgs anavar with n2guard easiest to do and dash of cardarine 10mgs I think is perfect but we can talk 300mgs sports TRT too @Gabs

 

[Gabs]

250mgs test 30mgs anavar with n2guard easiest to do and dash of cardarine 10mgs I think is perfect but we can talk 300mgs sports TRT too @Gabs

Really like the sounds of this. What about adding in metformin and 3iu hgh?

 

[Mobster]

Update on bloods is promising for a restart of cycle soon.

Back into training this week and fully dialled in with diet.

Monday push 70%
Tuesday pull 80%
Wednesday rest
Thursday 100%
Friday 100%

Been noticing some dizziness towards the end of my session and afterwards but im in a defecit and carbs are only 180 per day mainly pre and post training but i think i need to up carbs on meal 2 before pre workout meal.

Apart from that ive dropped 2% body fat since ive been sick and maintained slightly above trt dose (165mg per week) and havent lost muscle (actually gained a bit this week).

Rebound is looking really good however I think i'll need another week before I recommence cycle.

Bloods look pretty good to me considering what they looks like last week..

It wont take much - 50g

 

[Gabs]

It wont take much - 50g

Are you referring to 50g carbs pre workout? Im having more than that pre workout.

 

[LevButlerov]

Really like the sounds of this. What about adding in metformin and 3iu hgh?

Sure thats sports TRT + @Gabs @BeMe and myself talked about it before it works

 

[Gabs]

Sure thats sports TRT + @Gabs @BeMe and myself talked about it before it works

Just ordered cardarine. I'll give it a go with the test at trt dose for now and once bloods clear ill up to 250mg and throw in 20mg anavar daily and see how i respond after 4 weeks. If all is good and bloods are still sweet maybe ill drop the anavar then throw in the boldenone acetate I have and finish with mast p at the end of cycle.

Main focus now is getting health right so I can stay on track this time

 

[Ulter]

Boys im unsure on where to start once I recommence cycle. I dont want to end up sick and off cycle again and was thinking the cycle i was on may have be a bit too much to jump back into after my recovery.

I was thinking test, eq but I havent used eq before so unsure of the effects on bloods and if its suitable right now.
Thought ill ease back into it with something mild but not sure where to start.

Open to suggestions, let me know what you boys think.

@Gabs EQ is a great steroid. the sides are low. it doesn't come with surprises like other steroids either!

 

[stevesmi]

I'll give it a try bro. I was reading not to fast while in recovery from illness but its definitely something im going to do soon. I'll start with a 48hr fast first and see how I go.

man its the opposite. fasting will speed up recovery from an injury. you heal up 50% faster while fasting. your HGH goes up, your body spends way less time using energy on digestion. 50% of your entire days energy is wasted digesting food, so when you fast that energy goes to healing.

when people are in hospital beds recovering from injuries do they forcefeed them 500g protein and tons of food? no. as long as you are getting your hydration you will heal.