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Workout today.

Was a good day. Was able to use good weight and still get good contractions on the back exercises.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

14/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x10, 80x9, 90x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 45x10, 57.5x9, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
12.5x14, 17.5x13, 22.5x12

Concentration curl (kg db)
Warmups, 15x10, 20x10

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

External rotations

30 min incline treadmill
 
Workout today.

Was a good day. Was able to use good weight and still get good contractions on the back exercises.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

14/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x10, 80x9, 90x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 45x10, 57.5x9, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
12.5x14, 17.5x13, 22.5x12

Concentration curl (kg db)
Warmups, 15x10, 20x10

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

External rotations

30 min incline treadmill
Nice weights on those pulldowns man, really strong and no worries on the fitness trackers - if you have any questions happy to help
 
Workout today.

Was a good day. Was able to use good weight and still get good contractions on the back exercises.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

14/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x10, 80x9, 90x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 45x10, 57.5x9, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
12.5x14, 17.5x13, 22.5x12

Concentration curl (kg db)
Warmups, 15x10, 20x10

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

External rotations

30 min incline treadmill
Second that
Big numbers on pulldowns
Your cardio on both ends is relentless
Don't lose that 🦬
 
Nice weights on those pulldowns man, really strong and no worries on the fitness trackers - if you have any questions happy to help

Second that
Big numbers on pulldowns
Your cardio on both ends is relentless
Don't lose that 🦬
Thanks bros! Decided to throw an extra set in at the end with a higher weight. Have been doing them after a pre exhaust with straight arm pulldowns more lately so was interesting to give it a crack fresh.
 
Blood test results.

As a reminder, current dose is as follows:

Test E - 300mg/week (changed from 375 a week ago)
EQ - 400mg/ week (changed from 360 a week ago)
Anavar - 30mg/day

A bit worried about the white cell stuff. Is that an issue?

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@waggat Standard blood work for someone who is on the cycle you're doing. The only thing I would watch out for is the white blood cell count. You might be finding a little bit of an infection or something. However, if that number stays low you really need to be scanned for possible cancer.
 
@waggat Standard blood work for someone who is on the cycle you're doing. The only thing I would watch out for is the white blood cell count. You might be finding a little bit of an infection or something. However, if that number stays low you really need to be scanned for possible cancer.
Yeah will definitely keep an eye on it.
 
It's great you're logging everything, waggat! Seeing the bloodwork and diet details really helps understand the whole picture. I'm curious to see how your body responds to the cycle. Keep us updated! 💪
 
Workout today.

Was a good day. Was able to use good weight and still get good contractions on the back exercises.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

14/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x10, 80x9, 90x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 45x10, 57.5x9, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
12.5x14, 17.5x13, 22.5x12

Concentration curl (kg db)
Warmups, 15x10, 20x10

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

External rotations

30 min incline treadmill
@waggat bros nice on the treadmill and yoga stretching. my wife likes to stretch with me. it a good way to relax
 
Food the last two days.

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Last two dinners. The first is a creamy Tuscan chicken soup. Modified it to be a bit cleaner. Replaced the normal pasta with chick pea pasta. The second is a Thai sweet chilli beef bowl.

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Another couple of bangers from @waggat's midnight munch mansion 😎😂 this bloke doesnt miss 🔥
 
So I'm just over halfway through my cycle (assuming 16 weeks) so thought I would start thinking about what I do when it finishes.

It would be good to be able to run TRT+ eg 200mg/week but due to my high aromatisation I'll probably be limited to around 100mg/week (if I don't use an AI).

Is there other compounds that are safe to use long term at low doses? Mast?

Was also thinking I could go with 2ui/day HGH.
 
Workout yesterday.

Good leg day. Got to do hack squats again. Look forward to getting the numbers up on them. Swapped from walking lunges to Bulgarians. Haven't done them for a while. Will just have to work out the form ti hit the quads.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

11/11/25 - Legs

Leg extension (kg)
warmups, 84.5x13, 98.5x12, 112.5x10

Hack squat (kg)
1xwarmup, 40x11, 60x10, 80x9

Bulgarian split squats (kg each hand)
Warmup, 10x12, 18x11, 24x11

Back extension (kg)
Warmup, 25x13, 40x12

Machine calf (kg)
Warmup, 50x20, 70x20, 90x18

30 min incline treadmill
Now this is a fucking session brother! Love the hacks right after the extentions!! The. The psycho mentality to throw the Bulgarians in there because that is whats separates a proper maniac from a mere man.🔥🔥🔥
 
So I'm just over halfway through my cycle (assuming 16 weeks) so thought I would start thinking about what I do when it finishes.

It would be good to be able to run TRT+ eg 200mg/week but due to my high aromatisation I'll probably be limited to around 100mg/week (if I don't use an AI).

Is there other compounds that are safe to use long term at low doses? Mast?

Was also thinking I could go with 2ui/day HGH.
You will be a lot leaner at the end of this cycle too brother so that will definitely lower your aromatase conversion! So you may find your trt dose could be a touch higher then expected. How much we cant say but dialling in your proper trt dose with bloods is always a great thing to know.
Yep for sure can add masteron but it is tricky to source at the moment, as you would have seen, and the confidence in quality needs to be proven before i would consider throwing the money at the current price tag of it.
Hgh 💯 would keep that in at 2iu daily 👌👌
 
So I'm just over halfway through my cycle (assuming 16 weeks) so thought I would start thinking about what I do when it finishes.

It would be good to be able to run TRT+ eg 200mg/week but due to my high aromatisation I'll probably be limited to around 100mg/week (if I don't use an AI).

Is there other compounds that are safe to use long term at low doses? Mast?

Was also thinking I could go with 2ui/day HGH.
1-2iu's of hgh is safe. i wouldn't use masteron long term. its a dht so it will hit your hair, prostate, skin and other things @waggat
 
So I'm just over halfway through my cycle (assuming 16 weeks) so thought I would start thinking about what I do when it finishes.

It would be good to be able to run TRT+ eg 200mg/week but due to my high aromatisation I'll probably be limited to around 100mg/week (if I don't use an AI).

Is there other compounds that are safe to use long term at low doses? Mast?

Was also thinking I could go with 2ui/day HGH.
You can do TRT+ or sports TRT+
150mgs test 50mgs eq 2 IUS of hgh @waggat
 
Now this is a fucking session brother! Love the hacks right after the extentions!! The. The psycho mentality to throw the Bulgarians in there because that is whats separates a proper maniac from a mere man.🔥🔥🔥
Yeah definitely want to get into hack squats. This is only the second time I've done them in ages. Feeling better than leg press so far.

And Bulgarians.... I did them a lot but not recently. Just need to get them hitting the quad as much as posible.
 
You will be a lot leaner at the end of this cycle too brother so that will definitely lower your aromatase conversion! So you may find your trt dose could be a touch higher then expected. How much we cant say but dialling in your proper trt dose with bloods is always a great thing to know.
Yep for sure can add masteron but it is tricky to source at the moment, as you would have seen, and the confidence in quality needs to be proven before i would consider throwing the money at the current price tag of it.
Hgh 💯 would keep that in at 2iu daily 👌👌
Yeah good point re leanness. Might be able to get to say 150mg/week. But yeah will be interesting to see how I go.
 
And Bulgarians.... I did them a lot but not recently. Just need to get them hitting the quad as much as posible.
Just keep the foot placement a little closer so your knee moves over your foot. The main thing is how you drive off that front foot - drive through the ball of your foot activates quads. Drive through the heel and a further foot placement activates the hams/glutes
 
Just keep the foot placement a little closer so your knee moves over your foot. The main thing is how you drive off that front foot - drive through the ball of your foot activates quads. Drive through the heel and a further foot placement activates the hams/glutes
Yeah I guess I'm so use to using them (and all leg exercises) to help with muscle balance / posture so that meant trying for max glute activation etc.
 
Thanks for the back and forth here @BeMe and @Dreamer . The fit bit I 'borrowed' off my son has been bugging out so have been looking to replace it. Good to hear about some options.
The new polar wrist strap looks really good. Polar is known for having the best quality sensors and their wristband is so good whoop is suing them LOL. Polar doesn't charge a subscription fee either which is a nice bonus. If I were shopping today I would probably get that one
 
The new polar wrist strap looks really good. Polar is known for having the best quality sensors and their wristband is so good whoop is suing them LOL. Polar doesn't charge a subscription fee either which is a nice bonus. If I were shopping today I would probably get that one
Thanks mate will check it out.
 
Food yesterday.

Was just me for dinner so decided to cook a big steak. Threw the numbers off a little.

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Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
 
Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
Looking good
Keep that pace homie 💪
 
Food yesterday.

Was just me for dinner so decided to cook a big steak. Threw the numbers off a little.

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Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
Good meal pics clean and that steak looks solid protein :D
Your leg day hits strong with the 100 kg SLDLs!

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@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP

@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
 
Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
Nice solid session man, the high rep calf work is so good
 
Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
This is definitely 100% what is helping your lower back. Good leg day.

I also like that you're pyramiding your calories and pushing your biggest meal to breakfast with dinner being the least calories when you're likely more stagnant. It's small little adjustments like this that take us next level.
 
This is definitely 100% what is helping your lower back. Good leg day.

I also like that you're pyramiding your calories and pushing your biggest meal to breakfast with dinner being the least calories when you're likely more stagnant. It's small little adjustments like this that take us next level.
I try load most carbs to breakfast (post workout meal) as well. Just tend to leave a bit is reserve for dinner with the family.
 
I try load most carbs to breakfast (post workout meal) as well. Just tend to leave a bit is reserve for dinner with the family.
Good strategy. Also, you mentioned you like hack squats so by all means incorporate those in your leg day they are a great staple!
 
Workout yesterday.

I think all the stretching and ab work has really helped my lower back. A few months ago I had no confidence doing SLDL's. Pretty much just stuck to back extensions. Now with the addition of a belt for my top sets I went up to 100kg.

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

15/11/25 - Legs

Lying leg curl (lb)
1xwarmup, 70x12, 85x11, 100x10

SLDL (kg)
Warmups, 75x13, 90x11, 100x11

Reverse lunge from step (kg each hand)
Warmup, 18x11, 28x10, 36x8

Leg press calf (lb)
Warmups, 280x12, 330x11, 380x10

Seated calf (kg)
20x20, 35x20, 45x18

25 min incline treadmill
Progression is awesome brother and love the commitment to work with other aread to help improve on the movements you want to push on. Im the same with the belt i used it on my heavy top sets to keep it stable.
As my top sets progress by belt goes on later and later only when i really need to. Just so in dont become reliant on it all the time.
But yes very handy on the top sets.
Awesome work bro 🔥
 
Food the last two days.

Yesterday was off as it was my birthday and I had some cake.

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A few recent dinners. Beef Stroganoff, some Indian and Coles white chocolate mud cake.

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Happy birthday :D @waggat EVO family love your way!
but cake portion is small :P

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @vanlife_gymbum @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @Freki @R.AP
@waggat @Yuri @rizzlekdizzle @Grumpy
 
Food the last two days.

Yesterday was off as it was my birthday and I had some cake.

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A few recent dinners. Beef Stroganoff, some Indian and Coles white chocolate mud cake.

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Hey Happy Bday bro! How old are you now? How old are you now?

Cake looks good. I'm surprised you didn't make yourself one just for fun haha. Hope you enjoyed the time off with the family!
 
Now what in the HELL is that pink slice of something with rabbit ears in icing on it!!! (just kidding, happy birthday bro!)


Happy Birthday brother, enjoy your day

Hey Happy Bday bro! How old are you now? How old are you now?

Cake looks good. I'm surprised you didn't make yourself one just for fun haha. Hope you enjoyed the time off with the family!
Thanks bros!
 
48 now mate... Getting close to 50. But I've never really felt middle aged so all good.
No way..I never woulda guessed. You're really on point for 48. I thought you were a young dad based on how busy you are and your skin lol. You have a young man's skin, which is great.

Being 48 and having the energy to work, train, log, cook for the family, and take care of the kids is pretty impressive. Most guys your age can only manage half of that.
 
Saw Coles chocolate mud cake somewhere in my notifications and came RUNNING

Fat boy/ strongman Coach R. used to smash that shit by the whole. You can't tell me it's not the best cake available.
I love it hey. Sometimes I go to family birthdays and people have these fancy cakes and they are crap. I'll always be making comments to my kids that they should have just got one of these!
 
No way..I never woulda guessed. You're really on point for 48. I thought you were a young dad based on how busy you are and your skin lol. You have a young man's skin, which is great.

Being 48 and having the energy to work, train, log, cook for the family, and take care of the kids is pretty impressive. Most guys your age can only manage half of that.
I'm half polish... I hear people say they have good skin. Kids are a bit older now so easier in some ways.
 
Food the last two days.

Yesterday was off as it was my birthday and I had some cake.

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A few recent dinners. Beef Stroganoff, some Indian and Coles white chocolate mud cake.

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this is some super good looking food right here. @waggat The only thing I'm not sure of is the cake. You are eating. Alpha food. Then you ruined it with the slice of cake which is very beta.
 
I use Oura ring man, I had a whoop but could never get good readings with my tattoos, I think Whoop had better data for lifting though
I just got an Oura ring for the sleep analytics. I use a Garmin for general fitness.

@Dreamer do you find doing weights damages the ring at all or do you take it off for your gym sessions?
 
I just got an Oura ring for the sleep analytics. I use a Garmin for general fitness.

@Dreamer do you find doing weights damages the ring at all or do you take it off for your gym sessions?
The bottom of mine is very scratched, I need to get another device for training, but I dont really mind too much its just the bottom, I found whoop way better for the fitness and workout stuff but oura way better for health
 
But hasn’t damaged the sensors on it for sleep? Just cosmetic scratches?
Nah the sensors are on the inside, works perfectly fine just some light scratches - i considered doing a michael jackson and wearing one glove but nahhhh 😂
 
Workout from yesterday.

Overall in the last two weeks or so I've noticed that my strength has stalled or regressed slightly. Not sure if that is expected given my weight-loss (see next post).

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

21/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x8, 77x8, 87x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 50x11, 60x10, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
22.5x18, 27.5x16, 32.5x17

Concentration curl (kg)
Warmups, 12.5x11, 17.5x9, 20x9

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

Y raises

25 min incline treadmill
 
Workout from yesterday.

Overall in the last two weeks or so I've noticed that my strength has stalled or regressed slightly. Not sure if that is expected given my weight-loss (see next post).

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

21/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x8, 77x8, 87x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 50x11, 60x10, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
22.5x18, 27.5x16, 32.5x17

Concentration curl (kg)
Warmups, 12.5x11, 17.5x9, 20x9

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

Y raises

25 min incline treadmill
Good pull day :D
Yes some strength dip is normal when the scale is dropping especially with the volume you run, those 97kg pulldowns and 70kg iso rows are still strong numbers while losing weight.

See below for graph of my weight which starts when I started the cycle. Basically held pretty steady for a 6 weeks then consistently falling.

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Probably need to get some progress photos up here (think it's been around a month since the last ones).
get some pics up :D please @waggat
 
Workout from yesterday.

Overall in the last two weeks or so I've noticed that my strength has stalled or regressed slightly. Not sure if that is expected given my weight-loss (see next post).

20 min incline treadmill

10 min yoga style stretching

21/11/25 - Pull day

Close grip pulldown (kg)
Warmups, 67x8, 77x8, 87x8, 97x8

HS iso row (kg each side)
Warmup, 50x11, 60x10, 70x9

Reverse grip facepull (lb)
22.5x18, 27.5x16, 32.5x17

Concentration curl (kg)
Warmups, 12.5x11, 17.5x9, 20x9

Incline curl (kg db's)
9x11, 12.5x10, 15x9

Y raises

25 min incline treadmill
If your strength is dropping and you are exerting the same form and using same energy, it typically means the % of lean mass you are dropping is too high relative to the body fat you are losing.

What is your daily 7 day average total calorie target versus 7 day average TDEE?

How much of a deficit are you in per day?

Cheers
 
Food yesterday.

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This meal is from a few days ago but was really nice and also easy to make. Thai chicken and cashew stir-fry.

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This is great!

I try load most carbs to breakfast (post workout meal) as well. Just tend to leave a bit is reserve for dinner with the family.
I love that you keep doing this and dinner is only 600 calories. Smart move. You wake up fasted and that's prime time for go time!
 
If your strength is dropping and you are exerting the same form and using same energy, it typically means the % of lean mass you are dropping is too high relative to the body fat you are losing.

What is your daily 7 day average total calorie target versus 7 day average TDEE?

How much of a deficit are you in per day?

Cheers
Hey mate, just looked at my good tracking app. It says maintenance is 3200 if I set activity level to active (60-120 moderate activity per day). I've been consistently getting 3000 to 3100 cals per day as follows: 300P, 250C, 95F.
 
Hey mate, just looked at my good tracking app. It says maintenance is 3200 if I set activity level to active (60-120 moderate activity per day). I've been consistently getting 3000 to 3100 cals per day as follows: 300P, 250C, 95F.
You might just need a few rest days bro. Just put your feet up and listen to EVO podcasts in between watching porn.
 
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