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Approved Log 61 years old - Testosterone Primobolan Trenbolone NPP HGH Cycle Log

Wynmaker

Wynmaker

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EVO Logger
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Good log @Wynmaker really pushing it hard! can you start by sharing pics of you face blurred so we can get your base and understand you better.
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Welcome to Evo brother. Nice start to the log. Keen like everyone else to see the physical base but would also love to see what the latest blood test was like as well 🩵
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Post up some pics as the boys have said man, blur out ya face so we can see what ur working with, will help us all out,

Also big cycle and list of supplements too
 
Additional information, I’ve only been on this cycle for three weeks. Was coming off a two month TRT only cruise.
 

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Kopite67 said:
Looking strong @Wynmaker . What type of training program are you currently running?
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At age 61 I worry about hurting myself when I lift heavy. So I limit the number of days that I go big. I’m more of a volume guy these days. Lots of extended partials as well.

My current split is legs, chest and back, shoulders and abs and arms. I typically take one day off every two weeks. Depending upon how my knees feel, I may skip a leg workout. Legs are already a problem as I struggled to find jeans with thighs that fit and I don’t plan on competing in the next 12 months. I think my step my hope is that my wife will do a couples competition with me, she has natural lines and strength that are off the charts.
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Wynmaker said:
Additional information, I’ve only been on this cycle for three weeks. Was coming off a two month TRT only cruise.
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welcome fully to the EVO family :D you look good :D @Wynmaker real thick and good size, lean too! I love oldschool older Vets.

to start love your supplement stack you taking it deep!
how do you like the mots c what time of day you taking it?

on the cycle, not bad, are you doing proviron with the NPP?

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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@Wynmaker you look super ripped man. I'm especially interested in hearing more about your retatrutide experience.
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Bros, this impressive right here, looking really nice on the supplement list. I like the creatine and tudca, some of my favorites. @Wynmaker
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Good gosh, that is an amazing supplement list that you're taking. @Wynmaker I bet your health though is really on point. That's some good stuff, especially the antioxidants that you take.
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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This is an impressive list of supplements. Wow you definitely have that cover. Do you feel like at your age that supplementation becomes more and more important? @Wynmaker
 
ROIDDERS said:
This is an impressive list of supplements. Wow you definitely have that cover. Do you feel like at your age that supplementation becomes more and more important? @Wynmaker
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First of all, it is incredibly expensive. Testing every anabolic and a lot of HGH that I get gets really pricey. That said the risk of cancer, liver and kidney stress throw in left ventricular heart concerns. I feel like I have no choice. My wife is considerably younger than I am and offensively attractive. I need to get my moneys worth out of that purchase :-)
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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Hey mate, welcome to Evo.

Nice start to your log here.

I'm suprised you can recover with only one day off per week. But it's sounds like you're experienced enough to know what you can handle.
Wynmaker said:
Additional information, I’ve only been on this cycle for three weeks. Was coming off a two month TRT only cruise.
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Looking really good here mate!
 
Lots of people have asked “What are your goals?” I’m curious as well but don’t see an answer unless I’ve missed it. That’s a pretty aggressive cycle, especially considering your age. I’ve grown on half that or less. No concerns with longevity? I’m not shitting on you man I just see what I see and get concerned for you.
 
LevButlerov said:
welcome fully to the EVO family :D you look good :D @Wynmaker real thick and good size, lean too! I love oldschool older Vets.

to start love your supplement stack you taking it deep!
how do you like the mots c what time of day you taking it?

on the cycle, not bad, are you doing proviron with the NPP?

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

did you download our eBooks?
https://irongorillas.com
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Mot C is a tough one. I don't have the opportunity to do fasted cardio and I believe that is the best time to take it. I've read too much information about it having a potential negative impact on hypertrophy if you take it right before working out. So I take it an SS 31 right before I go to bed. Then every night when I get up in the middle of the night, I take my HGH usually around 2 AM.

I take so many other strong antioxidants that I do not take vitamin C. I'm taking huge amounts of glutathione, astaxanthin, etc... that all are much stronger antioxidants. I do not take any probiotics currently but I have in the past.

My diet is incredibly simple. 180 to 200 g of real food protein 150 g of protein from collagen or whey. Garbage sugar in the form of candy right before my workout, same thing after. One or two servings of fruit and vegetables every day.

Now the brutal thing, with my job I consume 8 to 12 glasses of wine every day. The amount of alcohol calories that I must battle is off the charts. It keeps me from losing my visceral fat, even with high doses of HGH. I make wine for over a dozen wineries and not consuming that much alcohol. Unfortunately is not really an option for me the way I make Wine.

I've outlined my splits, but in regards to sets I do 15 working sets per each of the two body farts that I work each day.

​

 
Blshaw said:
Lots of people have asked “What are your goals?” I’m curious as well but don’t see an answer unless I’ve missed it. That’s a pretty aggressive cycle, especially considering your age. I’ve grown on half that or less. No concerns with longevity? I’m not shitting on you man I just see what I see and get concerned for you.
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This is my first cycle this heavy. I did a previous post on bad gear. I had been working with a German producer, Zillt, for five years and it turned out that their gear was severely under dosed and for at least the last year much of it was completely fake. I lost a considerable amount of size and attributed to the fact that I just turned 60 and that age might finally be catching up to me. Just to be safe I sent all of the products to Janoshik and realized that I had been using bunk gear. I took two months off all gear other than TRT and now that I have had tested products that are clean I am making a large push. FYI I have posted on the new results from Jano on my current anabolics on this site previously.

Here is a link to my bad anabolics story, it was a huge amount of bad gear, over 2400 ml vials, I included images.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rom-zillt-pharm-not-good.108395/#post-1929525

So back to the real question, what is my goal here. First to regain my lost size and there is a chance that my wife will want to do a couples competition. She is considerably younger than I am and her capacity to hold muscle and build muscle rapidly naturally is absolutely off the charts. I want to be in a position to be in the same timeline that she is in, and that takes considerable pre-planning.
 

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Wynmaker said:
This is my first cycle this heavy. I did a previous post on bad gear. I had been working with a German producer, Zillt, for five years and it turned out that their gear was severely under dosed and for at least the last year much of it was completely fake. I lost a considerable amount of size and attributed to the fact that I just turned 60 and that age might finally be catching up to me. Just to be safe I sent all of the products to Janoshik and realized that I had been using bunk gear. I took two months off all gear other than TRT and now that I have had tested products that are clean I am making a large push. FYI I have posted on the new results from Jano on my current anabolics on this site previously.

Here is a link to my bad anabolics story, it was a huge amount of bad gear, over 2400 ml vials, I included images.
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rom-zillt-pharm-not-good.108395/#post-1929525

So back to the real question, what is my goal here. First to regain my lost size and there is a chance that my wife will want to do a couples competition. She is considerably younger than I am and her capacity to hold muscle and build muscle rapidly naturally is absolutely off the charts. I want to be in a position to be in the same timeline that she is in, and that takes considerable pre-planning.
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Great update bro. Really getting a sense of where your head and priorities are 🩵
 
Wynmaker said:
Mot C is a tough one. I don't have the opportunity to do fasted cardio and I believe that is the best time to take it. I've read too much information about it having a potential negative impact on hypertrophy if you take it right before working out. So I take it an SS 31 right before I go to bed. Then every night when I get up in the middle of the night, I take my HGH usually around 2 AM.

I take so many other strong antioxidants that I do not take vitamin C. I'm taking huge amounts of glutathione, astaxanthin, etc... that all are much stronger antioxidants. I do not take any probiotics currently but I have in the past.

My diet is incredibly simple. 180 to 200 g of real food protein 150 g of protein from collagen or whey. Garbage sugar in the form of candy right before my workout, same thing after. One or two servings of fruit and vegetables every day.

Now the brutal thing, with my job I consume 8 to 12 glasses of wine every day. The amount of alcohol calories that I must battle is off the charts. It keeps me from losing my visceral fat, even with high doses of HGH. I make wine for over a dozen wineries and not consuming that much alcohol. Unfortunately is not really an option for me the way I make Wine.

I've outlined my splits, but in regards to sets I do 15 working sets per each of the two body farts that I work each day.

​

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I don't know what's involved in your work but why do you have to drink wine? To test it? Not drinking so much would obviously be the biggest positive change you could make both in terms of health and physique.

Also, is it right that you get most of your protein from powder? That's not ideal either. Would be good to get more veggies in there as well by the looks of it.
 
Wynmaker said:
First to regain my lost size and there is a chance that my wife will want to do a couples competition.
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I appreciate your level headed response without taking offense. Keep us posted and make sure to use the upmost caution should you develop concerning sides.

I have a medical condition that honestly should make it wise for me to abstain from PED use but I still do it mildly. I wanna live the life way I see it ya know?
 
waggat said:
I don't know what's involved in your work but why do you have to drink wine? To test it? Not drinking so much would obviously be the biggest positive change you could make both in terms of health and physique.

Also, is it right that you get most of your protein from powder? That's not ideal either. Would be good to get more veggies in there as well by the looks of it.
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I make wine for over a dozen wineries in the Napa Valley. Not drinking is not an option.
 
Wynmaker said:
Mot C is a tough one. I don't have the opportunity to do fasted cardio and I believe that is the best time to take it. I've read too much information about it having a potential negative impact on hypertrophy if you take it right before working out. So I take it an SS 31 right before I go to bed. Then every night when I get up in the middle of the night, I take my HGH usually around 2 AM.

I take so many other strong antioxidants that I do not take vitamin C. I'm taking huge amounts of glutathione, astaxanthin, etc... that all are much stronger antioxidants. I do not take any probiotics currently but I have in the past.

My diet is incredibly simple. 180 to 200 g of real food protein 150 g of protein from collagen or whey. Garbage sugar in the form of candy right before my workout, same thing after. One or two servings of fruit and vegetables every day.

Now the brutal thing, with my job I consume 8 to 12 glasses of wine every day. The amount of alcohol calories that I must battle is off the charts. It keeps me from losing my visceral fat, even with high doses of HGH. I make wine for over a dozen wineries and not consuming that much alcohol. Unfortunately is not really an option for me the way I make Wine.

I've outlined my splits, but in regards to sets I do 15 working sets per each of the two body farts that I work each day.

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you drink 8-12 glasses of wine? aren't you drunk all day? or how do you feel? @Wynmaker and have you tested alt/ast?
 
LevButlerov said:
you drink 8-12 glasses of wine? aren't you drunk all day? or how do you feel? @Wynmaker and have you tested alt/ast?
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I do the complete Dr Todd Lee blood panel quarterly, alt/ast are important, but your Cystatin C is the real gauge and I have been .81 to .84 for the past three years. My endocrinologist and Coach are both really pleased with that number. That said, my endocrinologist absolutely chews my butt for being on anabolic's.
 
Wynmaker said:
First of all, it is incredibly expensive. Testing every anabolic and a lot of HGH that I get gets really pricey. That said the risk of cancer, liver and kidney stress throw in left ventricular heart concerns. I feel like I have no choice. My wife is considerably younger than I am and offensively attractive. I need to get my moneys worth out of that purchase :-)
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Definitely makes a difference for sure. I agree.
 
Wynmaker said:
I do the complete Dr Todd Lee blood panel quarterly, alt/ast are important, but your Cystatin C is the real gauge and I have been .81 to .84 for the past three years. My endocrinologist and Coach are both really pleased with that number. That said, my endocrinologist absolutely chews my butt for being on anabolic's.
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your alt ast where is it at?
 
Wynmaker said:
With a low Cystatin C number both my primary and endocrinologist are not concerned about the numbers. I do wish my total HDL was higher though.
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These are not extreme numbers tbh but if you drink imo dont use tren
 
Wynmaker said:
I only run it for relatively short periods of time. On this cycle, I’m running it the first four weeks to kickstart things.
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you can do it just up the cycle support tudca /nac imo
 
Wynmaker said:
61 years old
15% body fat
220 lbs
training for 40 plus years, have been huge on just test in my 30's and 40's
Six days on: Legs, Cheats and back, Shoulders and abs, arms, repeat, days off lad where they may. I often do extra shoulder work on arm day.
If my knees are sore I will only do them one time every seven days and pick up an extra day where I circuit train.
Pin daily
Per week 700 MG Test, 525 Primo, 200 Tren Ace, 200 NPP, I have posted all the Jano test results at my age I test every batch.
Daily 6 IU HGH
One or two days a week I will take 20mg S Drol
No gyno, do my labs every six weeks
Daily Supps:
200 P5P
moved to 40 mg of nifedipine over telmisartan, normal bp is 126/70
also 10 mg amlodipine
10 units of Reta at the 24mg/ml level
Zinc 50mg
Multi Vitamin
Thiamine 500mg
Dhea 100mg
Milk Thistle 1000mg
Cocktail of: Ginger, Artichoke, Beet Root, Chanca Piedra, Dandelion, Black pepper, Celery, Yarrow, Yellow Dock Root, Choline DL
PQQ 40mg
Glutathione 200mg SubQ
NAC 1300mg
Ubiquinol 200mg
Sam-e 400mg
D3 10,000 IU, K2 200mcg
Turmeric 1000mg with black pepper
Omega 3, 8400 total four pills
Magnesium
Nattokinase 4000
Creatine 20000mg
Tudca 1200mg
SS31 30 mg daily
Mot C 30 mg daily
BPC/TB when needed

Pre workout between Nutra Bio, Kaged and Dethroner
If I am feeling old 10mg of Adderall
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@Wynmaker welcome aboard Evo. We are glad to have you looks like a really good start to the log.
 
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