Approved Log Testosterone Masteron Mass, Cruise and Cut Cycle Log

[Koba]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

 

[Freki]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

Welcome to EVO @Thoranosaurus_flex
Glad you made the jump

What a resume brother!!!
Some amazing guns

Show us your current physique mate when you get a chance.
Will be following along

@LevButlerov can you shift thread to the proper section , thanks

 

[Koba]

Legend! & absolutely will, updated pics, bloods & anything else to come. I love this community, it feels like home it's everything to do with my life journey

 

[Koba]

Today's workout 12/2/2026
Arms trained in superset fashion

Tricep pushdown ×4
Machine Preacher curls ×4

Machine Tricep extension ×3
Seated dumbell concentration curls ×3

Dumbell overhead Tricep extension ×3
Dumbell hammer curls ×3

Dumbell reverse wrist curl ×1
Dumbell wrist curl ×1

Great pump, plenty of focus & drive

Week 1 of increased calories
Test e 500mg
Mast e 300mg
*May be adding additional ped's such, Hgh as the program develops if finances or perhaps sponsorship allows me to do so
I'll be working on progressive resistance training, while bypassing my injuries.
This is my first push after the last 4 years in & out of hospitals & on bed rest after treatment for a chronic health condition, while being on trt 175mg test for that time period also.
It's going to be tough but I'm determined I won't be doing any front or rear double Bicep anytime soon, as I'm unable to lift my arms up from complete rotator cuff tears to both shoulders, Which means any Incline or overhead presses are off the books for now. I Will be working with rehabilitation exercises for this.
My goals for this push are to-
●Add muscle mass
●Increase muscle roundness & add shape
●Correct musclular imbalances from multiple injuries

The plan after the end of this push phase is to hold onto as much muscle gained as possible with a trt health phase followed by a cuting phase
Progress pics week 1 of push with extra calories

 

[LevButlerov]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

Legend! & absolutely will, updated pics, bloods & anything else to come. I love this community, it feels like home it's everything to do with my life journey

Today's workout 12/2/2026
Arms trained in superset fashion

Tricep pushdown ×4
Machine Preacher curls ×4

Machine Tricep extension ×3
Seated dumbell concentration curls ×3

Dumbell overhead Tricep extension ×3
Dumbell hammer curls ×3

Dumbell reverse wrist curl ×1
Dumbell wrist curl ×1

Great pump, plenty of focus & drive

Week 1 of increased calories
Test e 500mg
Mast e 300mg
*May be adding additional ped's such, Hgh as the program develops if finances or perhaps sponsorship allows me to do so
I'll be working on progressive resistance training, while bypassing my injuries.
This is my first push after the last 4 years in & out of hospitals & on bed rest after treatment for a chronic health condition, while being on trt 175mg test for that time period also.
It's going to be tough but I'm determined I won't be doing any front or rear double Bicep anytime soon, as I'm unable to lift my arms up from complete rotator cuff tears to both shoulders, Which means any Incline or overhead presses are off the books for now. I Will be working with rehabilitation exercises for this.
My goals for this push are to-
●Add muscle mass
●Increase muscle roundness & add shape
●Correct musclular imbalances from multiple injuries

The plan after the end of this push phase is to hold onto as much muscle gained as possible with a trt health phase followed by a cuting phase
Progress pics week 1 of push with extra calories

welcome to the EVO family you look amazing @Thoranosaurus_flex huge frame lean and good muscle mass, nice shoulder size!

want to see your week to week please as you have been in the hospital concerning how you do more long term on TRT here

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

supplements
Are you taking high doses Vitamin C?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evolutionary-bodybuilding-radio/id1798623410
https://open.spotify.com/show/53q1RFTgG4h6TQHsJ4xY6Z

@BeMe @HarleyGuy @s.gentz
@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @Dreamer @R.AP
@waggat @Coolguy @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67 @codezz @Yuri

 

[codezz]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

Fark yes u massive unit, welcome to evo brother @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Trenhead3cc]

Looking Phenomenal at 50 bro

And also in your old competitive days

 

[waggat]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

Welcome to Evo mate!

Geez your physique from back in the day is impressive! Huge, ripped and very well proportioned!

Have you found that body part splits work best for you?

The back workout looks good!

Today's workout 12/2/2026
Arms trained in superset fashion

Tricep pushdown ×4
Machine Preacher curls ×4

Machine Tricep extension ×3
Seated dumbell concentration curls ×3

Dumbell overhead Tricep extension ×3
Dumbell hammer curls ×3

Dumbell reverse wrist curl ×1
Dumbell wrist curl ×1

Great pump, plenty of focus & drive

Week 1 of increased calories
Test e 500mg
Mast e 300mg
*May be adding additional ped's such, Hgh as the program develops if finances or perhaps sponsorship allows me to do so
I'll be working on progressive resistance training, while bypassing my injuries.
This is my first push after the last 4 years in & out of hospitals & on bed rest after treatment for a chronic health condition, while being on trt 175mg test for that time period also.
It's going to be tough but I'm determined I won't be doing any front or rear double Bicep anytime soon, as I'm unable to lift my arms up from complete rotator cuff tears to both shoulders, Which means any Incline or overhead presses are off the books for now. I Will be working with rehabilitation exercises for this.
My goals for this push are to-
●Add muscle mass
●Increase muscle roundness & add shape
●Correct musclular imbalances from multiple injuries

The plan after the end of this push phase is to hold onto as much muscle gained as possible with a trt health phase followed by a cuting phase
Progress pics week 1 of push with extra calories

Still looking really good considering what you've been through mate! The nice structure is still there. I think you'll regain size really easily given your former physique.

 

[Dreamer]

Today's workout 12/2/2026
Arms trained in superset fashion

Tricep pushdown ×4
Machine Preacher curls ×4

Machine Tricep extension ×3
Seated dumbell concentration curls ×3

Dumbell overhead Tricep extension ×3
Dumbell hammer curls ×3

Dumbell reverse wrist curl ×1
Dumbell wrist curl ×1

Great pump, plenty of focus & drive

Week 1 of increased calories
Test e 500mg
Mast e 300mg
*May be adding additional ped's such, Hgh as the program develops if finances or perhaps sponsorship allows me to do so
I'll be working on progressive resistance training, while bypassing my injuries.
This is my first push after the last 4 years in & out of hospitals & on bed rest after treatment for a chronic health condition, while being on trt 175mg test for that time period also.
It's going to be tough but I'm determined I won't be doing any front or rear double Bicep anytime soon, as I'm unable to lift my arms up from complete rotator cuff tears to both shoulders, Which means any Incline or overhead presses are off the books for now. I Will be working with rehabilitation exercises for this.
My goals for this push are to-
●Add muscle mass
●Increase muscle roundness & add shape
●Correct musclular imbalances from multiple injuries

The plan after the end of this push phase is to hold onto as much muscle gained as possible with a trt health phase followed by a cuting phase
Progress pics week 1 of push with extra calories

You look great brother, I think this will be a good push, you clearly know what your doing, what is your health condition if you dont mind sharing?

 

[Koba]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

 

[Koba]

Welcome to Evo mate!

Geez your physique from back in the day is impressive! Huge, ripped and very well proportioned!

Have you found that body part splits work best for you?

The back workout looks good!

Still looking really good considering what you've been through mate! The nice structure is still there. I think you'll regain size really easily given your former physique.

Thanks so much brother yes I have found that bodypart split works best for me, especially with a day off after the major bodyparts, back & legs to aid in total systematic recovery especially with the central nervous system & glycogen reload

 

[Dreamer]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

I think anyone, who takes peds could benefit from learning how to better protect the kidneys, they are kind of looked over and forgotten by many but unlike the liver they dont tolerate as much and dont restore.

I think (i have been guilty of this) elevated kidney markers are written off as benign elevations due to muscle mass, creatine use, high protein diet etc - and majority of the time that is the case. I usually order a cystatin c every few bloods to be sure.

I will be following your log for sure, as this stuff does interest me quite a bit - and I am glad your both healthy and mature enough to understand the need to tread carefully without living in fear.

Good stuff brother.

 

[Koba]

Fark yes u massive unit, welcome to evo brother @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Koba]

I think anyone, who takes peds could benefit from learning how to better protect the kidneys, they are kind of looked over and forgotten by many but unlike the liver they dont tolerate as much and dont restore.

I think (i have been guilty of this) elevated kidney markers are written off as benign elevations due to muscle mass, creatine use, high protein diet etc - and majority of the time that is the case. I usually order a cystatin c every few bloods to be sure.

I will be following your log for sure, as this stuff does interest me quite a bit - and I am glad your both healthy and mature enough to understand the need to tread carefully without living in fear.

Good stuff brother.

 

[LevButlerov]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

With FSGS this isn’t something to freestyle, kidney stress from high protein, dehydration, high hematocrit, and heavy compounds can accelerate progression fast.
are you ok with lowering protein to about 150 level? @Thoranosaurus_flex
I'd like to see how peptides help you recover here.

200 protein

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

 

[Koba]

Absolutely fsgs is no joke. I've researched everything that I could over the last 4 years & have consulted with my Nephrologist. My Nephrologist hasn't put me on any diet or fluid restrictions at this stage. My ped use will be limited. I'm not comfortable with anything over 500 test & 300 mast for a blast. My main focus will be on trt & maintaining muscle & health once I've got some gains back. I'll be putting up bloods on here regularly & updates with any changes. Keeping blood pressure under control is crucial

 

[stevesmi]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

@Thoranosaurus_flex does this mean you will likely need dialysis in the near future? Or could it mean nothing entirely and whatever happens happens?

 

[Koba]

As the disease is progressive, it's difficult to put any numbers on years until kidney failure & dialysis needs to be implemented. But having said that my prognosis is, looking at anywhere from 5 years to unlimited time. The damage to my kidneys was due to hypertensive changes to the kidneys glomerular filters. So with hypertension in check & as of today my B.p was 114/77 which is not bad for someone with ckd

 

[waggat]

I think anyone, who takes peds could benefit from learning how to better protect the kidneys, they are kind of looked over and forgotten by many but unlike the liver they dont tolerate as much and dont restore.

I think (i have been guilty of this) elevated kidney markers are written off as benign elevations due to muscle mass, creatine use, high protein diet etc - and majority of the time that is the case. I usually order a cystatin c every few bloods to be sure.

I will be following your log for sure, as this stuff does interest me quite a bit - and I am glad your both healthy and mature enough to understand the need to tread carefully without living in fear.

Good stuff brother.

I couldn't find much of a general consensus for kidney support when I looked into it. Astragalus maybe? What else do you recommend?

 

[Dreamer]

I couldn't find much of a general consensus for kidney support when I looked into it. Astragalus maybe? What else do you recommend?

Astragalus definitely - but the absolute best thing we can do for kidneys is control a healthy blood pressure.

Omega 3 plays a big role, proper electrolyte balances aswell, alot of guys dont take in enough salt.

Nac can help.

But above all, keeping everything in line keeps the kidneys happy.

 

[Koba]

I couldn't find much of a general consensus for kidney support when I looked into it. Astragalus maybe? What else do you recommend?

There are lots of things for kidney health & to help protect the kidneys Telemesartan & Dapagliflozin are the 2 prime protectors, especially when on cycle. Retatrutide shows some promise as does Cq10, Urolithin A, Mots-C & Ss31 especially

 

[Mobster]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

Naps just posted a AMA with Frank McGrath talking about it

 

[Mobster]

whatever is attainable & looks good

That's a bit too vague for many

 

[Koba]

Today's log,

Nutrition
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Sample meal 1 was my preworkout meal which was,
Beef lasagne with kimchi & Beetroot. I felt like a change from the usual preworkout meal which normally consists of a can of Parsons rice cream & a protein drink made from 1.5 scoops Nitrotech whey Protein in water.
1 Multi vitamin
1 D3, k2
2 liver protect (milk thistle)
1 Vit e
1 Cq10
Were all taken with this meal

Water intake was 1.5 litres preworkout
Intra workout was 50g of Maltodextrin mixed into a 600ml poweraide.
Post workout was 2 scoops Nitrotech Protein with 50g Dextrose mixed with water & a can of Parsons rice cream.

Preworkout focus, energy support was 1 cap Methylene blue 10mg from Driven nutrition & a Wakey Wakey 100mg caffeine tab
This was my first time ever trying Mb & I must say that I was impressed! I am prescribed Dexamphetamine for ADD like symptoms, I didn't take any Dexies today due to a possible interaction with Mb which can cause Seratonin syndrome. I felt like the clear headed thinking & energy from Mb blue was better than Dex but time will tell.

13/2/2026
Training log
Legs
●Leg Extensions 4 × 12-8 reps, second last set was taken to near muscular failure & the final set was taken to the point of momentary muscular failure (this approach was implemented in all of the proceeding exercises)
●Unilateral leg press 3 × 12-8
●Unilateral standing leg curl 3 × 12-8
●Stiff legged Deadlift 3 × 12-8
●leg abduction machine 3 × 12-8
●Leg adduction machine 2 × 12-8
●Standing calf raise machine 3 × 12-8
●Seated Calf raise machine 3 × 12-8

Today's workout was fire smashing all previous reps out of the ball park, with some exercises going up in weight too.
I use Hevy App to record all of my workouts.

My Bodyweight today was 99kgs

 

[Koba]

Naps just posted a AMA with Frank McGrath talking about it

I'll check it out

 

[Koba]

whatever is attainable & looks good

That's a bit too vague for many

Understandably bro, but in all honesty do any of us know where we are going to end up eventually muscle size & bodyfat wise on a push & then on a cut? For me Bodybuilding is a purely visual thing & wherever we end up with that look is the best that we can hope to achieve & as long as we have given it 100% & have enjoyed the process, well that's my take on it anyway. I had never tracked a macro counted protein, carbs or fats in my entire life leading up to me competing at the ifbb Nationals & the ceiling of what I attained with my physique. It's only since I've been onboard with the @Gains Man that I have started with the tracking. I also had never taken Hgh in all of my competitive years, I say this, to say that there is merit in an very basic approach. See food & eat it was off-season & pre comp was if I'm feeling hungry most of the time which meant then that I was on a diet

 

[2Thick]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

I wonder how many people have something like this already; they don't know it. How did you get diagnosed with it? It must have been something that you luckily caught. @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Ulter]

Hi brother, thanks for tuning in. I have a kidney disease called Fsgs. It's a progressive irreversible disease involving the kidneys flitering systems. It has been stabilised now with medical treatments & medication. The aim going forward is to continue to halt the progression for as long as possible while continuing to do Bodybuilding. Hence the push followed by trt maintenance/health phase followed by a cut with continued trt from there. I'll be employing various mito function enhancers such as Urolithin A, Mots c, SS31 & Slupp332 alongside with my regular medications with hopefully some benefit. This ride I think will be of interest to anyone else experiencing kidney issues who want to do Bodybuilding & for the medical community also

Very sorry to hear that you have this kidney disease. @Thoranosaurus_flex you'll have to definitely keep a sharp eye on your blood work as you use steroids to make sure that you don't make a problem worse.

 

[ceo]

Absolutely fsgs is no joke. I've researched everything that I could over the last 4 years & have consulted with my Nephrologist. My Nephrologist hasn't put me on any diet or fluid restrictions at this stage. My ped use will be limited. I'm not comfortable with anything over 500 test & 300 mast for a blast. My main focus will be on trt & maintaining muscle & health once I've got some gains back. I'll be putting up bloods on here regularly & updates with any changes. Keeping blood pressure under control is crucial

@Thoranosaurus_flex bros dayum. i'm glad you alive and well. that sound like something serious

 

[ROIDDERS]

Thanks so much brother yes I have found that bodypart split works best for me, especially with a day off after the major bodyparts, back & legs to aid in total systematic recovery especially with the central nervous system & glycogen reload

some of these medical issues can be a blessing in disguise. it forces you to really know your body well. this will pay off long term @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Koba]

I wonder how many people have something like this already; they don't know it. How did you get diagnosed with it? It must have been something that you luckily caught. @Thoranosaurus_flex

I was suffering from really bad fatigue & had frequent urination especially at night time I would wake up 4 or 5 or more times to pee, those were the main symptoms. So after quite a few hospital visits to emergency with blood tests revealing creatine levels that indicated kidney failure with the kidney failure being treated with I.v fluid loading each time. I undertook a kidney biopsy with the diagnosis of fsgs being reached. It took many more hospital stays & treatments before the condition was finally stabilised.

 

[Koba]

some of these medical issues can be a blessing in disguise. it forces you to really know your body well. this will pay off long term @Thoranosaurus_flex

You are absolutely right brother, I would have never learned half the things that I know about the human body now had this not come about. My aim is to help as many as I can to avoid the problems that I'm facing. Knowledge & education is power & the more that we learn & share the better

 

[ROIDDERS]

You are absolutely right brother, I would have never learned half the things that I know about the human body now had this not come about. My aim is to help as many as I can to avoid the problems that I'm facing. Knowledge & education is power & the more that we learn & share the better

yep its like the wealthy parents who find out their kid has something wrong, then start foundations to cure those diseases and help others. always happens for a reason. now you can help others who have it too

 

[LevButlerov]

Today's log,

Nutrition
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Sample meal 1 was my preworkout meal which was,
Beef lasagne with kimchi & Beetroot. I felt like a change from the usual preworkout meal which normally consists of a can of Parsons rice cream & a protein drink made from 1.5 scoops Nitrotech whey Protein in water.
1 Multi vitamin
1 D3, k2
2 liver protect (milk thistle)
1 Vit e
1 Cq10
Were all taken with this meal

Water intake was 1.5 litres preworkout
Intra workout was 50g of Maltodextrin mixed into a 600ml poweraide.
Post workout was 2 scoops Nitrotech Protein with 50g Dextrose mixed with water & a can of Parsons rice cream.

Preworkout focus, energy support was 1 cap Methylene blue 10mg from Driven nutrition & a Wakey Wakey 100mg caffeine tab
This was my first time ever trying Mb & I must say that I was impressed! I am prescribed Dexamphetamine for ADD like symptoms, I didn't take any Dexies today due to a possible interaction with Mb which can cause Seratonin syndrome. I felt like the clear headed thinking & energy from Mb blue was better than Dex but time will tell.

13/2/2026
Training log
Legs
●Leg Extensions 4 × 12-8 reps, second last set was taken to near muscular failure & the final set was taken to the point of momentary muscular failure (this approach was implemented in all of the proceeding exercises)
●Unilateral leg press 3 × 12-8
●Unilateral standing leg curl 3 × 12-8
●Stiff legged Deadlift 3 × 12-8
●leg abduction machine 3 × 12-8
●Leg adduction machine 2 × 12-8
●Standing calf raise machine 3 × 12-8
●Seated Calf raise machine 3 × 12-8

Today's workout was fire smashing all previous reps out of the ball park, with some exercises going up in weight too.
I use Hevy App to record all of my workouts.

My Bodyweight today was 99kgs

you handle the protein on issues? hows your urine?

 

[Koba]

you handle the protein on issues? hows your urine?

Thanks for your continued input brother & sorry about the bot response in there. I no longer have any proteinura which was a thing but has now ceased with treatment. My Nephrologist has given me no protein or other dietary measures to put in place at this stage.
My Coach @Gains Man & I have implemented a lower protein intake as a precautionary measure. I will definitely consider 150g daily as you suggested as a further precautionary measure if anything goes south with my bloods. As soon as I'm due for my next round of bloods as recommended by my Nephrologist, I will post up the results on my log

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for your continued input brother & sorry about the bot response in there. I no longer have any proteinura which was a thing but has now ceased with treatment. My Nephrologist has given me no protein or other dietary measures to put in place at this stage.
My Coach @Gains Man & I have implemented a lower protein intake as a precautionary measure. I will definitely consider 150g daily as you suggested as a further precautionary measure if anything goes south with my bloods. As soon as I'm due for my next round of bloods as recommended by my Nephrologist, I will post up the results on my log

i would go at 150g with your kidney issue for now imo but talk to your coach

 

[Koba]

i would go at 150g with your kidney issue for now imo but talk to your coach

I will reach out to him today & thanks once again for your input brother

 

[LevButlerov]

I will reach out to him today & thanks once again for your input brother

awesome

 

[2Thick]

I was suffering from really bad fatigue & had frequent urination especially at night time I would wake up 4 or 5 or more times to pee, those were the main symptoms. So after quite a few hospital visits to emergency with blood tests revealing creatine levels that indicated kidney failure with the kidney failure being treated with I.v fluid loading each time. I undertook a kidney biopsy with the diagnosis of fsgs being reached. It took many more hospital stays & treatments before the condition was finally stabilised.

Wow that is something. What if you wouldn't have gone to the hospital? Would you have died, you think?

 

[Koba]

@LevButlerov spoken to Gains just now brother & all is agreed in following with your advice. I'll post up the changes today when I write up my log. Thanks again bro

 

[Koba]

Wow that is something. What if you wouldn't have gone to the hospital? Would you have died, you think?

That could have been a possibility bro. This sort of thing has happened to quite a few bodybuilders now unfortunately. Flex Wheeler & Frank Mc grath & others. Honestly as long as you stay on top of getting regular blood tests & blood pressure readings, keep well hydrated this sort of thing isn't going to happen

 

[2Thick]

That could have been a possibility bro. This sort of thing has happened to quite a few bodybuilders now unfortunately. Flex Wheeler & Frank Mc grath & others. Honestly as long as you stay on top of getting regular blood tests & blood pressure readings, keep well hydrated this sort of thing isn't going to happen

so you think steroids contributed to it or sped it up?

 

[Koba]

so you think steroids contributed to it or sped it up?

Steroids could have possibly been involved with it. My biopsy diagnosis was kidney damage due to hypertensive changes to the kidneys filters, which basically means damage from years of uncontrolled high blood pressure. Steroids have been known to cause high blood pressure. But my family also has a history of high blood pressure so some of this is also most likely hereditary.
There wasn't a lot of info available to us like there is now, especially before the internet came into force. The old school approach was eating everything in sight to bulk up including junk food, so that to most likely played a role in all of this. With sites like Evo there is more than enough harm minimisation techniques available to educate us now to avoid any potential future problems

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov spoken to Gains just now brother & all is agreed in following with your advice. I'll post up the changes today when I write up my log. Thanks again bro

awesome @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[RoySimpson]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

@Thoranosaurus_flex Looking incredible bro! Welcome to the forums!!

 

[Demon_throne]

● Age 50
● Height 185cm
● Current weight 98kgs
● Goal weight is going to be whatever is attainable & looks good
●Personal trainer, Physique coach
● 2nd Ifbb Australian National Championships Heavyweight class
● 2nd Ifbb N.S.W Championships Heavyweight class
● 3rd Ifbb Australasian Championships
Superheavyweight class

● Coach @gainsman

● Currently on a push cycle using
Test e 500mg pw & Mast e 300mg pw

● Support supplements,
Liver detox
Multi
Fish oil
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Wpi
Dextrose
Maltodextrin

● Training program,
1 Chest
2 Back
3 Abs & Rest day
4 Shoulders
3 Arms
4 Quads, Hamstrings, Glutes, Calves
7 Rest day
1 Repeat
3-4 sets of 8-12 reps per exercise, with the last set being taken to momentary muscular failure

● Diet on this push/bulk is a follows,
Rest day:
200 protein
300 carbs
90 fats
2810 calories

Legs and back:
200 protein
400 carbs
90 fats
3210 calories

Normal day:
200 protein
350 carbs
80 fats
3010 calories

●Training log
Day 2
Back
10/2/2026
Underhand grip Hammer strength pulldown ×4
Assisted Chinup ×4
Hammer strength iso lateral row ×4
Stabilised T-bar row ×4
Duration 32min
Notes: Good session progress made with additional reps & or weight on all exercises performed

A little about me, I've been training for 30+ years. I've been taking Testosterone most of my life & using other Ped's through various stages. I had a health scare 4 years ago & with being in & out of hospitals on various medications I've lost most of the muscle mass that I had & have gained fat. With my health now in check, I decided to get a Coach @gainsman to help me get back into shape while all the time staying healthy & to help work around & manage my numerous injuries which include, patella tendons torn on both knees, both lat muscles torn, 2 pec tears, both Biceps torn, right Tricep torn & both of sides of my shoulders complete tears to all structures involved. It's going to be a tough comeback but I'm powering away full steam ahead!
I'll be using @Helios Labs to enhance my mitochondrial, physical & mental health & to promote fatloss, muscle size & strength

I will attach current progress picks as the program progresses
Current pics attached are a few of me during my competitive days

What a unit, great post

#team @Gains Man

 

[Koba]

@Thoranosaurus_flex Looking incredible bro! Welcome to the forums!!

Thanks @RoySimpson following along with your journey & hoping that your injuries are on the mend bro

 

[Koba]

What a unit, great post

#team @Gains Man

Thanks @Demon_throne following your progress brother, looking Jacked!

 

[Demon_throne]

Thanks @Demon_throne following your progress brother, looking Jacked!

Ive got so much growth to do but thanks bro. I know gains will do right by me should have jumped on sooner, he is rather laid back tho hope he has the ability to crack the whip for prep next year

 

[Koba]

Ive got so much growth to do but thanks bro. I know gains will do right by me should have jumped on sooner, he is rather laid back tho hope he has the ability to crack the whip for prep next year

@gainsman has learnt from the best & has coached Pro's. He's going to be the best possible option for your comp prep I'm sure of it bro. He is laid back! lol
But that makes him easy to deal with. Just go with whatever he says to do & trust in the process. There is no better feeling than standing up there on that stage crushing your rivals!
Claiming victory & sitting on that throne!

 

[Koba]

Hello Fellow Iron Brethren!
I'm super excited to announce a sponsorship for Retatrutide from @Peptilia peptides
This guy was an absolute champion! super polite & friendly & so easy to deal with & sent he me out tracking straight away.
I'm incorporating Reta into my current muscle growth/push phase stack for its metabolism boosting effect & because it
helps improve insulin sensitivity, which aids in improving how the body uses nutrients, including glucose which makes for improved glycogen storage into the muscles.
It also enhances fat metabolism which is a good thing to have even on a gain cycle as this can help to keep off any unwanted fat from storing on the body.
It can also help to lower blood pressure & it lowers blood Lipids which helps to minimise cardiovascular risk which can be increased while on a cycle & will help to keep my health in check & to give better blood test results.

My nutrition today was,
150 protein
350 carbs
80 fats

Supplements I took today were,
2 Liver detox
1 Multi vit
6 1000mg Omega 3 fish oil capsules
1 CoQ10
1 K2 + D3
Wpi

I did my shoulder rehabilitation stretches for torn rotator cuffs & then kicked back & took an extra rest day off from training as I instinctively felt that it would aid in some needed additional recovery after a huge week of upping the reps & weights. I don't often do this, but sometimes if I'm feeling extra tired, I'll asess wether training that day is going to be beneficial or if an extra rest day is needed.

All in all it great day & a big thanks to @Peptilia peptides for having me onboard

 

[Peptilia]

Hello Fellow Iron Brethren!
I'm super excited to announce a sponsorship for Retatrutide from @Peptilia peptides
This guy was an absolute champion! super polite & friendly & so easy to deal with & sent he me out tracking straight away.
I'm incorporating Reta into my current muscle growth/push phase stack for its metabolism boosting effect & because it
helps improve insulin sensitivity, which aids in improving how the body uses nutrients, including glucose which makes for improved glycogen storage into the muscles.
It also enhances fat metabolism which is a good thing to have even on a gain cycle as this can help to keep off any unwanted fat from storing on the body.
It can also help to lower blood pressure & it lowers blood Lipids which helps to minimise cardiovascular risk which can be increased while on a cycle & will help to keep my health in check & to give better blood test results.

My nutrition today was,
150 protein
350 carbs
80 fats

Supplements I took today were,
2 Liver detox
1 Multi vit
6 1000mg Omega 3 fish oil capsules
1 CoQ10
1 K2 + D3
Wpi

I did my shoulder rehabilitation stretches for torn rotator cuffs & then kicked back & took an extra rest day off from training as I instinctively felt that it would aid in some needed additional recovery after a huge week of upping the reps & weights. I don't often do this, but sometimes if I'm feeling extra tired, I'll asess wether training that day is going to be beneficial or if an extra rest day is needed.

All in all it great day & a big thanks to @Peptilia peptides for having me onboard

My pleasure brother, super excited to have you on my Reta & can’t wait to follow the log journey

 

[2Thick]

Steroids could have possibly been involved with it. My biopsy diagnosis was kidney damage due to hypertensive changes to the kidneys filters, which basically means damage from years of uncontrolled high blood pressure. Steroids have been known to cause high blood pressure. But my family also has a history of high blood pressure so some of this is also most likely hereditary.
There wasn't a lot of info available to us like there is now, especially before the internet came into force. The old school approach was eating everything in sight to bulk up including junk food, so that to most likely played a role in all of this. With sites like Evo there is more than enough harm minimisation techniques available to educate us now to avoid any potential future problems

Man, that's definitely a tough situation. I guess like you said, we can't have a time machine.

 

[Koba]

A bit of reflection for me on my past mindset this morning, After looking for a few additional pics for memories from my past bodybuilding competitions, I came across info that I had competed twice in the ifbb Australasian Championships & had placed 3rd both times.
I had completely forgotten about this as my trophy's are stored at my parents house still. I don't like to look at them as I was never happy with 2nd & 3rd place I was obsessed with winning & after my double patella tendon tears ended my career I was gutted by all of this.
Winning if thats the goal should be on every competitors mind, but to never stop once to reflect upon the Journey so far, looking back, I think is a mistake because in the end if you don't win you will never feel happy with your achievements along the way & that's what makes the journey still a win, because that is what brings true happiness in life's journey.
Enjoying the process & not just the end goal.

Sample meal 1 this morning was preworkout which was,
1 can of Parsons creamed rice
Protein 14.6g
Carbs 74.8
Fats 7.8
1800kj
1.5 scoops Nitrotech wpi
Protein 45g
Carbs 5.2g
Fats 3.8
1005kj

Supplements
Liver detox
Multi
CoQ10
K2 + D3
Nad+

Medications
Dapigloflozin
Hydralazine
Dexamphetamine
Tamsulosin

I've reduced my total Androgen load a bit & as it stands now is,
Test E 65mg ed = 455mg pw (23i:u) pd
Mast E 44mg ed = 308mg pw (22i:u) pd

Training this morning was,
Chest
Incline Dumbell press 4 x 8-12
Machine flat press 3 × 8-12
Incline fly Machine 3 × 8-12
Machine chest dip 3 × 8-12
The second set of all exercises was taken to near failure & with the last set of each taken to the point of momentary muscular failure.
The workout was recorded on hevy app always with progressive reps & resistance in mind.

@Gains Man
@HeliosLabs
@Peptilia

 

[LevButlerov]

Hello Fellow Iron Brethren!
I'm super excited to announce a sponsorship for Retatrutide from @Peptilia peptides
This guy was an absolute champion! super polite & friendly & so easy to deal with & sent he me out tracking straight away.
I'm incorporating Reta into my current muscle growth/push phase stack for its metabolism boosting effect & because it
helps improve insulin sensitivity, which aids in improving how the body uses nutrients, including glucose which makes for improved glycogen storage into the muscles.
It also enhances fat metabolism which is a good thing to have even on a gain cycle as this can help to keep off any unwanted fat from storing on the body.
It can also help to lower blood pressure & it lowers blood Lipids which helps to minimise cardiovascular risk which can be increased while on a cycle & will help to keep my health in check & to give better blood test results.

My nutrition today was,
150 protein
350 carbs
80 fats

Supplements I took today were,
2 Liver detox
1 Multi vit
6 1000mg Omega 3 fish oil capsules
1 CoQ10
1 K2 + D3
Wpi

I did my shoulder rehabilitation stretches for torn rotator cuffs & then kicked back & took an extra rest day off from training as I instinctively felt that it would aid in some needed additional recovery after a huge week of upping the reps & weights. I don't often do this, but sometimes if I'm feeling extra tired, I'll asess wether training that day is going to be beneficial or if an extra rest day is needed.

All in all it great day & a big thanks to @Peptilia peptides for having me onboard

happy to hear you have a sponsor lets move forward and train hard @Thoranosaurus_flex and update your log regular!

 

[Koba]

TOUCHDOWN!!!
My package just arrived from my sponsor @HeliosLabs
I've got to say that this guy is one of the most knowledgeable & helpful people that I have ever come across. Honestly this guy's knowledge is just mind blowing

The vials came inside a neat little peptide box & even came with a chocolate!
Helios labs are sponsoring me for Ss31 & Mots-C. Both of these compounds will help to manage & help to keep my kidney disease in check & also to benefit other internal organs & to replace & repair my mitochondria, which will be of great benefit to so many of my bodies systems & internal processes. All this with the added bonus of a healthy metabolism, decreased lethargy decreased head fog & clearer thinking & better muscle gains, fat loss & increased performance!

Thankyou so much! @HeliosLabs

 

[LevButlerov]

TOUCHDOWN!!!
My package just arrived from my sponsor @HeliosLabs
I've got to say that this guy is one of the most knowledgeable & helpful people that I have ever come across. Honestly this guy's knowledge is just mind blowing

The vials came inside a neat little peptide box & even came with a chocolate!
Helios labs are sponsoring me for Ss31 & Mots-C. Both of these compounds will help to manage & help to keep my kidney disease in check & also to benefit other internal organs & to replace & repair my mitochondria, which will be of great benefit to so many of my bodies systems & internal processes. All this with the added bonus of a healthy metabolism, decreased lethargy decreased head fog & clearer thinking & better muscle gains, fat loss & increased performance!

Thankyou so much! @HeliosLabs

Maybe you don't know this but helios is suspended on EVO, and if you keep posting about them your account has to be limited, so please stop @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Koba]

Maybe you don't know this but helios is suspended on EVO, and if you keep posting about them your account has to be limited, so please stop @Thoranosaurus_flex

Sorry @LevButlerov I was told that I could post about them in the body of my log & but not in the intro. I also posted a touchdown in Helios vendor section today with a comment from @codezz

 

[codezz]

Sorry @LevButlerov I was told that I could post about them in the body of my log & but not in the intro. I also posted a touchdown in Helios vendor section today with a comment from @codezz

@LevButlerov @Allupfromhere had posted in the @HeliosLabs thread

Post in thread 'Helios Labs Vendor Introduction' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/helios-labs-vendor-introduction.108069/post-1979990

So i think with what was said, I feel that @Thoranosaurus_flex felt it was ok to post in here

 

[Koba]

Sorry @LevButlerov I was told that I could post about them in the body of my log & but not in the intro. I also posted a touchdown in Helios vendor section today with a comment from @codezz

@LevButlerov please read the comments that followed between @codezz & @Allupfromhere I think after reading this it will clear things up. I was quite shocked to read that no one cares about my touchdown, to be honest as I had asked another mod before posting all of this before hand to check that it was all ok to do so. I was doing the right thing or so I thought, no harm was intended. Please let me know what conclusion you all come to about this & I'll follow any rules & instructions surrounding it. Thanks Brother

 

[codezz]

@LevButlerov please read the comments that followed between @codezz & @Allupfromhere I think after reading this it will clear things up. I was quite shocked to read that no one cares about my touchdown, to be honest as I had asked another mod before posting all of this before hand to check that it was all ok to do so. I was doing the right thing or so I thought, no harm was intended. Please let me know what conclusion you all come to about this & I'll follow any rules & instructions surrounding it. Thanks Brother

Also brother, sorry if my comment came across as rude, wasnt ment to hurt or be hurtful, I didnt know u had asked a mod and as soon as Allupfromhere had posted i respected his comments as its thier call, not mine, im just a logger trying to look out for everyone, I still not sure of the whole reason why he was suspended, not my business, but all good,

Sorry again @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Koba]

Also brother, sorry if my comment came across as rude, wasnt ment to hurt or be hurtful, I didnt know u had asked a mod and as soon as Allupfromhere had posted i respected his comments as its thier call, not mine, im just a logger trying to look out for everyone, I still not sure of the whole reason why he was suspended, not my business, but all good,

Sorry again @Thoranosaurus_flex

I didn't think it harmful or rude brother, I was just shocked by it because I was expecting only positive feedback & yes all good thankyou brother

 

[codezz]

I didn't think it harmful or rude brother, I was just shocked by it because I was expecting only positive feedback & yes all good thankyou brother

And all good for @HeliosLabs too , if he comes back, I wish them all the best also

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov please read the comments that followed between @codezz & @Allupfromhere I think after reading this it will clear things up. I was quite shocked to read that no one cares about my touchdown, to be honest as I had asked another mod before posting all of this before hand to check that it was all ok to do so. I was doing the right thing or so I thought, no harm was intended. Please let me know what conclusion you all come to about this & I'll follow any rules & instructions surrounding it. Thanks Brother

I did read them @Thoranosaurus_flex I read ALL comments lol every day for hours. Love your log and EVO family respect your way!

I want to clarify this for you, you cannot mention helios again, until they are unsuspended, please dont do it again.

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov @Allupfromhere had posted in the @HeliosLabs thread

Post in thread 'Helios Labs Vendor Introduction' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/helios-labs-vendor-introduction.108069/post-1979990

So i think with what was said, I feel that @Thoranosaurus_flex felt it was ok to post in here

thank you for the follow up @codezz I issued him a warning for now I hope he understands.

 

[Koba]

I did read them @Thoranosaurus_flex I read ALL comments lol every day for hours. Love your log and EVO family respect your way!

I want to clarify this for you, you cannot mention helios again, until they are unsuspended, please dont do it again.

Thanks for clearing this up brother & copied load & clear

 

[LevButlerov]

Thanks for clearing this up brother & copied load & clear

thanks for understanding

 

[codezz]

@Thoranosaurus_flex

Please see this...

Post in thread 'Helios Labs Vendor Introduction' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/helios-labs-vendor-introduction.108069/post-1980796

Not to mention his name again as he is suspended on both forums

 

[Koba]

@Thoranosaurus_flex

Please see this...

Post in thread 'Helios Labs Vendor Introduction' https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/helios-labs-vendor-introduction.108069/post-1980796

Not to mention his name again as he is suspended on both forums

Ok brother understood. So I need to delete the old log & start a new one?

 

[codezz]

Ok brother understood. So I need to delete the old log & start a new one?

Id say keep running ur oils or whatever u have for now,

Also put ur name in the loggers thread, might be called vendors looking for loggers or something, fuck it ill find it for u

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/aussie-logger-marketplace.104319/

Post in there say, ur looking to log for someone, what ur goals are and the rest, maybe throw up a photo and that give the vendors an idea on what they r working with and wait till someone hits u up

Then keep this log active untill u find a new sponsor bro, but just dnt mention ole mates name as stated from Eddie,

 

[Koba]

Id say keep running ur oils or whatever u have for now,

Also put ur name in the loggers thread, might be called vendors looking for loggers or something, fuck it ill find it for u

https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/aussie-logger-marketplace.104319/

Post in there say, ur looking to log for someone, what ur goals are and the rest, maybe throw up a photo and that give the vendors an idea on what they r working with and wait till someone hits u up

Then keep this log active untill u find a new sponsor bro, but just dnt mention ole mates name as stated from Eddie,

Ok brother, sorry a bit confused, do I need to delete my old log entirely & create a new one?
Cheers for the link for vendors looking for logging

 

[codezz]

Ok brother, sorry a bit confused, do I need to delete my old log entirely & create a new one?
Cheers for the link for vendors looking for logging

Nah dnt delete it, just keep using this log untill u get picked up by a new vendor, then once u have a new vendor who is sponsoring u, then create a new log

 

[Koba]

Nah dnt delete it, just keep using this log untill u get picked up by a new vendor, then once u have a new vendor who is sponsoring u, then create a new log

Perfect thanks Brother

 

[LevButlerov]

Ok brother understood. So I need to delete the old log & start a new one?

You start a new thread with new log @Thoranosaurus_flex

 

[Koba]

You start a new thread with new log @Thoranosaurus_flex

All good, I'll start with a new log today, can I keep the old introduction template but edit it & only tag the appropriate vendor's in it?

 

[LevButlerov]

All good, I'll start with a new log today, can I keep the old introduction template but edit it & only tag the appropriate vendor's in it?

you can keep the template just use your new sponsor please @Thoranosaurus_flex sorry for the hassle but we need to enforce this.

 

[Koba]

you can keep the template just use your new sponsor please @Thoranosaurus_flex sorry for the hassle but we need to enforce this.

It's a good brother, I will do that & just to clarify before I start, I need to start an entirely new log & not just keep the old one & post a new intro on there?

 

[LevButlerov]

It's a good brother, I will do that & just to clarify before I start, I need to start an entirely new log & not just keep the old one & post a new intro on there?

entirely new thread please

 

[Koba]

entirely new thread please

Ok got it. Thanks Brother

 

[Koba]

Ok got it. Thanks Brother

@LevButlerov can you post me a link to where I start the new log from please

 

[LevButlerov]

@LevButlerov can you post me a link to where I start the new log from please

no problem

Please click the anabolic forum
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/forums/anabolic-steroids-and-peds.2/
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREAD
click that

in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle