Approved Log First Growth Log - Testosterone Equipoise Retatrutide Cycle

[Le4ned]

G'day Evo family!

Newbie on the forum, Ive been poking around little and following some advice I'll be getting a Log together here for you to follow/
any feedback, thoughts, comments and concerns are 100% welcomed. Im here trying to make the most out of this first growth push.

Quick Intro Im a full-time chef working between 60-80 hour weeks depending on business levels, being a slower season now I can
really lean into my training/nutrition/recovery etc. Ive been putting a lot more emphasis into my health and fitness and have had the guidance of a coach
for the past couple years.
Never really pushed over 250mg test with some other compounds depending on training/nutrition block. Being a high aromatiser never really gone above this until now, also always been using aromasin 12.5mg twice a week.
Also noteworthy is BP has consistently trended higher 120's/30's when running gear.
Last summer leaned down to 77kg around 8 or 9%. Proceeded into a health phase, all compounds dropped besides the TRT protocol and continued reta at 2mg.
In this 3 month health phase Mots C, Nad+ and SS31 were run and felt really good on these. Energy was up, sleep was great and general well being was all time.

Im not out to compete, I love training hard, and just enjoy the challenges that come with the sport both physical and mental. Always looking to be better than yesterday in all aspects of life.

Began this growth phase around March starting with 200mg Test, 200mg EQ and continued reta to assist with Insulin sensitivity and metabolic function.
Macros at the beginning were 160 P, 200C 55F.

New source which I've found here on EVO for oils. Sassy's - top shit
(Don't know how to tag but worth a shout)

Which brings me to the present:
-Test E 400mg
-EQ 500mg
Mon, tues, thurs, Sat.

-Reta 2mg
Mon

-AI - Aromasin 12.5mg
Mon,Thurs.

-Telemisartan 40mg every day.

STATS:
5'11"
87kg

Supps:
Upon waking hydration/gut.
-600ml water with White wolf Greens blend
-10ml apple cider vinegar
-5ml coconut MCT oil
-3g glutamine

With first meal
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-200mg Nattokinase
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-5000IU Vit D3
-400mg Magnesium glycinate

Pre bed supps
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-300mg Magnesium glycerinate (Bioglan deep sleep active magnesium formula)
-3g Glycine

Food
Being a chef and spending a couple of years tracking macros I lean more towards freestyle tracking now with a baseline meal plan that looks like this:
1
- 4 whole eggs, 2 whites, spinach on a wrap / wholemeal toast.
2
- 100g rice flour, frozen blueberries, 1 serving whey iso, maple syrup.
3
- 220g rice, 220g cooked lean beaf mince, veggies and whatever hot sauce I reach for.
4
-Plain bagel with Jam
5
- Steak or chicken, rice or potatoes, salad or veg.
Add a banana or 2, apples, basically fruit to kick up carb count.

Meals may change based around what time of day I train - COR almost always pre workout meal with the rice and mince the post meal.


NOW
A recent trip to Bali had me gain an extra couple %. Non issue.
Macros have been dropped back to original to allow some metabolic reset etc.
First training session back minor rotator cuff strain lol.
So this week the focus in on lower body and some rehab through that shoulder.
Tracked Blood pressure this week and BP is High 140's
Pets have been dropped back to 200 test e, 200 EQ starting today.

First thing first is to get this blood pressure down.

Next chance I get ill have bloods done which looks like Next Monday 8/6.
I'll upload here as soon as they come through.

Training looks like this
Sun - Chest /Tricep / shoulders 1
Mon - Legs 1
Tues - Back /Bi
Wed - Active recovery - Incline treadmill / sauna / mobility
Thurs - Chest / Triceps / shoulders 2
Fri - Legs 2
Sat - Active recovery - yoga / sauna / mobility

Progressive overload. Some lifts rest pause. Some lifts drop sets.

A new training block will arrive next week.

Ive really wanted to put focus into legs these few months as has always been a lagging part.

Been tossing up getting some low dose GH into the mix, Thoughts on this?

3 pics are recent check in
2 pics when lean

I might have missed something so do let me know what else I can log in here.

Appreciate all the support so far legends!

- Le4ned

 

[Le4ned]

The goal is still to reach 90kg Lean. Bit of a push from the previous 77, not in a huge rush.

Watch this space

 

[LevButlerov]

G'day Evo family!

Newbie on the forum, Ive been poking around little and following some advice I'll be getting a Log together here for you to follow/
any feedback, thoughts, comments and concerns are 100% welcomed. Im here trying to make the most out of this first growth push.

Quick Intro Im a full-time chef working between 60-80 hour weeks depending on business levels, being a slower season now I can
really lean into my training/nutrition/recovery etc. Ive been putting a lot more emphasis into my health and fitness and have had the guidance of a coach
for the past couple years.
Never really pushed over 250mg test with some other compounds depending on training/nutrition block. Being a high aromatiser never really gone above this until now, also always been using aromasin 12.5mg twice a week.
Also noteworthy is BP has consistently trended higher 120's/30's when running gear.
Last summer leaned down to 77kg around 8 or 9%. Proceeded into a health phase, all compounds dropped besides the TRT protocol and continued reta at 2mg.
In this 3 month health phase Mots C, Nad+ and SS31 were run and felt really good on these. Energy was up, sleep was great and general well being was all time.

Im not out to compete, I love training hard, and just enjoy the challenges that come with the sport both physical and mental. Always looking to be better than yesterday in all aspects of life.

Began this growth phase around March starting with 200mg Test, 200mg EQ and continued reta to assist with Insulin sensitivity and metabolic function.
Macros at the beginning were 160 P, 200C 55F.

New source which I've found here on EVO for oils. Sassy's - top shit
(Don't know how to tag but worth a shout)

Which brings me to the present:
-Test E 400mg
-EQ 500mg
Mon, tues, thurs, Sat.

-Reta 2mg
Mon

-AI - Aromasin 12.5mg
Mon,Thurs.

-Telemisartan 40mg every day.

STATS:
5'11"
87kg

Supps:
Upon waking hydration/gut.
-600ml water with White wolf Greens blend
-10ml apple cider vinegar
-5ml coconut MCT oil
-3g glutamine

With first meal
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-200mg Nattokinase
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-5000IU Vit D3
-400mg Magnesium glycinate

Pre bed supps
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-300mg Magnesium glycerinate (Bioglan deep sleep active magnesium formula)
-3g Glycine

Food
Being a chef and spending a couple of years tracking macros I lean more towards freestyle tracking now with a baseline meal plan that looks like this:
1
- 4 whole eggs, 2 whites, spinach on a wrap / wholemeal toast.
2
- 100g rice flour, frozen blueberries, 1 serving whey iso, maple syrup.
3
- 220g rice, 220g cooked lean beaf mince, veggies and whatever hot sauce I reach for.
4
-Plain bagel with Jam
5
- Steak or chicken, rice or potatoes, salad or veg.
Add a banana or 2, apples, basically fruit to kick up carb count.

Meals may change based around what time of day I train - COR almost always pre workout meal with the rice and mince the post meal.


NOW
A recent trip to Bali had me gain an extra couple %. Non issue.
Macros have been dropped back to original to allow some metabolic reset etc.
First training session back minor rotator cuff strain lol.
So this week the focus in on lower body and some rehab through that shoulder.
Tracked Blood pressure this week and BP is High 140's
Pets have been dropped back to 200 test e, 200 EQ starting today.

First thing first is to get this blood pressure down.

Next chance I get ill have bloods done which looks like Next Monday 8/6.
I'll upload here as soon as they come through.

Training looks like this
Sun - Chest /Tricep / shoulders 1
Mon - Legs 1
Tues - Back /Bi
Wed - Active recovery - Incline treadmill / sauna / mobility
Thurs - Chest / Triceps / shoulders 2
Fri - Legs 2
Sat - Active recovery - yoga / sauna / mobility

Progressive overload. Some lifts rest pause. Some lifts drop sets.

A new training block will arrive next week.

Ive really wanted to put focus into legs these few months as has always been a lagging part.

Been tossing up getting some low dose GH into the mix, Thoughts on this?

3 pics are recent check in
2 pics when lean

I might have missed something so do let me know what else I can log in here.

Appreciate all the support so far legends!

- Le4ned

The goal is still to reach 90kg Lean. Bit of a push from the previous 77, not in a huge rush.

Watch this space

welcome fully to the EVO family @Le4ned love the pics you look good lean and hard! nice size! EVO family support for your journey!

Food
Being a chef and spending a couple of years tracking macros I lean more towards freestyle tracking now with a baseline meal plan that looks like this:
1
- 4 whole eggs, 2 whites, spinach on a wrap / wholemeal toast.
2
- 100g rice flour, frozen blueberries, 1 serving whey iso, maple syrup.
3
- 220g rice, 220g cooked lean beaf mince, veggies and whatever hot sauce I reach for.
4
-Plain bagel with Jam
5
- Steak or chicken, rice or potatoes, salad or veg.
Add a banana or 2, apples, basically fruit to kick up carb count.

Meals may change based around what time of day I train - COR almost always pre workout meal with the rice and mince the post meal

raining looks like this
Sun - Chest /Tricep / shoulders 1
Mon - Legs 1
Tues - Back /Bi
Wed - Active recovery - Incline treadmill / sauna / mobility
Thurs - Chest / Triceps / shoulders 2
Fri - Legs 2
Sat - Active recovery - yoga / sauna / mobility

Progressive overload. Some lifts rest pause. Some lifts drop sets.

A new training block will arrive next week.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

Supps:
Upon waking hydration/gut.
-600ml water with White wolf Greens blend
-10ml apple cider vinegar
-5ml coconut MCT oil
-3g glutamine

With first meal
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-200mg Nattokinase
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-5000IU Vit D3
-400mg Magnesium glycinate

Pre bed supps
-2 servings fish oil
-2g Vit C
-250mg TUDCA
-600mg NAC
-300mg Magnesium glycerinate (Bioglan deep sleep active magnesium formula)
-3g Glycine

supplements
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

Which brings me to the present:
-Test E 400mg
-EQ 500mg
Mon, tues, thurs, Sat.

-Reta 2mg
Mon

-AI - Aromasin 12.5mg
Mon,Thurs.

-Telemisartan 40mg every day.

Good cycle overall but your eq dose is way too high, do you have latest bloods?


@HarleyGuy @Allupfromhere @Pigsy @waggat @Trenhead3cc @Kopite67
@Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @Doctakay @catdadironman @bss @rizzlekdizzle @Ohdamn

 

[Le4ned]

supplements
how much creatine do you use ed?
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

Creatine 10g, 5days per week before training. No enzymes or probiotics or added fibre.

Only the greens formula w/ cider vin, MCT and glutamine 3g.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Or use an app like myfitness pal or cronometer. Very easy.

Nutrition
Meal 1 Wrap - 6.30 am, 4 eggs, 2 whites, wrap and spinach
591 Cals - 45P, 45C, 26F

Meal 2 Rice/mince- 12pm . This is where it can start to stray.
As a chef somebody will usually take care of a family style lunch - A Pasta, or Protein / Carb Situation.
Ill always have one of my meals on hand so if macros look a little skewed from what one of the chefs has prepared ill eat my Meal Plan.
220g Rice, 220g lean beef mince, veggies.
673 Cals - 62C 53P, 22F

Meal 3 COR- Pre workout - 9am on days off or on way to gym afterwork.
506Cals - 84C, 35P, 1F

Meal 4 Bagel- No strict timing on this, when it fits the schedule
481 Cal - 67C, 38F, 6P

Meal 5 steak / potatoes - 6pm maybe 9pm depending on schedule
402 Cals - 44 C, 52P, 4F

Ill have some extra fruit throughout the day to bring Carbs up depending on days meals. As mentioned some days are a bit more freestyle but still tracked 90% of the time.


Cardio
Min 10k steps daily.
At the moment - post Bali reduced cals /trainingdue to the shoulder strain getting 3 x 30 min incline treadmill.
Pre Bali cardio was purely 10k steps daily.

Training looks like this
Sun - Chest /Tricep / shoulders 1
Mon - Legs 1
Tues - Back /Bi
Wed - Active recovery - Incline treadmill / sauna / mobility
Thurs - Chest / Triceps / shoulders 2
Fri - Legs 2
Sat - Active recovery - yoga / sauna / mobility

Training
Strained rotator cuff last week so legs only this week as follows

All sets always taken to failure with adequate recovery to jump into next set, depending on muscle / movement could be 3 minute rest eg Hack squat or 60 secs eg Calf raises

Upper 1 Sunday - chest, tri, shoulder
Incline Chest press 2 x 6-10 last set rest pause @ 100kg
Converging seated cable chest press 3 x 8-12 @38kg
Weighted dips 3x8-12 @ 25kg
Decline chest press 2 x 8-12 Last set rest pause @60kg
Machine Lat raise single arm 5x10-15 @ 20kg
Chest fly Machine 3 x 8-12 last set drop set - failure @ 54kg
Seated incline tricep ext - 4 x 10-20 @ 28kg
Overhead rope tri ext - 4 x 10-15 @ 15kg

L1 Monday
Adduction 4 x 15 @81kg
Prone curl 3 x 6-10 @47kg
Hack squat 3 x 4-8 increments of 20kg with last set 220kg
45 leg press single leg. 4 x 8-12 with last set rest pause @60kg
DB reverse lunge front leg raised. 3x6-10@20kg
Seated leg ext. 4 x10-20@74kg
Smith calf raises 6x10-20 @40kg

U2 Tuesday Back, Bi
Rear delt cable fly - 3 x 10-15 @14kg
Weighted neutral grip pull up 3 x AMRAP @15kg
Lat Pull down wide grip - 3x6-12 Last set droplet - failure @60kg
Overhand row 3x6-12 @90kg
Low cable row 3 x 8-12 24kg
DB bicep Hammer curl 3x10-15@10kg
Seated incline DB curl 3 x 10-15 @7.5kg
Machine Bicep curl single arm 3x10-15 @ 10kg
Farmers Carry 3 x 60 seconds @30kg
DB shrugs 3x10 @40kg

U3 Thurs - Chest, Tri, Shoulders
Chest Press 3 x 4-8 Last set rest pause @ 120kg
Incline chest press -Last set rest Pause @80kg
decline chest press -Last set rest Pause @60kg
Machine shoulder press neutral grip 3 x 8-12 -Last set rest Pause @ 50kg
Machine Lateral Raise 3x 8-12 @ 10kg
E Z Skullcrusher 3x8-12 @ 30kg
Seated incl. Tri xt. 3x8-12 @ 21kg
Cable tri kickback 3 x 8-12@ 5kg

L2 Friday
Prone Curl 3 x 8-12@47kg
seated Ham curl 3 x 8-12 @72kg
Booty Builder 3 x 6-15 @120kg
Hack Squat 2x 6-8 @200kg
45 single leg press 3 x 8-12 last set rest pause @ 60kg
seated leg ext single leg 3 x 6-12 @35kg
Abduction 3 x 10-20 Every set rest pause @40kg
Smith calf raise 6 x 10-20 @40kg.

Good cycle overall but your eq dose is way too high, do you have latest bloods?

You think the High dose EQ is causing the spike in Blood Pressure?
Could it be diet related due to a couple beers and some dirty street food in Bali?

My last saved bloods are from last year October I believe.

Next bloods coming this Monday, Any Tests in Particular I should have ordered?
In mind I had full blood panel, Lipids, Liver / thyroid function / kidney, e2 LCMS, Inflammation, Glucose. PCS?

 

[Kopite67]

Creatine 10g, 5days per week before training. No enzymes or probiotics or added fibre.

Only the greens formula w/ cider vin, MCT and glutamine 3g.




Nutrition
Meal 1 Wrap - 6.30 am, 4 eggs, 2 whites, wrap and spinach
591 Cals - 45P, 45C, 26F

Meal 2 Rice/mince- 12pm . This is where it can start to stray.
As a chef somebody will usually take care of a family style lunch - A Pasta, or Protein / Carb Situation.
Ill always have one of my meals on hand so if macros look a little skewed from what one of the chefs has prepared ill eat my Meal Plan.
220g Rice, 220g lean beef mince, veggies.
673 Cals - 62C 53P, 22F

Meal 3 COR- Pre workout - 9am on days off or on way to gym afterwork.
506Cals - 84C, 35P, 1F

Meal 4 Bagel- No strict timing on this, when it fits the schedule
481 Cal - 67C, 38F, 6P

Meal 5 steak / potatoes - 6pm maybe 9pm depending on schedule
402 Cals - 44 C, 52P, 4F

Ill have some extra fruit throughout the day to bring Carbs up depending on days meals. As mentioned some days are a bit more freestyle but still tracked 90% of the time.


Cardio
Min 10k steps daily.
At the moment - post Bali reduced cals /trainingdue to the shoulder strain getting 3 x 30 min incline treadmill.
Pre Bali cardio was purely 10k steps daily.




Training
Strained rotator cuff last week so legs only this week as follows

All sets always taken to failure with adequate recovery to jump into next set, depending on muscle / movement could be 3 minute rest eg Hack squat or 60 secs eg Calf raises

Upper 1 Sunday - chest, tri, shoulder
Incline Chest press 2 x 6-10 last set rest pause @ 100kg
Converging seated cable chest press 3 x 8-12 @38kg
Weighted dips 3x8-12 @ 25kg
Decline chest press 2 x 8-12 Last set rest pause @60kg
Machine Lat raise single arm 5x10-15 @ 20kg
Chest fly Machine 3 x 8-12 last set drop set - failure @ 54kg
Seated incline tricep ext - 4 x 10-20 @ 28kg
Overhead rope tri ext - 4 x 10-15 @ 15kg

L1 Monday
Adduction 4 x 15 @81kg
Prone curl 3 x 6-10 @47kg
Hack squat 3 x 4-8 increments of 20kg with last set 220kg
45 leg press single leg. 4 x 8-12 with last set rest pause @60kg
DB reverse lunge front leg raised. 3x6-10@20kg
Seated leg ext. 4 x10-20@74kg
Smith calf raises 6x10-20 @40kg

U2 Tuesday Back, Bi
Rear delt cable fly - 3 x 10-15 @14kg
Weighted neutral grip pull up 3 x AMRAP @15kg
Lat Pull down wide grip - 3x6-12 Last set droplet - failure @60kg
Overhand row 3x6-12 @90kg
Low cable row 3 x 8-12 24kg
DB bicep Hammer curl 3x10-15@10kg
Seated incline DB curl 3 x 10-15 @7.5kg
Machine Bicep curl single arm 3x10-15 @ 10kg
Farmers Carry 3 x 60 seconds @30kg
DB shrugs 3x10 @40kg

U3 Thurs - Chest, Tri, Shoulders
Chest Press 3 x 4-8 Last set rest pause @ 120kg
Incline chest press -Last set rest Pause @80kg
decline chest press -Last set rest Pause @60kg
Machine shoulder press neutral grip 3 x 8-12 -Last set rest Pause @ 50kg
Machine Lateral Raise 3x 8-12 @ 10kg
E Z Skullcrusher 3x8-12 @ 30kg
Seated incl. Tri xt. 3x8-12 @ 21kg
Cable tri kickback 3 x 8-12@ 5kg

L2 Friday
Prone Curl 3 x 8-12@47kg
seated Ham curl 3 x 8-12 @72kg
Booty Builder 3 x 6-15 @120kg
Hack Squat 2x 6-8 @200kg
45 single leg press 3 x 8-12 last set rest pause @ 60kg
seated leg ext single leg 3 x 6-12 @35kg
Abduction 3 x 10-20 Every set rest pause @40kg
Smith calf raise 6 x 10-20 @40kg.


You think the High dose EQ is causing the spike in Blood Pressure?
Could it be diet related due to a couple beers and some dirty street food in Bali?

My last saved bloods are from last year October I believe.

Next bloods coming this Monday, Any Tests in Particular I should have ordered?
In mind I had full blood panel, Lipids, Liver / thyroid function / kidney, e2 LCMS, Inflammation, Glucose. PCS?

Great update brother. Pushing some serious weights around. All of the items me tinned for a blood test are perfect. Get a good idea from those.

 

[LevButlerov]

Creatine 10g, 5days per week before training. No enzymes or probiotics or added fibre.

Only the greens formula w/ cider vin, MCT and glutamine 3g.

lets add probiotics and psyllium ed
and start moving creatine to 15

Nutrition
Meal 1 Wrap - 6.30 am, 4 eggs, 2 whites, wrap and spinach
591 Cals - 45P, 45C, 26F

Meal 2 Rice/mince- 12pm . This is where it can start to stray.
As a chef somebody will usually take care of a family style lunch - A Pasta, or Protein / Carb Situation.
Ill always have one of my meals on hand so if macros look a little skewed from what one of the chefs has prepared ill eat my Meal Plan.
220g Rice, 220g lean beef mince, veggies.
673 Cals - 62C 53P, 22F

Meal 3 COR- Pre workout - 9am on days off or on way to gym afterwork.
506Cals - 84C, 35P, 1F

Meal 4 Bagel- No strict timing on this, when it fits the schedule
481 Cal - 67C, 38F, 6P

Meal 5 steak / potatoes - 6pm maybe 9pm depending on schedule
402 Cals - 44 C, 52P, 4F

Ill have some extra fruit throughout the day to bring Carbs up depending on days meals. As mentioned some days are a bit more freestyle but still tracked 90% of the time.


Cardio
Min 10k steps daily.
At the moment - post Bali reduced cals /trainingdue to the shoulder strain getting 3 x 30 min incline treadmill.
Pre Bali cardio was purely 10k steps daily.

good food but you are away eating right?

You think the High dose EQ is causing the spike in Blood Pressure?
Could it be diet related due to a couple beers and some dirty street food in Bali?

My last saved bloods are from last year October I believe.

Next bloods coming this Monday, Any Tests in Particular I should have ordered?
In mind I had full blood panel, Lipids, Liver / thyroid function / kidney, e2 LCMS, Inflammation, Glucose. PCS?

can you please share latest bloods you had in Oct thanks @Le4ned
the actual paper and can you get my whole list done on bloods? with lcms e2
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...what-labs-to-test-on-steroids-and-trt.107781/

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Mate looking super lean and shredded
Are you worried about low E2 with that test/EQ ratio?
And yes - @Sassy's Pharmaceuticals is an OG - you won't go wrong there I have logged his products in the past.

Being a chef - it can be difficult to get time to train etc.

How old are you?

 

[Le4ned]

lets add probiotics and psyllium ed
and start moving creatine to 15

good food but you are away eating right?

can you please share latest bloods you had in Oct thanks @Le4ned
the actual paper and can you get my whole list done on bloods? with lcms e2
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...what-labs-to-test-on-steroids-and-trt.107781/

No experience using probiotics, I’ve seen the bio ceutical branded “SB Floractiv” might be suitable with my digestive symptoms I’ll pick some up along with some psyllium husk and report back in with progress on these.

Regarding the meal timings yes I’m usually out and on the move most of the day.
Catering can have its demands so I’m often eating on the road between venues or when I have 10 minutes to get it down.

I’ll upload recent bloods when back at the computer but no sheet. It’s all digital and uploaded via their website, the company is I-screen so will be a dozen or so individual screen shots.

Any recommendations for a lab that can run the bloods and have all results over 1 or 2 pages, using the tests you’ve suggested above?

 

[Le4ned]

Mate looking super lean and shredded
Are you worried about low E2 with that test/EQ ratio?
And yes - @Sassy's Pharmaceuticals is an OG - you won't go wrong there I have logged his products in the past.

Being a chef - it can be difficult to get time to train etc.

How old are you?

I wasn’t really worried about it in the past until a few members on the forum have raised a concern.
being a high aromatiser I’ve never worried too much about low e2, rather the opposite.

We’ve reduced the test eq now to 1:1 at 200mg each and reduced Aromasin to 12.5mg once per week.

Very curious to see how levels are.

Yes the hours can make it difficult to train.

I’m 34 and only have a girlfriend to keep happy - no kids just yet so finding some time to train isn’t really an issue at this point even if it’s early morning or late at night.

Mood and energy takes a hit if it’s a late lift after a 12/14 hour shift.

 

[LevButlerov]

No experience using probiotics, I’ve seen the bio ceutical branded “SB Floractiv” might be suitable with my digestive symptoms I’ll pick some up along with some psyllium husk and report back in with progress on these.

Regarding the meal timings yes I’m usually out and on the move most of the day.
Catering can have its demands so I’m often eating on the road between venues or when I have 10 minutes to get it down.

I’ll upload recent bloods when back at the computer but no sheet. It’s all digital and uploaded via their website, the company is I-screen so will be a dozen or so individual screen shots.

Any recommendations for a lab that can run the bloods and have all results over 1 or 2 pages, using the tests you’ve suggested above?

No experience using probiotics, I’ve seen the bio ceutical branded “SB Floractiv” might be suitable with my digestive symptoms I’ll pick some up along with some psyllium husk and report back in with progress on these.

as long as 30billion CFU and full mix you're good with probiotics @Le4ned
psyllium get it in

Regarding the meal timings yes I’m usually out and on the move most of the day.
Catering can have its demands so I’m often eating on the road between venues or when I have 10 minutes to get it down.

it would be good to prep meals if you can

I’ll upload recent bloods when back at the computer but no sheet. It’s all digital and uploaded via their website, the company is I-screen so will be a dozen or so individual screen shots.

screen hot it please

Any recommendations for a lab that can run the bloods and have all results over 1 or 2 pages, using the tests you’ve suggested above?

what country are you from?

 

[Le4ned]

as long as 30billion CFU and full mix you're good with probiotics @Le4ned
psyllium get it in

it would be good to prep meals if you can

screen hot it please

what country are you from?

Copy Copy.

From Aus @LevButlerov

 

[LevButlerov]

Copy Copy.

From Aus @LevButlerov

for bloods in Australia I'll tag EVO AU brothers @Le4ned

@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @bss @rizzlekdizzle @Ohdamn @Kopite67

 

[Grumpy]

No experience using probiotics, I’ve seen the bio ceutical branded “SB Floractiv” might be suitable with my digestive symptoms I’ll pick some up along with some psyllium husk and report back in with progress on these.

Regarding the meal timings yes I’m usually out and on the move most of the day.
Catering can have its demands so I’m often eating on the road between venues or when I have 10 minutes to get it down.

I’ll upload recent bloods when back at the computer but no sheet. It’s all digital and uploaded via their website, the company is I-screen so will be a dozen or so individual screen shots.

Any recommendations for a lab that can run the bloods and have all results over 1 or 2 pages, using the tests you’ve suggested above?

Bloods go with imedical they have a great turnaround time and email results

 

[Kopite67]

Bloods go with imedical they have a great turnaround time and email results

Agree 100%

 

[rizzlekdizzle]

Agree 100%

yep wide consensus that medical is gtg

 

[Le4ned]

lets add probiotics and psyllium ed
and start moving creatine to 15

good food but you are away eating right?

can you please share latest bloods you had in Oct thanks @Le4ned
the actual paper and can you get my whole list done on bloods? with lcms e2
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...what-labs-to-test-on-steroids-and-trt.107781/

Last years results here

 

[Le4ned]

Physio session tomorrow for the rotator cuff strain, expecting some dry needling / mobilisation. Will get into the gym following for some resistance band and light shoulder activation work.


Hopefully can get this feeling better come weeks end so I can get back into the upper body training.

Off topic Side note - took the Mrs to see Backrooms tonight. Absolute mindfuck

 

[LevButlerov]

Last years results here

estrogen high lets retest, can we?

 

[LevButlerov]

Physio session tomorrow for the rotator cuff strain, expecting some dry needling / mobilisation. Will get into the gym following for some resistance band and light shoulder activation work.


Hopefully can get this feeling better come weeks end so I can get back into the upper body training.

Off topic Side note - took the Mrs to see Backrooms tonight. Absolute mindfuck

good to hear some PT you get an infrared lamp?

 

[bss]

for bloods in Australia I'll tag EVO AU brothers @Le4ned

@Allupfromhere @Pigsy @HarleyGuy @Grumpy @LH5515 @Yuri @bss @rizzlekdizzle @Ohdamn @Kopite67

imedical, roidsafe or instascripts

 

[Ohdamn]

Bloods go with imedical they have a great turnaround time and email results

100 percent!