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Ace, E or Hex? What's YOUR preference?


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dylangemelli said:
if its your first time using, then definitely ace...
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I can second that. Because if the sides become too much or your body just doesn't adapt well to it, it's out out your system faster then with the longer esters.

I feel this should be the protocol for for testosterone too. Yes it causes someone new to it all the work of pinning either Ed or EOD but it makes them appreciate and realize the whole process of everything that goes along with AAS.
 
Zeus said:
I can second that. Because if the sides become too much or your body just doesn't adapt well to it, it's out out your system faster then with the longer esters.

I feel this should be the protocol for for testosterone too. Yes it causes someone new to it all the work of pinning either Ed or EOD but it makes them appreciate and realize the whole process of everything that goes along with AAS.
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That's sounds good in theory, but I'll have to disagree.

After trying tren ace a few times, the sides were unbearable at times and I almost gave up on tren altogether. During my current cycle, I've been running Tren E for 9+ weeks and the sides are so much more tolerable that it's definitely my new weapon of choice. No night sweats, insomnia, or tren cough. The E ester allows the tren to build up slower in my system which makes sides manageable rather than being broadsided by them all at once.
 
I have to say that the Ace is my favorite now, after I knocked out my last Computer on the Tren E. I never have tried the Hex, maybe next time I run Tren this Spring..............................................JP
 
I wish pharmacom would get their hex back in stock. Alpha pharma is in stock ATM, though the price tag is pretty heavy.
 
jbranken said:
That's sounds good in theory, but I'll have to disagree.

After trying tren ace a few times, the sides were unbearable at times and I almost gave up on tren altogether. During my current cycle, I've been running Tren E for 9+ weeks and the sides are so much more tolerable that it's definitely my new weapon of choice. No night sweats, insomnia, or tren cough. The E ester allows the tren to build up slower in my system which makes sides manageable rather than being broadsided by them all at once.
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this....

1st time with it was a tes/tren/mast blend....sides were bad.

I gave it one more shot and did 200mg tes E, 350mg tren E.....was a lot better to live with. could actually sleep without sweating to the point where i had to sleep on 2 towels. actually got some sleep as well.
 
Hmm my sides were never THAT bad for me. I prefer ace over hex or e. I always felt that sides will be sides either way really by my experiences. I can see how you felt the sides built up from the longer ester break down. Which would allow for tolerance build up of a degree.

When u used ace and later the e was it at the same mg a week?
 
Kind of scared to try tren but really want to. Only side that makes me nervous is aggression. Dont want to flip out on wife, she already complains about my lack of sensitivity to others

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13bret said:
Kind of scared to try tren but really want to. Only side that makes me nervous is aggression. Dont want to flip out on wife, she already complains about my lack of sensitivity to others
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That is a great reason to go with the -ace. Start out with a low dose, like 25mg ED or 50mg EOD. Tren is some powerful stuff, tread lightly until you see how you respond.
 
13bret said:
Kind of scared to try tren but really want to. Only side that makes me nervous is aggression. Dont want to flip out on wife, she already complains about my lack of sensitivity to others

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Lol.. Brother. You are already snapy. Haha.. You would have her sleeping on the couch for sure. Haha.
 
One has to remember the ace ester releases more tren then the e ester, not just in a faster time frame.

So 250mg of tren e isn't the same as 250mg of tren ace,
 
Mrhat39 said:
Lol.. Brother. You are already snapy. Haha.. You would have her sleeping on the couch for sure. Haha.
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Yeah, but the gains. Lol. Prolly hold off for while, but the want is there.

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Zeus said:
One has to remember the ace ester releases more tren then the e ester, not just in a faster time frame.

So 250mg of tren e isn't the same as 250mg of tren ace,
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Correct. Ace has a higher bioavailability than E so 400mg of E is actually somewhat less than 400mg Ace
 
13bret said:
Kind of scared to try tren but really want to. Only side that makes me nervous is aggression. Dont want to flip out on wife, she already complains about my lack of sensitivity to others

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It effects everyone differently. I found that my aggression on tren is positive aggression. By that I mean more alpha aggression in the gym and life in general. It actually sooths me and makes things go a bit smoother with my gf, probably from the boost in confidence.

On the other hand, I'm a road raging mass murderer waiting to happen. I shouldn't be allowed to drive on tren
 
jbranken said:
It effects everyone differently. I found that my aggression on tren is positive aggression. By that I mean more alpha aggression in the gym and life in general. It actually sooths me and makes things go a bit smoother with my gf, probably from the boost in confidence.

On the other hand, I'm a road raging mass murderer waiting to happen. I shouldn't be allowed to drive on tren
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Yeah, imagine the road rage sucks

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13bret said:
Kind of scared to try tren but really want to. Only side that makes me nervous is aggression. Dont want to flip out on wife, she already complains about my lack of sensitivity to others

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Lol..

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Luckily I don't get night sweats at all. But I have insomnia, a dark lethargic feeling, and a tightness in my chest which really messes up my cardio. It does make me 'pissy', but not a raging idiot (my gf may disagree)..Other then that...... no sides, lol

But I love the shit.
 
This just goes to show how different we all are in our reactions to different compounds. Just because one guy on tren can't hardly handle it because of so many sides the next guy might be just fine with very few sides.


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It gives me really bad acid reflux too. And, if I have a craving for a cheat meal then eat it, half of the time I get sick afterward. That's if I even have an appetite... Tren really fucks with my stomach
 
E for me, though as hex ester is similar length I've never been able to justify the price to try it. I do use tren ace too though, for short cutters, but E is my preference b/c I'm not a fan of pinning at all. If I could just get a doc to give me about 5 of those 6 month test implant pellets every so often I'd be set :) Someone should make a quality version of that, like tren and test pellets for humans!
 
paja said:
The only problem I have with tren is that sweat a lot the all day
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Damn paja, I wouldn't mind sweating during the day. If it's summer, I sweat buckets when I work-out, and get bad night sweats. In the winter, it keeps me warm at nights, just can't use a Heavy blanket, I use a light sheet and a light Comforter (not a down comforter)......................................JP
 
jp4355 said:
Damn paja, I wouldn't mind sweating during the day. If it's summer, I sweat buckets when I work-out, and get bad night sweats. In the winter, it keeps me warm at nights, just can't use a Heavy blanket, I use a light sheet and a light Comforter (not a down comforter)......................................JP
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Lol I can't use blanket because I feel burning inside my body but the pump and the strength is excellent
 
jbranken said:
That's sounds good in theory, but I'll have to disagree.

After trying tren ace a few times, the sides were unbearable at times and I almost gave up on tren altogether. During my current cycle, I've been running Tren E for 9+ weeks and the sides are so much more tolerable that it's definitely my new weapon of choice. No night sweats, insomnia, or tren cough. The E ester allows the tren to build up slower in my system which makes sides manageable rather than being broadsided by them all at once.
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I agree completely. Your body has much more time to adapt with the slow buildup to peak on Tren E, and it makes the sides much more tolerable. I absolutely love Tren E.
 
Tux said:
E for me, though as hex ester is similar length I've never been able to justify the price to try it. I do use tren ace too though, for short cutters, but E is my preference b/c I'm not a fan of pinning at all. If I could just get a doc to give me about 5 of those 6 month test implant pellets every so often I'd be set :) Someone should make a quality version of that, like tren and test pellets for humans!
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I 'am sorry Tux, but for now, you'll have to put those Pellets in the Future or Dream File. I don't see them coming out until all those ole guys in Congress get put out to Pasture, and we get some progressive thinkers put in their place...........................................JP
 
jp4355 said:
I 'am sorry Tux, but for now, you'll have to put those Pellets in the Future or Dream File. I don't see them coming out until all those ole guys in Congress get put out to Pasture, and we get some progressive thinkers put in their place...........................................JP
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Waxman comes to mind.


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Valkyrie said:
Hex? 99% of Tren Hex is fake. Its overdosed TrenAce if you are lucky.
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How do people know this? Not you specifically, but I hear that about masteron too....do people actually know this, or do they guess it cause they are expensive compounds? And as for 99%, is that a statistical figure, or just bro science (BS)?

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Bro science maybe, but tren-ace has more sides than tren-e.... but also greater strength gains and recomping effects. That said, I recommend against running tren first time with enanthate. If you suffer ill effects, ceasing the tren-ace will clear in a couple of days.
 
jerseydevil said:
Bro science maybe, but tren-ace has more sides than tren-e.... but also greater strength gains and recomping effects. That said, I recommend against running tren first time with enanthate. If you suffer ill effects, ceasing the tren-ace will clear in a couple of days.
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addcd2gains said:
I've never ran ace or e, do the sides differ? Or is literally just the ester

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To these, I'll repost my original response. But ultimately, it comes down to preference. My man meathead loves ace. Rick and I love E. There's more bioavailable tren with shorter esters, but tren is tren

"After trying tren ace a few times, the sides were unbearable at times and I almost gave up on tren altogether. During my current cycle, I've been running Tren E for 9+ weeks and the sides are so much more tolerable that it's definitely my new weapon of choice. No night sweats, insomnia, or tren cough. The E ester allows the tren to build up slower in my system which makes sides manageable rather than being broadsided by them all at once."

In theory, one would think ace is the way to go for a beginner to "bail" out but in actuality, I think fewer people would feel the need to bail when using the E ester. The sides just aren't as pronounced because of the slow build up to peak blood levels. It's merely an opinion though, the same as the rest of my ranting lol
 
jbranken said:
To these, I'll repost my original response. But ultimately, it comes down to preference. My man meathead loves ace. Rick and I love E. There's more bioavailable tren with shorter esters, but tren is tren

"After trying tren ace a few times, the sides were unbearable at times and I almost gave up on tren altogether. During my current cycle, I've been running Tren E for 9+ weeks and the sides are so much more tolerable that it's definitely my new weapon of choice. No night sweats, insomnia, or tren cough. The E ester allows the tren to build up slower in my system which makes sides manageable rather than being broadsided by them all at once."

In theory, one would think ace is the way to go for a beginner to "bail" out but in actuality, I think fewer people would feel the need to bail when using the E ester. The sides just aren't as pronounced because of the slow build up to peak blood levels. It's merely an opinion though, the same as the rest of my ranting lol
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Hmm, after hearing about all these sides, I wonder if I really had tren hex, or if it was just test or something. No cough, no insomnia, no sweats. Really, no nothing except aggression

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Which also makes me reconsider running tren "again"
I think I just convinced myself that I'll only run sust or some kind of test

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So does tren keep you up , hart racing like a stimulant were their is no chance of sleep or just on and off sleep , while you sweat your ass off ! I can't stand not being able to sleep .


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
 
Flip Digler said:
So does tren keep you up , hart racing like a stimulant were their is no chance of sleep or just on and off sleep , while you sweat your ass off ! I can't stand not being able to sleep .


Caaannn Uuuu Diigg It ?
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No it's not a stimulant, nor does it raise your heart rate (that I noticed) the sleep deprivation and sweats are just what the hormone does to some people. When women go through menopause they experience similar things. I might venture to say that it's because it's such a fast, dramatic change in your hormones that does it (like menopause) maybe tapering up could counter these effects.

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You've gotta remember that this drug just like any other will affect all of us differently. Your hex may have been hex as the half life is similar to enanthate. Not everyone will get tren cough but those who do are probably using suspension or ace. Not everyone gets night sweats and insomnia either but those who do are also probably using a short ester or suspension as well. Tren ace allows blood levels to peak much faster than hex or Enanthate which means sides come on harder and quicker which is why I say that E is a great choice for a first tren cycle. In the end, you'll end up with the same result
 
jbranken said:
You've gotta remember that this drug just like any other will affect all of us differently. Your hex may have been hex as the half life is similar to enanthate. Not everyone will get tren cough but those who do are probably using suspension or ace. Not everyone gets night sweats and insomnia either but those who do are also probably using a short ester or suspension as well. Tren ace allows blood levels to peak much faster than hex or Enanthate which means sides come on harder and quicker which is why I say that E is a great choice for a first tren cycle. In the end, you'll end up with the same result
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Yeah if I ever ran tren ace I'd taper up... it's so fast acting... you are already jumping off a high dive with say 150mg a week, no need to jump off a helicopter when you end up in the same place. A jump from a heli takes lots of practice and skill... so does a high dive for that matter. If you don't know what you're doing, you gonna fuck yo shit up

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When I first used tren ace many years back I started off at such a low dose, I barely felt anything and worked up the dosage.

I find it best to take unfamiliar things slow. Feel them out, and not just dump something into your body like you can draw out the molecular structure on a etch-a-sketch.
 
^^^ exactly! That should be the protocol for any first comer. We all do it with things like clen, t3.
 
Yeezus, yes, most everyone i know personally, even those who have been on aas longer then myself still taper up even orals. Doesn't matter if they just ran dianabol at 80mg or higher on there last cycle. They still start off low.

Tren is a class of its own too.
 
Zeus said:
When I first used tren ace many years back I started off at such a low dose, I barely felt anything and worked up the dosage.

I find it best to take unfamiliar things slow. Feel them out, and not just dump something into your body like you can draw out the molecular structure on a etch-a-sketch.
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Solid copy


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Zeus said:
Hmm my sides were never THAT bad for me. I prefer ace over hex or e. I always felt that sides will be sides either way really by my experiences. I can see how you felt the sides built up from the longer ester break down. Which would allow for tolerance build up of a degree.

When u used ace and later the e was it at the same mg a week?
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also was it the same brand...
 
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