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Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
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  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
 
FWIW at 20 and at your size you can do so much with heavy lifting and diet alone - I think you are jumping onto gear way too soon.
But below are my answers:

1 - I am an ectomorph too. Sadly no such thing as rapid mass gian for us - even on a T + Deca + Dbol for me.
For guys like us you need a safe, long term plan - it will take years to pack on good muscle mass and don't just go for full bloat/water.
2 - no idea Im sure someone else can chime in
3 - 250mg/week is a cycle fwiw. 375mg/wk is too. Either way you will be shut down and need proper PCT after - you are young you will want to keep your fetility.
4 - make sure liver enzymes and renal funciton are good - as well as the usual T and E2 ranges.
5 - My first cycle was 300mg/week (12weeks) with 20mg Var in first 6 - nice lean gains
Second was T 500mg/wk (12) and 50mg Var first week
Then T + Mast 500/400 - great lean gains too
Then a couple of T + Deca cycles - again had nice lean gains

Test only is always a good first cycle - make sure you use AI and PCT.

It will take a while - don't rush it.

Upload some physique pics also - need to see where you are starting from.
 
What kinda rec drugs? Why did your doctor say that? I have a copy of Zyzz's old powerpoint presentation -> save to pdf eBook if you want a copy. Goes over his training and diet (keto) but not gear. Probably for the best given the gear didn't exactly go well 😅 I love Zyzz don't get me wrong, but I don't think you've thought this through.

I'd have a good think before making life long commitments at 20. I committed to herion and alcohol for life at 20, it didn't work out. Now I have to go into a pharmacy to take medicine every day. I could stop that if I planned it out and tapered for 2 years, unlike TRT. Herion was overwhelmingly positive at first too... but shit changes on you.

And two more decades only gets you to 40 bro 😂
 
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vanlife_gymbum said:
What kinda rec drugs? Why did your doctor say that? I have a copy of Zyzz's old powerpoint presentation -> save to pdf eBook if you want a copy. Goes over his training and diet (keto) but not gear. Probably for the best given the gear didn't exactly go well 😅 I love Zyzz don't get me wrong, but I don't think you've thought this through.

I'd have a good think before making life long commitments at 20. I committed to herion and alcohol for life at 20, it didn't work out. Now I have to go into a pharmacy to take medicine every day. I could stop that if I planned it out and tapered for 2 years, unlike TRT. Herion was overwhelmingly positive at first too... but shit changes on you.

And two more decades only gets you to 40 bro 😂
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The doc knew about all the stuff I've sniffed, smoked and swallowed; was probably surprised to see a perfectly normal ECG...After all I visited him because of a chest pain(it was pecs not heart thankfully).

You're talking about Zyzz's "bodybuilding bible" right? I do have a pdf, thanks for asking 🙂

On my TRT idea...Test is doing for me what a bunch of psych meds rotated over a year couldn't, I have no reason to not love it. I'd rather trade lifespan and hair for the demons in my head...sounds fair? 😉 Cuz at least I'll do what I want to do before I die.
 
vanlife_gymbum said:
What kinda rec drugs? Why did your doctor say that? I have a copy of Zyzz's old powerpoint presentation -> save to pdf eBook if you want a copy. Goes over his training and diet (keto) but not gear. Probably for the best given the gear didn't exactly go well 😅 I love Zyzz don't get me wrong, but I don't think you've thought this through.

I'd have a good think before making life long commitments at 20. I committed to herion and alcohol for life at 20, it didn't work out. Now I have to go into a pharmacy to take medicine every day. I could stop that if I planned it out and tapered for 2 years, unlike TRT. Herion was overwhelmingly positive at first too... but shit changes on you.

And two more decades only gets you to 40 bro 😂
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Loved. He's dead.

Diet: the answer is obvious. You ask:
Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?

Yes. But only if you wish to stay that size. You're still do young and even allowing for your stubborn (ignoring of advice) going ahead with the 'plan' you're using around what most use for TRT.

It is, to be brutally frank, a mess. I've already stated in the other thread that the diet needs fixing. You cannot gain much more than 1-2 kilos (as per studies) without eating for the size you want to be. Example: you weigh 138lbs. If you planned on hitting 150lbs how will that happen if you eat for the 138lbs? Eat for 145lbs starting today. IGNORE using ANY PEDS until this is fixed.

Training too, even allowing for the simple fact that you've literally only been training 14 months, is weak as fuck. WHY are you using steroids when, by way of example, you bench 40kg/88lbs? You'd get more from doing press-ups with your feet on a chair.

You MUST fix this.

One plus: as an ecto-morph (not untypical for what looks like an Asian / Indian) you DO compounds. Post up ALL your training. I'm gonna crack the whip here and put up targets.
 
blitzkreigboy said:
The doc knew about all the stuff I've sniffed, smoked and swallowed; was probably surprised to see a perfectly normal ECG...After all I visited him because of a chest pain(it was pecs not heart thankfully).
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That sounds funny but it's not really. You still didn't tell me what drugs tho.

blitzkreigboy said:
You're talking about Zyzz's "bodybuilding bible" right? I do have a pdf, thanks for asking 🙂
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You're welcome bro, glad you've read it. It's not bad stuff man, you should follow it. How about you start a log here and I will watch you every day and point the others to you when you need help. There's many pros here and while we are going to criticise you and encourage you to do things properly at the end of it you will look like Zyzz.

You're not gonna get much Zyzz love here in general but I love Zyzz and I think it's cool that you're inspired by him even though you were what... 7 years old when he died?

I used to talk to him on rave forums when I lived in Australia, I didn't atcually know he lifted until after he died. I also read all of his forum logs unlike most... now it's your turn to have your own log! But unlike Zyzz you'll get real feedback on yours not just more trolls.

blitzkreigboy said:
On my TRT idea...Test is doing for me what a bunch of psych meds rotated over a year couldn't, I have no reason to not love it. I'd rather trade lifespan and hair for the demons in my head...sounds fair? 😉 Cuz at least I'll do what I want to do before I die.
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Bro I'm not your mum and I'm not going to argue that, believe me I love testosterone but you're 20.

It's lame to need to inject it at 20. I'm embarrassed I have to at 40. Going to the doctors and shit all the time is lame. Being on a lifelong meditation is weak, it means there's a problem. When tinder chicks drop me off in the morning I have to ask them to stop at the pharmacy on the way, it's embarrassing.

I can't even remember what I did when I was 20. Truely I can't. Can't even remember what city I lived in.

You don't have a good reason not to PCT. You're already pushing your link doing it before you're brain is developed. And look at your body bro you're not fully grown yet. You look 18 to me. You do kinda look like Zyzz before pictures tho. You're skinny like he was for sure. I'm one of the only Zyzz defenders here and I do think you should go for the look I just recon if you did all thar shit in the Zyzz PDF you'd be able to get there.

We're not trying to stop bro but let you know how it is. Zyzz was about 68kg right? The other guy who replied to you @Mobster can squat 5 times that amount.

Like stack the entire 2011 Asthetics Crew up and stick them on Mobster's back and he can do squats... and also Zyzz is dead. Which one is more likely to get laid? Plus he just offered to help ah, motivate you. Look the guy up. Doesn't he look like the kinda guy who makes you want to do what you're told?

You don't have to die to look like Zyzz. And Zyzz already tried the 500mg of tren for you, it didn't work out. Take all the positives from him and leave the rest behind. Zyzz was a character invented to help overcome self limitations. You can do this also. Remember when he said "there's a little bit of Zyzz in all of us"? That's what he meant bro, use the device in your own life.

I wish I got into lifting when I was 20 for sure, but don't burn out and die at 22 like Zyzz !! People will start making up shit like that you died in the sauna at a gay bathhouse in Thailand and nobody will read your logs.

I wanted to start at 24 I think, in 2008 but I atcually made one of my rare sensible decisions and decided not to start on steriods until I could get off recreational drugs and alcohol and that took another 17 years.

So my advice to you is start a log, start training and eating, let's go through the zyzz book together and do that shit in the gym. I'll do it with you and point you in the right direction whenyou get stuck, I'm learning too using the resources here - the forum, podcast, articles, etc.

Listen to this podcast episode (the podcast hosts are @Mobster and @stevesmi on the forum btw) about how and why to start a log:

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Remember what Zyzz said bro:

Stop being a fucking sad cunt.​
Go to the gym, get bitches.​
​
None of this sad-cunt shit.​
​
You want to be a little sad cunt?​
Fuck that shit bro.​
You'll never be like Zyzz.​
​
Coz I'm a fucking sick cunt mate.​
I'm the fucking sickest cunt.​
​
You're a sick-cunt if you wanna be!​
Be a sick cunt like zyzz brah!​
 
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blitzkreigboy said:
Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
​
  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
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good start to your log :D please add pics of you face blurred so we can get your base and approved the log @blitzkreigboy
 
Mobster said:
Loved. He's dead.

Diet: the answer is obvious. You ask:
Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?

Yes. But only if you wish to stay that size. You're still do young and even allowing for your stubborn (ignoring of advice) going ahead with the 'plan' you're using around what most use for TRT.

It is, to be brutally frank, a mess. I've already stated in the other thread that the diet needs fixing. You cannot gain much more than 1-2 kilos (as per studies) without eating for the size you want to be. Example: you weigh 138lbs. If you planned on hitting 150lbs how will that happen if you eat for the 138lbs? Eat for 145lbs starting today. IGNORE using ANY PEDS until this is fixed.

Training too, even allowing for the simple fact that you've literally only been training 14 months, is weak as fuck. WHY are you using steroids when, by way of example, you bench 40kg/88lbs? You'd get more from doing press-ups with your feet on a chair.

You MUST fix this.

One plus: as an ecto-morph (not untypical for what looks like an Asian / Indian) you DO compounds. Post up ALL your training. I'm gonna crack the whip here and put up targets.
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I'm with @Mobster on this one. I woulda worded it even more harsh to be honest if that woulda helped you try and consider the advice. I can't even begin to dissect what needs to be adjusted here or maybe I'm being lazy.

Because I know Mobster a little bit now I could actually hear him saying this to you and I had an out loud chuckle, thanks for that Mobster.
 
Mobster said:
Loved. He's dead.

Diet: the answer is obvious. You ask:
Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?

Yes. But only if you wish to stay that size. You're still do young and even allowing for your stubborn (ignoring of advice) going ahead with the 'plan' you're using around what most use for TRT.

It is, to be brutally frank, a mess. I've already stated in the other thread that the diet needs fixing. You cannot gain much more than 1-2 kilos (as per studies) without eating for the size you want to be. Example: you weigh 138lbs. If you planned on hitting 150lbs how will that happen if you eat for the 138lbs? Eat for 145lbs starting today. IGNORE using ANY PEDS until this is fixed.

Training too, even allowing for the simple fact that you've literally only been training 14 months, is weak as fuck. WHY are you using steroids when, by way of example, you bench 40kg/88lbs? You'd get more from doing press-ups with your feet on a chair.

You MUST fix this.

One plus: as an ecto-morph (not untypical for what looks like an Asian / Indian) you DO compounds. Post up ALL your training. I'm gonna crack the whip here and put up targets.
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If this doesn't slap the reality into this kid I don't know what will. This and the other thread were a crazy read.
Big ups Mobster that's some real shit!
 
@blitzkreigboy Welcome to the EVO family! You are my oldest son's age. I am on TRT medically prescribed and at 49. I have done an 8 week cycle on top of my 200mg/ week of TRT of oxandrolone 50mg a week for 8 weeks took a break and then did 12 weeks of 500mg a week of test cyp. I will tell u the drugs did not give me the kind of gains I thought I should have gotten. I will tell you the things that make the difference is eating a lot of protein. I am talking pounds of meat a day. Training like a beast in the gym. You got to get these things down first. Your first 3-5 years are your years of getting some great years to get your newbie gaines. I will tell you what I tell my son's. Spend your twenties natural, learn your body, learn to lift like your idol and push your natural limits. Then in your 30's go and push your limits with anabolics if u want. You haven't even learned yet what is the best training and exercises that your body reacts best to. If you blasting how will u know what works best for your body or if it's just drugs pushing u. I get the test. Is making you feel good in your head. I would go and tell your doctor what your doing and tell him that the test is helping your mental state and ask him to help find the reason and cause of what the underlining condition is that the test is helping. Then see if once figure out the underlining condition ask him is there a better solution or is the test really the best solution for you. You never know there may be a better and safer solution. I do get it and know how it makes you feel great. I was really low test and once I got on TRT it changed my life and made me feel so much better mentally. Maybe you are already low t and maybe you can do some other things at your age to get your levels back up and make you feel better. I have to pin frequently to keep my estrogen down. It's is not fun but I do it because I need the medicine for my medical condition. I agree with mobster and Harleyguy and told you the same as I tell my own kids, wait. This is a marathon not speed race. I don't know what episodes they are but @stevesmi has gone over what doing all this can do to your reproductive system. You may not think u want kids now but you meet that one girl who does and u will do everything for her. Then u can't give her the one thing they do want, a child. This will be devastating to you and her just because you wanted to abuse drugs. Just think really hard about all this. Bro, just get back to the basics and work hard. I say all this in hopes u take the advice from the old guys because we want the best for you in all aspects of your life. Like Lev told u also we are not hear to give whatever advice but we are here in this group to give you the right advice and not always the popular advice or the social media advice but the best advice. We actually all care about each other here and we care about you as well and hope to guide u to be your best.
 
Mobster said:
For who he was. More so cos you had some contact with him (read your reply)
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Hmmm that made it sound a bit more than it was - we were on the same big rave forum in Australia when I first moved to Melbourne in 2011 when I was looking for raves to go to that summer and his videos of his zyzz character dancing to hardstyle and gabba trance were popular. I didn't atcually realise he lifted until after he died and was in the news.

Ended up going to a rave new years 2011/2o12 at a giant bat sanctuary and as we were leaving while the sun was about to come up like hoards of thousands of bats flew over our heads, the sky went dark and it was like a sea of bats and so fucking loud, it was a pretty crazy experience.
 
kcates said:
@blitzkreigboy Welcome to the EVO family! You are my oldest son's age. I am on TRT medically prescribed and at 49. I have done an 8 week cycle on top of my 200mg/ week of TRT of oxandrolone 50mg a week for 8 weeks took a break and then did 12 weeks of 500mg a week of test cyp. I will tell u the drugs did not give me the kind of gains I thought I should have gotten. I will tell you the things that make the difference is eating a lot of protein. I am talking pounds of meat a day. Training like a beast in the gym. You got to get these things down first. Your first 3-5 years are your years of getting some great years to get your newbie gaines. I will tell you what I tell my son's. Spend your twenties natural, learn your body, learn to lift like your idol and push your natural limits. Then in your 30's go and push your limits with anabolics if u want. You haven't even learned yet what is the best training and exercises that your body reacts best to. If you blasting how will u know what works best for your body or if it's just drugs pushing u. I get the test. Is making you feel good in your head. I would go and tell your doctor what your doing and tell him that the test is helping your mental state and ask him to help find the reason and cause of what the underlining condition is that the test is helping. Then see if once figure out the underlining condition ask him is there a better solution or is the test really the best solution for you. You never know there may be a better and safer solution. I do get it and know how it makes you feel great. I was really low test and once I got on TRT it changed my life and made me feel so much better mentally. Maybe you are already low t and maybe you can do some other things at your age to get your levels back up and make you feel better. I have to pin frequently to keep my estrogen down. It's is not fun but I do it because I need the medicine for my medical condition. I agree with mobster and Harleyguy and told you the same as I tell my own kids, wait. This is a marathon not speed race. I don't know what episodes they are but @stevesmi has gone over what doing all this can do to your reproductive system. You may not think u want kids now but you meet that one girl who does and u will do everything for her. Then u can't give her the one thing they do want, a child. This will be devastating to you and her just because you wanted to abuse drugs. Just think really hard about all this. Bro, just get back to the basics and work hard. I say all this in hopes u take the advice from the old guys because we want the best for you in all aspects of your life. Like Lev told u also we are not hear to give whatever advice but we are here in this group to give you the right advice and not always the popular advice or the social media advice but the best advice. We actually all care about each other here and we care about you as well and hope to guide u to be your best.
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Awesome post bro!! We should start a trend to eat at least a kilo of meat a day. Swap tips pn eays to get it down.

I'm gonna have to move to lean meats due to being on retatrutide and unable to tolerate fatty cuts like I used to. I have no experience with lean meats. I'm already doing 20 raw eggs in shakes a day, gonna add bone broth and more fish. The eggs are healing me :)
 
@thread Appreciate the reality check. that’s why I’m here, to stress-test my approach against people who’ve done this longer. I don't deny my weak lifts or calories, they're being fixed from today . i'm documenting everything precisely. I’d love to benchmark my lifts and targets with you guys. If Mobster’s cracking the whip I’m all in.

Just a heads-up: I’m a few hours ahead of most of you. That’s why some replies may come delayed. not ignoring anyone, just different time zones.
 
@Mobster @HarleyGuy
That slap of reality is exactly why I came here. I’ll post my training routine prototype later today and eat for the size I want to be. The gear was never a shortcut, although it's why i started; now it's to stabilize what’s in my head so I could finally stay on track. Without the test shots i wouldn't be here at all. but I’ll take the advice: structure before enhancement.
 
@vanlife_gymbum makes me glad that you get the philosophy behind Zyzz, not the memes but the mindset.🤝 Of course I do not want to play tragic copycat but see how far that fire can go under control. And yeah, I was seven when he died but discovered him only a year ago. I believe that its now my turn to evolve the myth and spread the word. ✌️
 
Thanks a lot, @kcates, appreciate you taking the time to write that. The fundamentals are being fixed now. I get your perspective on the 3–5 year newbie window. That said, the test has helped my mood and I’m trying to be responsible with it. Why i'm glorifying it is because it's done in 2 months what 4 antidepressants couldn't do in 2 years. I get the long-term consequences and fertility concerns. Low-key that "one girl who does want kids and for who i will do everything" is gone. so it's not at the top of my list of priorites for now, won't be for some time.
Thanks again. I want this to be a log that earns the forum’s trust, not another script for a yt video. Appreciate the mentorship.
 
@rizzlekdizzle
Respect. My genetics will never mirror Zyzz’s, but proportions can right? my goal’s to max out what i've got. Appreciate the straight talk.
We ectomorphs gonna make it brah.
 
Guys,
I've put this together as a baseline diet plan.

Meal 1 (Breakfast):
100g oats + 6 tsp powdered milk + 1 banana + 3 eggs

Meal 2 (Lunch):
200g chicken breast + 2 cups rice + 3 tbsp. sesame oil

Meal 3 (Pre):
100g oats + 6 tsp powdered milk + 1 banana

Meal 4 (Post):
2 scoops whey + 3 tsp powdered milk

Meal 5 (Dinner):
300g chicken breast + 2 cups rice + 3 eggs

Meal 6 (Before bed):
6 tsp powdered milk

Approx: 3840 kcal, 280g protein

Brutal honesty time:
Am I eating enough?
Anything I’m missing for max gains?
Any tweaks for an ecto at my weight?
 
vanlife_gymbum said:
Awesome post bro!! We should start a trend to eat at least a kilo of meat a day. Swap tips pn eays to get it down.

I'm gonna have to move to lean meats due to being on retatrutide and unable to tolerate fatty cuts like I used to. I have no experience with lean meats. I'm already doing 20 raw eggs in shakes a day, gonna add bone broth and more fish. The eggs are healing me :)
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I have that same issue. Before Glp-1 I loved fatty meat. My wife would cut off the fat on her steaks and give it to me. Now it's to rich for me. I can't eat it. Good thing it's a good thing don't need all that extra fat anyways. I am still not a big fan of chicken breast though. I prefer the fattier thighs still.
 
I made a spreadsheet so that i can fill it while in the gym, I’ll update it daily and post highlights here. Please comment on the selection of exercises and the splits. The sheet is online so you guys can track me.
Gym Log

Off to discuss with a doctor on TRT and fertility.
😇✌️
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
​
  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
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blitzkreigboy said:
Physique pics:
This is my first time posting pictures on the Internet 😁
View attachment 131837View attachment 131838View attachment 131840

Some good stuff to add...will post in a few hours
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Now fully welcome to the EVO family :D @blitzkreigboy
We talked in private so I know you're not from USA or western place, if you want you can post where you're from but I wont say it.
Thats the reason he used ai to clean up his writing fyi for the VIPs and MODs.

Good start posting this log, but before you think TRT for life you need to run this as a full 3-4 week pre-TRT log here. That means tracking bloodwork, diet accuracy, and training progress weekly so we see if your body stabilizes naturally or if you’re rushing long term commitment too fast. At 20 years old you need verified labs over time before any lifetime hormone move. Though I'm not sure how blood work works in your country, can you get it done?

Keep this log detailed for the next month with your weight, weekly lifts, calories, and how you feel on rest days and after training. Add progress pics each week and post bloodwork once ready so we can shape your next step smart and safe. That’s how we guide you properly into a structured long term plan instead of a quick jump.
blitzkreigboy said:
Guys,
I've put this together as a baseline diet plan.

Meal 1 (Breakfast):
100g oats + 6 tsp powdered milk + 1 banana + 3 eggs

Meal 2 (Lunch):
200g chicken breast + 2 cups rice + 3 tbsp. sesame oil

Meal 3 (Pre):
100g oats + 6 tsp powdered milk + 1 banana

Meal 4 (Post):
2 scoops whey + 3 tsp powdered milk

Meal 5 (Dinner):
300g chicken breast + 2 cups rice + 3 eggs

Meal 6 (Before bed):
6 tsp powdered milk

Approx: 3840 kcal, 280g protein

Brutal honesty time:
Am I eating enough?
Anything I’m missing for max gains?
Any tweaks for an ecto at my weight?
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For your diet to start, can you use whole milk or you have a budget issue with this?
can you add 1 scoop of whey protein to meal 1? and 2 more eggs?
meal 2 can you swap sesame oil for olive or flaxseed oil?
meal 4 whole milk possible?
meal 6 can you add 2 scoops whey?
 
blitzkreigboy said:
@thread Appreciate the reality check. that’s why I’m here, to stress-test my approach against people who’ve done this longer. I don't deny my weak lifts or calories, they're being fixed from today . i'm documenting everything precisely. I’d love to benchmark my lifts and targets with you guys. If Mobster’s cracking the whip I’m all in.

Just a heads-up: I’m a few hours ahead of most of you. That’s why some replies may come delayed. not ignoring anyone, just different time zones.
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@blitzkreigboy Don't worry about that. We all have different time zones and there's people on here from all over the world. What time zone are you in?
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
​
  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
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At the end of the day you're only 20 years old. Keep in mind you will need to keep the cycle short and you will need to make sure you fully recover before you do another cycle. Otherwise you will burn your reproductive system out. @blitzkreigboy
 
rizzlekdizzle said:
you need to eat eat eat and lift heavy. Your genetics will mean you never look like Zyzz - just work hard at your own potential for years before considering PED's
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Bros. I agree with this for sure. plus zyzz killed himself from over doing it. @blitzkreigboy starting too young is very anti aging to your body
 
blitzkreigboy said:
I made a spreadsheet so that i can fill it while in the gym, I’ll update it daily and post highlights here. Please comment on the selection of exercises and the splits. The sheet is online so you guys can track me.
Gym Log

Off to discuss with a doctor on TRT and fertility.
😇✌️
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@blitzkreigboy Okay, good. The best thing you can do is dial in your training. You're still super young and you have many years ahead of you.
 
Log (22/10/25):
Squat- 10kg- 8,8,8,8
RDL-15kg- 11,11
Leg press- 9kg- 12,12,10
Leg curls- 3kg- 12,12,11
Calf raises- 20kg- 15, 12, 12

Started today after a "deload" week 😁
Felt dizzy mid RDLs

Is this the correct format for the log?
Please comment on my session.
✌️

@stevesmi I'm in GMT+5.30 and No it's not India 😄
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
​
  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
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As others have said 20 years old man, there's just no need for steroids at this time. I wish you would focus your Log on dialing in your diet and your training. As others have said, that would be a much smarter idea. But if you insist on using steroids, it's your body and your choice. Just be aware of the consequences and make sure you Log what happens when you come off. @blitzkreigboy
 
ROIDDERS said:
As others have said 20 years old man, there's just no need for steroids at this time. I wish you would focus your Log on dialing in your diet and your training. As others have said, that would be a much smarter idea. But if you insist on using steroids, it's your body and your choice. Just be aware of the consequences and make sure you Log what happens when you come off. @blitzkreigboy
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Thanks for the emphasis @ROIDDERS
Basics first, compounds second 🫡
That v-taper looks legendary 😍
 
ROIDDERS said:
so you are going to use steroids when? i would aim to use them at maybe 24-25 but that is just me
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That's the question...😄
A box of test e and a bottle each of var and dbol are staring at me from a distance
I'll keep posting logs and hopefully you guys will tell me when i can, I'm ready
 
LevButlerov said:
Now fully welcome to the EVO family :D @blitzkreigboy
We talked in private so I know you're not from USA or western place, if you want you can post where you're from but I wont say it.
Thats the reason he used ai to clean up his writing fyi for the VIPs and MODs.

Good start posting this log, but before you think TRT for life you need to run this as a full 3-4 week pre-TRT log here. That means tracking bloodwork, diet accuracy, and training progress weekly so we see if your body stabilizes naturally or if you’re rushing long term commitment too fast. At 20 years old you need verified labs over time before any lifetime hormone move. Though I'm not sure how blood work works in your country, can you get it done?

Keep this log detailed for the next month with your weight, weekly lifts, calories, and how you feel on rest days and after training. Add progress pics each week and post bloodwork once ready so we can shape your next step smart and safe. That’s how we guide you properly into a structured long term plan instead of a quick jump.

For your diet to start, can you use whole milk or you have a budget issue with this?
can you add 1 scoop of whey protein to meal 1? and 2 more eggs?
meal 2 can you swap sesame oil for olive or flaxseed oil?
meal 4 whole milk possible?
meal 6 can you add 2 scoops whey?
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@LevButlerov thanks a lot for the warm welcome
Yes, I will run this log for at least 3 weeks so that we can dial the basics in before anything else. I can also record my pre-cycle bloodwork once I schedule it, got some US-accredited labs here

I find powdered milk to be more convenient as it has a longer shelf life but if whole milk's the real deal, i'll switch
I will make the other changes in the meal plan

Thanks again for the guidance :)
 
blitzkreigboy said:
@LevButlerov thanks a lot for the warm welcome
Yes, I will run this log for at least 3 weeks so that we can dial the basics in before anything else. I can also record my pre-cycle bloodwork once I schedule it, got some US-accredited labs here

I find powdered milk to be more convenient as it has a longer shelf life but if whole milk's the real deal, i'll switch
I will make the other changes in the meal plan

Thanks again for the guidance :)
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Good lets start with bloods :D @blitzkreigboy

and milk if possible get it, if not use the powder but the milk should always mix with whey, try to get to 300 grams protein and 300 grams carbs.
 
Log 23.10.25:
Bench-7.5- 8,6,7
Incline DB press-7- 10,11,10,10
Overhead press-6- 9,7,9
Lateral raises-4- 9,7,7
Pushdowns-5- 12,12,12
Overhead extensions-1- 5,5

During the first set of overhead extensions my arms started burning and failed; wouldn't budge even if I tried to "make" it contract

Made some changes in the meal plan as @LevButlerov suggested
Might have overshot the calorie target today, had a couple more bananas and a packet of crackers
 
blitzkreigboy said:
That's the question...😄
A box of test e and a bottle each of var and dbol are staring at me from a distance
I'll keep posting logs and hopefully you guys will tell me when i can, I'm ready
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Well, at the end of the day you're probably better off just throwing them in the trash at this point or you can just store them for a few years. At the end of the day though, it's your decision.
 
ROIDDERS said:
Well, at the end of the day you're probably better off just throwing them in the trash at this point or you can just store them for a few years. At the end of the day though, it's your decision.
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LOL, that seems like the right thing to do...
But anyways let's give it a month 👀
 
ROIDDERS said:
IMO the only reason someone your age should use steroids is if you are a legit future pro bodybuilder and are okay with blowing out your hpta for life
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Well that's the point...that IS the point 🙂
 
ROIDDERS said:
but look at the mr. olympia top 10. are any of them your age? they are all much older. bodybuilding takes time and you can't short cut things with steroids
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Alright brah...completely agree
Roids on the backburner for now since the basics have yet to be fixed
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Alright brah...completely agree
Roids on the backburner for now since the basics have yet to be fixed
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yes man. soak it all in and make the decision. just keep in mind you don't have to use steroids to bodybuild. You still have a lot of work to do when it comes to dialing in your diet and training, and you're definitely in the right place. Highly recommend you check out the other logs and also see what people are doing that will help you get the most out of everything.
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Hey EVO family,
I’m @blitzkreigboy, just starting my first structured cycle.
First off, big thanks to @LevButlerov for the warm welcome and guidance — really appreciate the insights and direction. Excited to start this log and share updates.

I’m kicking off my Mass Foundation Phase to build a solid size base before progressing to hypertrophy-focused cycles. This log will track training, diet, lifts, and on-cycle metrics weekly.

Stats:
  • Age: 20
  • Height: 183 cm (6’)
  • Weight: 63 kg (139 lbs)
  • Body fat: ~13–15%
  • Body type: Ectomorph
  • Training experience: 3 months tracking (after ~1 year inconsistent lifting)
  • Cycle history: Self-managed Test E plan
  • Goal: Recomposition → Mass foundation → Long-term aesthetic hypertrophy


Current Phase – Pre-Real-Cycle (Sep 4th to Oct 20th)
​
  • Compound: Testosterone Enanthate – 250 mg/week (1 pin Monday); Planning to bump to 375mg this week
  • Support Supplements:
    • Creatine Monohydrate 5g/day
    • Fish Oil 2g/day
    • Vitamin C 500mg/day
    • NAC 1200mg/day
    • Multivitamin complex
    • Magnesium citrate + Zinc
    • Astaxanthin 12mg/day
    • Collagen peptides 1g/day
    • Whey protein (Muscletech ISO)
  • AI / SERMs: None for now
  • Bloodwork: Scheduled 20/10 – baseline total test, E2, SHBG, liver, lipids, thyroid
  • ECG: "Very good! you sure you do rec drugs?" - Doc
  • Current On-Cycle Observations:
    • Libido: elevated
    • Mood: peaceful, energetic, slightly euphoric
    • Acne: noticeable- chest, back and arms
    • Hairline: slight recession (genetic MPB)
    • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night


Nutrition (Daily Approx):
  • Calories: ~2,160 kcal
  • Protein: 124g (~1000 kcal)
  • Carbs: 180g (~720 kcal)
  • Fats: 42g (~360 kcal)
  • Meal Outline:
    1. Breakfast
    2. Lunch
    3. Evening meal
    4. Dinner


Training:
  • Split: PPL
  • Frequency: 3-4x/week
  • Duration: ~2.5 hours per session
  • Rep Range: 10-12 reps, 3-4 working sets
  • Compounds: Bench, Squat, Overhead Press
  • Current Working Loads (kg plates per side):
    • Bench: 10 kg/side
    • Squat: 25 kg/side
    • OHP: 8kg(Dumbbells)
  • Training a rep away from failure/ to failure


Cardio / Recovery:
  • Cardio: 1x/week incline treadmill walks(15-20 min), Muzzing (?)
  • Sleep: 6–7 hrs/night
  • Stress: Moderate (~6/10)
  • Stimulants: Occasional modafinil, no caffeine


Short/Medium/Long-Term Goals:
  • Next 6 months: Rapid size/mass gain (aggressive)
  • 3–4 years: Achieve aesthetic proportions (Zyzz-type physique)
  • Long-term: Build mass while maintaining aesthetics (More like Arnie)
  • Priority: Initially speed > aesthetics > longevity; longevity more important later


Personal Philosophy:
“I train with urgency — life’s uncertain — but I’m methodical, data-driven, and under medical supervision. I want to be the guy who maximizes the body I’m given, insanely fast...but safe enough to live a couple decades more.”

I plan to manage my testosterone levels long-term and commit to TRT for life under medical supervision. I prefer to blast and cruise over cycling as the mental effects have been overwhelmingly positive.

Feedback Requested:
  1. What would be the ideal training frequency & volume sufficient for rapid mass gain while on cycle?
  2. Are my calories and protein intake appropriate for a 63kg ectomorph on Test E?
  3. Is 375mg/week justified as a starting dose or could i push higher?
  4. What are the tests I must get? Any tips to optimize pre-bloodwork readings for accurate baseline measurements?
  5. I’d appreciate suggestions on compounds and cycle structures for each phase- foundation mass, hypertrophy, and long-term aesthetic growth; keeping in mind my goal to build Zyzz-level aesthetics first, then work toward bigger proportions.

I understand the risks and value guidance, but I’m committed to this and taking full responsibility.

Appreciate all constructive feedback — looking forward to keeping the log updated.
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@blitzkreigboy nice start to the log man we are glad to have you here on evo! 375 mgs a week would be a good starting dose in my eyes.
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Log 23.10.25:
Bench-7.5- 8,6,7
Incline DB press-7- 10,11,10,10
Overhead press-6- 9,7,9
Lateral raises-4- 9,7,7
Pushdowns-5- 12,12,12
Overhead extensions-1- 5,5

During the first set of overhead extensions my arms started burning and failed; wouldn't budge even if I tried to "make" it contract

Made some changes in the meal plan as @LevButlerov suggested
Might have overshot the calorie target today, had a couple more bananas and a packet of crackers
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good training but try to train in 6 to 15 drops, set of 6 slow squeeze and drop set to 15.

how did you change food? I mean protein wise.
I'm interested in carbs protein you can get in. @blitzkreigboy
 
LevButlerov said:
good training but try to train in 6 to 15 drops, set of 6 slow squeeze and drop set to 15.

how did you change food? I mean protein wise.
I'm interested in carbs protein you can get in. @blitzkreigboy
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Got it Lev,
Added a scoop of whey protein for breakfast, 500ml of whole milk post-workout and 1 scoop of whey protein before bed

Bloods to be done today
 
Glad you have decided to take on the advice from the vets here brother. Sometimes it can come across blunt but sometimes it needs to be said that way.

Yeah you are young but so are other on here that run gear. The difference is their training and nutrition is dialled the fuck in 👌 and are in a much later stage of there journey not age wise but experience wise.

Dont take the sharpness of some comments to heart its coming from a good place believe me.

Pay close attention to the advice from @LevButlerov and big @Mobster. Stick to their guidlines for the next 6 weeks minimum and i guarantee you will see significant changes!

Keep all progress with training and food in your log and be honest about it too, no one gets it right all the time but if you log isnt honest the the guidance isnt going to be effective.

You say you want to make a change and grow, get yourself the muscle thats gonna make you feel better about yourself well this is where it starts. Lock in, dig deep train fucking hard and what you put it is what you get back.

Welcome to Evo young brother, hope you lock it down and fucking smash it but that will come down to you. All the best 👊
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Got it Lev,
Added a scoop of whey protein for breakfast, 500ml of whole milk post-workout and 1 scoop of whey protein before bed

Bloods to be done today
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Update us with diet :D
 
Couldn't get my ass up today to go gym
Meals as planned

Allupfromhere said:
Glad you have decided to take on the advice from the vets here brother. Sometimes it can come across blunt but sometimes it needs to be said that way.

Yeah you are young but so are other on here that run gear. The difference is their training and nutrition is dialled the fuck in 👌 and are in a much later stage of there journey not age wise but experience wise.

Dont take the sharpness of some comments to heart its coming from a good place believe me.

Pay close attention to the advice from @LevButlerov and big @Mobster. Stick to their guidlines for the next 6 weeks minimum and i guarantee you will see significant changes!

Keep all progress with training and food in your log and be honest about it too, no one gets it right all the time but if you log isnt honest the the guidance isnt going to be effective.

You say you want to make a change and grow, get yourself the muscle thats gonna make you feel better about yourself well this is where it starts. Lock in, dig deep train fucking hard and what you put it is what you get back.

Welcome to Evo young brother, hope you lock it down and fucking smash it but that will come down to you. All the best 👊
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Appreciate you brother 👊 means a lot coming from someone who’s been around and done it right

Yeah I can tell the bluntness here comes from experience, i need to be hearing the vets out. I’ve already started applying everything you guys said

Promise I’ll keep this log 100% real. Just putting in work and learning from you all. Thanks again for the welcome bro, I’ll make sure to earn it
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Couldn't get my ass up today to go gym
Meals as planned


Appreciate you brother 👊 means a lot coming from someone who’s been around and done it right

Yeah I can tell the bluntness here comes from experience, i need to be hearing the vets out. I’ve already started applying everything you guys said

Promise I’ll keep this log 100% real. Just putting in work and learning from you all. Thanks again for the welcome bro, I’ll make sure to earn it
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why no gym? :D @blitzkreigboy
get some home push ups and squats done
 
Hey guysss
Hit the gym after 2 days

Bench-10-7,6,6,7
Incline bench-7.5-10,7,8
Overhead press-6-12,10,10,12
Lateral raises-4-12,9,11,12
Tricep pushdowns- 5-6,5,6,10 (not sure what happened today)
Overhead extensions-9-10,8,10,9

Feeling very sleepy rn, have some good stuff to post, tomorrow
✌️🙂
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Hey guysss
Hit the gym after 2 days

Bench-10-7,6,6,7
Incline bench-7.5-10,7,8
Overhead press-6-12,10,10,12
Lateral raises-4-12,9,11,12
Tricep pushdowns- 5-6,5,6,10 (not sure what happened today)
Overhead extensions-9-10,8,10,9

Feeling very sleepy rn, have some good stuff to post, tomorrow
✌️🙂
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Good training day, did you do any cardio?
overhead presses, what was the weight?
how was your food today? :D @blitzkreigboy
 
LevButlerov said:
Good training day, did you do any cardio?
overhead presses, what was the weight?
how was your food today? :D @blitzkreigboy
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Thanks Lev,
6kg for the overhead press(DB)
i've been following the meal plan that was posted plus your recommendations. a few extra carb-snacks here and there, more bananas as well
 
So I've been re-thinking this TRT thing...

Every other side looks manageable but the cardiac re-modelling. It's crazy that even 150mg/week of test can cause noticeable left-ventricle hypertrophy over a couple of years and becomes significant enough over 5-10 years to cause an event. Lipids are manageable, Blood pressure is manageable, Blood viscosity is manageable, and hence atherosclerosis...but even if you have all these on point, there's anyways the confounded risk of irreversible structural modification like LVH, fibrosis and cardiomyopathy which'll make you drop dead in the middle of the night. And to make things worse, heart issues run in the family.

The only compounds that i was planning to ever do were test, deca and var but i'm kinda reconsidering even TRT-dose test now.
The drive and the superhuman feeling that i can take over the world is intoxicating but heart failure...what a turn-off

A part of me says to stay "natty" or more like "borderline-natty" until i hit 25/28 and then blast gear but then i want to get shredded before 23......
It wouldn't make sense to be a twig at college and get jacked after graduation right?

I think it'd be better to drop the juicing idea for now but who knows? In a couple days i might post saying that i don't care about dying of heart failure at 30 😂

I've been looking into compounds that don't mess with the heart directly/not as much; enclomiphene, pregnenolone, prohormones, SARMs are some that i've shortlisted. These stuff obviously cannot equal real gear in terms of gains but just for the slight edge over being a virgin/natty/pussy/whatever

Dear vets, please let me know your thoughts
I would like to hear more borderline-natty compounds as well
 
blitzkreigboy said:
So I've been re-thinking this TRT thing...

Every other side looks manageable but the cardiac re-modelling. It's crazy that even 150mg/week of test can cause noticeable left-ventricle hypertrophy over a couple of years and becomes significant enough over 5-10 years to cause an event. Lipids are manageable, Blood pressure is manageable, Blood viscosity is manageable, and hence atherosclerosis...but even if you have all these on point, there's anyways the confounded risk of irreversible structural modification like LVH, fibrosis and cardiomyopathy which'll make you drop dead in the middle of the night. And to make things worse, heart issues run in the family.

The only compounds that i was planning to ever do were test, deca and var but i'm kinda reconsidering even TRT-dose test now.
The drive and the superhuman feeling that i can take over the world is intoxicating but heart failure...what a turn-off

A part of me says to stay "natty" or more like "borderline-natty" until i hit 25/28 and then blast gear but then i want to get shredded before 23......
It wouldn't make sense to be a twig at college and get jacked after graduation right?

I think it'd be better to drop the juicing idea for now but who knows? In a couple days i might post saying that i don't care about dying of heart failure at 30 😂

I've been looking into compounds that don't mess with the heart directly/not as much; enclomiphene, pregnenolone, prohormones, SARMs are some that i've shortlisted. These stuff obviously cannot equal real gear in terms of gains but just for the slight edge over being a virgin/natty/pussy/whatever

Dear vets, please let me know your thoughts
I would like to hear more borderline-natty compounds as well
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You’re thinking smart about the long game. Even mild LVH risk at TRT doses becomes serious over decades, especially with family history, so your concern is valid. Keeping BP, hematocrit, and HR controlled helps but doesn’t fully prevent cardiac remodeling from chronic androgen exposure. @blitzkreigboy This is of course in theory and you're not likely to drop dead lol! :P
but aren't you on cycle already?

If you want that edge without long-term risk, you could try cardarine GW501516 and nutrobal MK-677 for small physique benefits, but stay natural and build your log in the EVO family so we can help you.
 
LevButlerov said:
You’re thinking smart about the long game. Even mild LVH risk at TRT doses becomes serious over decades, especially with family history, so your concern is valid. Keeping BP, hematocrit, and HR controlled helps but doesn’t fully prevent cardiac remodeling from chronic androgen exposure. @blitzkreigboy This is of course in theory and you're not likely to drop dead lol! :P
but aren't you on cycle already?

If you want that edge without long-term risk, you could try cardarine GW501516 and nutrobal MK-677 for small physique benefits, but stay natural and build your log in the EVO family so we can help you.
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Thanks for the heads up @LevButlerov
I've done quite a bit of "research" today and i think i'll run only these compounds until i hit 25:
LGD-3033 (Ligandrol V2)
Enclomiphene
Nutrobal
Cardarine
Dbol(~2 short blasts per year if liver allows)
Anavar(I love this stuff)

These compounds have shown to be have minimal irreversible cardiac impact as far i've read. Expert opinion needed.
So i guess all i can do to push gains now will be to optimize the holy trinity: training, nutrition and food
Hitting arms today 😀
 
blitzkreigboy said:
Thanks for the heads up @LevButlerov
I've done quite a bit of "research" today and i think i'll run only these compounds until i hit 25:
LGD-3033 (Ligandrol V2)
Enclomiphene
Nutrobal
Cardarine
Dbol(~2 short blasts per year if liver allows)
Anavar(I love this stuff)

These compounds have shown to be have minimal irreversible cardiac impact as far i've read. Expert opinion needed.
So i guess all i can do to push gains now will be to optimize the holy trinity: training, nutrition and food
Hitting arms today 😀
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If you're using dbol or anavar, you might as well use testosterone lol :P @blitzkreigboy
If you want lgd4033 its as strong as an oral steroids so same issue.
You wont have any cardiac issues from nutrobal start there, can you get mk677 now?

and besides that where is your diet training no updates still.
 
LevButlerov said:
If you're using dbol or anavar, you might as well use testosterone lol :P @blitzkreigboy
If you want lgd4033 its as strong as an oral steroids so same issue.
You wont have any cardiac issues from nutrobal start there, can you get mk677 now?

and besides that where is your diet training no updates still.
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The cardiac risk with testosterone is what scares me the most 🙁
I've got a bottle of mk677 in hand
 
This is it guys...
I've made a decision to come off testosterone. But before I do so, I want to squeeze as much gains as possible

Here's the plan:
Continue 250mg/week for 12 more weeks And then PCT. Starting HCG today.
Start dbol today, run for 6 weeks...8 if liver allows

Daily Targets:
Calories: ~4,500 kcal/day
Protein: 300–350g
Carbs: 550–600g
Fats: 80–100g

Meal 1 – Breakfast
Oats: 100g
Powdered milk: 3 tbsp
Whole eggs: 6
Banana: 1
Peanut butter: 1 tbsp
~800 kcal, 45g protein, 100g carbs, 25g fats

Meal 2 – Lunch
Chicken breast: 200g
White rice: 2.5 cups cooked
Olive oil: 1 tbsp
Banana : 1
~750 kcal, 55g protein, 90g carbs, 20g fat

Meal 3 – Pre-Workout
Oats: 100g
Powdered milk: 3 tbsp
Banana: 1
Honey: 1 tbsp
~500 kcal, 25g protein, 90g carbs, 5g

Meal 4 – Post-Workout
Whey protein: 2 scoops
Banana: 1
Glucose: 50g
Creatine: 5g
~500 kcal, 50g protein, 80g carbs, 2g fats

Meal 5 – Dinner
Chicken breast: 200g
White rice: 2.5 cups
Olive oil: 1–2 tsp
~700 kcal, 55g protein, 90g carbs, 10g fat

Meal 6 – Before Bed
Casein whey: 1 scoop
Powdered milk: 3–4 tbsp
Peanut butter: 1–2 tbsp
~400 kcal, 35g protein, 25g carbs, 15g fats

I don't care if I put on fat, time to bulk for real
Bloods came in yesterday
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blitzkreigboy said:
This is it guys...
I've made a decision to come off testosterone. But before I do so, I want to squeeze as much gains as possible

Here's the plan:
Continue 250mg/week for 12 more weeks And then PCT. Starting HCG today.
Start dbol today, run for 6 weeks...8 if liver allows

Daily Targets:
Calories: ~4,500 kcal/day
Protein: 300–350g
Carbs: 550–600g
Fats: 80–100g

Meal 1 – Breakfast
Oats: 100g
Powdered milk: 3 tbsp
Whole eggs: 6
Banana: 1
Peanut butter: 1 tbsp
~800 kcal, 45g protein, 100g carbs, 25g fats

Meal 2 – Lunch
Chicken breast: 200g
White rice: 2.5 cups cooked
Olive oil: 1 tbsp
Banana : 1
~750 kcal, 55g protein, 90g carbs, 20g fat

Meal 3 – Pre-Workout
Oats: 100g
Powdered milk: 3 tbsp
Banana: 1
Honey: 1 tbsp
~500 kcal, 25g protein, 90g carbs, 5g

Meal 4 – Post-Workout
Whey protein: 2 scoops
Banana: 1
Glucose: 50g
Creatine: 5g
~500 kcal, 50g protein, 80g carbs, 2g fats

Meal 5 – Dinner
Chicken breast: 200g
White rice: 2.5 cups
Olive oil: 1–2 tsp
~700 kcal, 55g protein, 90g carbs, 10g fat

Meal 6 – Before Bed
Casein whey: 1 scoop
Powdered milk: 3–4 tbsp
Peanut butter: 1–2 tbsp
~400 kcal, 35g protein, 25g carbs, 15g fats

I don't care if I put on fat, time to bulk for real
Bloods came in yesterdayView attachment 135727View attachment 135728View attachment 135729
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wait you already injected testosterone? @blitzkreigboy its not a good idea to just come off imo
better stay on the 12 weeks

the macros look good
 
LevButlerov said:
wait you already injected testosterone? @blitzkreigboy its not a good idea to just come off imo
better stay on the 12 weeks

the macros look good
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I started test on the 4th of September, I believe that I mentioned it in my earlier posts...😅
Yes, I'll stay on it for 12 more weeks while adding the dbol
Because either ways I'll have to run PCT, and the bloods don't look bad right?
Thanks for the heads up on the meal plan @LevButlerov

Things to consider with dbol?
I'll post pics of the mk once I get home
 
blitzkreigboy said:
I started test on the 4th of September, I believe that I mentioned it in my earlier posts...😅
Yes, I'll stay on it for 12 more weeks while adding the dbol
Because either ways I'll have to run PCT, and the bloods don't look bad right?
Thanks for the heads up on the meal plan @LevButlerov

Things to consider with dbol?
I'll post pics of the mk once I get home
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You need to take organ liver support with dbol and test @blitzkreigboy
finish out this cycle and we talk pct after
 
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