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A muscle group would be arms (biceps and triceps together) not a whole day on 1 small muscle. How many actual cycles have you ran before?
About 5 cycles but over 15 years my last was probably 4 years ago before this one.
Okay so you've done afew then, you could always have just started low with abit of test and little bit of deca if that's what you wanted to use and just titrate up if everything was going smooth and bloods were good
True, the oils have been good to me except I let the estrogen get out of hand (to much test) and have struggled to level out. Keeps crashing and spiking.
The main issue was the Var though, my tendons are minced from the fast strength increase and it pretty much prevented me from training anything substantially for the entire second half of the cycle. Next time I am going zero orals.
The 1st half of the cycle was amazing, bloods good and I felt great. Then it all blew up real quick and I been in damage control since.
Maybe next time start low with no orals and take it slow. Also maybe run a simple PPL split
Yeah mate you are right, PPL split it is.
What do you think about the diet I am on. I am carnivore and haven't had carbs in years due to health shit thats fully healed when I eat just animal products, you think thats a disadvantage?
Bro, I would have pushed through the side effects.
That shit don't bother me, just drink some Hooch and pass out and you'll feel better in the morning.
That shit don't bother me, just drink some Hooch and pass out and you'll feel better in the morning.
100% agree with stopping. These are some serious side effects. You were experiencing
I really think professionals could tolerate higher doses of steroids.
That's one. Big reason why they are Pros.
That's one. Big reason why they are Pros.
My 2c bro, the stack is fine but where some issues were introduced is - first cycle should have been focused on seeing how your body responds to testosterone. Seeing how you respond to aromatization and learn the best way to control e2 that suits your body's response. Nandrolone in first cycle, 19nors sides are tricky regardless as individual response varies significantly from person to person and deca being such a long ester is always going to problematic trying to cut it out if and when sides show up. Npp would have been a better option for your first run with Nandrolone as when problems come about you could have cut it a lot quicker. Last one is the var, not sure if you had bloods dont prior and seen where your organ health way at but this always a must. Biggest thing brother is you introduced 3 variables, larger dose test/19nor/oral, on a first run so was will always be an issue seeing which compound caused you the drama or if they all contributed. Heal up and rest the body come back and try just a higher test cycle maybe? Learn how much training your body can handle whilst getting enough recovery. Try different nutritional approaches in the meantime to see your bodies response. Don't give up though bro just reset, readjust and try again. All the best legend
Good call listening to your body man. Time to recover now.
@aussie.muncher if you want to redo the whole thing you'd have to start bro
i would start TRT and push hard again
