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Approved Log Cycle - Training - Diet - Supplement Log

aussie.muncher said:
Thanks, I am on the bome broth, I drink 2 cups per day. Peptides in Australia are very difficult to get, I wonder if there are any reputable sources for them in this forum. Will check it out asap.
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@aussie.muncher I think a lot of Aussie suppliers carry peptides. Check the Aussie sub?
 
Anavar pumps are well known. Heck, both myself and Stevesmi have spoken about it on the shows. What dose was you using?
 
aussie.muncher said:

Forum Log Update – Week 6 Progress​

Time for another update. This cycle has been a bit of a rollercoaster—some solid gains but also a lot of unexpected and pretty chronic issues that I’ve had to troubleshoot along the way. Still pushing forward, but it's been a learning experience for sure, and I feel relatively unwell as I write this.

Body Measurements Update​

Since my last update, here’s where I stand:

  • Weight: 77kg (+2kg)
  • Neck: 40cm (no change)
  • Shoulders: 124cm (-1cm)
  • Chest: 105.5cm (-2cm)
  • Biceps (flexed): L: 36.5cm (-0.5cm), R: 37cm (-0.4cm)
  • Forearms (relaxed): L: 29.5cm (+0.7cm), R: 29.5cm (+0.5cm)
  • Waist (at navel): 97.5cm (+1.5cm)
  • Hips (widest part): 98cm (-0.3cm)
  • Thighs (flexed): L: 57cm (-0.5cm), R: 57cm (-0.5cm)
  • Calves (relaxed): L: 37.5cm (no change), R: 38.5cm (no change)

Strength & Training​

This is where things have taken a hit. Strength hasn't really progressed like I expected—not because of lack of effort, but because of all the side effects I’ve been dealing with.

The biggest issue? Insane pumps that border on painful. My calves and forearms have been so tight after training that I physically couldn’t straighten my legs or fully extend my arms. It’s like my muscles are going to rip out of my skin. The pumps last for a while post-training but eventually fade.

On top of that, fatigue and swelling have started creeping back in due to high estrogen levels, which has made training feel way harder than it should.

Mostly stuck to my usual training plan, but physically at a reduced rate:

  • Monday – Biceps
  • Tuesday – Triceps
  • Wednesday – Back
  • Thursday – Chest
  • Friday – Shoulders
  • Extra Work: wrist roller, and light leg work daily, had to scrap fasted walks completely for now, my calves and achilies can not handle it.

Side Effects & Solutions So Far​

Feb 16 – Severe Pumps Started​

  • Started getting crazy pumps in my calves and forearms during workouts.
  • Calves were locking up so tight I couldn't straighten my legs post-workout.
Fix:

  • Added Lite Salt for potassium.
  • Increased Celtic Sea Salt and water intake.
  • Dropped Anavar from 60mg to 40mg.
Helped somewhat make training possible but has not cleared up the issue at all.

Feb 24 – Achilles & Knee Pain Worsening​

  • Achilles tendon pain started getting worse—first just post-walks, then all day long.
  • Back of knees swollen, tight, and sore.
Fix:

  • Wearing compression sleeves on knees.
  • Gentle stretching and massage on Achilles.
  • Added Collagen and Vitamin C for tendon health.
  • Completely eliminated walking, still not doing them

Feb 26 – Liver Pain & Digestive Issues​

  • Liver pain under right rib started flaring up randomly.
  • Diarrhea had been ongoing but got worse.
  • Shortness of breath and tight chest for a couple of days.
Fix:

  • Lowered Anavar from 40mg to 20mg temp.
  • Took Activated Charcoal to absorb toxins.
  • This actually made a big difference, and the pain subsided within an hour, but i still deal wth it daily.

March 3 – Estrogen Symptoms Hit Hard​

  • Swelling in hands, joints, and ankles.
  • Hard, sore lump under left nipple.
  • Fatigue coming back.
  • Aches and general feeling of inflammation.
Fix:

  • Started Aromasin 12.5mg ED, but this didn't work.
  • Today, I upped it to 3 days of 25mg ED to bring estrogen down fast, then taper back to EOD dosing, ill see how it goes, hope it works.

March 5 TODAY – Liver Pain & Achilles Tendon at Its Worst​

  • Woke up feeling off, weak, and a bit dizzy.
  • Liver pain was sharper than before.
  • Achilles so inflamed that walking normally was painful.
Fix:

  • Dropping Anavar to 20mg for the final 11 days or stopping completely if needed.
  • Upping collagen and Vitamin C intake.
  • Keeping hydration and electrolytes in check.
  • Using compression sleeves 24/7 for knee support.

Current Challenges & Next Steps​

Right now, the biggest issues are:

  1. High Estrogen – Still holding too much water and dealing with swelling.
  2. Liver Stress – Anavar may have to go entirely if pain persists.
  3. Achilles Tendon Pain – Makes it hard to walk, let alone train properly.

What I’m Doing About It:​

  • Aromasin 25mg ED for 3 days, then back to 12.5mg EOD.
  • Keeping Anavar at 20mg max, might stop entirely if liver doesn't improve.
  • Compression sleeves and tendon rehab to avoid long-term Achilles damage.
  • Keeping diet and electrolytes locked in.

Final Thoughts​

The weight gain (+2kg) is solid, but I expected more strength progression. Side effects have slowed me down, but I’m working through them, however I will say they have been terrible and actually devastating to my training and overall health.

I’ll see how things go after a few days of higher Aromasin and lower Anavar. If things improve, I can finish strong. If not, I’ll pull Anavar early and focus on getting back to peak performance if I can.

Thanks
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@aussie.muncher for the pumps I’m not sure if you are taking the anavar all at once but you may split it into 2 doses that should help out
 
ballin2504 said:
@aussie.muncher for the pumps I’m not sure if you are taking the anavar all at once but you may split it into 2 doses that should help out
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Thanks man, I was splitting them throughout the day morning, middle, and evening, than morning and evening and now I am only dosing 20mg per morning and the pumps are down but so is strength and all the benifits of Var unfortunately
 
aussie.muncher said:

Forum Log Update – Week 6 Progress​

Time for another update. This cycle has been a bit of a rollercoaster—some solid gains but also a lot of unexpected and pretty chronic issues that I’ve had to troubleshoot along the way. Still pushing forward, but it's been a learning experience for sure, and I feel relatively unwell as I write this.

Body Measurements Update​

Since my last update, here’s where I stand:

  • Weight: 77kg (+2kg)
  • Neck: 40cm (no change)
  • Shoulders: 124cm (-1cm)
  • Chest: 105.5cm (-2cm)
  • Biceps (flexed): L: 36.5cm (-0.5cm), R: 37cm (-0.4cm)
  • Forearms (relaxed): L: 29.5cm (+0.7cm), R: 29.5cm (+0.5cm)
  • Waist (at navel): 97.5cm (+1.5cm)
  • Hips (widest part): 98cm (-0.3cm)
  • Thighs (flexed): L: 57cm (-0.5cm), R: 57cm (-0.5cm)
  • Calves (relaxed): L: 37.5cm (no change), R: 38.5cm (no change)

Strength & Training​

This is where things have taken a hit. Strength hasn't really progressed like I expected—not because of lack of effort, but because of all the side effects I’ve been dealing with.

The biggest issue? Insane pumps that border on painful. My calves and forearms have been so tight after training that I physically couldn’t straighten my legs or fully extend my arms. It’s like my muscles are going to rip out of my skin. The pumps last for a while post-training but eventually fade.

On top of that, fatigue and swelling have started creeping back in due to high estrogen levels, which has made training feel way harder than it should.

Mostly stuck to my usual training plan, but physically at a reduced rate:

  • Monday – Biceps
  • Tuesday – Triceps
  • Wednesday – Back
  • Thursday – Chest
  • Friday – Shoulders
  • Extra Work: wrist roller, and light leg work daily, had to scrap fasted walks completely for now, my calves and achilies can not handle it.

Side Effects & Solutions So Far​

Feb 16 – Severe Pumps Started​

  • Started getting crazy pumps in my calves and forearms during workouts.
  • Calves were locking up so tight I couldn't straighten my legs post-workout.
Fix:

  • Added Lite Salt for potassium.
  • Increased Celtic Sea Salt and water intake.
  • Dropped Anavar from 60mg to 40mg.
Helped somewhat make training possible but has not cleared up the issue at all.

Feb 24 – Achilles & Knee Pain Worsening​

  • Achilles tendon pain started getting worse—first just post-walks, then all day long.
  • Back of knees swollen, tight, and sore.
Fix:

  • Wearing compression sleeves on knees.
  • Gentle stretching and massage on Achilles.
  • Added Collagen and Vitamin C for tendon health.
  • Completely eliminated walking, still not doing them

Feb 26 – Liver Pain & Digestive Issues​

  • Liver pain under right rib started flaring up randomly.
  • Diarrhea had been ongoing but got worse.
  • Shortness of breath and tight chest for a couple of days.
Fix:

  • Lowered Anavar from 40mg to 20mg temp.
  • Took Activated Charcoal to absorb toxins.
  • This actually made a big difference, and the pain subsided within an hour, but i still deal wth it daily.

March 3 – Estrogen Symptoms Hit Hard​

  • Swelling in hands, joints, and ankles.
  • Hard, sore lump under left nipple.
  • Fatigue coming back.
  • Aches and general feeling of inflammation.
Fix:

  • Started Aromasin 12.5mg ED, but this didn't work.
  • Today, I upped it to 3 days of 25mg ED to bring estrogen down fast, then taper back to EOD dosing, ill see how it goes, hope it works.

March 5 TODAY – Liver Pain & Achilles Tendon at Its Worst​

  • Woke up feeling off, weak, and a bit dizzy.
  • Liver pain was sharper than before.
  • Achilles so inflamed that walking normally was painful.
Fix:

  • Dropping Anavar to 20mg for the final 11 days or stopping completely if needed.
  • Upping collagen and Vitamin C intake.
  • Keeping hydration and electrolytes in check.
  • Using compression sleeves 24/7 for knee support.

Current Challenges & Next Steps​

Right now, the biggest issues are:

  1. High Estrogen – Still holding too much water and dealing with swelling.
  2. Liver Stress – Anavar may have to go entirely if pain persists.
  3. Achilles Tendon Pain – Makes it hard to walk, let alone train properly.

What I’m Doing About It:​

  • Aromasin 25mg ED for 3 days, then back to 12.5mg EOD.
  • Keeping Anavar at 20mg max, might stop entirely if liver doesn't improve.
  • Compression sleeves and tendon rehab to avoid long-term Achilles damage.
  • Keeping diet and electrolytes locked in.

Final Thoughts​

The weight gain (+2kg) is solid, but I expected more strength progression. Side effects have slowed me down, but I’m working through them, however I will say they have been terrible and actually devastating to my training and overall health.

I’ll see how things go after a few days of higher Aromasin and lower Anavar. If things improve, I can finish strong. If not, I’ll pull Anavar early and focus on getting back to peak performance if I can.

Thanks
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@aussie.muncher look into peptides for your knee bro!
 

Forum Log Update – Ending the Cycle 3 Week Early​


Hey guys,
Sorry I’ve been MIA for a little while. Honestly, I just haven’t felt like checking in — the side effects really got the better of me, and I was too disheartened by how things were going. I didn’t want to come in here with negativity, but now that I’ve had a bit of time to think, I wanted to give you all a proper update.


Latest Measurements (April 04)​


Here’s where I landed on my last check-in:


  • Weight: 75kg
  • Neck: 39.5cm
  • Shoulders: 122.5cm
  • Chest: 107cm
  • Biceps (L/R): 36.4cm / 37cm
  • Forearms (L/R): 29cm / 29cm
  • Waist: 97cm
  • Hips: 98.5cm
  • Thighs (L/R): 54.5cm / 55cm
  • Calves (L/R): 38cm / 38cm

Compared to my last update on March 17, it’s pretty clear things have started moving in the wrong direction, actually I am smaller than when I started this cycle. Weight is down 2kg, thighs and shoulders shrunk slightly, and overall tightness and strength just haven’t been there. Some of this is water loss, some likely inflammation dropping — but overall, I’ve felt like I’ve been fighting my own body every step of the way.



Side Effects Since Last Update​


This is where the cycle fell apart for me. I’ve had an absolute onslaught of side effects since the last post:


  • Severe injection site inflammation – One glute got so red, hot, and swollen I was seriously worried it was turning into an abscess. I am seeing a Dr today as I believe I need antibiotics asap. This is not from bad practice but a sterile abscess in my opinion, likely a reaction to the oil.
  • Recurring liver pain – Dull to sharp discomfort under my right rib.
  • Chronic Achilles tendon pain – I can barely walk properly without aggravating the tendon-calf junction. Can’t even go up on my toes anymore and haven't been able to train legs in over a month.
  • Swelling in my legs, hands, and ankles – Constant water retention that made my joints ache and fingers feel puffy every morning.
  • Persistent diarrhea – Daily since the start of the cycle. Nothing resolved it.
  • Chest tightness and shortness of breath – Came and went, likely tied to liver or systemic stress.
  • Severe fatigue, weakness in arms – Some days I felt like I couldn’t lift at all, today I could barely drive.
  • Estrogen rollercoaster – Aromasin helped, but the sore lump under my left nipple never really shrank, and estrogen rebound made me feel awful whenever I adjusted dosing.
  • Hot flushes, shivers – Like flu symptoms some days, totally random, I think this is abscess-related.
  • Indigestion and heartburn – Constantly relying on antacids to get through the day, lessened after removing the Anavar early but still remained overall.

I think the real breaking point was when I realised I was still getting weaker — not stronger — and I couldn’t even stick to my training routine because of how wrecked I felt and the risk of injury to my tendons.



Honest Thoughts​


The truth is: the gear does what it’s meant to do. I don’t blame the compounds. The strength gains I should have gotten were there on paper — my body just rejected it this time. Whether it’s genetics, stress, gut issues, or something else, I’m clearly not tolerating these levels anymore.


I had big plans for this cycle, but the side effects have been too severe and too constant, and my actual results just don’t justify continuing. I’ve decided to end the cycle early and go back to basic TRT — 1ml Test E per week and cut all other compounds effective immediately.



The Plan Now​


I’m going into full recovery mode for the next 3 months. I’ll focus on:


  • Healing my liver and gut
  • Rebuilding tendon health (Achilles, knees)
  • Stabilising hormones
  • Getting back to my regular energy levels and clean diet
  • Resetting physically and mentally


Final Note​


To anyone reading — don’t take this as a warning against using gear. It works, and for many people it works great. But listen to your body. If your health starts to tank, no gains are worth it. I’ve pushed through some hard cycles in the past, but this one broke me.


Thanks to everyone who’s followed along. Sorry to disappoint, this cycle started off amazing, I felt superhuman, but then I just crumbled. I just can not wait to start feeling human again.
 
aussie.muncher said:

Forum Log Update – Ending the Cycle 3 Week Early​


Hey guys,
Sorry I’ve been MIA for a little while. Honestly, I just haven’t felt like checking in — the side effects really got the better of me, and I was too disheartened by how things were going. I didn’t want to come in here with negativity, but now that I’ve had a bit of time to think, I wanted to give you all a proper update.


Latest Measurements (April 04)​


Here’s where I landed on my last check-in:


  • Weight: 75kg
  • Neck: 39.5cm
  • Shoulders: 122.5cm
  • Chest: 107cm
  • Biceps (L/R): 36.4cm / 37cm
  • Forearms (L/R): 29cm / 29cm
  • Waist: 97cm
  • Hips: 98.5cm
  • Thighs (L/R): 54.5cm / 55cm
  • Calves (L/R): 38cm / 38cm

Compared to my last update on March 17, it’s pretty clear things have started moving in the wrong direction, actually I am smaller than when I started this cycle. Weight is down 2kg, thighs and shoulders shrunk slightly, and overall tightness and strength just haven’t been there. Some of this is water loss, some likely inflammation dropping — but overall, I’ve felt like I’ve been fighting my own body every step of the way.



Side Effects Since Last Update​


This is where the cycle fell apart for me. I’ve had an absolute onslaught of side effects since the last post:


  • Severe injection site inflammation – One glute got so red, hot, and swollen I was seriously worried it was turning into an abscess. I am seeing a Dr today as I believe I need antibiotics asap. This is not from bad practice but a sterile abscess in my opinion, likely a reaction to the oil.
  • Recurring liver pain – Dull to sharp discomfort under my right rib.
  • Chronic Achilles tendon pain – I can barely walk properly without aggravating the tendon-calf junction. Can’t even go up on my toes anymore and haven't been able to train legs in over a month.
  • Swelling in my legs, hands, and ankles – Constant water retention that made my joints ache and fingers feel puffy every morning.
  • Persistent diarrhea – Daily since the start of the cycle. Nothing resolved it.
  • Chest tightness and shortness of breath – Came and went, likely tied to liver or systemic stress.
  • Severe fatigue, weakness in arms – Some days I felt like I couldn’t lift at all, today I could barely drive.
  • Estrogen rollercoaster – Aromasin helped, but the sore lump under my left nipple never really shrank, and estrogen rebound made me feel awful whenever I adjusted dosing.
  • Hot flushes, shivers – Like flu symptoms some days, totally random, I think this is abscess-related.
  • Indigestion and heartburn – Constantly relying on antacids to get through the day, lessened after removing the Anavar early but still remained overall.

I think the real breaking point was when I realised I was still getting weaker — not stronger — and I couldn’t even stick to my training routine because of how wrecked I felt and the risk of injury to my tendons.



Honest Thoughts​


The truth is: the gear does what it’s meant to do. I don’t blame the compounds. The strength gains I should have gotten were there on paper — my body just rejected it this time. Whether it’s genetics, stress, gut issues, or something else, I’m clearly not tolerating these levels anymore.


I had big plans for this cycle, but the side effects have been too severe and too constant, and my actual results just don’t justify continuing. I’ve decided to end the cycle early and go back to basic TRT — 1ml Test E per week and cut all other compounds effective immediately.



The Plan Now​


I’m going into full recovery mode for the next 3 months. I’ll focus on:


  • Healing my liver and gut
  • Rebuilding tendon health (Achilles, knees)
  • Stabilising hormones
  • Getting back to my regular energy levels and clean diet
  • Resetting physically and mentally


Final Note​


To anyone reading — don’t take this as a warning against using gear. It works, and for many people it works great. But listen to your body. If your health starts to tank, no gains are worth it. I’ve pushed through some hard cycles in the past, but this one broke me.


Thanks to everyone who’s followed along. Sorry to disappoint, this cycle started off amazing, I felt superhuman, but then I just crumbled. I just can not wait to start feeling human again.
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@aussie.muncher sorry to hear this bro but im not surprised at this
your diet and training was off, your gear use was off, you didnt plan this right
the sides can be healed but not with this approach
i hope you can come back and we can replan and reLOG properly with the EVO family
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
@aussie.muncher sorry to hear this bro but im not surprised at this
your diet and training was off, your gear use was off, you didnt plan this right
the sides can be healed but not with this approach
i hope you can come back and we can replan and reLOG properly with the EVO family
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What exactly was off about it all mate?
For a newby cycle I planned as much as I possibly could to my knoand research and nobody mentioned anything until now. So I am genuinely interested in precisely what you would have done differently?

Also any peptides you might suggest to aid recovery, I am in pretty bad shape so need the advantage.
 
aussie.muncher said:
What exactly was off about it all mate?
For a newby cycle I planned as much as I possibly could to my knoand research and nobody mentioned anything until now. So I am genuinely interested in precisely what you would have done differently?

Also any peptides you might suggest to aid recovery, I am in pretty bad shape so need the advantage.
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straight with u bro planning was off @aussie.muncher
Zoooo said:
Over a gram of gear as a newbie cycle and that training setup was low-key really bad
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here @Zoooo said it best
food off, training off, and updates off and gear too much
 
You are the man for sure great update as usual
you are listening to your body which is good to hear
 
aussie.muncher said:
Perfect man but whats your actual advice for alternatives? I wish someone had mentioned this on my 1st post I would have 100% made adjustments. I am here to learn, I know some blokes won't listen but Im not one of them.
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I did tell you how to fix up the training but you didn't change it, you don't need a whole session for biceps and a whole session for triceps that's just silly. And if your a newbie you only need about half that amount of gear
 
Zoooo said:
I did tell you how to fix up the training but you didn't change it, you don't need a whole session for biceps and a whole session for triceps that's just silly. And if your a newbie you only need about half that amount of gear
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Oh yes I recall. I used to train 2 muscle groups a day as you suggested but about 2 years ago I switched to one and have seen much better results thats why I stuck with it but I will look at changing this up next round.
I did switch my days around as you suggested though.

So you think the stack was good but I was dosing to high?
 
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