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aussie.muncher

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12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

I am starting this log to track my 12-week cycle progress, document changes in size, strength, and energy levels, and optimize my approach based on results. My goal is to gain 8-10kg of lean muscle while minimizing fat gain and improving overall recovery and energy.

I will update this log weekly with weight changes, strength improvements, and overall well-being.

Special shout out to @Raptor Labs for supplying the gear used in this cycle, I will be 100% running his product and nothing else.

Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar:
    • Weeks 1-2: 50mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 10mg PM)
    • Weeks 3-12: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1-hour fasted morning walk
  • Forearm roller x 3
  • Light leg work (leg extensions, toe ups, squats)

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1.5-hour boxing and sparring session

Wednesday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Thursday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3

Friday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

First Update Coming Soon​

I will be tracking progress every week with updates on strength, weight changes, and how I feel throughout the cycle.

If you have any feedback or suggestions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
 
After week one I have noticed a clear increase in strength and stamina.
When I train I always seem to have just a little more, then when that's depleted a little more, and so on.

Also, I have noticed a decrease in my fatigue, this shit has plagued me for years and taken the fire right out of my heart, most days I barely get by but push through for the family, its early days but I think the TRT I was on was not sufficient and I could have been suffering all this time unnecessarily, time will tell but I have hope.

No other clear changes to report, see you all in a week!
 
aussie.muncher said:

12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

I am starting this log to track my 12-week cycle progress, document changes in size, strength, and energy levels, and optimize my approach based on results. My goal is to gain 8-10kg of lean muscle while minimizing fat gain and improving overall recovery and energy.

I will update this log weekly with weight changes, strength improvements, and overall well-being.

Special shout out to @Raptor Labs for supplying the gear used in this cycle, I will be 100% running his product and nothing else.

Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar:
    • Weeks 1-2: 50mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 10mg PM)
    • Weeks 3-12: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1-hour fasted morning walk
  • Forearm roller x 3
  • Light leg work (leg extensions, toe ups, squats)

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1.5-hour boxing and sparring session

Wednesday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Thursday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3

Friday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

First Update Coming Soon​

I will be tracking progress every week with updates on strength, weight changes, and how I feel throughout the cycle.

If you have any feedback or suggestions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
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@aussie.muncher
Welcome to EVO!
Great start to your log.
Only thing I would change is the anavar. Not a great idea to run orals for 12 weeks. Personally I would introduce it weeks 7-12 when lifts begin to stall.
 
s.gentz said:
@aussie.muncher
Welcome to EVO!
Great start to your log.
Only thing I would change is the anavar. Not a great idea to run orals for 12 weeks. Personally I would introduce it weeks 7-12 when lifts begin to stall.
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Oh dam you are right 12 weeks is way to long.
I've already been on it for a week and love the strength gains, don't want to loose them haha.
What do you think about running it weeks 1-2 then again weeks 7-12?
I have no idea if this is even an effective way to do it but would defo appreciate your feedback.
 
aussie.muncher said:
Oh dam you are right 12 weeks is way to long.
I've already been on it for a week and love the strength gains, don't want to loose them haha.
What do you think about running it weeks 1-2 then again weeks 7-12?
I have no idea if this is even an effective way to do it but would defo appreciate your feedback.
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You’re already running it. May as well just run it for 6 weeks now. Wouldn’t bother running it again later. Too rough on the lipids.
 
aussie.muncher said:
Got it, but in future cycles you would recommend 2nd half of the cycle not 1st.

Thanks man appreciate the advice.
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I like using an oral later in a build cycle. Lifts will
Usually begin to stall and it gives you the boost to push through.
If I want something in the beginning I will usually just run short ester test alongside the reg test to bring levels up faster. I’ve done this with deca cycles as well. Ran npp for the first couple weeks to get blood levels up.
 
Killer start to this log mate! Nice a professionally detailed which is perfect!

aussie.muncher said:

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
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Blood test might not show the reasons behind this my friend and I could be wrong also myself. But reading through your first post I noticed a few things.

Brother sound like your just mentally exhausted, and that ultimately effecting you physical levels. Single father of 4 kids is no joke! Financial pressure to maintain a lifestyle for you kids and yourself whilst having all the duties of 2 parents and being both mentally present for all areas takes its toll. Life has just weighed down on you and complete respect for still getting it all done!! Having a log is a good thing brother it’s will help motivate you to push yourself physically and mentally to become a stronger version of yourself, this helps in all areas of life!

A busy single father of 4 and still navigating life to make it happen and improve yourself. Genuinely can’t have anything else but serious respect for that. Looking forward to following along your journey, best of luck brother!!
 
Not a fan of the training routine setup. A whole day dedicated to biceps and a whole day to triceps? Training 15 sets of triceps the day before chest then the day after that is shoulders. Also no leg training? Not ideal at all imo
 
aussie.muncher said:

12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

I am starting this log to track my 12-week cycle progress, document changes in size, strength, and energy levels, and optimize my approach based on results. My goal is to gain 8-10kg of lean muscle while minimizing fat gain and improving overall recovery and energy.

I will update this log weekly with weight changes, strength improvements, and overall well-being.

Special shout out to @Raptor Labs for supplying the gear used in this cycle, I will be 100% running his product and nothing else.

Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar:
    • Weeks 1-2: 50mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 10mg PM)
    • Weeks 3-12: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1-hour fasted morning walk
  • Forearm roller x 3
  • Light leg work (leg extensions, toe ups, squats)

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1.5-hour boxing and sparring session

Wednesday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Thursday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3

Friday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

First Update Coming Soon​

I will be tracking progress every week with updates on strength, weight changes, and how I feel throughout the cycle.

If you have any feedback or suggestions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
Click to expand...

aussie.muncher said:
After week one I have noticed a clear increase in strength and stamina.
When I train I always seem to have just a little more, then when that's depleted a little more, and so on.

Also, I have noticed a decrease in my fatigue, this shit has plagued me for years and taken the fire right out of my heart, most days I barely get by but push through for the family, its early days but I think the TRT I was on was not sufficient and I could have been suffering all this time unnecessarily, time will tell but I have hope.

No other clear changes to report, see you all in a week!
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@aussie.muncher this is a great start bro ;) happy to have you sharing with the EVO family and you're now a part of our family

I would start by sharing more current pics with face blurred.
I also dont think long term anavar use is necessary in your case as well.

Please share more day to day information with us.

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share foods and meals and when you eat them, macros would be good
Training, please share actual exercises reps sets and weights, as you go especially get stronger
cardio how much do you do? when etc
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

supplements
what digestive supps you use?
digestive enzymes?
multis?
probiotics?
psyllium husk?

pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred (every 1-2 weeks)
pics of your meals as you go
pics of your training as you go
pics of your supps
pics of your gear

eBooks
download our eBooks and learn more about cycling:
https://irongorillas.com

Podcast
are you listening to our podcast? if not, you should:
https://www.evolutionary.org/podcasts/

thank you and share more :)
 
Allupfromhere said:
Killer start to this log mate! Nice a professionally detailed which is perfect!



Blood test might not show the reasons behind this my friend and I could be wrong also myself. But reading through your first post I noticed a few things.

Brother sound like your just mentally exhausted, and that ultimately effecting you physical levels. Single father of 4 kids is no joke! Financial pressure to maintain a lifestyle for you kids and yourself whilst having all the duties of 2 parents and being both mentally present for all areas takes its toll. Life has just weighed down on you and complete respect for still getting it all done!! Having a log is a good thing brother it’s will help motivate you to push yourself physically and mentally to become a stronger version of yourself, this helps in all areas of life!

A busy single father of 4 and still navigating life to make it happen and improve yourself. Genuinely can’t have anything else but serious respect for that. Looking forward to following along your journey, best of luck brother!!
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Thanks dude, massive appreciation man.
You are right I am mentally exhausted and thats probably part of it however the fatigue is so biological it comes on so heavy almost like narcolepsy and instant I can't rule out a biological cause.

Whats more frustrating is knowing something is very wrong with the picture but all the medical doctors saying there is not.

I will say though since being on Teste the fatigue has lessened substantially, I have hope.
 
Zoooo said:
Not a fan of the training routine setup. A whole day dedicated to biceps and a whole day to triceps? Training 15 sets of triceps the day before chest then the day after that is shoulders. Also no leg training? Not ideal at all imo
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Suggestions?

I do one muscle group a day because as you see in my health issues section fatigue is a problem for me and if I train 2 groups the second group only gets a tiny portion of my energy so id rather give 100% to one group. Also in the same section I mentioned knee problems so I doo legs everyday at lighter weight my knees can not tolerate heavy lifts.

Happy to hear your suggestions though.
 
aussie.muncher said:
Suggestions?

I do one muscle group a day because as you see in my health issues section fatigue is a problem for me and if I train 2 groups the second group only gets a tiny portion of my energy so id rather give 100% to one group. Also in the same section I mentioned knee problems so I doo legs everyday at lighter weight my knees can not tolerate heavy lifts.

Happy to hear your suggestions though.
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Well you can definitely put triceps and biceps together, you don't need 15 sets of each. Maybe 4 of each. Also definately wouldn't be training them the day before chest as they will be so fatigued that your chest workout will suffer big time. Chest - back - shoulders - arms - light legs in that order or similar.
 

UPDATED - 12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

Note: I will upload a before and after picture at the end of the log.

Changes Made - Based on some feedback received​

  • Anavar is now only for the first 6 weeks instead of 12.
  • Training schedule adjusted:
    • Back moved to Wednesday (from Friday)
    • Chest moved to Thursday (from Wednesday)
    • Shoulders moved to Friday (from Thursday)
See full description with changes below!


Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled in steroids before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar (First 6 Weeks Only):
    • Weeks 1-6: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3

Wednesday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3

Thursday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Friday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

​

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

​

 
bro 2 quick questions.

1. years served in the clink (i see the prison tats where you got branded)
2. # of lot lizards you bang per month
 
Nice job being open about your training that you take the weekends off. A lot of people will claim, they still trained when they didn't.
 
What do you usually do on the weekends?

If you're not training.?
 
You can make your own protein bars out of nuts fruit and things like almond butter..

That would be a good snack if you need something.
 
, definitely put up some pictures if you do a brisket.
I like that pulled beef, it tastes really good.
 
You are a true champion, man.

I like the homemade bone broth and I like the eggs that you're eating.
 
ROIDDERS said:
With the eggs does boiling them ever give you gas or are you okay with digesting them?
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I have been eating carnivore for over a year now so that means I smash stupid amounts of eggs they are lifeforce truly. In the beginning, I had gas and all kinds of unpleasant things happened but my body leveled out and I don't even get BO anymore, zero need for deodorant, and no gas, all is good.
 
aussie.muncher said:
I have been eating carnivore for over a year now so that means I smash stupid amounts of eggs they are lifeforce truly. In the beginning, I had gas and all kinds of unpleasant things happened but my body leveled out and I don't even get BO anymore, zero need for deodorant, and no gas, all is good.
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carnivore is key to getting shredded bro ;) i did lion steak only for years
you got some pics of food?
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
carnivore is key to getting shredded bro ;) i did lion steak only for years
you got some pics of food?
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Yep just not fresh I cook huge once a fortnight and freeze everything. My meals are quite boring, nothing special just what my body requires. I am very militant im my process so food and pics wise this is going to be a boring log hahaha since I eat religiously and training religiously precisely whats in the beginning of my log, everyday is the same, regimented and structured exactly how I like it, boring but effective.

In saying that next cook up I will take pics of all my meals and how I pack them all and freeze them.
 
Very strange day today.
Since I started the cycle I have been feeling great, very little fatigue, and very strong but today I had some brain fog that escalated to stomach pain like extreme hunger. After a while a very tight chest, goosebumps, weakness, blurred vision, generally uncoordinated and queasy in the stomach.
I don't know if it has anything to do with the cycle but I do not generally feel like this so I thought I would log it.
 
aussie.muncher said:

12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

I am starting this log to track my 12-week cycle progress, document changes in size, strength, and energy levels, and optimize my approach based on results. My goal is to gain 8-10kg of lean muscle while minimizing fat gain and improving overall recovery and energy.

I will update this log weekly with weight changes, strength improvements, and overall well-being.

Special shout out to @Raptor Labs for supplying the gear used in this cycle, I will be 100% running his product and nothing else.

Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar:
    • Weeks 1-2: 50mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 10mg PM)
    • Weeks 3-12: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1-hour fasted morning walk
  • Forearm roller x 3
  • Light leg work (leg extensions, toe ups, squats)

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1.5-hour boxing and sparring session

Wednesday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Thursday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3

Friday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

First Update Coming Soon​

I will be tracking progress every week with updates on strength, weight changes, and how I feel throughout the cycle.

If you have any feedback or suggestions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
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@aussie.muncher awesome log right here! Will be following along!
 
aussie.muncher said:
Very strange day today.
Since I started the cycle I have been feeling great, very little fatigue, and very strong but today I had some brain fog that escalated to stomach pain like extreme hunger. After a while a very tight chest, goosebumps, weakness, blurred vision, generally uncoordinated and queasy in the stomach.
I don't know if it has anything to do with the cycle but I do not generally feel like this so I thought I would log it.
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I like to log everything like this bro, just so if i come across strangest in my body I can see what I was doing leading up to that point and check if anything relates.
 
aussie.muncher said:

12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​

Introduction ​

I am starting this log to track my 12-week cycle progress, document changes in size, strength, and energy levels, and optimize my approach based on results. My goal is to gain 8-10kg of lean muscle while minimizing fat gain and improving overall recovery and energy.

I will update this log weekly with weight changes, strength improvements, and overall well-being.

Special shout out to @Raptor Labs for supplying the gear used in this cycle, I will be 100% running his product and nothing else.

Starting Physical Stats (Baseline Measurements)​

  • Age: 41
  • Height: 165 cm
  • Weight: 74 kg
  • Body Fat %: Unknown
  • Neck: 39 cm
  • Shoulders (circumference): 122 cm
  • Chest (around nipples): 106.5 cm
  • Biceps (flexed): Left - 36 cm, Right - 37 cm
  • Forearms (relaxed): Left - 29 cm, Right - 29 cm
  • Waist (at navel): 95.9 cm
  • Hips (widest part): 96.8 cm
  • Thighs (flexed): Left - 54.4 cm, Right - 55 cm
  • Calves (relaxed): Left - 37.5 cm, Right - 38.1 cm

Sleep​

  • I get 6-8 hours of sleep per night.
  • I naturally sleep late after 1 AM and wake up late, but this pattern works best for me.
  • I always ensure at least 6 hours per night, which I find sufficient for my recovery.

Training Experience​

  • Training History: On and off for 10 years.
  • Serious Training: Consistently 5 days a week for the past 3 years.

Gym Setup​

  • I have a home gym with weights that I utilize for all my workouts.
  • As a single father with full custody of 4 kids, I cannot afford a gym membership, but I have most of the equipment needed to train effectively.

Cycle History​

  • I have dabbled before but never committed to a fully structured cycle until now.

12-Week Steroid Cycle​

Injectables​

  • Testosterone Enanthate: 500mg per week (250mg Monday & Thursday)
  • Deca Durabolin: 300mg per week (150mg Monday & Thursday)
    • Injection Volume: Test E (1ml), Deca (0.75ml) per shot
    • Needle Used: 25G x 1 inch (25mm) for glute injections

Orals​

  • Anavar:
    • Weeks 1-2: 50mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 10mg PM)
    • Weeks 3-12: 60mg per day (20mg AM, 20mg Afternoon, 20mg PM)

Estrogen Control​

  • Aromasin (12.5mg EOD) – Only if needed (will monitor for high estrogen symptoms).

Health Issues & Considerations​

Chronic Fatigue (Unexplained)​

  • Long-standing issue causing waves of exhaustion, brain fog, and difficulty maintaining energy levels.
  • Initially improved on a carnivore diet but symptoms have returned recently.
  • No clear medical diagnosis despite extensive blood tests.

Testosterone Deficiency (Previously on TRT)​

  • Previously on Testogel 100mg per day for TRT.
  • Switching to Testosterone Enanthate 500mg/week for this cycle.
  • No PCT needed post-cycle as I will resume TRT.

Solar Keratosis (Precancerous Skin Growths)​

  • Avoiding compounds that could aggravate skin conditions such as Trenbolone.
  • Using Zinc and Omega-3 to support skin health.

Knee Issues​

  • Daily leg work is limited to lighter weights to avoid excessive strain.

Supplements​

Daily Supplements (Already Owned and Using)​

  • Omega-3 (Fish Oil): 2000mg
  • Vitamin D3: 5000 IU
  • Zinc: 30mg
  • Magnesium: 442.5mg daily (1.5 tablets Cenovis Magnesium)
  • Creatine Monohydrate: 5g daily (post-workout)
  • Multivitamin (Cenovis Men's Multi): One capsule
  • Liver Support (NOW Liver Refresh): One capsule
  • Joint Support (Glucosamine + Chondroitin): One capsule
  • Cialis: 5mg daily for cardiovascular benefits and improved blood flow

Post-Workout​

  • Protein Powder (Pure-Product Australia Complex Protein): 28g protein per scoop

Diet Plan (Carnivore-Based)​

Breakfast (Post-Walk)​

  • 4 whole eggs
  • 250g beef mince
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g white rice (pre-workout energy boost)

Lunch (Post-Workout)​

  • 300g beef mince or lamb chops
  • 1 boiled egg
  • 1 handful of spinach
  • Optional: 25g sweet potato or white rice

Dinner​

  • 350g steak (or fatty beef cuts like brisket)
  • 2 boiled eggs
  • 1–2 cups broccoli or spinach
  • 1 cup bone broth

Evening Routine (Before Bed)​

  • 400mg Magnesium Citrate
  • 2000 IU Vitamin D3
  • 1 cup homemade bone broth

Snacks (Optional During the Day)​

  • 2 boiled eggs
  • Beef jerky

Total Calories (~3,000 kcal per day)​

  • Protein: ~265g
  • Fats: ~170g
  • Carbs: Optional 50g daily for workout energy

Training Routine​

Monday: Biceps​

  • EZ Bar Curls x 3
  • Dumbbell Curls x 3
  • Hammer Curls x 3
  • Wrist Supination Curls x 3
  • Concentration Curls x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1-hour fasted morning walk
  • Forearm roller x 3
  • Light leg work (leg extensions, toe ups, squats)

Tuesday: Triceps​

  • Skull Crushers x 3
  • Cable Triceps Extensions x 3
  • Triceps Kickbacks x 3
  • Triceps Push-Ups x 3
  • Dips x 3
Extra Work:

  • 1.5-hour boxing and sparring session

Wednesday: Chest​

  • Cable Chest Fly (Top, Mid, Lower) x 3 of each
  • Bench Press (Flat, Incline, Decline) x 3 of each

Thursday: Shoulders​

  • Supinated Front Raise x 3
  • Front Military Press x 3
  • Dumbbell Lateral Raise x 3
  • Cable Face Pull x 3
  • Bent-Over Rear Delt Row x 3

Friday: Back​

  • Cable Lat Pulldowns x 3
  • Seated Cable Row (Wide Grip) x 3
  • Prone Y Raise x 3
  • Roman Chair Back Extensions (Flat & Decline)
  • Dumbbell Shoulder Shrugs x 3
Saturday & Sunday: Rest Days

Goals & Expectations​

  • Muscle Gain: 8-10kg of lean muscle
  • Strength Gains: Progressive overload each week
  • Energy Levels: Improvement in chronic fatigue
  • Side Effects: Monitoring estrogen and cardiovascular markers

First Update Coming Soon​

I will be tracking progress every week with updates on strength, weight changes, and how I feel throughout the cycle.

If you have any feedback or suggestions, let me know. Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
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@aussie.muncher good detailed start.........
 
aussie.muncher said:
Yep just not fresh I cook huge once a fortnight and freeze everything. My meals are quite boring, nothing special just what my body requires. I am very militant im my process so food and pics wise this is going to be a boring log hahaha since I eat religiously and training religiously precisely whats in the beginning of my log, everyday is the same, regimented and structured exactly how I like it, boring but effective.

In saying that next cook up I will take pics of all my meals and how I pack them all and freeze them.
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aussie.muncher said:
Very strange day today.
Since I started the cycle I have been feeling great, very little fatigue, and very strong but today I had some brain fog that escalated to stomach pain like extreme hunger. After a while a very tight chest, goosebumps, weakness, blurred vision, generally uncoordinated and queasy in the stomach.
I don't know if it has anything to do with the cycle but I do not generally feel like this so I thought I would log it.
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no such thing as boring meals bro
since you got them all ready take a pic before you heat them for the EVO family

and the stomach issues, probably digestion, you got probiotics and apple cider vinegar?
 
Cycle Log Update – Addressing Liver & Stomach Issues


Since starting this cycle, I have been feeling great overall. Strength has been solid, energy levels are high, and fatigue is minimal. It really makes me think my previous TRT may not have been delivering proper testosterone levels, and now that I am on a proper Test E protocol, things are functioning the way they should, still early days but every daynis better and its honestly like a dam miracle for me.


However, over the past few days as reported, I started experiencing some strange symptoms that made me reassess a few things.



Symptoms Experienced Over the Last Few Days​


  • Diarrhea for a couple of days
  • Intermittent stitch under my right rib (liver area)
  • Queasiness after taking my vitamins and Anavar (both morning and evening)
  • Brain fog and stomach aches that turned into extreme hunger
  • Tight chest, goosebumps, slight weakness, and slightly blurred vision
  • Mild shortness of breath later in the evening

At first, I wasn’t sure if it was a side effect of the cycle or just the onset of an illness, but after reviewing everything, it looks like a combination of multiple things happening at the same time—and most of them were avoidable mistakes. Now I am far from an expert but I dug into it pretty deep and this was the outcome.



What I Believe Was Causing It​


  1. Anavar on an Empty Stomach
    • Anavar can cause nausea, digestive issues, and blood sugar fluctuations when taken without food.
    • I was taking it with my morning vitamins on an empty stomach, which may have hit my system too fast and led to brain fog, hunger swings, and weakness.
  2. Zinc and High-Dose Vitamins on an Empty Stomach
    • Zinc is well known for causing nausea when taken without food.
    • High doses of fat-soluble vitamins (D3, Omega-3, Multivitamin) can cause stomach discomfort when taken without a meal.
    • Even though I had already broken up my vitamins into morning and afternoon doses, I was still taking them without food, and this may have been causing stomach upset.
  3. Possible Mild Liver Stress from Anavar
    • The stitch under my right rib made me suspect mild liver stress, as Anavar is processed in the liver.
    • Since my diet is high in animal fats, my liver is already producing a lot of bile to break everything down, which means it is constantly working hard.
    • If bile was not moving properly, this could have contributed to the discomfort.
  4. Blood Sugar Swings from Anavar and Fasting
    • Anavar increases insulin sensitivity, which can cause blood sugar to drop faster than usual.
    • I was sometimes taking Anavar and vitamins before eating, then training fasted, which may have led to the hunger, dizziness, and blurred vision.
    • Keeping blood sugar stable is important, especially when using compounds that affect metabolism.


What I Changed Today (And The Results)​


Today, I took everything with food and separated vitamins that could cause stomach upset.


  • Anavar was taken with my largest meals instead of on an empty stomach.
  • All vitamins were taken with food instead of before eating.
  • I kept my water intake high (3-4L today).
  • My diet remained the same. I always have a small portion of broccoli with lunch and spinach with dinner. I did not add any extra fiber.

Results Today:​


  • No stitch under the rib at all
  • Liver and stomach only had very mild discomfort
  • No blood sugar crashes, dizziness, or nausea
  • Felt 95% normal again

Silly little mistakes make all the difference. I will keep running things this way and monitor how I feel over the next few days. The takeaway here is that proper meal timing, vitamin spacing, and avoiding unnecessary fasting can make a significant difference in how the body responds.
 
Tonights T-Bone!
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Npcclassicphysique champ said:
no such thing as boring meals bro
since you got them all ready take a pic before you heat them for the EVO family

and the stomach issues, probably digestion, you got probiotics and apple cider vinegar?
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Ill post them man when I get time 100% did one today.
Also did an update in the way I was feeling yesterday.
As far as apple cider vinegar goes I am aware of the benifits but I do not put anything acidic into my body. I could probably do with more probiotics I used to have a lot of yogurt, perhaps ill consider bringing that back in if I don't level out.

Appreciate the tips brother man.
 
Should be good run
 
aussie.muncher said:
Cycle Log Update – Addressing Liver & Stomach Issues


Since starting this cycle, I have been feeling great overall. Strength has been solid, energy levels are high, and fatigue is minimal. It really makes me think my previous TRT may not have been delivering proper testosterone levels, and now that I am on a proper Test E protocol, things are functioning the way they should, still early days but every daynis better and its honestly like a dam miracle for me.


However, over the past few days as reported, I started experiencing some strange symptoms that made me reassess a few things.



Symptoms Experienced Over the Last Few Days​


  • Diarrhea for a couple of days
  • Intermittent stitch under my right rib (liver area)
  • Queasiness after taking my vitamins and Anavar (both morning and evening)
  • Brain fog and stomach aches that turned into extreme hunger
  • Tight chest, goosebumps, slight weakness, and slightly blurred vision
  • Mild shortness of breath later in the evening

At first, I wasn’t sure if it was a side effect of the cycle or just the onset of an illness, but after reviewing everything, it looks like a combination of multiple things happening at the same time—and most of them were avoidable mistakes. Now I am far from an expert but I dug into it pretty deep and this was the outcome.



What I Believe Was Causing It​


  1. Anavar on an Empty Stomach
    • Anavar can cause nausea, digestive issues, and blood sugar fluctuations when taken without food.
    • I was taking it with my morning vitamins on an empty stomach, which may have hit my system too fast and led to brain fog, hunger swings, and weakness.
  2. Zinc and High-Dose Vitamins on an Empty Stomach
    • Zinc is well known for causing nausea when taken without food.
    • High doses of fat-soluble vitamins (D3, Omega-3, Multivitamin) can cause stomach discomfort when taken without a meal.
    • Even though I had already broken up my vitamins into morning and afternoon doses, I was still taking them without food, and this may have been causing stomach upset.
  3. Possible Mild Liver Stress from Anavar
    • The stitch under my right rib made me suspect mild liver stress, as Anavar is processed in the liver.
    • Since my diet is high in animal fats, my liver is already producing a lot of bile to break everything down, which means it is constantly working hard.
    • If bile was not moving properly, this could have contributed to the discomfort.
  4. Blood Sugar Swings from Anavar and Fasting
    • Anavar increases insulin sensitivity, which can cause blood sugar to drop faster than usual.
    • I was sometimes taking Anavar and vitamins before eating, then training fasted, which may have led to the hunger, dizziness, and blurred vision.
    • Keeping blood sugar stable is important, especially when using compounds that affect metabolism.


What I Changed Today (And The Results)​


Today, I took everything with food and separated vitamins that could cause stomach upset.


  • Anavar was taken with my largest meals instead of on an empty stomach.
  • All vitamins were taken with food instead of before eating.
  • I kept my water intake high (3-4L today).
  • My diet remained the same. I always have a small portion of broccoli with lunch and spinach with dinner. I did not add any extra fiber.

Results Today:​


  • No stitch under the rib at all
  • Liver and stomach only had very mild discomfort
  • No blood sugar crashes, dizziness, or nausea
  • Felt 95% normal again

Silly little mistakes make all the difference. I will keep running things this way and monitor how I feel over the next few days. The takeaway here is that proper meal timing, vitamin spacing, and avoiding unnecessary fasting can make a significant difference in how the body responds.
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aussie.muncher said:
Tonights T-Bone!
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aussie.muncher said:
Ill post them man when I get time 100% did one today.
Also did an update in the way I was feeling yesterday.
As far as apple cider vinegar goes I am aware of the benifits but I do not put anything acidic into my body. I could probably do with more probiotics I used to have a lot of yogurt, perhaps ill consider bringing that back in if I don't level out.

Appreciate the tips brother man.
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Lunch meals ready to freeze. I mix in some greek yogurt or melt some grass fed butter over it after heated up.

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Great update and your meal pics are legit true champion prep for meals. :D @aussie.muncher
I think your digestive issues are due to lack of probiotics and digestive enzymes and psyllium husk, add all 3 and you'll see a difference right away.
 
anabolic steroids don't cause more insulin sensitivity, they do the opposite which is what i believe you meant above.

sometimes you are best served spreading carbs out especially on the harsher steroids. a proper var dose though would not cause these issues
 
Are you noticing any side effects from the clen + tren?

Pretty brutal. I bet.
 
Nice job. Posting up the cardio. Would love to see some food pictures as well.
 
I think I saw your pictures in Another Log, you put up, you look absolutely diced. Good job.
 
winstrol 50mgs a day is perfect.

i love this stack.
 
10K daily steps is pretty good man.

8 weeks out let's do this!
 
aussie.muncher said:
Cycle Log Update – Addressing Liver & Stomach Issues


Since starting this cycle, I have been feeling great overall. Strength has been solid, energy levels are high, and fatigue is minimal. It really makes me think my previous TRT may not have been delivering proper testosterone levels, and now that I am on a proper Test E protocol, things are functioning the way they should, still early days but every daynis better and its honestly like a dam miracle for me.


However, over the past few days as reported, I started experiencing some strange symptoms that made me reassess a few things.



Symptoms Experienced Over the Last Few Days​


  • Diarrhea for a couple of days
  • Intermittent stitch under my right rib (liver area)
  • Queasiness after taking my vitamins and Anavar (both morning and evening)
  • Brain fog and stomach aches that turned into extreme hunger
  • Tight chest, goosebumps, slight weakness, and slightly blurred vision
  • Mild shortness of breath later in the evening

At first, I wasn’t sure if it was a side effect of the cycle or just the onset of an illness, but after reviewing everything, it looks like a combination of multiple things happening at the same time—and most of them were avoidable mistakes. Now I am far from an expert but I dug into it pretty deep and this was the outcome.



What I Believe Was Causing It​


  1. Anavar on an Empty Stomach
    • Anavar can cause nausea, digestive issues, and blood sugar fluctuations when taken without food.
    • I was taking it with my morning vitamins on an empty stomach, which may have hit my system too fast and led to brain fog, hunger swings, and weakness.
  2. Zinc and High-Dose Vitamins on an Empty Stomach
    • Zinc is well known for causing nausea when taken without food.
    • High doses of fat-soluble vitamins (D3, Omega-3, Multivitamin) can cause stomach discomfort when taken without a meal.
    • Even though I had already broken up my vitamins into morning and afternoon doses, I was still taking them without food, and this may have been causing stomach upset.
  3. Possible Mild Liver Stress from Anavar
    • The stitch under my right rib made me suspect mild liver stress, as Anavar is processed in the liver.
    • Since my diet is high in animal fats, my liver is already producing a lot of bile to break everything down, which means it is constantly working hard.
    • If bile was not moving properly, this could have contributed to the discomfort.
  4. Blood Sugar Swings from Anavar and Fasting
    • Anavar increases insulin sensitivity, which can cause blood sugar to drop faster than usual.
    • I was sometimes taking Anavar and vitamins before eating, then training fasted, which may have led to the hunger, dizziness, and blurred vision.
    • Keeping blood sugar stable is important, especially when using compounds that affect metabolism.


What I Changed Today (And The Results)​


Today, I took everything with food and separated vitamins that could cause stomach upset.


  • Anavar was taken with my largest meals instead of on an empty stomach.
  • All vitamins were taken with food instead of before eating.
  • I kept my water intake high (3-4L today).
  • My diet remained the same. I always have a small portion of broccoli with lunch and spinach with dinner. I did not add any extra fiber.

Results Today:​


  • No stitch under the rib at all
  • Liver and stomach only had very mild discomfort
  • No blood sugar crashes, dizziness, or nausea
  • Felt 95% normal again

Silly little mistakes make all the difference. I will keep running things this way and monitor how I feel over the next few days. The takeaway here is that proper meal timing, vitamin spacing, and avoiding unnecessary fasting can make a significant difference in how the body responds.
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You’ve done a lot of research and hit a lot of it spot on
 

UPDATED - 12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​


Stats vs. Baseline - End of week 2​

MeasurementStartingCurrentChange
Weight74kg75kg+1kg
Neck39cm40cm+1cm
Shoulders (circumference)122cm125cm+3cm
Chest (around nipples)106.5cm107.5cm+1cm
Biceps (flexed, Right)37cm37.4cm+0.4cm
Biceps (flexed, Left)36cm37cm+1cm
Forearms (relaxed, Right)29cm29cmNo change
Forearms (relaxed, Left)29cm28.8cm-0.2cm
Waist (at navel)95.9cm96cm+0.1cm
Hips (widest part)96.8cm98.3cm+1.5cm
Thighs (flexed, Right)55cm57.5cm+2.5cm
Thighs (flexed, Left)54.4cm57.5cm+3.1cm
Calves (relaxed, Right)38.1cm38.5cm+0.4cm
Calves (relaxed, Left)37.5cm37.5cmNo change

Strength & Performance Gains​

  • All lifts are up by about 10%.
  • Stamina has increased by ~15%, making workouts feel easier even when pushing heavier weights.
  • Recovery is ridiculous—I’m lifting heavier, for longer, and I barely feel sore the next day. This is a completely different experience compared to before the cycle.

Health & Recovery Updates​

Fatigue Levels​

  • Almost completely gone. I feel 85-90% normal again, which hasn’t happened in years.
  • Before this cycle, I was constantly exhausted, brain-fogged, and struggling through the day. Now, it feels like I actually have consistent energy levels but I have had a few recent short bouts of fatigue.
  • Most likely explanation? My old TRT wasn’t giving me stable testosterone levels, and this higher-dose Test E is finally fixing that issue, I hope in the coming weeks the fatigue is completely gone.

Liver & Digestive Health​

  • 98% resolved. The stitch under my right rib is gone, and my stomach is back to normal.
  • The only thing I notice now is a very mild liver soreness on rare occasions, but nothing that seems concerning.

Chest Tightness & Breathing Issues​

  • Fully gone. Had a few weird moments with this last week, but with the adjustments I already reported, it’s completely disappeared now.

Estrogen Management​

  • No signs of high estrogen yet—no bloating, water retention, or mood swings.
  • Aromasin is still on standby but hasn’t been needed yet.

Key Takeaways From This Update​

  • +1kg weight gain with almost no fat increase (waist only up +0.1cm).
  • Massive size increases in shoulders, thighs, and chest.
  • Biceps and calves are growing, forearms stayed about the same (to be fair I haven't trained them).
  • Strength up 10%, stamina up 15%.
  • Fatigue is almost completely gone (recent small bouts)—this is the best I’ve felt in years.
  • Liver and digestion are basically back to normal.
  • Chest tightness and breathing issues completely gone.

I'll give another full comparison update at the end of next week.
 
aussie.muncher said:

UPDATED - 12-Week Muscle Growth Cycle Log – Goal: 8-10kg Muscle Gain​


Stats vs. Baseline - End of week 2​

MeasurementStartingCurrentChange
Weight74kg75kg+1kg
Neck39cm40cm+1cm
Shoulders (circumference)122cm125cm+3cm
Chest (around nipples)106.5cm107.5cm+1cm
Biceps (flexed, Right)37cm37.4cm+0.4cm
Biceps (flexed, Left)36cm37cm+1cm
Forearms (relaxed, Right)29cm29cmNo change
Forearms (relaxed, Left)29cm28.8cm-0.2cm
Waist (at navel)95.9cm96cm+0.1cm
Hips (widest part)96.8cm98.3cm+1.5cm
Thighs (flexed, Right)55cm57.5cm+2.5cm
Thighs (flexed, Left)54.4cm57.5cm+3.1cm
Calves (relaxed, Right)38.1cm38.5cm+0.4cm
Calves (relaxed, Left)37.5cm37.5cmNo change

Strength & Performance Gains​

  • All lifts are up by about 10%.
  • Stamina has increased by ~15%, making workouts feel easier even when pushing heavier weights.
  • Recovery is ridiculous—I’m lifting heavier, for longer, and I barely feel sore the next day. This is a completely different experience compared to before the cycle.

Health & Recovery Updates​

Fatigue Levels​

  • Almost completely gone. I feel 85-90% normal again, which hasn’t happened in years.
  • Before this cycle, I was constantly exhausted, brain-fogged, and struggling through the day. Now, it feels like I actually have consistent energy levels but I have had a few recent short bouts of fatigue.
  • Most likely explanation? My old TRT wasn’t giving me stable testosterone levels, and this higher-dose Test E is finally fixing that issue, I hope in the coming weeks the fatigue is completely gone.

Liver & Digestive Health​

  • 98% resolved. The stitch under my right rib is gone, and my stomach is back to normal.
  • The only thing I notice now is a very mild liver soreness on rare occasions, but nothing that seems concerning.

Chest Tightness & Breathing Issues​

  • Fully gone. Had a few weird moments with this last week, but with the adjustments I already reported, it’s completely disappeared now.

Estrogen Management​

  • No signs of high estrogen yet—no bloating, water retention, or mood swings.
  • Aromasin is still on standby but hasn’t been needed yet.

Key Takeaways From This Update​

  • +1kg weight gain with almost no fat increase (waist only up +0.1cm).
  • Massive size increases in shoulders, thighs, and chest.
  • Biceps and calves are growing, forearms stayed about the same (to be fair I haven't trained them).
  • Strength up 10%, stamina up 15%.
  • Fatigue is almost completely gone (recent small bouts)—this is the best I’ve felt in years.
  • Liver and digestion are basically back to normal.
  • Chest tightness and breathing issues completely gone.

I'll give another full comparison update at the end of next week.
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Interesting update, keep us updated thanks. :D
 

Cycle Log Update – Insane Pumps & Muscle Tightness​

Today’s training session was next level, but not in the way I expected. The pumps were so extreme that it felt like my muscles were about to rip through my skin. My calves locked up so tight after training legs that I physically couldn’t fully extend my leg for a while. On top of that, my biceps and forearms were so engorged that it felt like the skin couldn’t stretch enough to contain the muscle.

This wasn’t just a normal pump—it was beyond uncomfortable and borderline restrictive. It faded about 10 minutes after training, but I still had a lingering pump for about an hour after finishing.

What’s Causing It?​

  • Anavar is almost certainly the main culprit here.

What I’m Doing to Fix It​

I’m not going to let this impact my training, but I am going to adjust a few things to prevent it from getting worse.

- Increase sodium & potassium – Celtic Sea Salt for sodium, plus a potassium supplement or potassium salt to balance things out.
- Make sure water intake stays at 3.5-4L daily, but include electrolytes so I don’t flush out minerals.
- Take ½ teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt with 300-500mg of potassium before training to see if it helps.


This was definitely an intense experience, but as long as I manage it properly, I should be able to keep pushing hard without issues. I’ll monitor how these adjustments affect the pumps over the next few sessions and update accordingly.

Happy to take advice if anyone else has a solution for this that is tried and tested.
 
aussie.muncher said:

Cycle Log Update – Insane Pumps & Muscle Tightness​

Today’s training session was next level, but not in the way I expected. The pumps were so extreme that it felt like my muscles were about to rip through my skin. My calves locked up so tight after training legs that I physically couldn’t fully extend my leg for a while. On top of that, my biceps and forearms were so engorged that it felt like the skin couldn’t stretch enough to contain the muscle.

This wasn’t just a normal pump—it was beyond uncomfortable and borderline restrictive. It faded about 10 minutes after training, but I still had a lingering pump for about an hour after finishing.

What’s Causing It?​

  • Anavar is almost certainly the main culprit here.

What I’m Doing to Fix It​

I’m not going to let this impact my training, but I am going to adjust a few things to prevent it from getting worse.

- Increase sodium & potassium – Celtic Sea Salt for sodium, plus a potassium supplement or potassium salt to balance things out.
- Make sure water intake stays at 3.5-4L daily, but include electrolytes so I don’t flush out minerals.
- Take ½ teaspoon of Celtic Sea Salt with 300-500mg of potassium before training to see if it helps.


This was definitely an intense experience, but as long as I manage it properly, I should be able to keep pushing hard without issues. I’ll monitor how these adjustments affect the pumps over the next few sessions and update accordingly.

Happy to take advice if anyone else has a solution for this that is tried and tested.
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You should be adding an organ liver support and taurine to this mix. @aussie.muncher
 
LevButlerov said:
You should be adding an organ liver support and taurine to this mix. @aussie.muncher
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I am using a product called NOW Liver Refresh, not sure what you think about it but this product has been amazing to me. I had a fatty liver for over a decade and the doctors all said just live with it and tried to put me on statins for cholesterol. I ran a protocol of this stuff and a few other supplements recommended by my coach and after 10 weeks fatty liver was completely resolved, and cholesterol perfect for a carnivore.

I pretty much live off meat and eggs so my diet has high levels of taurine in it, do you think I should also supplement it? I do need to go to the shops and grab a potassium supplement as well.
 
Diet
 
aussie.muncher said:
I am using a product called NOW Liver Refresh, not sure what you think about it but this product has been amazing to me. I had a fatty liver for over a decade and the doctors all said just live with it and tried to put me on statins for cholesterol. I ran a protocol of this stuff and a few other supplements recommended by my coach and after 10 weeks fatty liver was completely resolved, and cholesterol perfect for a carnivore.
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I dont use NOW for liver support, I use n2guard, they support the EVO family and n2guard is designed for steroid users. @aussie.muncher but the problem where you are I think is shipping.
https://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard
https://n2guard.com

aussie.muncher said:
I pretty much live off meat and eggs so my diet has high levels of taurine in it, do you think I should also supplement it? I do need to go to the shops and grab a potassium supplement as well.
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I think you need a lot more than milk thistle for proper liver support, you need around 40 ingredients. That includes taurine, milk thistle, tudca and a whole host of multis.
 
Hey all

I just learned that apparently I am logging with AI and I am not meant to.

I use Microsoft 365 Business in my company and it has all types of assistance tools including copilot.
Initially I created a template and I fill it in as I go and the math updates for me automatically.
General I copy from my doc what I am tracking and then post it into this log with my own comments.
Is this not ok?

I don't have a lot of time on my hands and there is no way I'll be writing everything out each time by hand.
Id love to continue this log but if this is breaking the rules Ill need to discontinue it as I am not here to piss anyone off, just trying to log my program efficiently.

Can a mod please comment.

Thanks
 
LevButlerov said:
I dont use NOW for liver support, I use n2guard, they support the EVO family and n2guard is designed for steroid users. @aussie.muncher but the problem where you are I think is shipping.
https://www.evolutionary.org/n2guard
https://n2guard.com


I think you need a lot more than milk thistle for proper liver support, you need around 40 ingredients. That includes taurine, milk thistle, tudca and a whole host of multis.
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Yeah man n2guard is super hard to get here unfortunately.
 
aussie.muncher said:
Hey all

I just learned that apparently I am logging with AI and I am not meant to.

I use Microsoft 365 Business in my company and it has all types of assistance tools including copilot.
Initially I created a template and I fill it in as I go and the math updates for me automatically.
General I copy from my doc what I am tracking and then post it into this log with my own comments.
Is this not ok?

I don't have a lot of time on my hands and there is no way I'll be writing everything out each time by hand.
Id love to continue this log but if this is breaking the rules Ill need to discontinue it as I am not here to piss anyone off, just trying to log my program efficiently.

Can a mod please comment.

Thanks
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i see bro ill make a comment on the tracking to the IT team to check out Ai score
to be honest looks like all Ai written to us, check below like obviously @aussie.muncher
aussie.muncher said:
The pumps were so extreme that it felt like my muscles were about to rip through my skin. My calves locked up so tight after training legs that I physically couldn’t fully extend my leg for a while. On top of that, my biceps and forearms were so engorged that it felt like the skin couldn’t stretch enough to contain the muscle.
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we are increasing log quality rules soon, including pics and food updates for all, this is just one of the issues we are addressing bro
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
i see bro ill make a comment on the tracking to the IT team to check out Ai score
to be honest looks like all Ai written to us, check below like obviously @aussie.muncher

we are increasing log quality rules soon, including pics and food updates for all, this is just one of the issues we are addressing bro, its not but run it through your AI
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Im semi-dyslexic so Gramarly suggest words for me to use.
Its not AI written but assisted with Copilot as I mentioned.

After you talk to your IT team let me know. Ill stop logging until I hear back from you.

BTW my measurement update was due today, I'm up 6kg in 4 weeks, pretty happy with the results so far.

Cheers
 
aussie.muncher said:
Im semi-dyslexic so Gramarly suggest words for me to use.
Its not AI written but assisted with Copilot as I mentioned.

After you talk to your IT team let me know. Ill stop logging until I hear back from you.

BTW my measurement update was due today, I'm up 6kg in 4 weeks, pretty happy with the results so far.

Cheers
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best you do updates that you are actually writing bro @aussie.muncher
talk to your sponsor about it
 
aussie.muncher said:
Who is my sponsor. I was just doing this out of respect for the lab man I don't know about any sponsor.
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my bad damn bro lol I thought you had a sponsor
no sponsor you do you bro @aussie.muncher post whatever format you wish
EVO family support ;) and sorry we had misunderstanding, my fault
 
Npcclassicphysique champ said:
my bad damn bro lol I thought you had a sponsor
no sponsor you do you bro @aussie.muncher post whatever format you wish
EVO family support ;) and sorry we had misunderstanding, my fault
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All good man, I am confused as hell but I really don't understand how this forum works. Just wanted to log the results of the gear out of respect to the lab and also add value to the community if I can through my experiences.

Ill get back to it than. Full update coming this afternoon.
 
aussie.muncher said:
All good man, I am confused as hell but I really don't understand how this forum works. Just wanted to log the results of the gear out of respect to the lab and also add value to the community if I can through my experiences.

Ill get back to it than. Full update coming this afternoon.
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@aussie.muncher like i said bro i was wrong misunderstood situation
all perfecto now bro hit it hard again as you were please ;)
 

Forum Log Update – Week 6 Progress​

Time for another update. This cycle has been a bit of a rollercoaster—some solid gains but also a lot of unexpected and pretty chronic issues that I’ve had to troubleshoot along the way. Still pushing forward, but it's been a learning experience for sure, and I feel relatively unwell as I write this.

Body Measurements Update​

Since my last update, here’s where I stand:

  • Weight: 77kg (+2kg)
  • Neck: 40cm (no change)
  • Shoulders: 124cm (-1cm)
  • Chest: 105.5cm (-2cm)
  • Biceps (flexed): L: 36.5cm (-0.5cm), R: 37cm (-0.4cm)
  • Forearms (relaxed): L: 29.5cm (+0.7cm), R: 29.5cm (+0.5cm)
  • Waist (at navel): 97.5cm (+1.5cm)
  • Hips (widest part): 98cm (-0.3cm)
  • Thighs (flexed): L: 57cm (-0.5cm), R: 57cm (-0.5cm)
  • Calves (relaxed): L: 37.5cm (no change), R: 38.5cm (no change)

Strength & Training​

This is where things have taken a hit. Strength hasn't really progressed like I expected—not because of lack of effort, but because of all the side effects I’ve been dealing with.

The biggest issue? Insane pumps that border on painful. My calves and forearms have been so tight after training that I physically couldn’t straighten my legs or fully extend my arms. It’s like my muscles are going to rip out of my skin. The pumps last for a while post-training but eventually fade.

On top of that, fatigue and swelling have started creeping back in due to high estrogen levels, which has made training feel way harder than it should.

Mostly stuck to my usual training plan, but physically at a reduced rate:

  • Monday – Biceps
  • Tuesday – Triceps
  • Wednesday – Back
  • Thursday – Chest
  • Friday – Shoulders
  • Extra Work: wrist roller, and light leg work daily, had to scrap fasted walks completely for now, my calves and achilies can not handle it.

Side Effects & Solutions So Far​

Feb 16 – Severe Pumps Started​

  • Started getting crazy pumps in my calves and forearms during workouts.
  • Calves were locking up so tight I couldn't straighten my legs post-workout.
Fix:

  • Added Lite Salt for potassium.
  • Increased Celtic Sea Salt and water intake.
  • Dropped Anavar from 60mg to 40mg.
Helped somewhat make training possible but has not cleared up the issue at all.

Feb 24 – Achilles & Knee Pain Worsening​

  • Achilles tendon pain started getting worse—first just post-walks, then all day long.
  • Back of knees swollen, tight, and sore.
Fix:

  • Wearing compression sleeves on knees.
  • Gentle stretching and massage on Achilles.
  • Added Collagen and Vitamin C for tendon health.
  • Completely eliminated walking, still not doing them

Feb 26 – Liver Pain & Digestive Issues​

  • Liver pain under right rib started flaring up randomly.
  • Diarrhea had been ongoing but got worse.
  • Shortness of breath and tight chest for a couple of days.
Fix:

  • Lowered Anavar from 40mg to 20mg temp.
  • Took Activated Charcoal to absorb toxins.
  • This actually made a big difference, and the pain subsided within an hour, but i still deal wth it daily.

March 3 – Estrogen Symptoms Hit Hard​

  • Swelling in hands, joints, and ankles.
  • Hard, sore lump under left nipple.
  • Fatigue coming back.
  • Aches and general feeling of inflammation.
Fix:

  • Started Aromasin 12.5mg ED, but this didn't work.
  • Today, I upped it to 3 days of 25mg ED to bring estrogen down fast, then taper back to EOD dosing, ill see how it goes, hope it works.

March 5 TODAY – Liver Pain & Achilles Tendon at Its Worst​

  • Woke up feeling off, weak, and a bit dizzy.
  • Liver pain was sharper than before.
  • Achilles so inflamed that walking normally was painful.
Fix:

  • Dropping Anavar to 20mg for the final 11 days or stopping completely if needed.
  • Upping collagen and Vitamin C intake.
  • Keeping hydration and electrolytes in check.
  • Using compression sleeves 24/7 for knee support.

Current Challenges & Next Steps​

Right now, the biggest issues are:

  1. High Estrogen – Still holding too much water and dealing with swelling.
  2. Liver Stress – Anavar may have to go entirely if pain persists.
  3. Achilles Tendon Pain – Makes it hard to walk, let alone train properly.

What I’m Doing About It:​

  • Aromasin 25mg ED for 3 days, then back to 12.5mg EOD.
  • Keeping Anavar at 20mg max, might stop entirely if liver doesn't improve.
  • Compression sleeves and tendon rehab to avoid long-term Achilles damage.
  • Keeping diet and electrolytes locked in.

Final Thoughts​

The weight gain (+2kg) is solid, but I expected more strength progression. Side effects have slowed me down, but I’m working through them, however I will say they have been terrible and actually devastating to my training and overall health.

I’ll see how things go after a few days of higher Aromasin and lower Anavar. If things improve, I can finish strong. If not, I’ll pull Anavar early and focus on getting back to peak performance if I can.

Thanks
 
aussie.muncher said:

Forum Log Update – Week 6 Progress​

Time for another update. This cycle has been a bit of a rollercoaster—some solid gains but also a lot of unexpected and pretty chronic issues that I’ve had to troubleshoot along the way. Still pushing forward, but it's been a learning experience for sure, and I feel relatively unwell as I write this.

Body Measurements Update​

Since my last update, here’s where I stand:

  • Weight: 77kg (+2kg)
  • Neck: 40cm (no change)
  • Shoulders: 124cm (-1cm)
  • Chest: 105.5cm (-2cm)
  • Biceps (flexed): L: 36.5cm (-0.5cm), R: 37cm (-0.4cm)
  • Forearms (relaxed): L: 29.5cm (+0.7cm), R: 29.5cm (+0.5cm)
  • Waist (at navel): 97.5cm (+1.5cm)
  • Hips (widest part): 98cm (-0.3cm)
  • Thighs (flexed): L: 57cm (-0.5cm), R: 57cm (-0.5cm)
  • Calves (relaxed): L: 37.5cm (no change), R: 38.5cm (no change)

Strength & Training​

This is where things have taken a hit. Strength hasn't really progressed like I expected—not because of lack of effort, but because of all the side effects I’ve been dealing with.

The biggest issue? Insane pumps that border on painful. My calves and forearms have been so tight after training that I physically couldn’t straighten my legs or fully extend my arms. It’s like my muscles are going to rip out of my skin. The pumps last for a while post-training but eventually fade.

On top of that, fatigue and swelling have started creeping back in due to high estrogen levels, which has made training feel way harder than it should.

Mostly stuck to my usual training plan, but physically at a reduced rate:

  • Monday – Biceps
  • Tuesday – Triceps
  • Wednesday – Back
  • Thursday – Chest
  • Friday – Shoulders
  • Extra Work: wrist roller, and light leg work daily, had to scrap fasted walks completely for now, my calves and achilies can not handle it.

Side Effects & Solutions So Far​

Feb 16 – Severe Pumps Started​

  • Started getting crazy pumps in my calves and forearms during workouts.
  • Calves were locking up so tight I couldn't straighten my legs post-workout.
Fix:

  • Added Lite Salt for potassium.
  • Increased Celtic Sea Salt and water intake.
  • Dropped Anavar from 60mg to 40mg.
Helped somewhat make training possible but has not cleared up the issue at all.

Feb 24 – Achilles & Knee Pain Worsening​

  • Achilles tendon pain started getting worse—first just post-walks, then all day long.
  • Back of knees swollen, tight, and sore.
Fix:

  • Wearing compression sleeves on knees.
  • Gentle stretching and massage on Achilles.
  • Added Collagen and Vitamin C for tendon health.
  • Completely eliminated walking, still not doing them

Feb 26 – Liver Pain & Digestive Issues​

  • Liver pain under right rib started flaring up randomly.
  • Diarrhea had been ongoing but got worse.
  • Shortness of breath and tight chest for a couple of days.
Fix:

  • Lowered Anavar from 40mg to 20mg temp.
  • Took Activated Charcoal to absorb toxins.
  • This actually made a big difference, and the pain subsided within an hour, but i still deal wth it daily.

March 3 – Estrogen Symptoms Hit Hard​

  • Swelling in hands, joints, and ankles.
  • Hard, sore lump under left nipple.
  • Fatigue coming back.
  • Aches and general feeling of inflammation.
Fix:

  • Started Aromasin 12.5mg ED, but this didn't work.
  • Today, I upped it to 3 days of 25mg ED to bring estrogen down fast, then taper back to EOD dosing, ill see how it goes, hope it works.

March 5 TODAY – Liver Pain & Achilles Tendon at Its Worst​

  • Woke up feeling off, weak, and a bit dizzy.
  • Liver pain was sharper than before.
  • Achilles so inflamed that walking normally was painful.
Fix:

  • Dropping Anavar to 20mg for the final 11 days or stopping completely if needed.
  • Upping collagen and Vitamin C intake.
  • Keeping hydration and electrolytes in check.
  • Using compression sleeves 24/7 for knee support.

Current Challenges & Next Steps​

Right now, the biggest issues are:

  1. High Estrogen – Still holding too much water and dealing with swelling.
  2. Liver Stress – Anavar may have to go entirely if pain persists.
  3. Achilles Tendon Pain – Makes it hard to walk, let alone train properly.

What I’m Doing About It:​

  • Aromasin 25mg ED for 3 days, then back to 12.5mg EOD.
  • Keeping Anavar at 20mg max, might stop entirely if liver doesn't improve.
  • Compression sleeves and tendon rehab to avoid long-term Achilles damage.
  • Keeping diet and electrolytes locked in.

Final Thoughts​

The weight gain (+2kg) is solid, but I expected more strength progression. Side effects have slowed me down, but I’m working through them, however I will say they have been terrible and actually devastating to my training and overall health.

I’ll see how things go after a few days of higher Aromasin and lower Anavar. If things improve, I can finish strong. If not, I’ll pull Anavar early and focus on getting back to peak performance if I can.

Thanks
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If your pain is getting worse on the knee I would start bone broth, joint support and +bpc157 and tb500 asap.
 
Man, that's a good workout session all week. You're training your balls off every day.
 
Severe pumps. Look fantastic.

Keep up the good work, that Achilles and knee pain are good observations to keep an eye on
 
It's very thorough update, man.

Unfortunately, this game isn't always sunshine and rainbows. There's gonna be some ups and downs.
 
You're going through some tough times. I hear you on that. Got to make sure you listen to your body.
 
I would not over-train through major problems.
If you're noticing inflammation and swelling, then that's definitely something to watch.
 
Glad to see you back updating us. Don't forget to get some real pictures up. We want to see that as well.

Sometimes food can increase the chance of injury and inflammation.
 
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