Fat Loss Stall - Advice?

Nekojeeta · Jul 26, 2025

I started focusing on my health ~1 year ago and have gone from ~50% BF down to 25% but have stalled the last several months (gaining 2-3 lbs of muscle a month and losing 2-3 lbs of fat) and looking for advice on how to break the stall…

Weight:
- 88kg @ 25% BF

Training:
- Lift 3-4X week
- Do 15-20 mins of cardio after each lifting session and 30-45 min additional session 1x week
Diet:
- Around 1700-2000 cals (240-260g protein, 120-150g carbs, plus some minimal healthy fats)
- have tried a refeed day once a week but didn’t help so gave that up as I just found myself spending most the week working off the weight gain from it

PEDs (9-12 months usage):
- 20mg TestC daily (~1200 Total T, ~60 e2)
- 3iu HGH before bed and 1.5iu in AM
- 10mg Tirzepatide weekly and 1mg Reta weekly (the Reta has really helped lower glucose)
- Usually do 500mg of L-Carn on training days

Thoughts, but open to ideas:
- I’m thinking it may be my thyroid slowing down… so I was thinking of grant my Free T3/T4, TSH and Reverse T3 checked and potentially supplement with T4/T3
- I don’t really understand how to effectively use the T4/T3 and I’m wondering if the following makes sense:

Take enough T4 to get it between 1-2 on bloodwork

Take enough T3 to get it to between 3.5-4.3 on bloodwork

Reverse T3: as low as possible, and this can be done via taking the following supplements daily: Iodine, Selenium (200mcg/mg?), Zinc Gluconate (50mg), Magnesium (bichlomonate before bed)

TSH: As close as one as possible (not important)

My other thought was to do 1-2 months of 20mcg clen in the AM and 250mcg of SLUPP332 with each meal…

Thanks!

jerseyshoremuscles · Jul 26, 2025

Look into Retatrutide, Tesamorelin, and Hexarelin

Nekojeeta · Jul 26, 2025

jerseyshoremuscles said:
Look into Retatrutide, Tesamorelin, and Hexarelin

I’m taking 1mg a week to lower glucose (working well) and from everything I’ve read it’s better to just take actual HGH than Tesa/Hexa (and I’m already on the HGH)

s.gentz · Jul 26, 2025

Nekojeeta said:
I started focusing on my health ~1 year ago and have gone from ~50% BF down to 25% but have stalled the last several months (gaining 2-3 lbs of muscle a month and losing 2-3 lbs of fat) and looking for advice on how to break the stall…

Weight:
- 88kg @ 25% BF

Training:
- Lift 3-4X week
- Do 15-20 mins of cardio after each lifting session and 30-45 min additional session 1x week
Diet:
- Around 1700-2000 cals (240-260g protein, 120-150g carbs, plus some minimal healthy fats)
- have tried a refeed day once a week but didn’t help so gave that up as I just found myself spending most the week working off the weight gain from it

PEDs (9-12 months usage):
- 20mg TestC daily (~1200 Total T, ~60 e2)
- 3iu HGH before bed and 1.5iu in AM
- 10mg Tirzepatide weekly and 1mg Reta weekly (the Reta has really helped lower glucose)
- Usually do 500mg of L-Carn on training days

Thoughts, but open to ideas:
- I’m thinking it may be my thyroid slowing down… so I was thinking of grant my Free T3/T4, TSH and Reverse T3 checked and potentially supplement with T4/T3
- I don’t really understand how to effectively use the T4/T3 and I’m wondering if the following makes sense:

Take enough T4 to get it between 1-2 on bloodwork

Take enough T3 to get it to between 3.5-4.3 on bloodwork

Reverse T3: as low as possible, and this can be done via taking the following supplements daily: Iodine, Selenium (200mcg/mg?), Zinc Gluconate (50mg), Magnesium (bichlomonate before bed)

TSH: As close as one as possible (not important)

My other thought was to do 1-2 months of 20mcg clen in the AM and 250mcg of SLUPP332 with each meal…

Thanks!

You don’t need to be faking that much GH. 1-2 iu daily while dieting is more than good.
You’re already doing about as much as you can.
How long have you been dieting? You may need a diet break to get metabolism going.

Nekojeeta · Jul 26, 2025

s.gentz said:
You don’t need to be faking that much GH. 1-2 iu daily while dieting is more than good.
You’re already doing about as much as you can.
How long have you been dieting? You may need a diet break to get metabolism going.

It’s been about a year

s.gentz · Jul 26, 2025

Nekojeeta said:
It’s been about a year

I would honestly take a diet break. Not going back to eating shit but just good food and add little in every couple weeks to bring your maintenance up.
If your eating the cals your eating and weight is not dropping then you need to reset if it’s been that long. You really can’t eat much less than you are now.
You mention “around” when talking about cals. Are you measuring or guessing?

Nekojeeta · Jul 26, 2025

s.gentz said:
I would honestly take a diet break. Not going back to eating shit but just good food and add little in every couple weeks to bring your maintenance up.
If your eating the cals your eating and weight is not dropping then you need to reset if it’s been that long. You really can’t eat much less than you are now.
You mention “around” when talking about cals. Are you measuring or guessing?

Thanks - I say around that amount, as some days I’ll skip some of the carbs but everything is measured and out.

Npcclassicphysique champ · Jul 26, 2025

Nekojeeta said:
I started focusing on my health ~1 year ago and have gone from ~50% BF down to 25% but have stalled the last several months (gaining 2-3 lbs of muscle a month and losing 2-3 lbs of fat) and looking for advice on how to break the stall…

Weight:
- 88kg @ 25% BF

Training:
- Lift 3-4X week
- Do 15-20 mins of cardio after each lifting session and 30-45 min additional session 1x week
Diet:
- Around 1700-2000 cals (240-260g protein, 120-150g carbs, plus some minimal healthy fats)
- have tried a refeed day once a week but didn’t help so gave that up as I just found myself spending most the week working off the weight gain from it

PEDs (9-12 months usage):
- 20mg TestC daily (~1200 Total T, ~60 e2)
- 3iu HGH before bed and 1.5iu in AM
- 10mg Tirzepatide weekly and 1mg Reta weekly (the Reta has really helped lower glucose)
- Usually do 500mg of L-Carn on training days

Thoughts, but open to ideas:
- I’m thinking it may be my thyroid slowing down… so I was thinking of grant my Free T3/T4, TSH and Reverse T3 checked and potentially supplement with T4/T3
- I don’t really understand how to effectively use the T4/T3 and I’m wondering if the following makes sense:

Take enough T4 to get it between 1-2 on bloodwork

Take enough T3 to get it to between 3.5-4.3 on bloodwork

Reverse T3: as low as possible, and this can be done via taking the following supplements daily: Iodine, Selenium (200mcg/mg?), Zinc Gluconate (50mg), Magnesium (bichlomonate before bed)

TSH: As close as one as possible (not important)

My other thought was to do 1-2 months of 20mcg clen in the AM and 250mcg of SLUPP332 with each meal…

Thanks!

@Nekojeeta welcome to the EVO family broly

you were actually 50% bodyfat, you sure? thats a heck of number

i think we can help you here to go further, but we really need to know more about you now especially you're on cycle, like i think there is a thyroid issue but we can talk in the log
your case is unique and difficult broly and we need more info, how can you help?
start a LOG in a new thread with your current cycle and diet, post diet training cardio sleep and history and this thread and we can actually help you and guide you
takes like 15min not more and 5min to update

HOW-TO LOG?

To really guide you we need more info from you.
Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
It will take 15-20 minutes max.
We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

MarkNV · Sep 16, 2025

This was getting interesting and
He just stopped!!

I was hoping to see more about resetting.

Maybe I will ask that question on my own log

LevButlerov · Sep 16, 2025

MarkNV said:
This was getting interesting and
He just stopped!!

I was hoping to see more about resetting.

Maybe I will ask that question on my own log

@MarkNV the user @Nekojeeta started a log
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ide-retatrutide-l-carnitine-cycle-log.105883/
but he had no pics, and we don't do logs without pics anymore

Nekojeeta · Sep 17, 2025

MarkNV said:
This was getting interesting and
He just stopped!!

I was hoping to see more about resetting.

Maybe I will ask that question on my own log

I’m semi here and happy to answer any questions - the mods just seem to have some fetish for pics invading one’s privacy and can’t take no for an answer…

Eddie Haskell · Sep 17, 2025

Nekojeeta said:
I’m semi here and happy to answer any questions - the mods just seem to have some fetish for pics invading one’s privacy and can’t take no for an answer…

@Nekojeeta some would call it fetisherotic

But in all seriousness, it’s a policy we are enforcing for logs, pics.

LevButlerov · Sep 17, 2025

Nekojeeta said:
I’m semi here and happy to answer any questions - the mods just seem to have some fetish for pics invading one’s privacy and can’t take no for an answer…

I probably was too hard on your pics because the real pic policy just came into force recently.
Can you continue your log please? we will assign an avatar for you -
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...ide-retatrutide-l-carnitine-cycle-log.105883/
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