My bloodwork

[IdkBruh]

Hello everyone.

If you are not familiar with me, I posted a thread about how I wanted to use topical DHT to see if I could enhance facial/body hair growth. I later posted another thread where I was worried about side effects after about 3 to 4 months of cycled use, like smaller testicles. I was told to get my bloodwork done, and I finally did it after about 2 to 3 months of being off the DHT treatment, and I have finally gotten back the results. I purchased a lab from Private MD Labs, and took the test at about 9 AM in the morning. Im a 5 foot 11, 23 Y/O male at about 180 pounds. I have posted the full results report I was given, obviously without the sensitive personal information.

I dont want to put words in anyones mouths as I am not an expert, but just based on the results and the bit of research ive done, I do feel like my results are not as bad as I thought. But it still could be better. And I still think my balls feel smaller than they used to. I think my LH might be a bit low, though Ive also read that its fine if its low as long as my testosterone is relatively high. My testosterone is probably average. So I dont know what to make of that. It also seems like my natural DHT is low, which is the entire goal to raise. Unfortunately I dont any any previous results to compare.

Let me know know what you guys think and recommend for me to do from here. Thanks.

 

[s.gentz]

Hello everyone.

If you are not familiar with me, I posted a thread about how I wanted to use topical DHT to see if I could enhance facial/body hair growth. I later posted another thread where I was worried about side effects after about 3 to 4 months of cycled use, like smaller testicles. I was told to get my bloodwork done, and I finally did it after about 2 to 3 months of being off the DHT treatment, and I have finally gotten back the results. I purchased a lab from Private MD Labs, and took the test at about 9 AM in the morning. Im a 5 foot 11, 23 Y/O male at about 180 pounds. I have posted the full results report I was given, obviously without the sensitive personal information.

I dont want to put words in anyones mouths as I am not an expert, but just based on the results and the bit of research ive done, I do feel like my results are not as bad as I thought. But it still could be better. And I still think my balls feel smaller than they used to. I think my LH might be a bit low, though Ive also read that its fine if its low as long as my testosterone is relatively high. My testosterone is probably average. So I dont know what to make of that. It also seems like my natural DHT is low, which is the entire goal to raise. Unfortunately I dont any any previous results to compare.

Let me know know what you guys think and recommend for me to do from here. Thanks.

Your bloods for the most part are great. Everything is in range. Your hormone panel is all on the low side for your age, but without knowing where you where before there is no way to say if you did any damage or if your better or worse off than you where.
This is all because you want more facial hair??

 

[stevesmi]

you don't stop developing until mid to late 20's

this misconception that your test levels are highest in your late teens is just bro science. oh i forgot some idiot on social media thinks cause he was rubbing one out daily at 17 that means his test levels were highest at that age. no that isn't how this works. changing hormones is not the same thing. your hormones are STILL changing at your age !

at your age focus on your education and building skills. you shouldn't even be checking your hormones yet, its just gonna stress you out over nothing. and work on other things to improve. NOBODY at your age has it figured out, that is the point of being young. keep reading and learning about this stuff and set yourself up for success later in life

 

[IdkBruh]

Your bloods for the most part are great. Everything is in range. Your hormone panel is all on the low side for your age, but without knowing where you where before there is no way to say if you did any damage or if your better or worse off than you where.
This is all because you want more facial hair??

Yes, they are technically in range thank goodness. However, it seems like T and DHT still seem to be on the lower end of the range unfortunately. Also, I still feel like I have low-T symptoms, even before taking DHT. Of course, it could also be due to various other reasons, but I do feel like I’ve had decreasing libido over the past year or so, again, even before the DHT treatment. I’ve also almost always felt fatigued and unmotivated, the latter of which is especially the case as of late. Again, it could be technically unrelated, maybe I’m just feeling burnt out in general in life, but perhaps not. The reason I bring this up is because also based on some of my quick research, what may seem like objectively high T levels does not always translate to no low-T symptoms. Is there anything out there that could help improve LH levels that you would recommend and could be worth a try?

“This is all because you want more facial hair??”

Yes and no. I honestly wanted to check my levels even before trying the DHT treatment, if that’s what you mean. But if you mean taking DHT in general, then yeah I guess, it’s just always been a dream of mine to have nice facial hair I guess.

 

[IdkBruh]

you don't stop developing until mid to late 20's

this misconception that your test levels are highest in your late teens is just bro science. oh i forgot some idiot on social media thinks cause he was rubbing one out daily at 17 that means his test levels were highest at that age. no that isn't how this works. changing hormones is not the same thing. your hormones are STILL changing at your age !

at your age focus on your education and building skills. you shouldn't even be checking your hormones yet, its just gonna stress you out over nothing. and work on other things to improve. NOBODY at your age has it figured out, that is the point of being young. keep reading and learning about this stuff and set yourself up for success later in life

Yeah that’s fair. I guess Im just trying to rush life. But my mentality is that I want to live my young life to its full extent while I can, which also in my mind partially means having the aesthetic I’ve always wanted. Once I reach like 30, I just have a feeling that I won’t care as much anymore about this stuff even if I do finally get a beard and then I’ll just be sad that I couldn’t have it when I was younger when it matters more.

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Hello everyone.

If you are not familiar with me, I posted a thread about how I wanted to use topical DHT to see if I could enhance facial/body hair growth. I later posted another thread where I was worried about side effects after about 3 to 4 months of cycled use, like smaller testicles. I was told to get my bloodwork done, and I finally did it after about 2 to 3 months of being off the DHT treatment, and I have finally gotten back the results. I purchased a lab from Private MD Labs, and took the test at about 9 AM in the morning. Im a 5 foot 11, 23 Y/O male at about 180 pounds. I have posted the full results report I was given, obviously without the sensitive personal information.

I dont want to put words in anyones mouths as I am not an expert, but just based on the results and the bit of research ive done, I do feel like my results are not as bad as I thought. But it still could be better. And I still think my balls feel smaller than they used to. I think my LH might be a bit low, though Ive also read that its fine if its low as long as my testosterone is relatively high. My testosterone is probably average. So I dont know what to make of that. It also seems like my natural DHT is low, which is the entire goal to raise. Unfortunately I dont any any previous results to compare.

Let me know know what you guys think and recommend for me to do from here. Thanks.

@IdkBruh here is the issue, I cant open PDFs and about 90% of guys cant either, can you please screen shot the test page by page and post it as images
share please and we'll check thanks bro

 

[Quadsweep]

the more you obsess over this the more problems you'll have
a lot of this is definitely in your head

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro stop being a poosy. man up and all will be good. bang lot lizards atleast twice a week, they will turn you into a real man ..come to ranch i will teach you how to live like a man.

 

[JasonPriest]

don't think that hopping on hormones is the answer. It probably is not

 

[caligirl85]

that is good that you are learning about this stuff, keep getting smarter

 

[zedhed]

nice to see you back
i would get a log up and we can help you feel better mentally

 

[Shrine]

why do you want more facial hair? its a genetic thing

 

[Zyglamail]

your blood work is normal
why not just accept the way you are and love yourself

 

[Mobster]

Your bloods for the most part are great. Everything is in range. Your hormone panel is all on the low side for your age, but without knowing where you where before there is no way to say if you did any damage or if your better or worse off than you where.
This is all because you want more facial hair??

Yep. And ball size - ironically bigger 'on'. Which is not how PEDs work (even the topical kind)

 

[IdkBruh]

@IdkBruh here is the issue, I cant open PDFs and about 90% of guys cant either, can you please screen shot the test page by page and post it as images
share please and we'll check thanks bro

Sorry about that, I didn’t realize that would be an issue. Here’s some crudely taken screenshots of the summary pages.

 

[IdkBruh]

why do you want more facial hair? its a genetic thing

Yes I am aware it’s genetic. I’ve done my fair share of research on this. But the thing is that I am fairly confident that I do have the genes for it. Unfortunately I don’t have any brothers to compare with, but my dad and my uncle on my mom’s side both have full facial hair. But I think I inherited my dad’s facial hair pattern just looking at what I do have so far. The biggest and most bothersome difference is that I lack hair on my chin while he has plenty of hair on his chin. That’s what I’m aiming for. My hair is also more blonde unlike his, so I really need density in order to make any facial hair visible in most circumstances.

However, even so, facial hair does not rely purely on genes. The hair follicles also need to be activated, hence the need for DHT. And hence the reason why many use minoxidil for beard growth and get results within a year even if they are way past the age most typically gain most of their facial hair.

As for why I want it, I already explained why, I just like the aesthetic of it.

 

[IdkBruh]

your blood work is normal
why not just accept the way you are and love yourself

But isn’t that sort of contrary to what everyone on is forum is about? Everyone here goes on this stuff to increase their muscle mass for the aesthetics of it. So my goal is really not much different.

 

[IdkBruh]

Yep. And ball size - ironically bigger 'on'. Which is not how PEDs work (even the topical kind)

Wait, if I understand correctly you’re saying that my balls should’ve grown instead?

 

[Npcclassicphysique champ]

Sorry about that, I didn’t realize that would be an issue. Here’s some crudely taken screenshots of the summary pages.

@IdkBruh reviewed your bloods thanks for posting pics bro

Bloods
Your testosterone is 489 thats pretty high bro, not super high but high enough and shbg is low enough that you likely have high test too
which we see right there high enough
your lh fsh a bit low IMO but prolactin on point
strange you have like 0 progesterone

finally we come to DHT its in good range at 27 if you ask me

Thoughts
I reviewed your original thoughts on how you wanted to get hair issue resolved and your goals.
I'd like to know, what are your goals here?
I think if you added testosterone you would get more hair but less hair not likely here.

 

[Noah Wixx]

don't think that hopping on hormones is the answer. It probably is not

Agreed

 

[ballin2504]

The vets got ya covered

 

[25homes]

Good work on bloods

 

[IdkBruh]

@IdkBruh reviewed your bloods thanks for posting pics bro

Bloods
Your testosterone is 489 thats pretty high bro, not super high but high enough and shbg is low enough that you likely have high test too
which we see right there high enough
your lh fsh a bit low IMO but prolactin on point
strange you have like 0 progesterone

finally we come to DHT its in good range at 27 if you ask me

Thoughts
I reviewed your original thoughts on how you wanted to get hair issue resolved and your goals.
I'd like to know, what are your goals here?
I think if you added testosterone you would get more hair but less hair not likely here.

Oh really? That's considered high testosterone? Interesting, that’s good news. I was thinking 600 is average for my age.

And yeah it’s also good that prolactin is low, I was definitely expecting that to be higher since my nipples are sort of puffy. So I suppose the puffy nipples are just genetic or just from a lack of consistent weight lifting and not an actual symptom of something being wrong.

Is almost 0 progesterone a bad thing?

And is there anything that could theoretically be done about the low LH and FSH. I know it’s not that bad but I wonder if my test levels would actually be even higher with improved LH.

So if I don’t have any major issues, then now I’m just wondering what is prohibiting facial hair growth because I highly doubt I don’t have the genes for it. Perhaps I really do just have to wait for it to come in, but that just makes me wonder what it is that really causes hair to come in them. From all the research I’ve done, there really shouldn’t be anything else prohibiting growth as long as I have the hair follicles already in my skin due to genetics which I’m fairly confident I do have. The only thing I can think of is poor blood flow or vascularisation in that area or something, or it could mean poor androgen receptor sensitivity or density.

I will think about going on testosterone, however, that comes with its own potential side effects. Realistically I probably won’t try it for another couple of years while I continue to see if there’s any natural progress in terms of facial hair.

Do you also perchance know of any way to stop being allergic to minoxidil? I wish I could keep trying it but the entire reason I wanted to try DHT was because I became allergic to minoxidil a few months into using it on my face. And in the short amount of time I used it I think I actually was starting to see some good results. However it needs to be used for at least a year in order to get maximum benefit.

 

[LevButlerov]

Oh really? That's considered high testosterone? Interesting, that’s good news. I was thinking 600 is average for my age.

And yeah it’s also good that prolactin is low, I was definitely expecting that to be higher since my nipples are sort of puffy. So I suppose the puffy nipples are just genetic or just from a lack of consistent weight lifting and not an actual symptom of something being wrong.

Is almost 0 progesterone a bad thing?

And is there anything that could theoretically be done about the low LH and FSH. I know it’s not that bad but I wonder if my test levels would actually be even higher with improved LH.

So if I don’t have any major issues, then now I’m just wondering what is prohibiting facial hair growth because I highly doubt I don’t have the genes for it. Perhaps I really do just have to wait for it to come in, but that just makes me wonder what it is that really causes hair to come in them. From all the research I’ve done, there really shouldn’t be anything else prohibiting growth as long as I have the hair follicles already in my skin due to genetics which I’m fairly confident I do have. The only thing I can think of is poor blood flow or vascularisation in that area or something, or it could mean poor androgen receptor sensitivity or density.

I will think about going on testosterone, however, that comes with its own potential side effects. Realistically I probably won’t try it for another couple of years while I continue to see if there’s any natural progress in terms of facial hair.

Do you also perchance know of any way to stop being allergic to minoxidil? I wish I could keep trying it but the entire reason I wanted to try DHT was because I became allergic to minoxidil a few months into using it on my face. And in the short amount of time I used it I think I actually was starting to see some good results. However it needs to be used for at least a year in order to get maximum benefit.

@IdkBruh actually I think your testosterone is low, personally my view.
Also why do you doubt that hair growth is genetic? it very much is genetic just look at hairy vs non hairy guys natty.

My suggestion, if you want more hair, get more testosterone into your body with TRT.

 

[IdkBruh]

@IdkBruh actually I think your testosterone is low, personally my view.
Also why do you doubt that hair growth is genetic? it very much is genetic just look at hairy vs non hairy guys natty.

My suggestion, if you want more hair, get more testosterone into your body with TRT.

I never said hair growth isn’t genetic. However while there is a big genetic component, it is also very often reliant on other factors. I’m pretty sure I’ve said this multiple times by now. There’s a reason why products like minoxidil work for many people. And like I’ve also said, I’m very dubious that I don’t have the genes for it because every male family member I have can grow at least a decent beard. Also, since the last time I’ve posted here, I’ve noticed a few hairs sprout out here and there naturally. I don’t think my problem is genetic, I’m just frustrated at how damn slow it’s filling in. I don’t want to wait until I’m like 40 to be able to grow an acceptable beard.

What do you think would be a more acceptable natural level of testosterone for someone like me? I’ve been starting back up my work out routine recently so I’m hoping that will raise test a bit. Also, do you think factors like masturbating have any effect?

Also, I’ll ask this question again, do you by any chance know of anything that can help to stop an allergic reaction to minoxidil (or just in general)?

 

[LevButlerov]

I never said hair growth isn’t genetic. However while there is a big genetic component, it is also very often reliant on other factors. I’m pretty sure I’ve said this multiple times by now. There’s a reason why products like minoxidil work for many people. And like I’ve also said, I’m very dubious that I don’t have the genes for it because every male family member I have can grow at least a decent beard. Also, since the last time I’ve posted here, I’ve noticed a few hairs sprout out here and there naturally. I don’t think my problem is genetic, I’m just frustrated at how damn slow it’s filling in. I don’t want to wait until I’m like 40 to be able to grow an acceptable beard.

What do you think would be a more acceptable natural level of testosterone for someone like me? I’ve been starting back up my work out routine recently so I’m hoping that will raise test a bit. Also, do you think factors like masturbating have any effect?

Also, I’ll ask this question again, do you by any chance know of anything that can help to stop an allergic reaction to minoxidil (or just in general)?

@IdkBruh we are having a conversation 2 months apart here, to be honest I forgot about this lol.

Let me ask you first, what have you been doing in the last 2 months? food training sleep life? tell us first

 

[Sennaspeed01]

I never said hair growth isn’t genetic. However while there is a big genetic component, it is also very often reliant on other factors. I’m pretty sure I’ve said this multiple times by now. There’s a reason why products like minoxidil work for many people. And like I’ve also said, I’m very dubious that I don’t have the genes for it because every male family member I have can grow at least a decent beard. Also, since the last time I’ve posted here, I’ve noticed a few hairs sprout out here and there naturally. I don’t think my problem is genetic, I’m just frustrated at how damn slow it’s filling in. I don’t want to wait until I’m like 40 to be able to grow an acceptable beard.

What do you think would be a more acceptable natural level of testosterone for someone like me? I’ve been starting back up my work out routine recently so I’m hoping that will raise test a bit. Also, do you think factors like masturbating have any effect?

Also, I’ll ask this question again, do you by any chance know of anything that can help to stop an allergic reaction to minoxidil (or just in general)?

hey it’s been a while, you still around? how did you obtain dht gel?

 

[LevButlerov]

hey it’s been a while, you still around? how did you obtain dht gel?

@Sennaspeed01 this user @IdkBruh is gone, why do you need dht gel? tell us please

 

[Sennaspeed01]

@Sennaspeed01 this user @IdkBruh is gone, why do you need dht gel? tell us please

hypogonadism

 

[LevButlerov]

hypogonadism

whats your testosterone levels? share blood work please. @Sennaspeed01