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Ok. I am just wondering if the PED's I am using can prolong the whole thing. I wonder if I should just go into my TRT at this point. I am going to lift much lighter and less sets and reps now. I cant train the way I want.
That I don’t know. I think impingement is thought to be from when people bench press with their scapulae not moving back and around, or their upper backs not arched and retracted, so that they are kind of stuck and rubbing on tendons. But there is so much shit in the shoulder, and it is such a mobile joint, that without an MRI I don’t know if one can distinguish one kind of pain from another.
I am just wondering if since the tendons are inflamed with little space around that the PED just increase the inflamation and make it worse and take longer. I am pretty much already made up my mind I am going to just taper down to my TRT and come off masteron and anavar. I find it pointless to have them in my stack if I am going to back off on the training. No reason to keep my body under more stress if I cant lift the way I want. Will just go back to 2IU gh daily and 150-175 Test Cyp/week until Jan 1st or thereabouts.
On the shoulder. I'm mentioned frozen shoulder issues of mine. Typically (same for me) it takes 2 years for full rocovery
I do a LOT of very light (broomstick) warm ups. Like 30-40 reps in different positions before ending up pressing or benching.
MK677 every day. For months now
Joint products. If they still did it I'd use N2JointRX. It's the bollox. I also use fish oils (2ga day) and, in lieu of N2JointRX, I'll use 1500mg of a glucosomine sulphate product daily
Also consider a cortisone jab
I do a LOT of very light (broomstick) warm ups. Like 30-40 reps in different positions before ending up pressing or benching.
MK677 every day. For months now
Joint products. If they still did it I'd use N2JointRX. It's the bollox. I also use fish oils (2ga day) and, in lieu of N2JointRX, I'll use 1500mg of a glucosomine sulphate product daily
Also consider a cortisone jab
The one thing is when I do walking I can feel the tendons bumping around when my arm swings back and forth. I just started taking msm/glucosamine/chondroitin. I am doing mobility work at home a few times a day. Dropping all heavy lifting and going to do what it takes. Most likely going to just do isolation work and legs. I shouldnt lose much muscle I think. I guess its not the end of the world to dial everything back. Ive been going hard for a few months now.
Do you have any link to any utube videos that would show a good example of what should be done daily to help? Maybe even a sticky for something like this would be helpful to others on here.
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Personally no but there will be (worth a search) ones for rotator cuff exercises. I did an article on this (used pics of a gym buddy to illustrate the movements.
Key point for those: LIGHT WEIGHTS!! Do not be tempted to go heavy
One more point (just back from steps myself). If I do bench heavy I take (literally the only time I do unless I absolutely need it for something else) a single 200mg Ibuprofen capsule before the gym. Otherwise I avoid them
Are you sure you're not bone on bone? Might need scoping or joint replacement. That tendon on tendon thing doesn't sound right
Key point for those: LIGHT WEIGHTS!! Do not be tempted to go heavy
One more point (just back from steps myself). If I do bench heavy I take (literally the only time I do unless I absolutely need it for something else) a single 200mg Ibuprofen capsule before the gym. Otherwise I avoid them
Are you sure you're not bone on bone? Might need scoping or joint replacement. That tendon on tendon thing doesn't sound right
The first article is worth a look (I'll see if can find another):
https://www.evolutionary.org/category/pc-supplements/joint-health/
https://www.evolutionary.org/category/pc-supplements/joint-health/
My MRI and X-ray showed nothing wrong. It has to be swollen tendons?
Im pretty much getting all of those in good amounts daily. I just think it needs time, rest, and mobility exercises.
Could it just be inflamed fascia from the surgery or something?
Anything is possible. Would a tens unit help? I have one haven’t used in a couple years.
11/13/23
Weight 271.4
Cybex Squat Press Narrow Stance
810x15x3
Hack Squat Hoist Roc-it
270x15
360x10
360x12
Leg Extension
206x12x2 5 sec hold and slow descent on last two reps each set
Seated Leg Curls
230x12 2 sec hold slow descent last two reps each set
230x10
Standing Calf Raise
195x12x2
Yes/No's
2 supersets
Was going to just end my cycle and go on TRT but then decided fuck it. I can still train my legs hard and do other types of exercises and rep ranges on some upper body stuff. Might train legs every 5 days if I decide to skip any chest or back stuff. Can do quad focused one day and hamstring focused on another.
Weight 271.4
Cybex Squat Press Narrow Stance
810x15x3
Hack Squat Hoist Roc-it
270x15
360x10
360x12
Leg Extension
206x12x2 5 sec hold and slow descent on last two reps each set
Seated Leg Curls
230x12 2 sec hold slow descent last two reps each set
230x10
Standing Calf Raise
195x12x2
Yes/No's
2 supersets
Was going to just end my cycle and go on TRT but then decided fuck it. I can still train my legs hard and do other types of exercises and rep ranges on some upper body stuff. Might train legs every 5 days if I decide to skip any chest or back stuff. Can do quad focused one day and hamstring focused on another.
Good call man. You can train around the shoulder and stay on the cycle. Keep crushing it brother.
@RoidRage69 good training day I see you did some 360x12 really pushing it on the hack
you can stay on a lighter cycle if you can keep pumping lower and abs/core why not
maybe HGH + TRT and light +test or +primo if in your budget
My shoulder won’t allow me to do it. Believe me if I could do it I would be. Frustrating.
Me too. It's why I use a safety bar. I literally can't get both hands on a bar on my shoulders.
On the TENs - I've a small machine and it has helped
My goal over the next 3 months is to be able to start squatting and deadlifting again. Will try the tens unit out.
if you can start squatting again that would be great news
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good work bro
This tens unit sure feels good. Going to start using multiple times per day.
My entire lower body is screaming today.
Wish we had a safety bar at our gym I’d try it. I’m gonna try that tens unit too. Glad I thought of it.
Fasting is always good!
The little hand held one I have I did too (when my back was in bits in 2016). Zapping away lol
I love mine. I use it a lot
11/14/23
Weight 273.1
Morning Fasted Cardio
20min StairMaster
60min Treadmill
23 Hours Fasting
Aprox 1500 Cals
less than 60 grams carbs
Weight 273.1
Morning Fasted Cardio
20min StairMaster
60min Treadmill
23 Hours Fasting
Aprox 1500 Cals
less than 60 grams carbs
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@RoidRage69 a lot of cardio post fasting and low carbs I respect that, want to see you shred up a bit more.
Hardcore
bro yo hardcore, 23 hour fast
fasted cardio is the best thing ever.
nice job your weight is steady and you're putting on strength and muscle
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Did it last night. Felt glorious.
Great job man. Keep pushing!
11/15/23
Weight 273.7
Back #2 All sets performed with 1min rest between sets
Cable Row 1-Arm
30x15
50x15
70x15
85x15
100x15
Seated Machine Row Reverse Grip
145x15x3
Standing Cable 1-Arm Low Row performed on X-over
37x20
50x15
Shrugs Hammer Standing
180x20x3
Ab Machine
150x20x2
Treadmill 20min
Working on keeping shoulder healthy so doing light upper body work while not doing any direct arms and pounding my legs the next couple weeks. Also making sure to not do anything that involves hands above shoulder level. No Lat pulls, no incline bench. In fact no pressing either. Light dips might be the only thing for chest as far as pressing goes. Might do light cable crossover.
Aprox 2500-2700 cals
Aprox 225 grams carbs
Aprox 200 grams protein
Weight 273.7
Back #2 All sets performed with 1min rest between sets
Cable Row 1-Arm
30x15
50x15
70x15
85x15
100x15
Seated Machine Row Reverse Grip
145x15x3
Standing Cable 1-Arm Low Row performed on X-over
37x20
50x15
Shrugs Hammer Standing
180x20x3
Ab Machine
150x20x2
Treadmill 20min
Working on keeping shoulder healthy so doing light upper body work while not doing any direct arms and pounding my legs the next couple weeks. Also making sure to not do anything that involves hands above shoulder level. No Lat pulls, no incline bench. In fact no pressing either. Light dips might be the only thing for chest as far as pressing goes. Might do light cable crossover.
Aprox 2500-2700 cals
Aprox 225 grams carbs
Aprox 200 grams protein
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@RoidRage69 its a smart move going lighter on the shoulders you can go longer that way
even dips hard on the shoulder , you're a big guy putting all 270 into those dips
protein is 200 can go over 250g on your stronger training days
These are machine dips so I can control the amount of weight. Usually I go the stack but will probably only go 2/3 stack. They seem to be fine on my shoulder. Will try and go higher on the protein.
11/16/23
Weight 273.9
Legs
Leg Press
3 sets warmups
Hoist SLDL 1-Leg
90x12
90x15
Leg Ext
206x15x2
Seated Leg Curls
214x15x2
Seated Calf
90x15x2
2500-2700 Cals
200+ Carbs
200+ Protein
100+ Fat
Weight 273.9
Legs
Leg Press
3 sets warmups
Hoist SLDL 1-Leg
90x12
90x15
Leg Ext
206x15x2
Seated Leg Curls
214x15x2
Seated Calf
90x15x2
2500-2700 Cals
200+ Carbs
200+ Protein
100+ Fat
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@RoidRage69 strong day and balanced diet today 273 i see thats good to see also
Just watch the range of movement
For some lol I despise it lol
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nice to see you did three sets of warm ups people don't do enough of that
We warm up every workout we only log/post our working sets! Why would anyone not do warm up sets first??
I am considering using ozempic. Is it worthwhile in my situation? Already taking metformin and berberine.
Yep. If it hurts don't do it. That's pretty much my motto.
11/18/23
Weight 273.2
Fasted Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
65min Treadmill
2000 Cals
200 Protein
100 Carbs
80 Fat
Weight 273.2
Fasted Morning Cardio
20min StairMaster
65min Treadmill
2000 Cals
200 Protein
100 Carbs
80 Fat
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@RoidRage69 no training today right?
@RoidRage69 why use ozempic? you should just control your eating and stick to fasting. Ozempic makes you nauseous and decreases muscle mass, you can see there is a lot of negativity with it. If you're a fat obese guy sure but you train hard and keep it clean, you can stay with berberine its fine.
Berberine and metformin also decreases muscle mass. I am willing to try out ozempic and see how it works.
"Berberine suppresses protein synthesis and stimulates protein degradation in muscle."
"metformin may induce muscle atrophy in physiological low dose ranges of metformin, as well as high doses of metformin"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2911075/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8818615/#:~:text=Metformin (0.01–2 mM),Metformin is a biguanide.
If I can get better insulin response from Ozempic that is a win win for me. I can then come off the berberine and metformin. Both of which have the same side effects as well. The studies I have seen with ozempic are pretty amazing as far as visceral fat loss which I have a lot of. Just ordered a 6 month supply at umbrella. 30% off.
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I know quite a few people that are on it and have lost tons of weight.
Just look into all the sides and be careful before jumping on it
11/19/23
Weight 273.0
Fasted Morning Cardio
30min StairMaster
65min Treadmill
18 Hours Fasting
2200 Cals
250 Protein
60Carbs
100Fat
Weight 273.0
Fasted Morning Cardio
30min StairMaster
65min Treadmill
18 Hours Fasting
2200 Cals
250 Protein
60Carbs
100Fat
It’s literally a wonder drug.
That's exactly what I told my wife yesterday from all the research ive been doing on it. Should aid in the loss of my visceral fat extremely well from all that is documented. I have so much faith in it that I bought a 6 month supply this weekend.
I will definitely use it, or tirzepatide, on my next cutting phase. Silly not to IMO.
I would take tirzepatide but it costs about 5x more. You need to take 10mg per week compared to 1-2mg per week for semaglutide.
Yeah, and it is less available from most sources. I don’t think the difference in effect is great enough between the two to justify the cost, unless you are talking about something like a 4 week hard cut, where the overall cost is low and you might be able to squeeze out a little more from the Tir. Apparently there is a new one on the way, retarutide or something, that is another step forward. But all of them have the same main action, which does like 95% of the work.
Yep they all make it so the liver functions more effectively and doesnt dump glucose into the bloodstream when it doesnt need it. It also makes the pancreas output insulin only when needed. Seems like a perfect drug for us older folks who like to abuse GH.
I am waiting to see more reviews and longer term results. So many good but so many bad reviews out there. I'll be patient.
11/20/23
Weight 269.4
Chest/Tris #2
Isolateral Freemotion Bench Press
80x25
110x25
150x20
210x13
210x10
Seated Machine Dips
165x20x3
Cable Fly
50x20
60x15
Tricep Rope Pushdowns
60x15
60x10
Machine Tricep Ext
110x15x2
Treadmill 10min
3000 Cals
190 Protein
350 Carbs
100 Fat
This workout was pretty good for my right shoulder. Probably going to stick with this for a month or longer as my shoulder health is my top priority. Got a great pump going.
Weight 269.4
Chest/Tris #2
Isolateral Freemotion Bench Press
80x25
110x25
150x20
210x13
210x10
Seated Machine Dips
165x20x3
Cable Fly
50x20
60x15
Tricep Rope Pushdowns
60x15
60x10
Machine Tricep Ext
110x15x2
Treadmill 10min
3000 Cals
190 Protein
350 Carbs
100 Fat
This workout was pretty good for my right shoulder. Probably going to stick with this for a month or longer as my shoulder health is my top priority. Got a great pump going.
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@RoidRage69 350 grams of carbs you'll have amazing pump especially if it's sugary or high glycemic
but lets see how you do towards next 2 weeks, following
Wanna see it too
yeah i haven't been able to lift heavy overhead since my shoulder failure. i'm scared to even try
I was in ketosis and fully depleted for this workout. Had little carbs all weekend. The pump was the change in the workout. If you notice my weight has gone down under 270 for the first time in two months. I also did cardio in Sunday. First time to the gym on a Sunday in probably 8 weeks.
I would like to see you at it but be honest about whether you like it or not
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