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rooster18

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Your Information:
  • Age: 31
  • Height: 176cm
  • Weight: 80 kg
  • Body Fat % (estimated): i would say abou 20% maybe I have no idea honestly
  • Training Experience (in years): on and off for about 4 years
Training:

so I pretty much follow this, have been following it on and off for a few years, I've got equipment at home, limited to dumbell and barbells with a pull down cable. Plan to sign up to a gym soon, when I kive to Adelaide.
Also when I was in full swing I kinda turned this into a 6day push pull.

day 1: Monday and Wednesday
Day 2: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 3: friday
Day 4: Monday and Wednesday
Day 5: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 6: friday
Day 7: rest
Daily 3 x 3 min jump rope (intense)


im aware that this may be too many sets
and I did become inconsitent with this i I stepped up weight due to fatigue, which is kind of what ended me up impulsively jumping on cycle in the first place because I was fatigued af.
  • Dumbbell & Barbell Mass Workout​

    Monday - Shoulders​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Military Press410-14
    Seated Dumbbell Press48
    Dumbbell Front Raise38-10
    Dumbbell Lateral Raise512, 10, 8, 8, 6
    Dumbbell Reverse Fly310

    Tuesday - Back​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Wide Grip Pull down712 down to 6
    Bent Over Barbell Row412
    One Arm Dumbbell Row310
    Deadlifts410
    Dumbbell Shrugs48-12

    Wednesday - Chest, Triceps and Abs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Barbell Bench Press48
    Incline Dumbbell Bench Press410
    Decline Dumbbell Bench Press38
    Dumbbell Flys412
    Close Grip Bench Press55
    Tricep pull downs312-15 light
    One Arm Dumbbell Extension38-10
    Lying Tricep Extension412 strict
    Decline Sit Ups4MAX

    Thursday - Biceps​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Standing Barbell Curl48
    Standing Hammer Curl410
    Concentration curl312
    Reverse Barbell Curl37-8

    Friday - Legs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Dumbbell Lunge45 each leg
    Squat610
    Stiff Leg Deadlifts410
    Standing Calf Raise815-20
Diet:

  • Daily Caloric Intake: not tracking at the moment
  • Macronutrient Split: not tracking at the moment
    Meal Plan: try to list 2-3 different meal options for each
    • Breakfast: 100g of oats with blue berry's, raspberry 30g of whey protein and cinnamon
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Lunch: a muscle chef meal
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Dinner: an eye fillet steak with 2 eggs and 200g of sweet potato fries
    • Maybe 1 or 2 protein shakes on top of this
There is variation but not much, and since getting back from adelaide have almost stuck to this with a couple of different not so health snacks in between, sometimes an ice cream, been eating some chakourie board type shit, cracked, olives, goats cheese, dips.


Supplements:
  • Daily vitamin c, fish oil triple strength, Swiss men's multi.
  • Whey protein
  • Ghost pre workout
Blood Work:
  • Recent Blood Work: Yes
  • I did full bloods about 3 weeks into cycle which are available on another post
  • Im going to docs today to get e2 and liver function results
Cycle Plan:
  • Cycle Goals: didn't really start with a goal, get bigger? Bulk I guess
  • Compounds Planned for Use: originally started with sus 250 and deca 200 twice a week. Dropped the deca around week 4 also started inconsistent aromasin use around the same time
  • Dosage and Frequency: twice a week
  • Cycle Length: 12 weeks
  • Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): havent planned it yet
Additional Notes/Goals: DG

Ok so I made another post about all this.
But basically my cycle has been inconsitent and all over the place, missing doses, inconsistent training, incinsitent eating.
Last week only had 1 shot, now currently out of gear and waiting for new gear to arrive.
Currently in week 10 by the time I have gear again im in week 11, and going back to Adelaide to see my Mrs.
Was unsure whether to extend cycle or look at starting pct.

But don't really want to be coming off when I'm in adelaide. And don't even have proper pct on hand or planned yet.

Need the boys to set me straight here.
 
Also mid cycle I went to Adelaide for about 6 weeks, didn't train, didn't eat properly, drank a ton

Just got back and started trying again the last week, but back to muscle group instead of stacking 2 days together, as im feeling extra fatigue I think as I've just had a 6 week break and I've gone back to pretty much lifting the same weight.

Id say this is the reason for the fatigue, I was thinking crashed e2 or inconsistent blasting as ober the past 3 weeks or so its been inconsitent af and now im out of gear.

Anyways its a mess I know
 
Also mid cycle I went to Adelaide for about 6 weeks, didn't train, didn't eat properly, drank a ton

Just got back and started trying again the last week, but back to muscle group instead of stacking 2 days together, as im feeling extra fatigue I think as I've just had a 6 week break and I've gone back to pretty much lifting the same weight.

Id say this is the reason for the fatigue, I was thinking crashed e2 or inconsistent blasting as ober the past 3 weeks or so its been inconsitent af and now im out of gear.

Anyways its a mess I know
*** just got back and started training the last week
 
Your Information:
  • Age: 31
  • Height: 176cm
  • Weight: 80 kg
  • Body Fat % (estimated): i would say abou 20% maybe I have no idea honestly
  • Training Experience (in years): on and off for about 4 years
Training:

so I pretty much follow this, have been following it on and off for a few years, I've got equipment at home, limited to dumbell and barbells with a pull down cable. Plan to sign up to a gym soon, when I kive to Adelaide.
Also when I was in full swing I kinda turned this into a 6day push pull.

day 1: Monday and Wednesday
Day 2: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 3: friday
Day 4: Monday and Wednesday
Day 5: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 6: friday
Day 7: rest
Daily 3 x 3 min jump rope (intense)


im aware that this may be too many sets
and I did become inconsitent with this i I stepped up weight due to fatigue, which is kind of what ended me up impulsively jumping on cycle in the first place because I was fatigued af.
  • Dumbbell & Barbell Mass Workout​

    Monday - Shoulders​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Military Press410-14
    Seated Dumbbell Press48
    Dumbbell Front Raise38-10
    Dumbbell Lateral Raise512, 10, 8, 8, 6
    Dumbbell Reverse Fly310

    Tuesday - Back​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Wide Grip Pull down712 down to 6
    Bent Over Barbell Row412
    One Arm Dumbbell Row310
    Deadlifts410
    Dumbbell Shrugs48-12

    Wednesday - Chest, Triceps and Abs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Barbell Bench Press48
    Incline Dumbbell Bench Press410
    Decline Dumbbell Bench Press38
    Dumbbell Flys412
    Close Grip Bench Press55
    Tricep pull downs312-15 light
    One Arm Dumbbell Extension38-10
    Lying Tricep Extension412 strict
    Decline Sit Ups4MAX

    Thursday - Biceps​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Standing Barbell Curl48
    Standing Hammer Curl410
    Concentration curl312
    Reverse Barbell Curl37-8

    Friday - Legs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Dumbbell Lunge45 each leg
    Squat610
    Stiff Leg Deadlifts410
    Standing Calf Raise815-20
Diet:

  • Daily Caloric Intake: not tracking at the moment
  • Macronutrient Split: not tracking at the moment
    Meal Plan: try to list 2-3 different meal options for each
    • Breakfast: 100g of oats with blue berry's, raspberry 30g of whey protein and cinnamon
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Lunch: a muscle chef meal
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Dinner: an eye fillet steak with 2 eggs and 200g of sweet potato fries
    • Maybe 1 or 2 protein shakes on top of this
There is variation but not much, and since getting back from adelaide have almost stuck to this with a couple of different not so health snacks in between, sometimes an ice cream, been eating some chakourie board type shit, cracked, olives, goats cheese, dips.


Supplements:
  • Daily vitamin c, fish oil triple strength, Swiss men's multi.
  • Whey protein
  • Ghost pre workout
Blood Work:
  • Recent Blood Work: Yes
  • I did full bloods about 3 weeks into cycle which are available on another post
  • Im going to docs today to get e2 and liver function results
Cycle Plan:
  • Cycle Goals: didn't really start with a goal, get bigger? Bulk I guess
  • Compounds Planned for Use: originally started with sus 250 and deca 200 twice a week. Dropped the deca around week 4 also started inconsistent aromasin use around the same time
  • Dosage and Frequency: twice a week
  • Cycle Length: 12 weeks
  • Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): havent planned it yet
Additional Notes/Goals: DG

Ok so I made another post about all this.
But basically my cycle has been inconsitent and all over the place, missing doses, inconsistent training, incinsitent eating.
Last week only had 1 shot, now currently out of gear and waiting for new gear to arrive.
Currently in week 10 by the time I have gear again im in week 11, and going back to Adelaide to see my Mrs.
Was unsure whether to extend cycle or look at starting pct.

But don't really want to be coming off when I'm in adelaide. And don't even have proper pct on hand or planned yet.

Need the boys to set me straight here.
@rooster18 great log start, EVO family love all around.

please share more with us

Diet, Training, Cardio
Diet, please share actual meals foods and when you eat it; example the muscle chef meals, macros? pics?
Training, please share actual training as you go like reps sets weights, we see generic one , but how about weights? share as you go
Cardio, share how much and time and when
If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.

Supplements
list your supplements
probiotics?
organ liver support? like n2guard
psyllium?
digestive enzymes?

Pictures
please share pictures of you face blurred
pics of your meals
pics of your training
pics of supplements
and pics of gear

thank you for sharing and keep sharing with us :)
 
Your Information:
  • Age: 31
  • Height: 176cm
  • Weight: 80 kg
  • Body Fat % (estimated): i would say abou 20% maybe I have no idea honestly
  • Training Experience (in years): on and off for about 4 years
Training:

so I pretty much follow this, have been following it on and off for a few years, I've got equipment at home, limited to dumbell and barbells with a pull down cable. Plan to sign up to a gym soon, when I kive to Adelaide.
Also when I was in full swing I kinda turned this into a 6day push pull.

day 1: Monday and Wednesday
Day 2: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 3: friday
Day 4: Monday and Wednesday
Day 5: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 6: friday
Day 7: rest
Daily 3 x 3 min jump rope (intense)


im aware that this may be too many sets
and I did become inconsitent with this i I stepped up weight due to fatigue, which is kind of what ended me up impulsively jumping on cycle in the first place because I was fatigued af.
  • Dumbbell & Barbell Mass Workout​

    Monday - Shoulders​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Military Press410-14
    Seated Dumbbell Press48
    Dumbbell Front Raise38-10
    Dumbbell Lateral Raise512, 10, 8, 8, 6
    Dumbbell Reverse Fly310

    Tuesday - Back​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Wide Grip Pull down712 down to 6
    Bent Over Barbell Row412
    One Arm Dumbbell Row310
    Deadlifts410
    Dumbbell Shrugs48-12

    Wednesday - Chest, Triceps and Abs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Barbell Bench Press48
    Incline Dumbbell Bench Press410
    Decline Dumbbell Bench Press38
    Dumbbell Flys412
    Close Grip Bench Press55
    Tricep pull downs312-15 light
    One Arm Dumbbell Extension38-10
    Lying Tricep Extension412 strict
    Decline Sit Ups4MAX

    Thursday - Biceps​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Standing Barbell Curl48
    Standing Hammer Curl410
    Concentration curl312
    Reverse Barbell Curl37-8

    Friday - Legs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Dumbbell Lunge45 each leg
    Squat610
    Stiff Leg Deadlifts410
    Standing Calf Raise815-20
Diet:

  • Daily Caloric Intake: not tracking at the moment
  • Macronutrient Split: not tracking at the moment
    Meal Plan: try to list 2-3 different meal options for each
    • Breakfast: 100g of oats with blue berry's, raspberry 30g of whey protein and cinnamon
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Lunch: a muscle chef meal
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Dinner: an eye fillet steak with 2 eggs and 200g of sweet potato fries
    • Maybe 1 or 2 protein shakes on top of this
There is variation but not much, and since getting back from adelaide have almost stuck to this with a couple of different not so health snacks in between, sometimes an ice cream, been eating some chakourie board type shit, cracked, olives, goats cheese, dips.


Supplements:
  • Daily vitamin c, fish oil triple strength, Swiss men's multi.
  • Whey protein
  • Ghost pre workout
Blood Work:
  • Recent Blood Work: Yes
  • I did full bloods about 3 weeks into cycle which are available on another post
  • Im going to docs today to get e2 and liver function results
Cycle Plan:
  • Cycle Goals: didn't really start with a goal, get bigger? Bulk I guess
  • Compounds Planned for Use: originally started with sus 250 and deca 200 twice a week. Dropped the deca around week 4 also started inconsistent aromasin use around the same time
  • Dosage and Frequency: twice a week
  • Cycle Length: 12 weeks
  • Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): havent planned it yet
Additional Notes/Goals: DG

Ok so I made another post about all this.
But basically my cycle has been inconsitent and all over the place, missing doses, inconsistent training, incinsitent eating.
Last week only had 1 shot, now currently out of gear and waiting for new gear to arrive.
Currently in week 10 by the time I have gear again im in week 11, and going back to Adelaide to see my Mrs.
Was unsure whether to extend cycle or look at starting pct.

But don't really want to be coming off when I'm in adelaide. And don't even have proper pct on hand or planned yet.

Need the boys to set me straight here.
awesome man
lets start sharing more @rooster18

like @LevButlerov was asking
https://www.evolutionary.org/forums/threads/my-come-back-sustanon-log.100651/post-1589019
 
we'll be able to tell you your body fat with a picture
don't worry we're not here to criticize we're here to help
 
what is muscle chef meal?
is that one of those order meals that you get through the mail
 
my advice is a rice cooker and an air fryer
also a grill is perfect
 
check out the other logs
look at how people are meal prepping that will give you the keys to success
 
Look guys pretty sure I'm undiagnosed adhd, how im handling this whole process has been adhd af honestly hahaha
Don't do that 😂 I have adhd and I am not all over the place with this stuff, I get it with how our mind works we can get overwhelmed and skip around on alot of shit lol, once u learn and get comfortable that will fade away, plus u got a great community here that can and will help you out.
 
Your Information:
  • Age: 31
  • Height: 176cm
  • Weight: 80 kg
  • Body Fat % (estimated): i would say abou 20% maybe I have no idea honestly
  • Training Experience (in years): on and off for about 4 years
Training:

so I pretty much follow this, have been following it on and off for a few years, I've got equipment at home, limited to dumbell and barbells with a pull down cable. Plan to sign up to a gym soon, when I kive to Adelaide.
Also when I was in full swing I kinda turned this into a 6day push pull.

day 1: Monday and Wednesday
Day 2: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 3: friday
Day 4: Monday and Wednesday
Day 5: Tuesday and Thursday
Day 6: friday
Day 7: rest
Daily 3 x 3 min jump rope (intense)


im aware that this may be too many sets
and I did become inconsitent with this i I stepped up weight due to fatigue, which is kind of what ended me up impulsively jumping on cycle in the first place because I was fatigued af.
  • Dumbbell & Barbell Mass Workout​

    Monday - Shoulders​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Military Press410-14
    Seated Dumbbell Press48
    Dumbbell Front Raise38-10
    Dumbbell Lateral Raise512, 10, 8, 8, 6
    Dumbbell Reverse Fly310

    Tuesday - Back​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Wide Grip Pull down712 down to 6
    Bent Over Barbell Row412
    One Arm Dumbbell Row310
    Deadlifts410
    Dumbbell Shrugs48-12

    Wednesday - Chest, Triceps and Abs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Barbell Bench Press48
    Incline Dumbbell Bench Press410
    Decline Dumbbell Bench Press38
    Dumbbell Flys412
    Close Grip Bench Press55
    Tricep pull downs312-15 light
    One Arm Dumbbell Extension38-10
    Lying Tricep Extension412 strict
    Decline Sit Ups4MAX

    Thursday - Biceps​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Standing Barbell Curl48
    Standing Hammer Curl410
    Concentration curl312
    Reverse Barbell Curl37-8

    Friday - Legs​

    ExerciseSetsReps
    Dumbbell Lunge45 each leg
    Squat610
    Stiff Leg Deadlifts410
    Standing Calf Raise815-20
Diet:

  • Daily Caloric Intake: not tracking at the moment
  • Macronutrient Split: not tracking at the moment
    Meal Plan: try to list 2-3 different meal options for each
    • Breakfast: 100g of oats with blue berry's, raspberry 30g of whey protein and cinnamon
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Lunch: a muscle chef meal
    • Snack: a muscle chef meal
    • Dinner: an eye fillet steak with 2 eggs and 200g of sweet potato fries
    • Maybe 1 or 2 protein shakes on top of this
There is variation but not much, and since getting back from adelaide have almost stuck to this with a couple of different not so health snacks in between, sometimes an ice cream, been eating some chakourie board type shit, cracked, olives, goats cheese, dips.


Supplements:
  • Daily vitamin c, fish oil triple strength, Swiss men's multi.
  • Whey protein
  • Ghost pre workout
Blood Work:
  • Recent Blood Work: Yes
  • I did full bloods about 3 weeks into cycle which are available on another post
  • Im going to docs today to get e2 and liver function results
Cycle Plan:
  • Cycle Goals: didn't really start with a goal, get bigger? Bulk I guess
  • Compounds Planned for Use: originally started with sus 250 and deca 200 twice a week. Dropped the deca around week 4 also started inconsistent aromasin use around the same time
  • Dosage and Frequency: twice a week
  • Cycle Length: 12 weeks
  • Post Cycle Therapy (if applicable): havent planned it yet
Additional Notes/Goals: DG

Ok so I made another post about all this.
But basically my cycle has been inconsitent and all over the place, missing doses, inconsistent training, incinsitent eating.
Last week only had 1 shot, now currently out of gear and waiting for new gear to arrive.
Currently in week 10 by the time I have gear again im in week 11, and going back to Adelaide to see my Mrs.
Was unsure whether to extend cycle or look at starting pct.

But don't really want to be coming off when I'm in adelaide. And don't even have proper pct on hand or planned yet.

Need the boys to set me straight here.
@rooster18 Good start to the log.......
 

Last week​

Wednesday - Shoulders and Chest,​

ExerciseSetsReps
Military Press420kg 10 reps x 4
Seated Dumbbell Press410kg each side 10 reps x 4
Dumbbell Front Raise35kg each side 10 reps x 3
Dumbbell Lateral Raise55kg each side
12, 10, 8, 8, 6
Dumbbell Reverse Fly35 kg each side
3 reps of 12

ExerciseSetsReps
Barbell Bench Press440kg 10 reps x 4
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press340kg 1st ser 8 reps.
2nd 7 reps
3rd 5 reps
Decline Dumbbell Bench Press340kd 1st 7 reps
2nd 8 reps
3rd 6 reps
Dumbbell Flys210 kg 8 reps. 7.5 kg 12 reps

Thursday -​

25 km total in a day riding to work and back

Friday - Back​

ExerciseSetsReps
Wide Grip Pull down740kg 12 reps then 35 kg 11 down to 6 reps
Bent Over Barbell Row440 kg 10 reps x4
One Arm Dumbbell Row320kg 10 reps x 3
Deadlifts440kg 10 reps x 4
Dumbbell Shrugs420kg each side
10 reps x 4

Saturday- nothing​

Sunday - nothing​

 

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So this is all last week since then I haven't been as on to eating cos I've been working and busy as fuck, and tired and fatigued.
I've been tired and fatigued. Not sure if it is just life burn out, getting back into training after a 6 week break, or something else. Haven't been able to train as hard, been really struggling with fatigue and motivation and mood.
Thought it might of been low estrogen?
Still takin aromasin 10mg eod
These levels I posted were right at the end of the inconsitent period, and the estrogen and test were on separate days due to the fist doctor being shit and "not being able to justify the bloodtest" to Medicare.
Anyways yeah been feeling a but off.
 
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Last week​

Wednesday - Shoulders and Chest,​


ExerciseSetsReps
Military Press420kg 10 reps x 4
Seated Dumbbell Press410kg each side 10 reps x 4
Dumbbell Front Raise35kg each side 10 reps x 3
Dumbbell Lateral Raise55kg each side
12, 10, 8, 8, 6
Dumbbell Reverse Fly35 kg each side
3 reps of 12

ExerciseSetsReps
Barbell Bench Press440kg 10 reps x 4
Incline Dumbbell Bench Press340kg 1st ser 8 reps.
2nd 7 reps
3rd 5 reps
Decline Dumbbell Bench Press340kd 1st 7 reps
2nd 8 reps
3rd 6 reps
Dumbbell Flys210 kg 8 reps. 7.5 kg 12 reps

Thursday -​

25 km total in a day riding to work and back

Friday - Back​


ExerciseSetsReps
Wide Grip Pull down740kg 12 reps then 35 kg 11 down to 6 reps
Bent Over Barbell Row440 kg 10 reps x4
One Arm Dumbbell Row320kg 10 reps x 3
Deadlifts440kg 10 reps x 4
Dumbbell Shrugs420kg each side
10 reps x 4

Saturday- nothing​

Sunday - nothing​


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This 1 is from 1st day of the cycle 10 or so weeks ago

So this is all last week since then I haven't been as on to eating cos I've been working and busy as fuck, and tired and fatigued.
I've been tired and fatigued. Not sure if it is just life burn out, getting back into training after a 6 week break, or something else. Haven't been able to train as hard, been really struggling with fatigue and motivation and mood.
Thought it might of been low estrogen?
Still takin aromasin 10mg eod
These levels I posted were right at the end of the inconsitent period, and the estrogen and test were on separate days due to the fist doctor being shit and "not being able to justify the bloodtest" to Medicare.
Anyways yeah been feeling a but off.

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@rooster18 first thank you for sharing, you look amazing good big arms, wide shoulders and chest :) great body for building
thanks for being open and honest

on the blood work, seems your e2 high and your wbc high
you have an infection ?

whats your supplement intake now?
 
@rooster18 first thank you for sharing, you look amazing good big arms, wide shoulders and chest :) great body for building
thanks for being open and honest

on the blood work, seems your e2 high and your wbc high
you have an infection ?

whats your supplement intake now?
Thanks mate appreciate it. 👍💪
Yeah so those levels were during a time of inconsistent blasting, as I'd run out of gear. Since then have picked up consistency so I'm sure my t levels would be higher and possibly estrogen idk I've still been taking aromasin 20mg every 2nd day need to get in for more bloods.

In regards to infection, not 100% sure what the go is there, I was told I had a skin infection in my leg by a doctor after my leg swelled up after a shot for about 4-5 days, I honestly though I hit something, as it was a painful shot, I was prescribed anti biotic, which I don't like to take unless necessary, the swelling and redness went away by itself so didn't worry about taking the anti biotic and I have no symptoms of an infection there. I've since been told that my body probably fought the infection off itself but my still show signs of infection in the blood work for a few months after. 🤷‍♂️
 
Thanks mate appreciate it. 👍💪
Yeah so those levels were during a time of inconsistent blasting, as I'd run out of gear. Since then have picked up consistency so I'm sure my t levels would be higher and possibly estrogen idk I've still been taking aromasin 20mg every 2nd day need to get in for more bloods.

In regards to infection, not 100% sure what the go is there, I was told I had a skin infection in my leg by a doctor after my leg swelled up after a shot for about 4-5 days, I honestly though I hit something, as it was a painful shot, I was prescribed anti biotic, which I don't like to take unless necessary, the swelling and redness went away by itself so didn't worry about taking the anti biotic and I have no symptoms of an infection there. I've since been told that my body probably fought the infection off itself but my still show signs of infection in the blood work for a few months after. 🤷‍♂️
@rooster18 its possible you killed the infection natty , try to increase your intake of vitamins and recovery aids what supps you on now?

on the e2 so you doing aromasin seems, we need to retest hormones
 
@rooster18 its possible you killed the infection natty , try to increase your intake of vitamins and recovery aids what supps you on now?

on the e2 so you doing aromasin seems, we need to retest hormones
I take vitamin c, Swiss men's multi vitamin and triple omega 1500mg daily
 
@rooster18 thats good but how much vitamin C?

add this regiment
elderberry daily
olive leaf extract daily
echinacea daily
NAC daily
n2guard 7caps ed (not sure your location but they ship worldwide https://www.needtobuildmuscle.com/cycle-support/n2guard/)
probiotics ED 100bill+
and psyllium husk 1 time per day 1 tbps
Im limited money at the moment, and I am due to come off cycle soon also, but will research and look at these supps
I do know n2guard is a big 1 my bloods are showing signs a slight liver damage at the moment
 
Im limited money at the moment, and I am due to come off cycle soon also, but will research and look at these supps
I do know n2guard is a big 1 my bloods are showing signs a slight liver damage at the moment
@rooster18 ah I see, try to bump up the vitamin C to start off, thats something thats likely within budget and will help you recover faster :)
 
Too many exercises etc per bodypart
Yeah I thought this, feel like I was getting better results when I was just going single muscle groups. Is this what u mean, to many sets on 1 day cos I'm combining say Shoulders, chest and tris, and back and bis another day.
Recommendations?
 
@rooster18 first thank you for sharing, you look amazing good big arms, wide shoulders and chest :) great body for building
thanks for being open and honest

on the blood work, seems your e2 high and your wbc high
you have an infection ?

whats your supplement intake now?
Im feeling shit at the moment, I dont have that high T confidence i had only a few weeks ago, all anxious n shit, tired constantly atm, I feel like its worse after I take aromasin, I didn't take it for a 3 days or so, and took it today after our conversation earlier. I was told to take aromasin 10mg eod u dint know if I was meant to maintain that or?
I'll get more blood tests but idk if im not feeling great probably estrogen high or low yeah?
 
The Comeback is on
we are proud of you for this inspirational log
 
you're looking good on the pictures
now we have to tighten things up
 
life is definitely tiring and busy
you just have to get things together
 
are estrogen is high then take the AI
if it's not then stop taking it
 
very important to balance your estrogen
it needs to be where it needs to be
 
life is definitely tiring and busy
you just have to get things together
Yeah I was onto it bro I was training 6 days tired or not, but then went away to adelaide to see the Mrs, didn't really have money to be joining a gym there, kinda fell off and since I got back been trying to get back into it, but had way too much happening, still been trying to train but been getting super fatigued, idk if its a kix of being super busy and trying to get back into it after no training for 6 weeks or whether its hormonal imbalance or what.
Im trying, next cycle will be different, will have it all planned out and make sure I'm gonna with u guys before starting 👍
im doing my best at the moment.
Im appreciating all the support from you blokes 100% 💪
 
Honestly 3-4 days of training is prime imo, I only train 3 days a week and see plenty good results, the more time you have for rest, eating and sleeping the more you will grow, plus training to much can affect giant since it will shoot cortisol levels through the roof.
 
low estrogen can definitely give you some issues
mood swings and depression and low energy
 
Honestly 3-4 days of training is prime imo, I only train 3 days a week and see plenty good results, the more time you have for rest, eating and sleeping the more you will grow, plus training to much can affect giant since it will shoot cortisol levels through the roof.
Yeah probably y I'm getting fatigue, brain fog, anxiety from training, especially after the 6 week break
So how should I train Monday Shoulders, chest, tris. Wednesday back bis, Friday legs. With less sets or less excercises than what I've got atm?
 
low estrogen can definitely give you some issues
mood swings and depression and low energy
Should I stop aromasin until I check my bloods in 2 days time. I already had sromasin today, and im due to have a shot of sus tonight
 
yes we definitely need estrogen in our body
you don't want it to be too low
 
Yeah probably y I'm getting fatigue, brain fog, anxiety from training, especially after the 6 week break
So how should I train Monday Shoulders, chest, tris. Wednesday back bis, Friday legs. With less sets or less excercises than what I've got atm?
So an easy routine you can follow is what I do, you can add in your own exercises and movements, I do a push pull leg split.

Monday Chest/Tri/Delts
Tuesday Back/Traps/Bicep/RearDelts
Wednesday Legs/Core
Cardio 3-4 days a week any kind of. cardio 30-45 minutes in duration.

That could be if you are constantly exhausted your body is telling you slow down take a break, your pushing to far.to fast for to long, you will go backwards and feel awful long term. If I train 3 days I get 4 days of rest and off from the gym easy easy, I can come back fresh and stronger with that much time off.
 
You are overtraining. You should look at a typical workout in my log. I warmup the first exercise really good and then do 2 working sets. I then move onto the next exercise and do 2 working sets. I do 3-4 exercises per body part. When I do triceps on chest day I only do 2 exercises for tris. They are already pre exhausted from all the pressing movements for chest.

I workout 3 days per week and am gaining incredible amounts of muscle while in a 1000-1500 cal deficit. My body has completely changed over the last 12 months. I am down 4 notches on my belt and way stronger.
 
So you're taking 500mg per week. Yes 10mg eod of aromasin is fine. Just make sure you're not abusing other drugs or alcohol.
Not abusing drugs or alcohol, I was going to have a couple drinks tonight tho, is it ok to have a drink here or there?
 
So an easy routine you can follow is what I do, you can add in your own exercises and movements, I do a push pull leg split.

Monday Chest/Tri/Delts
Tuesday Back/Traps/Bicep/RearDelts
Wednesday Legs/Core
Cardio 3-4 days a week any kind of. cardio 30-45 minutes in duration.

That could be if you are constantly exhausted your body is telling you slow down take a break, your pushing to far.to fast for to long, you will go backwards and feel awful long term. If I train 3 days I get 4 days of rest and off from the gym easy easy, I can come back fresh and stronger with that much time off.
Thanks mate will give it a go. See the reason I was training so much is because somewhere along the way I was told u have to hit each muscle group twice a week
 
You are overtraining. You should look at a typical workout in my log. I warmup the first exercise really good and then do 2 working sets. I then move onto the next exercise and do 2 working sets. I do 3-4 exercises per body part. When I do triceps on chest day I only do 2 exercises for tris. They are already pre exhausted from all the pressing movements for chest.

I workout 3 days per week and am gaining incredible amounts of muscle while in a 1000-1500 cal deficit. My body has completely changed over the last 12 months. I am down 4 notches on my belt and way stronger.
Yeah right will take a look bro thanks
 
N-acetyl cysteine aka NAC it is a great organ and liver supplement that can help detoxic and cleanse most people run 500-600mg sometimes higher just depends on what you are taking ped wise, just in general it is a great supplement to add into the regiment, along with Tudca and Milk Thistle, Red Yeast Rice, and p5p is another good one, fish oil and CQ10 I'd look into those if you haven't heard about them.
 
Nothing much to update, im away again for 2 weeks, unable to really train, im just gonna start coming off cycle when I get home and wait til im more settled and ready to commit to a proper prepared cycle on the next 1.
I was back home for 3 weeks, started getting everything right. Now im away again, then when I get home I've got my son for tye school holidays and then im moving interstate after that, so im all over the place right now. Im just staying on so i don't have bad effects while im away.

Plan is before the next cycle to be back into training properly and eating properly first, and then to plan the rest with you guys, have the money for bloods etc and everything I need for the cycle prior to starting the cycle and obviously log the whole cycle from start to finish.

This cycle wasn't planned it was impulsive, had no support at the start and then a series of life events made it unsettled and unbalance my eating and training. Once I've moved and that and settled into my new life there won't be anymore distractions like that...

Anyways im just trying to sort out how im feeling for now cos something feels off.

Think I might go without aromasin for a bit see how I feel.

Im on a small ammount of aromasin.

But im also on a low dose of sus
250mg twice a week
 
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