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South African Mastiff Zeus has been a very naughty boy trying to eat next doors bag of shit security dog that can't be controlled unless it's in a cage which is a sad way to treat a Belgium Malinois x pitbull or any dog by that matter,the owner is not really helpful at all,anyways the problem is Zeus likes to stand on his back legs and bite at the dog trying to jump the fence and has obviously put to much weight and strain on the ligaments in rear left leg.Now his recovery log has started and as of last night he is undergoing BPC-157 / TB500@250mcg combined slit into 12hr shoots,and 1iu hgh generic no slin,helping my dog is my main priority and I have upped his suppliments which are omega 3,6,9 oil / Hip & joint powder /probiotics combined with a good diet and some light physio in water when he starts to put pressure on it again,I have no doubt this dog will pull through to full health and possibly a mini cycle to be the most jacked mastiff the world has ever seen💪
 

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I know some therapy can be cross species (Vibration Plates work very well) but is there any evidence of usage of similar peptides working for dogs. If it IS don't forget to adjust doses down.

HGH is literally HUMAN growth hormone. At a guess I'd say that's a no go. There might well be a dog version
 
Mobster said:
I know some therapy can be cross species (Vibration Plates work very well) but is there any evidence of usage of similar peptides working for dogs. If it IS don't forget to adjust doses down.
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Thanks for your recommendations my bro I appreciate it alot and will look into those vibrations plates without a doubt,Im not quite sure if there is any evidence to be honest only my first hand experience i am still under going,all i can hope is that it works as well is it did for me a keep positive,constant and on top of it all,I have started him on low dose and he has responded well and tried to walk on it this morning,just like on the pod casts I have recently been listening to of yours and Steve's which I enjoy very much and have realised alot of your views are similar to mine and we both know what doctors don't really learn about PED's and so forth,same for vets they can't tell us what's what so my option is to do what it takes for not just a dog but a true legend a protector and a piece of my family.
 
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Mobster said:
I know some therapy can be cross species (Vibration Plates work very well) but is there any evidence of usage of similar peptides working for dogs. If it IS don't forget to adjust doses down.

HGH is literally HUMAN growth hormone. At a guess I'd say that's a no go. There might well be a dog version
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Come on Steve hgh was the funny part,I know a vet she is very old and has lots operating experience on small to large animals such as horses,i go for a drive into the bush after work and pick her brain on this topic😀
 
My reference to the vibration plate was only that it DOES work for both. I know it's been used to help with healing high priced greyhounds and racing horses. That said they are a LOT more powerful than the pissy home versions you'll have seen.

With HGH we know they have to be a certain kind in terms of how many peptide bonds etc, just for humans, or they simply don't work for us. And if that's the case it'll have no effect at all. In some cases (EQ and Tren spring to mind) they ARE used on animals (horses and cattle).

In some vet grade products Oz member got excited because the amounts were HUGE like 200ml bottles to 1L bags! But the doses per ml were loads lower hence lower prices. The sterility requirements are less too (I've worked in the meat industry 1982-1990). IF some roids do work for the dog the sterility will be better for her.

100% check with the vet as to whether or not the peptides will work. It also occurred to me that SOME peptides, steroids and sarms (might also be worth a look) will have been tested on mice and rabbits so you might be in with a chance.
 
Mobster said:
My reference to the vibration plate was only that it DOES work for both. I know it's been used to help with healing high priced greyhounds and racing horses. That said they are a LOT more powerful than the pissy home versions you'll have seen.

With HGH we know they have to be a certain kind in terms of how many peptide bonds etc, just for humans, or they simply don't work for us. And if that's the case it'll have no effect at all. In some cases (EQ and Tren spring to mind) they ARE used on animals (horses and cattle).

In some vet grade products Oz member got excited because the amounts were HUGE like 200ml bottles to 1L bags! But the doses per ml were loads lower hence lower prices. The sterility requirements are less too (I've worked in the meat industry 1982-1990). IF some roids do work for the dog the sterility will be better for her.

100% check with the vet as to whether or not the peptides will work. It also occurred to me that SOME peptides, steroids and sarms (might also be worth a look) will have been tested on mice and rabbits so you might be in with a chance.
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Thank you @Mobster after your first message last night I couldn't help myself as usual and the brain started ticking in overtime...I looked into it and found that yes bcp157 in particular was well tolerated by mice rats & even dogs which then lead me to redit forums where numerous poeple used it on multiple dogs and claimed it worked and so far 2 days into treatment he is starting to show some very good signs,I will definitely work closely with Margaret the vet she has been in the game for over 40 years and i have given her the names of peptides im using so she can look into it today.
Your a good man with a good heart Steve, thank you for all the information I really appreciate it.
 
MarshMonsta said:
South African Mastiff Zeus has been a very naughty boy trying to eat next doors bag of shit security dog that can't be controlled unless it's in a cage which is a sad way to treat a Belgium Malinois x pitbull or any dog by that matter,the owner is not really helpful at all,anyways the problem is Zeus likes to stand on his back legs and bite at the dog trying to jump the fence and has obviously put to much weight and strain on the ligaments in rear left leg.Now his recovery log has started and as of last night he is undergoing BPC-157 / TB500@250mcg combined slit into 12hr shoots,and 1iu hgh generic no slin,helping my dog is my main priority and I have upped his suppliments which are omega 3,6,9 oil / Hip & joint powder /probiotics combined with a good diet and some light physio in water when he starts to put pressure on it again,I have no doubt this dog will pull through to full health and possibly a mini cycle to be the most jacked mastiff the world has ever seen💪
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This is going to be the 1st dog recovery cycle we've had @MarshMonsta :D going to be interesting.
 
MarshMonsta said:
South African Mastiff Zeus has been a very naughty boy trying to eat next doors bag of shit security dog that can't be controlled unless it's in a cage which is a sad way to treat a Belgium Malinois x pitbull or any dog by that matter,the owner is not really helpful at all,anyways the problem is Zeus likes to stand on his back legs and bite at the dog trying to jump the fence and has obviously put to much weight and strain on the ligaments in rear left leg.Now his recovery log has started and as of last night he is undergoing BPC-157 / TB500@250mcg combined slit into 12hr shoots,and 1iu hgh generic no slin,helping my dog is my main priority and I have upped his suppliments which are omega 3,6,9 oil / Hip & joint powder /probiotics combined with a good diet and some light physio in water when he starts to put pressure on it again,I have no doubt this dog will pull through to full health and possibly a mini cycle to be the most jacked mastiff the world has ever seen💪
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you feeding that big boy good meat bro love that
gonna follow this up
 
LevButlerov said:
This is going to be the 1st dog recovery cycle we've had @MarshMonsta :D going to be interesting.
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You got that right my brother I'm checking out lots of information about EQ being used on dogs,and it looks like it's been done for many years now,i will find out the proper dose for dogs after work today,it's 0.5ml per pound Bodyweight for horses so should be alot less for a dog,but I'll get a proper confirmation on this straight out of the horses mouth😜
 
stevesmi said:
hopefully it helps. my last dog had really bad inflammation in the hips i wish i could have tried this for her
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Same brother my last dog was 16.5yrs old and had hip problems towards the end back then all I knew was fish oil & hip & joint supps....lol I'll always remember his smile he constantly had right up till the end when he died in my arms.
 
Ulter said:
damn it sounds like you have a really tough dog next door.

I would move lol
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Actually he has two security dogs but they are like the owner all bark and no bite,as for the moving part that isn't an option my brother you see I'm the top dog around my area lol when I start biting his dogs start running trust me😉
 
Quadsweep said:
good job making sure your dog can live a pain free life
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Thanks bro he is still super happy and eating like champ,he also lifted my other dog 3 foot through the air today lol full weight on his back legs for a bit looked like a good strong stance,so I know he has the ability to still controll the muscle contractions in leg as normal,this is a good sign after 3-4 days treatment.
 
Wootoom said:
dogs are the best.

we never want to see them in pain they're like our children
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Exactly my bro,we must do what it takes to help them they are part of our family,last thing I want is my dog cut open and butchered,which will cost me thousands,put him in a very long and painful recovery getting pumped with painkillers and not knowing if the problem is truly fixed lol peptides are the way forward💪
 
MarshMonsta said:
South African Mastiff Zeus has been a very naughty boy trying to eat next doors bag of shit security dog that can't be controlled unless it's in a cage which is a sad way to treat a Belgium Malinois x pitbull or any dog by that matter,the owner is not really helpful at all,anyways the problem is Zeus likes to stand on his back legs and bite at the dog trying to jump the fence and has obviously put to much weight and strain on the ligaments in rear left leg.Now his recovery log has started and as of last night he is undergoing BPC-157 / TB500@250mcg combined slit into 12hr shoots,and 1iu hgh generic no slin,helping my dog is my main priority and I have upped his suppliments which are omega 3,6,9 oil / Hip & joint powder /probiotics combined with a good diet and some light physio in water when he starts to put pressure on it again,I have no doubt this dog will pull through to full health and possibly a mini cycle to be the most jacked mastiff the world has ever seen💪
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@MarshMonsta good looking dog. I have a mastiff also but mines the Italian mastiff. Love that breed
 
MarshMonsta said:
Yes bro,i ring the butcher and tell them not to cut the tails into pieces for me,they come around 15-20 inches long and with a bit of girth about them too.
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what they look like ? lol can you share a kangaroo tail pic bro got me interested lol
 
Ok we are 4 days into peptide treatment on Zeus and it's looking pretty promising to say the least,i have taken him to the old vet i know and got her to check him and its definitely a hip issue but hard to tell without an x-ray exactly what the damage is,I'm hoping it is just ligament/tendon strain which I'm leaning more towards as its already heaps better but know where near healed yet,I spoke with her about when and how they used EQ on horses and even dogs back in the day but isn't a practice used anymore due to better options in animal steroids now available,i did however find out what dosages they ran on dogs and its stuff all around 100mg every 2-3weeks for a dog his size lol which suits me as I have heaps on hand,the main thing is to keep up the peptides,feed high quality food and heaps of fish oil,and hip&joint supps combined with light excercise.
Went and got a box of chicken frames as well to up calcium & phosphorus in his body plus they luv crunching them down for breakfast.
 

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I didn't get any video of the first couple days he was really bad before the peptides,I had him looked up in the garage so he would stop hoping round but the first clip is 2 days of treatment and second at 4 days,good progress but a ways to go,I would highly doubt it's a bone problem considering his blood line from the U.K and the hip & joint scores but hey injuries happen,so from 3 legs to hobbling around on 4 is where we at 5 days in now and we continue till it's sorted then possibly run light EQ power cycle💪
 

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MarshMonsta said:
I didn't get any video of the first couple days he was really bad before the peptides,I had him looked up in the garage so he would stop hoping round but the first clip is 2 days of treatment and second at 4 days,good progress but a ways to go,I would highly doubt it's a bone problem considering his blood line from the U.K and the hip & joint scores but hey injuries happen,so from 3 legs to hobbling around on 4 is where we at 5 days in now and we continue till it's sorted then possibly run light EQ power cycle💪
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@MarshMonsta Good progress so far.....they look better......
 
Good luck
 
MarshMonsta said:
I didn't get any video of the first couple days he was really bad before the peptides,I had him looked up in the garage so he would stop hoping round but the first clip is 2 days of treatment and second at 4 days,good progress but a ways to go,I would highly doubt it's a bone problem considering his blood line from the U.K and the hip & joint scores but hey injuries happen,so from 3 legs to hobbling around on 4 is where we at 5 days in now and we continue till it's sorted then possibly run light EQ power cycle💪
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These are true bad boys :P lol they so fun to look at @MarshMonsta
Log is approved.
 
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Ok we are 4 days into peptide treatment on Zeus and it's looking pretty promising to say the least,i have taken him to the old vet i know and got her to check him and its definitely a hip issue but hard to tell without an x-ray exactly what the damage is,I'm hoping it is just ligament/tendon strain which I'm leaning more towards as its already heaps better but know where near healed yet,I spoke with her about when and how they used EQ on horses and even dogs back in the day but isn't a practice used anymore due to better options in animal steroids now available,i did however find out what dosages they ran on dogs and its stuff all around 100mg every 2-3weeks for a dog his size lol which suits me as I have heaps on hand,the main thing is to keep up the peptides,feed high quality food and heaps of fish oil,and hip&joint supps combined with light excercise.
Went and got a box of chicken frames as well to up calcium & phosphorus in his body plus they luv crunching them down for breakfast.
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Whats the mean in the bag?
 
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
 

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Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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Never seen a kangaroo tail in my life LOL :P!! @MarshMonsta
 
MarshMonsta said:
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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Eats better than some here lol
 
stevesmi said:
there is a trend in america too of feeding our dogs/cats a raw food natural diet.

our cat/dog food is all full of crap, just like our human food
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I agree with you completely they are better off eating clean proteins & eggs my bro there is way too much wheat and other fillers in dry dog food which I don't think has the protein value it claims to have.
 
A good to see that Zeus is doing better. It's a good start.
 
bro my pit grabs the needles out of the closet when he wants me to pin his tren. you should train yours to do same
 
I9 days into treatment of Zeus now and he seems to be tolerating the same dose fine and is showing improvements on the daily,I have slowly been letting him out more over past two days to run in yard but we still have have a ways to go before full recovery.Also Zeus's first touchdown arrived yesterday,which calls for a
huge shout out to the team @Liquid Gold Labs for there full sponsorship and support in providing the peptides needed to ensure a successful recovery💪
 

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MarshMonsta said:
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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That looks amazing 💪
 
MarshMonsta said:
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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@MarshMonsta glad to hear he is recovering quickly.
 
Liquid Gold Labs said:
Bros I was literally looking for your comment saying this and I found it haha 😂💪

Lol god help any ranch trespassers - they will be torn to pieces
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bro cause my record i can't own guns. so i raise my pit for protection and he loaded on tren. he bit neighbor on leg other day he walk 1 foot on property, he learn lessons hard wayz lol
 
MarshMonsta said:
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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@MarshMonsta that food is looking great!
 
MarshMonsta said:
South African Mastiff Zeus has been a very naughty boy trying to eat next doors bag of shit security dog that can't be controlled unless it's in a cage which is a sad way to treat a Belgium Malinois x pitbull or any dog by that matter,the owner is not really helpful at all,anyways the problem is Zeus likes to stand on his back legs and bite at the dog trying to jump the fence and has obviously put to much weight and strain on the ligaments in rear left leg.Now his recovery log has started and as of last night he is undergoing BPC-157 / TB500@250mcg combined slit into 12hr shoots,and 1iu hgh generic no slin,helping my dog is my main priority and I have upped his suppliments which are omega 3,6,9 oil / Hip & joint powder /probiotics combined with a good diet and some light physio in water when he starts to put pressure on it again,I have no doubt this dog will pull through to full health and possibly a mini cycle to be the most jacked mastiff the world has ever seen💪
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Will be following this one along, hope Zeus makes a full recovery. Lgl is the way to go!!
 
MarshMonsta said:
Little meat haul to go along with chicken frames i got the other day to keep my beasts running at optimal level.
2x 30inch roo tails
5kg beef mince
5kg lamb hearts
Zeus is improving a little bit every day and is his usual happy self,eating like a champ and is also putting on some mass in his front end which I'd put down to a week nearly of minimal activity and the higher amount of protein im giving atm.
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Looks good
 
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
 

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MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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I can see he has a limp on his leg for sure. Right leg right? @MarshMonsta
 
LevButlerov said:
I can see he has a limp on his leg for sure. Right leg right? @MarshMonsta
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It's his left leg my bro,the progress is slow but steady atm now he is running round on all fours again,sometimes with bad injuries I have noticed it takes months and months of peptide treatment to heal the problem especially if it's a body part that gets used alot in everyday life,same for that bicep problem i had for around 6 months at the end of day the level of commitment I have towards his recovery will ensure a success
 
MarshMonsta said:
It's his left leg my bro,the progress is slow but steady atm now he is running round on all fours again,sometimes with bad injuries I have noticed it takes months and months of peptide treatment to heal the problem especially if it's a body part that gets used alot in everyday life,same for that bicep problem i had for around 6 months at the end of day the level of commitment I have towards his recovery will ensure a success
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It takes a long time for treatment and to heal, I hope the big boy recovers, but you have to let him walk though to tighten the leg a bit. @MarshMonsta
 
LevButlerov said:
It takes a long time for treatment and to heal, I hope the big boy recovers, but you have to let him walk though to tighten the leg a bit. @MarshMonsta
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I agree with you completely my bro he is out in yard again now fulltime,and I'll probably try taking him for river walk tomorrow
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta Good to hear that Zeus still has his energy. Swimming in the ocean. Sounds really fun. Just be careful of the sharks.
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta bro yo dog look good. but my pit could take it down easy. gonna have to pin him with some tren lol
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta Bros. That's good. That Zeus seems like he's getting a little better.

Hopefully, he can make full recovery.
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta This is cool, man. Maybe more people will log their pets like this, I'm waiting on some cat or iguana logs lol
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta Glad to see that Zeus is getting a little better.

Hopefully other people can read this and their dogs will get improved
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta zeus is in good hands. i love to see you keep improving
 
MarshMonsta said:
Not alot of action on Zeus's leg over past few days,its definitely getting better but now that he is back out side it will most likely be a slow process,you can't lock dogs like that up for too long they go crazy and really need to be outside.
Still pumping him full of peptides,food & supps and will continue to do so as well as look at getting him down to the beach next weekend to start swimming in ocean to strengthen leg which will become a weeky thing.
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@MarshMonsta hope he gets healed up quickly man.
 
MarshMonsta said:
I agree with you completely my bro he is out in yard again now fulltime,and I'll probably try taking him for river walk tomorrow
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walking and moving is the key, just dont let him run lol @MarshMonsta
 
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