A few variables can i influence results. I personally normally test 2 days after a pin and have only ever done that so i cant compare. There was an interesting conversation a little while back about to blokes running the same gear from the same vendor and same batch with also the same total weekly dose. One pinning every day and the other pinning twice a week and even after several week to reach saturation had different results from memory. I cant remember the exact details, @TeeGee @Ratatata was it you two fellas that conducted this experiment?
Hey bro. There is no such thing as accurate result imo. Result varies number of pin u do weekly, 2 times a week to daily. How long after ur last pin u did blood. the more frequent pin u do there is less spike in ur blood serum. Also how long after pin u do blood everythings matter. Also how good of responder to testosterone u r matters aswell. Right now i am doing 2 weekly shot and collected data taking blood 48 hour, 60 hour and in few week 72 hour. Also i have done daily pin and took blood after 24 hour and results where all different. Also mind u oil is all hplc tested through janoshik.
@SPOONMAN366 this is the most experienced based comparisons i think you will be able to find. Thanks heaps @Ratatata for chiming in i knew you were the man for the question. At the end of the day ratatata is on the money when saying there is no exact accurate results from blood work. One could only possibly set the same parameters when testing each time to "hopefully" try to limit variables. Such as stick with the same pinning schedule for entire cycle and test at the same duration each time after particular shot. How much control this gives would still be hard to judge accurately.
@SPOONMAN366 There’s no single perfect time, but mid-point between injections is usually best for consistent readings. That’s when levels have peaked and started to decline, so it gives a more stable snapshot. If you take bloods right after pinning, levels can be artificially high depending on the ester. Taking them the day before might show the lowest point, especially with shorter esters. For long esters like test cyp or enanthate, bloodwork 3 to 4 days after a shot is common. People on TRT often do labs halfway between doses for the most accurate baseline. Yes, factors like stress, poor sleep, and overtraining can skew results too. So it’s not just timing, it’s also about being rested and fasted for cleaner results.
@SPOONMAN366 bro i scared to look at bloods lol. you should do it and post it. let see
You want to see my bloods?
like a daily time? no. but most bloodwork places don't even stay open but like 1 or 2pm. people get their bloods done fasted in the morning first thing before work
no need to over think it. at the end of the day get the bloods done depending on what you are trying to figure out. like if you want to know estrogen levels get it done a few weeks into cycle and adjust
bros you should read some bloods on here. see when guys are doing it. that will help you
bloodwork changes constantly. especially things like estrogen. so its important to track your dosing and then get bloods and then change things up later
bro yeah let see it post it
Il put it up Tuesday
bro good man !
@SPOONMAN366 sharing would be amazing.........
Going in thismorning will post on tuesday
Are you using an AI?
Am not,this test yesterday was to assess my e2 as 350 is the highest I've pushed test in quiete some time
Yeah no worries, 200pmol is really good for 350mg test.
Daily cardio helps with e2?
I like to think it does for me personally
The less body fat youre holding the less you will aromatise
Don’t know what’s doing with me, i’m probably holding the most body fat i’ll generally have but i can still see abs so still fairly lean. Are you saying because my body is generally use to having the extra flab it might be going over board with the e2?
How do you feel with 200+ e2. Any sides? It might not be a bad thing mate. Everyone is different, your body might need the extra e2. You might feel like shit with it any lower. Personally I feel great at 163
I feel good at 200+
not sure how you feel broly but @SPOONMAN366 its dangerous to have e2 that high, there are a lot of physical issues like organ damage that dont relate to feeling
Hey mate, cant say i notice anything adverse. I still wanna get it down but, cause i want the trt as a long term thing, need to figure the correct baseline out and go from there. I will drop my dose to 0.1 over 3 a week and re test in a couple months. I’d be happy with 160 like you i think.
Each to their own but I will keep this in mind,and appreciate the input,I have ais on stand by + it will only be until 6 weeks and I introduce .asteron and start cutting cycle so im sure they will drop when I do bloods in few weeks time
Yeah mate.. i got mates now who sit on a ml a week and drink daily and on the bag hahah. Will catch up to them one day. We're in this for the long haul brother.. may aswell get it dialed in for the safest results! You have options mate.. supplements like zinc, vitamin d, resveratrol. Like I stated earlier a drop in body fat can help.. also sleep and dieting.. but the easiest and bullproof unfortunately will be dropping dosage or more frequent injections
your estrogen is elevated. but its not crazy bad. just balance it out. i don't think anything is that abnormal considering you are on 3.5X the hormones you produce naturally @SPOONMAN366
bro how about some beef/steak pics/ that would make my day if you carnivore. @SPOONMAN366 i want to see you kill it
Bacon eggs and steaks is life my guy haha
People post what they want. You can't suggest to only get one type of reply. Evo, more than any of our forums, is big on free speech. Even what you might think of as negative can be helpful - when you're making a mistake for example
okay @SPOONMAN366 that is good you posted it. now you can have a reference point for the future. don't be scared to post up things
i don't think carnivore diet is effecting your numbers. i think it has more to do with the PED's. but what do you think? @SPOONMAN366
you are running 4x the amount of hormones your body naturally produces as you know @SPOONMAN366 So of course you're gonna have blood work that is off. I don't think that is abnormal.
bros why not get opinions? we heard to help not criticize. sometimes bloodwork is off and things can be corrected @SPOONMAN366
i think you mean masteron? masteron is not an ai
I’ve seen some labs quote e2 at <150pmol/L
bro it better be from texas
bros everyone gonna have different diet, that is how it should be. but it fun to throw ideas around you never know change can be good. like i never believed in fasting but then started doing it and now i like it same thing
@SPOONMAN366 daily cardio is awesome man. That’s some dedication.
Thanks bro I did 2 years of long distance before I started lifting weights so I have definitely paid my dues,im learning to find my love for the treadmill again though haha
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